I have MDD and I have been taking medication now for around 5 years. This has really explained to me why I am still mentally depressed all the time, but I don’t FEEL depressed as much or at all. ….i haven’t done any psychological work at all. I’ve learned helplessness several years ago, if not a decade or more but I didn’t know the word for it until now. Also, that I constantly live in a melancholic mindset. I get boosts of happiness and I can appreciate beauty in life, but there is no denying the dark abyss or how I view life in general. There is a song with a lyric that says “in the space between where hell and heaven look the same.” I feel that all the time. Anyways, full disclosure, I take Prozac and Wellbutrin. For better or for worse. There are side effects that I don’t enjoy, but it’s better than the emotional pit of depression I dealt with prior. Thanks for reading.
@@sanjayxtiwari Do you even follow me or read any of my posts. Don't ask me silly nonsensical questions. Meditation is pure evil and only breeds psychosis. Good luck and bye!
I had depression for many years. When I started learning how to self, reflect and accept consequences in which I earned for my actions, and I’m Pickin to learn how to reason with peoples actions, and why they do what they do. My depression melted right away.
By far the best lecture on depression that I have ever heard. The fixating on some horrid thing you did twelve years ago. The structural engineer imagining the corridor had shrunk. The psychomotor retardation and the danger at the comeback. Someone I know was deeply destabilized by MAOIs.
What about SSRI's causing depression by downregulating serotonin and other receptors and changing the gene expression? I wasn't born this way. I went from making A/B in high school to not caring and failing practically by senior year. Apathy from Prozac.
I was in depression for many days (years), the burning sensation in my middle of head is my everyday experience, Till now a small event of bad experience gives me hard hit of sorrow, but what I can say by my experience that the Depression could be overcome by connection with information and self-analysis. An Spiritualist said that you can't find peace of mind because chaos (conflict ) is the mind, you must rest beside the mind,, another thing is that you must realize that you want to be filled with something even that is sadness , because when you become empty mind that gives you a lack of presence in the world , there for you want to grebe subjects and hold them to get the sense of presence or an experience of your universe ,, in every micro second you are creating solution for your problem and the solution is becoming a new problem - that's the depression is and that is the mental retardation is.God bless you who are in depression and reading the comment 😀😃😄😅😂
I'm your depression brother 😂, I'm 60 now. He said it's a biochemical disorder !!!BIOCHEMICAL is the key word. I was in a vegetable state !, because of eating vegetables. Now I only eat 20%fatty meat, heart, liver, eggs(3 a day), fish, drink water, that's all. 0 carbohydrate (sugar), all plants+fruit contain carbs and natural poison. I'm on CARNIVORE diet now. My paranoia skizofreni has left me, I'm normal today 🤗🥳😎💪🏼. Another cure is keto cure, it's good too. on Keto you can eat some vegetables, but only the good one's!. He's wrong on winter depression, it's lack of D vitamines. Sure bad experiences, as being bullied, rape, bad family, etc. also give depression , but you become stronger if you eat human primary food. Vegetables+fruit is secondary food source for humans. Vegetables & fruit are converted to carbs=sugar in the stomach. you can live of potatoes etc. but potatoes gives weaker body and weaker mental conditions. Mostly because lack of vitamines ! & Sugar is VERY bad for the body. I like this guy a lot, learn from him, but he's wrong on somethings, as mentioned above. Comments on my comment are very welcome both positive & negative ❤.
Tough to listen to... my mother died when I was 8, but, after listening here, my experience of my own 'depression' makes more sense What you said about feeling shame around being depressed fits, but also I would say that stress for an individual experiencing bereavement or abuse is intensified by the unhelpful social reaction to it. Where is that essential support you talk of, when those around you flee for fear of not knowing how to deal with you... Therefore, depression is, to some degree a social disease???
