Biggest losses for sure are Pokestop, forest seal stone, double turbo energy, rotom/lumineon v, radiant greninja and hisuian heavy ball. They're all staple support cards for so many top decks, pretty much every single deck is going to look very different.
Double Colorless/Turbo has no reason to exist if there aren’t cards that have that energy cost. The biggest clue it isn’t coming back is the N’s Zoroark ex which is a retrain of the iconic Zoroark GX which as a two Darkness energy cost. Sucks for Terapagos but they still have Glass Trumpet at least.
@@samclark4353 because that iconic gx had an attack costing dce and it will be the poster child of the first set so if they r gonna reprint dce it should have some synergies with the best card. But it doesnot confirm anything and this energy is always there in some form, either it dce dte or twin so they might reprint it
@@sd7460 2017 is way gone man have you seen this meta we need the extra twenty with terapagos just to keep up. These things aren’t hitting numbers special energy needs the buff.
I don’t think Terapogos is in any trouble at all. The TeraZard deck seems like a good blueprint for how both it and Charizard can and will survive post rotation. As a Garde player though, I’m very worried. That one’s on life support as is. I believe rotation will kill it
How will rotation kill it lol. There’s plenty of ways to get energy in discard and most decks right now don’t use a draw engine outside supporters lol. It’ll be just fine
@@TheWillrocks51 look I could be wrong here and I’ll readily admit I’m not all that smart. I just see Kirlia and Rad Greninja as a vital part of the strategy, but what do I know.
@ radiant is a hit to be literally 90% of meta decks. It’ll be a big loss for everyone. Slow Garde might be dead but it’s been dead. Turbo Garde will just switch to arven candy engine
@@TheWillrocks51Garde is the insane zombie deck like Mew VMAX was. E rotation almost killed it, but it moved forward. F rotation will almost kill it, but ArvenCandy will keep it hitting.
I'm gonna call. I think crispin, glass trumpet and blissey ex are going to see a lot more popularity as a substitute for the loss of energy acceleration. Dundunsparce will be an ok 1 prize draw support when rotation hits. Jamming tower will have more use to shut down tool cards. Will be looking at other cards that will rise up to take the place of the cards we will lose with rotation.
I'm expecting to see a special double energy for tera Pokemon specifically. I think terapagos will rock for long time, as primary attacker or as support.
budew is going to hurt a LOT of decks, so I'm investing in future box. i think it works fairly well even without items early game. Also not losing anything except DTE, which is an easy thing to work around lol.
rotation will barely affect Pagos as it barely plays any F card as it's core. Pokestop rotating out will hurt a lot of decks though, mainly Bolt and Ceruledge, and to some extent Archaludon, i think people will play more research and squawk if they don't print a similar stadium, i don't think Cycling Road is good enough.
Ceruledge works wonderfully without pokestop. I'm usually swinging 300 by turn 3 at least. I use revaroom for draw and energy discard, ultra balls, square, carmine, et.al. I've played with better decks, but this one is pretty solid without pokestop
The only thing I can think of for a potential h block garde ex list is that it’s going to need pidgeot like the other stage 2 decks. So far I have a list that feels like it sorta works that uses cleffa, pidgeot, and fez ex but I haven’t been testing it out yet
I forsee terapagos being a 2 of in alot of decks to ustalise the noctowl engine. Makes zard consistant should make dragapult somewhat viable. Tera orb makes those 100x better
@@MonkeyDLouie999 there will always be a gusting supporter like boss’s orders, it’s a very crucial mechanic for this type of game. Before boss it was guzma and before guzma it was Lysandre. gusting supporters are to important to roll out. Just like the generic discard your hand draw 7, it was juniper, sycamore now its profs research.
@@strikerheadshot7215 those gusting cards you listed all have some sort of special condition that needs to be met meaning they aren’t guaranteed to work 100% of the time when it is convenient (disregarding prime catcher which have a 1 copy limit). Where as the gust supporter card is guaranteed and is crucial to setting up win conditions. You can loose a game if you flip tails on a poke catcher but 100% win the game if you jam down boss’s orders.
I hope they reprint double colorless. It’ll allow Terapagos to hit more key numbers. I’m interestingly looking forward to this? A lot of my favorite decks unfortunately die, but at least it’s the end of Snorlax.
i think zard noctowl is about to be the way zard players will move post rotation, very consistent so far
Biggest losses for sure are Pokestop, forest seal stone, double turbo energy, rotom/lumineon v, radiant greninja and hisuian heavy ball. They're all staple support cards for so many top decks, pretty much every single deck is going to look very different.
@@jamesfeng24 cancelling collogne?
true... it makes me sad tbh
We all know double colorless is coming back (please)
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Double Colorless/Turbo has no reason to exist if there aren’t cards that have that energy cost.
The biggest clue it isn’t coming back is the N’s Zoroark ex which is a retrain of the iconic Zoroark GX which as a two Darkness energy cost.
Sucks for Terapagos but they still have Glass Trumpet at least.
@@inazumatan7050 can I ask? Why does a dark Pokemon having a two dark energy cost define a double colourless energy not coming back?
@@samclark4353 because that iconic gx had an attack costing dce and it will be the poster child of the first set so if they r gonna reprint dce it should have some synergies with the best card. But it doesnot confirm anything and this energy is always there in some form, either it dce dte or twin so they might reprint it
@@sd7460 2017 is way gone man have you seen this meta we need the extra twenty with terapagos just to keep up.
These things aren’t hitting numbers special energy needs the buff.