I'm not the guy in the video and I don't romanticize concepts of support. But. Yes, the concepts of depression and disease are just more layers of the same social hallucinations, no different than the notions of trauma, healing, or love. There’s no separation between perception and hallucination-everything is simply a set of automatic, mechanical responses. Yet, we project onto them self-confirming layers of meaning, constantly romanticizing what is, at its core, completely devoid of purpose or value. The hibernating bear doesn’t wake up cursing his hibernation as laziness or self-pity; these terms are just more noise created by human thought, which functions as nothing more than a byproduct of the brain. Thoughts are noise, as meaningless as farts are to the body. They offer no guidance, no significance, and certainly no truth. Feelings, too, are just illusions, with no inherent wisdom. All these so-called 'pointers' are lies pointing only to other lies, and the best they can do is reveal how utterly hollow these concepts are. We do the same when we assign words like “loving” or “caring” to a dog experiencing a phantom pregnancy. But the mechanics behind what we call 'love' or 'compassion' are simply programmed reactions, completely automatic and entirely meaningless. The entire construct falls apart once you see through the social hallucination. Check this video out: Mother Love - Primate Programming: The 1959 Experiments That Exposed Our Automated Nature. ruclips.net/video/g7EgqzhkRKc/видео.html
thankyou for your insight... i had wondered about this, diagnosed early depression as a child - now coming up 34 and still trying to figure how to live with it :-( i didnt realise its the cause of my ups & downs and - the 24 hrs & early waking +constant stress. medications dont do much. i have to hack my biology... 🙂
everything else here is a match, but i am a night owl and i sleep as a way to stop existing for a while so i oftn force myself to sleep even if the quality is shit.
Depression is not just psychological and not only neurological but is it defect in hardware of biology as well as defect in brain chemcal,neurotransmitters it is also a heredity and genetics. A poor diet and lack of nutrients is also ond of the factor of depression. Just because we still live in medieval 2.0 era that dosen't mean it is just psychological. There is no seprate consciousness its all physical and mechanical. It dosen't matter if you like this fact or not. It is almost same like if we have defects in hardware of computer some software will get corrupt and go haywire and not work properly.
@@thenacregod iam trying not to. I will try. But since it is just noise and nihilism i can do whatever I want like Spam 100 times. 🤣 no iam kidding Beacuse I never spammed or spammed same comments multiple time. All I just did is commenting on and asking questions in your few posts. Is that what you call spamming? No it isnt.
@@ThomasMayer123-f8f It seems there's some truth to that. I've seen recent rebuttals of that idea, but it does seem obvious that we live in a culture that rewards what seems like unrealistic optimism. Our economic system is based on an unsustainable model of endless growth, our political system is so polarized that people care more about their beliefs than they do about other people, and our educational system is producing huge numbers of people who know very little about history and have difficulty thinking clearly about science, ethics and religion. Maybe we'll just carry on and find ways to solve our problems as we encounter them. Or maybe a catastrophe or a series of them will force us to make some fundamental changes in our social systems. To me, it seems that the people who are optimistic about the future are not realistic. However, unrealistic optimism might actually be a useful tool for individual and social survival. Please note that I'm using words such as "seems," "might" and "maybe." I always try to keep in mind the observation made by the wise philosopher Yogi Berra about making predictions.
Why is it a "harsh reality" to lack choice or control? The only harshness that I can see arising would be from expecting it to be otherwise. It would be nice, in a fairy tale way, to be the captains of our fate, and losing the illusion that we are in charge seems to be a step down, but that's only a seeming, because we never were in the position we may think we have lost. On the plus side, accepting a complete lack of control lifts a heavy (though illusory) weight of responsibility off our shoulders, and this is not harsh.
I'll give you a specific example. Your girlfriend is pregnant and you are unemployed and broke at age 19. Understanding that raising a child costs money, you suggest that she get an abortion with the understanding that it is her choice to make. You do not have the choice to get an abortion because you are not pregnant. However, she chooses to give birth and goes on welfare. The state makes the incredulous and meticulously crafted judgement that despite being unemployed, you have the ability to pay. When you don't pay because your government chose to recover money for the girlfriend who chose to have a baby on welfare, you go to jail. Not a fairy tale. And if we're being completely reductive (delusional), such that no one ever has a choice in any deterministic event, then yes, your pretty little argument that anyone who does anything is allowed to do so is correct. However this does not work in a world where OTHER PEOPLE are allowed to influence YOUR LIFE with the choices they make in theirs. The responsibility and authenticity carried by our individual actions is not a hallucination by virtue of being separable from society. Nor is it sufficient to profess an archetype of a false fairytale as an ideal lifestyle of impotent self regurgitation.
@@howwitty The 'not a fairy tale' situation you describe is harsh. As is depression (as a former sufferer). But I think you are missing the point of @bgalbreath's comment.
@@sbwetherbe I'm not. I acknowledged the concept of harshness in the op terms. My point was not that lacking choice would not be fantastic; I basically concede that point, I'm not a sadist.
if you're not in control, you're a victim. even if "free will" doesn't exist, you might still be determined to not enjoy the feeling of being a victim. you might still be determined to attempting to change your situation just to be able to survive, even if the concept of "free will" did not influence your feelings of being a victim in any way. (I hope the grammar is correct, English is not my native language)
Its only been confirmed ten fold over that we only get deterministic order after atoms phase changes take place. Hard to accept nothingness Is absolute logic fully informed non locality on smallest scales that what happens here effects there. That once emerging order of many different tiny package of energy form mrna/ dna in full of knowledge about all it can ever be yet still unaware although 90% in out needs cellular networking logistically data gathered from environment thru body back to dna to then mutate or decay how it see fit . That we break away giving rise consciousness by a stochastic dualistic brain hemisphere prenticious clocklike view paradolia of mind longs for order but is deaf dumb and blind ignoring the sea of decay or how it triangulates with thermodynamical, fluidlike dynamics and its electrodynamical measure encoded defibrillator of life. Xyz manmade time hierarchy knowledge of good evil equations We've known it 500 years its only strengthened.
Of course not. They just wait for nameless critics to imply there is some sort of special knowledge which the nameless critics possess, which would solve the problems the scientists have so naively tried to address by applying education, research and experimentation. Because helpful people with good intentions and proven solutions find it necessary or useful to insult those who try to apply science to solving problems, without demonstrating a better approach, backed by evidence.
@@imperfekt7905 Science is not ethical today. Science is sponsored, therefore directed on a particular path. There is a lot of knowledge that scientists do not consider, and do what Einstein did as well: they introduce their own "cosmological constant" to prove their rights.
He's one of the most respected neuroscientists in the world. It's easy to complain that scientists are sometimes wrong. It's hard to do the work that enables them to be right much of the time. Depression is a problem that is often badly misunderstood by people who haven't experienced it. At least scientists are trying to help. If they can't improve someone's life, at least they are trying. Sometimes they succeed, and every time that happens, it can save someone's life.
But if course social media commentators are always right... You judge science by it's look? Thank you for being a superior form of intelligence and still caring to enlighten us with your knowledge and understanding. Clearly you represent the future of Humanity everyone was waiting for...
The last part. I have no words, this man is amazing 👏👏👏❤
I have MDD and I have been taking medication now for around 5 years. This has really explained to me why I am still mentally depressed all the time, but I don’t FEEL depressed as much or at all.
….i haven’t done any psychological work at all.
I’ve learned helplessness several years ago, if not a decade or more but I didn’t know the word for it until now.
Also, that I constantly live in a melancholic mindset. I get boosts of happiness and I can appreciate beauty in life, but there is no denying the dark abyss or how I view life in general.
There is a song with a lyric that says “in the space between where hell and heaven look the same.”
I feel that all the time.
Anyways, full disclosure, I take Prozac and Wellbutrin. For better or for worse. There are side effects that I don’t enjoy, but it’s better than the emotional pit of depression I dealt with prior.
Thanks for reading.
Try to look into Vipassana Meditation, it might help.
@@sanjayxtiwari Dont spread that garbage here!
Thanks for sharing and supporting my content!
@@thenacregod why do you think it is garbage?
@@sanjayxtiwari Do you even follow me or read any of my posts. Don't ask me silly nonsensical questions. Meditation is pure evil and only breeds psychosis. Good luck and bye!
I had depression for many years. When I started learning how to self, reflect and accept consequences in which I earned for my actions, and I’m Pickin to learn how to reason with peoples actions, and why they do what they do. My depression melted right away.