Hydreigon is good. I predict it will get better with new cards and be played a lot more next year.
I agree, and the loss of dark patch isn't that big of a deal for it anyway, as the deck is sorta slow regardless.
I don’t think Terapogos is in any trouble at all. The TeraZard deck seems like a good blueprint for how both it and Charizard can and will survive post rotation.
As a Garde player though, I’m very worried. That one’s on life support as is. I believe rotation will kill it
How will rotation kill it lol. There’s plenty of ways to get energy in discard and most decks right now don’t use a draw engine outside supporters lol. It’ll be just fine
@@TheWillrocks51 look I could be wrong here and I’ll readily admit I’m not all that smart. I just see Kirlia and Rad Greninja as a vital part of the strategy, but what do I know.
@ radiant is a hit to be literally 90% of meta decks. It’ll be a big loss for everyone. Slow Garde might be dead but it’s been dead. Turbo Garde will just switch to arven candy engine
@@TheWillrocks51Garde is the insane zombie deck like Mew VMAX was. E rotation almost killed it, but it moved forward. F rotation will almost kill it, but ArvenCandy will keep it hitting.
Losing refinement kirlia will be a big loss for the deck.
I'm gonna call. I think crispin, glass trumpet and blissey ex are going to see a lot more popularity as a substitute for the loss of energy acceleration. Dundunsparce will be an ok 1 prize draw support when rotation hits. Jamming tower will have more use to shut down tool cards. Will be looking at other cards that will rise up to take the place of the cards we will lose with rotation.
I'm expecting to see a special double energy for tera Pokemon specifically. I think terapagos will rock for long time, as primary attacker or as support.
budew is going to hurt a LOT of decks, so I'm investing in future box. i think it works fairly well even without items early game. Also not losing anything except DTE, which is an easy thing to work around lol.
rotation will barely affect Pagos as it barely plays any F card as it's core. Pokestop rotating out will hurt a lot of decks though, mainly Bolt and Ceruledge, and to some extent Archaludon, i think people will play more research and squawk if they don't print a similar stadium, i don't think Cycling Road is good enough.
Ceruledge works wonderfully without pokestop. I'm usually swinging 300 by turn 3 at least.
I use revaroom for draw and energy discard, ultra balls, square, carmine, et.al.
I've played with better decks, but this one is pretty solid without pokestop
Only some ceruledge. A lot of other variations run cycling road and area zero tho
@@strikerheadshot7215 yeah i just include it cause i feel like it's the best version of Ceruledge
I think many decks will start running Mew ex to replace their engine. Some decks will also go with a more turbo style of play using Squawkibily ex.
The only thing I can think of for a potential h block garde ex list is that it’s going to need pidgeot like the other stage 2 decks. So far I have a list that feels like it sorta works that uses cleffa, pidgeot, and fez ex but I haven’t been testing it out yet
ancient box player has to pray for a new stadium which is similar to the tower of darkness, discard one ancient label card and draw 2 cards
my wall deck is gonna LOVE rotation
I forsee terapagos being a 2 of in alot of decks to ustalise the noctowl engine. Makes zard consistant should make dragapult somewhat viable. Tera orb makes those 100x better
What would you replace radiant zard with in Charizard ex, since its rotating out of the format? Great video by the way.
They didn’t reprint double turbo already then Turbo is cooked especially if they aren’t putting them in the trainer tool kit
I think Terapagos ex will start playing Trumpet and Blissey ex.
As a Roaring Moon EX player this rotation is gonna hurt to lose Dark Patch
@@frankiecandelaria2694 and shoes and trekking and greninja and pokestop just all of our consistency cards really
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I feel you man 😢
Canceling will be big loss it open the door for stall type n wall decks
@@becuzimgod but also some stall/wall decks are rotating out such as block lax and are losing strong cards like Miss Fortune sisters for example
@aS__Spencer snorlax loss a hot but there lists that don't need them plus we have other ways to mil
Hope boss's orders doesn't rotate out. If it does I want to see gust return.
boss had a sv reprint thankfully it's reg G
@@MonkeyDLouie999 there will always be a gusting supporter like boss’s orders, it’s a very crucial mechanic for this type of game. Before boss it was guzma and before guzma it was Lysandre. gusting supporters are to important to roll out. Just like the generic discard your hand draw 7, it was juniper, sycamore now its profs research.
Even if it did there's plenty gust bro lmao. Prime catcher, counter catcher, Pokemon catcher, the new card in SSP I can't remember the name of, etc.
@@strikerheadshot7215 those gusting cards you listed all have some sort of special condition that needs to be met meaning they aren’t guaranteed to work 100% of the time when it is convenient (disregarding prime catcher which have a 1 copy limit). Where as the gust supporter card is guaranteed and is crucial to setting up win conditions. You can loose a game if you flip tails on a poke catcher but 100% win the game if you jam down boss’s orders.
14:41 plays a 1-2 magneton line why?
nest ball finds magnemite, and its worse to ultra ball for magneton, and u cant heavy ball for magnemite
so it has better chance of Magneton not getting prized, you can get basic out of prize via heavy ball
@shroudedinshout yeah but what if your single Magnemite gets prized?
@@GoOKuSj33 read my comment again LMAO
I hope they reprint double colorless. It’ll allow Terapagos to hit more key numbers. I’m interestingly looking forward to this? A lot of my favorite decks unfortunately die, but at least it’s the end of Snorlax.
I know binary ;)
Amazing analysis!!! Thank you!!!? 🫡