That’s amazingly clear (useful info) and gives me hope !!
By far the best lecture on depression that I have ever heard. The fixating on some horrid thing you did twelve years ago. The structural engineer imagining the corridor had shrunk. The psychomotor retardation and the danger at the comeback.
Someone I know was deeply destabilized by MAOIs.
Never get stuck!!!
Fantastic lecture thank you so much for sharing, what a gift!!
What about SSRI's causing depression by downregulating serotonin and other receptors and changing the gene expression? I wasn't born this way. I went from making A/B in high school to not caring and failing practically by senior year. Apathy from Prozac.
Excellent lecture.
Thank you.
You are welcome!
I was in depression for many days (years), the burning sensation in my middle of head is my everyday experience, Till now a small event of bad experience gives me hard hit of sorrow, but what I can say by my experience that the Depression could be overcome by connection with information and self-analysis. An Spiritualist said that you can't find peace of mind because chaos (conflict ) is the mind, you must rest beside the mind,, another thing is that you must realize that you want to be filled with something even that is sadness , because when you become empty mind that gives you a lack of presence in the world , there for you want to grebe subjects and hold them to get the sense of presence or an experience of your universe ,, in every micro second you are creating solution for your problem and the solution is becoming a new problem - that's the depression is and that is the mental retardation is.God bless you who are in depression and reading the comment 😀😃😄😅😂
I'm your depression brother 😂, I'm 60 now. He said it's a biochemical disorder !!!BIOCHEMICAL is the key word. I was in a vegetable state !, because of eating vegetables.
Now I only eat 20%fatty meat, heart, liver, eggs(3 a day), fish, drink water, that's all. 0 carbohydrate (sugar), all plants+fruit contain carbs and natural poison. I'm on CARNIVORE diet now.
My paranoia skizofreni has left me, I'm normal today 🤗🥳😎💪🏼.
Another cure is keto cure, it's good too. on Keto you can eat some vegetables, but only the good one's!.
He's wrong on winter depression, it's lack of D vitamines.
Sure bad experiences, as being bullied, rape, bad family, etc. also give depression , but you become stronger if you eat human primary food.
Vegetables+fruit is secondary food source for humans. Vegetables & fruit are converted to carbs=sugar in the stomach. you can live of potatoes etc. but potatoes gives weaker body and weaker mental conditions. Mostly because lack of vitamines ! & Sugar is VERY bad for the body.
I like this guy a lot, learn from him, but he's wrong on somethings, as mentioned above.
Comments on my comment are very welcome both positive & negative ❤.
Tough to listen to... my mother died when I was 8, but, after listening here, my experience of my own 'depression' makes more sense
What you said about feeling shame around being depressed fits, but also I would say that stress for an individual experiencing bereavement or abuse is intensified by the unhelpful social reaction to it. Where is that essential support you talk of, when those around you flee for fear of not knowing how to deal with you... Therefore, depression is, to some degree a social disease???
I'm not the guy in the video and I don't romanticize concepts of support. But. Yes, the concepts of depression and disease are just more layers of the same social hallucinations, no different than the notions of trauma, healing, or love. There’s no separation between perception and hallucination-everything is simply a set of automatic, mechanical responses. Yet, we project onto them self-confirming layers of meaning, constantly romanticizing what is, at its core, completely devoid of purpose or value.
The hibernating bear doesn’t wake up cursing his hibernation as laziness or self-pity; these terms are just more noise created by human thought, which functions as nothing more than a byproduct of the brain. Thoughts are noise, as meaningless as farts are to the body. They offer no guidance, no significance, and certainly no truth. Feelings, too, are just illusions, with no inherent wisdom. All these so-called 'pointers' are lies pointing only to other lies, and the best they can do is reveal how utterly hollow these concepts are.
We do the same when we assign words like “loving” or “caring” to a dog experiencing a phantom pregnancy. But the mechanics behind what we call 'love' or 'compassion' are simply programmed reactions, completely automatic and entirely meaningless. The entire construct falls apart once you see through the social hallucination. Check this video out: Mother Love - Primate Programming: The 1959 Experiments That Exposed Our Automated Nature. ruclips.net/video/g7EgqzhkRKc/видео.html
I love you ❤❤❤
thankyou for your insight... i had wondered about this, diagnosed early depression as a child - now coming up 34 and still trying to figure how to live with it :-( i didnt realise its the cause of my ups & downs and - the 24 hrs & early waking +constant stress. medications dont do much. i have to hack my biology... 🙂
I had a minor version of depression (Dysthymia)-it was a horrible way to live! It is not to be minimized!
After I went through menopause my depression went away.
Now I don't give a F.
I'm much happier.
Yeah BUT imagine NOT giving a F. with Hormones dude
Nice to know you're human. 12:22- on the board vegetative is misspelled as 'vegatative'. Everything else is pretty awesome.
everything else here is a match, but i am a night owl and i sleep as a way to stop existing for a while so i oftn force myself to sleep even if the quality is shit.
What gene is he referring to in glucocorticoid signaling that is implicated in developing MDD at the end of the lecture?
Does anyone have the notes on the whiteboard?
Here ruclips.net/video/EGaFuVIDRVM/видео.htmlsi=EZK6MBnhjJZMnLxl
Depression is not just psychological and not only neurological but is it defect in hardware of biology as well as defect in brain chemcal,neurotransmitters it is also a heredity and genetics. A poor diet and lack of nutrients is also ond of the factor of depression. Just because we still live in medieval 2.0 era that dosen't mean it is just psychological. There is no seprate consciousness its all physical and mechanical. It dosen't matter if you like this fact or not. It is almost same like if we have defects in hardware of computer some software will get corrupt and go haywire and not work properly.
Maybe its seeing the life as it really is..
If human, you are not a computer, nor do you operate like one. Vague metaphors are not science.
stop spamming!
@@thenacregod iam trying not to. I will try. But since it is just noise and nihilism i can do whatever I want like Spam 100 times. 🤣 no iam kidding Beacuse I never spammed or spammed same comments multiple time. All I just did is commenting on and asking questions in your few posts. Is that what you call spamming? No it isnt.
@@ThomasMayer123-f8f It seems there's some truth to that. I've seen recent rebuttals of that idea, but it does seem obvious that we live in a culture that rewards what seems like unrealistic optimism. Our economic system is based on an unsustainable model of endless growth, our political system is so polarized that people care more about their beliefs than they do about other people, and our educational system is producing huge numbers of people who know very little about history and have difficulty thinking clearly about science, ethics and religion. Maybe we'll just carry on and find ways to solve our problems as we encounter them. Or maybe a catastrophe or a series of them will force us to make some fundamental changes in our social systems. To me, it seems that the people who are optimistic about the future are not realistic. However, unrealistic optimism might actually be a useful tool for individual and social survival. Please note that I'm using words such as "seems," "might" and "maybe." I always try to keep in mind the observation made by the wise philosopher Yogi Berra about making predictions.
@thenacre..., what is the date of this dr. Sapolsky's lecture, please?
2009 or something
Why is it a "harsh reality" to lack choice or control? The only harshness that I can see arising would be from expecting it to be otherwise. It would be nice, in a fairy tale way, to be the captains of our fate, and losing the illusion that we are in charge seems to be a step down, but that's only a seeming, because we never were in the position we may think we have lost. On the plus side, accepting a complete lack of control lifts a heavy (though illusory) weight of responsibility off our shoulders, and this is not harsh.
I'll give you a specific example. Your girlfriend is pregnant and you are unemployed and broke at age 19. Understanding that raising a child costs money, you suggest that she get an abortion with the understanding that it is her choice to make. You do not have the choice to get an abortion because you are not pregnant. However, she chooses to give birth and goes on welfare. The state makes the incredulous and meticulously crafted judgement that despite being unemployed, you have the ability to pay. When you don't pay because your government chose to recover money for the girlfriend who chose to have a baby on welfare, you go to jail. Not a fairy tale.
And if we're being completely reductive (delusional), such that no one ever has a choice in any deterministic event, then yes, your pretty little argument that anyone who does anything is allowed to do so is correct. However this does not work in a world where OTHER PEOPLE are allowed to influence YOUR LIFE with the choices they make in theirs.
The responsibility and authenticity carried by our individual actions is not a hallucination by virtue of being separable from society. Nor is it sufficient to profess an archetype of a false fairytale as an ideal lifestyle of impotent self regurgitation.
@@howwitty The 'not a fairy tale' situation you describe is harsh. As is depression (as a former sufferer). But I think you are missing the point of @bgalbreath's comment.
@@sbwetherbe I'm not. I acknowledged the concept of harshness in the op terms. My point was not that lacking choice would not be fantastic; I basically concede that point, I'm not a sadist.
if you're not in control, you're a victim. even if "free will" doesn't exist, you might still be determined to not enjoy the feeling of being a victim. you might still be determined to attempting to change your situation just to be able to survive, even if the concept of "free will" did not influence your feelings of being a victim in any way. (I hope the grammar is correct, English is not my native language)
Its only been confirmed ten fold over that we only get deterministic order after atoms phase changes take place.
Hard to accept nothingness Is absolute logic fully informed non locality on smallest scales that what happens here effects there.
That once emerging order of many different tiny package of energy form mrna/ dna in full of knowledge about all it can ever be yet still unaware although 90% in out needs cellular networking logistically data gathered from environment thru body back to dna to then mutate or decay how it see fit .
That we break away giving rise consciousness by a stochastic dualistic brain hemisphere prenticious clocklike view paradolia of mind longs for order but is deaf dumb and blind ignoring the sea of decay or how it triangulates with thermodynamical, fluidlike dynamics and its electrodynamical measure encoded defibrillator of life.
Xyz manmade time hierarchy knowledge of good evil equations
We've known it 500 years its only strengthened.
24:01
Substance Pee-Pee.
It is not biology driving the condition but the condition or unresoved trauma driving the biology. Look up Gabor Mate and his lectures and books.
Nah, check my books for free here: www.primordialperpetuity.com
It's both
Sapolsky does "weave"?
He's no spider
More vague, hand-waving correlation patterns being presented as though they were mechanical causation relationships.
Sapolsky would have made a Great Hasidic Jew dude
Dude what is The Solution to Depression dude
Nature doesn't care if you get depressed or not.
@@thenacregod Interesting dude ... I MEAN not in the sense that I would CARE dude but does Nature give a Hoot about Anything
Since he's an Ashkenazi Jew, that's probably an inside slight.
Dear sociopathic scientists, do you consider other kind of setting for depression? The true one? The realistic one?
Of course not. They just wait for nameless critics to imply there is some sort of special knowledge which the nameless critics possess, which would solve the problems the scientists have so naively tried to address by applying education, research and experimentation. Because helpful people with good intentions and proven solutions find it necessary or useful to insult those who try to apply science to solving problems, without demonstrating a better approach, backed by evidence.
@@imperfekt7905 Science is not ethical today. Science is sponsored, therefore directed on a particular path. There is a lot of knowledge that scientists do not consider, and do what Einstein did as well: they introduce their own "cosmological constant" to prove their rights.
@@imperfekt7905 Sure. This approach is great to create new pills to replace the older and cheaper pills. The pharma industry goes on
Science and scientists have been wrong in the past and in present. This professor looks like a quack!!
He's one of the most respected neuroscientists in the world. It's easy to complain that scientists are sometimes wrong. It's hard to do the work that enables them to be right much of the time. Depression is a problem that is often badly misunderstood by people who haven't experienced it. At least scientists are trying to help. If they can't improve someone's life, at least they are trying. Sometimes they succeed, and every time that happens, it can save someone's life.
@@imperfekt7905beautifully said!
Because Science is a process and open to correction it is never wrong.
No, the professor is not a quack. Do your research, or just go away.
But if course social media commentators are always right... You judge science by it's look? Thank you for being a superior form of intelligence and still caring to enlighten us with your knowledge and understanding. Clearly you represent the future of Humanity everyone was waiting for...
Machines are designed and created for the purpose of serving their creator.
Is this the trap he's talking about?
No, just machines making machines.