I NEVER played Fallout.. | Fallout Episode 3 REACTION | First Time Watching | Reaction
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
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20:28 there is a big difference to the cave scene, in the cave titus ran away from the monster, leaving his squire behind... while maximus , at the river, runs toward the monster to save his squire... mostly repeating F..k, in concern of being too late....
The Ghoul is trying to bury his own hidden guilt at being brutal and cruel by compelling Lucy to act like him, thereby 'proving' that he's right. He needs to destroy her innocence and goodness because it reminds him of who he used to be.
That's why he's being petty and cruel, he sees it as demonstrating to himself that everyone becomes like him to survive. The final scene of watching the movie also shows that he compromised his sense of right even back then, because he agreed to shoot the guy in the movie, even though at first he didn't want to.
Think The Joker in The Dark Knight movie trying to force Batman to kill and betray his moral code.
Spot on. He’s also an object lesson for Lucy as she struggles to maintain her moral code and her identity in The Wasteland. She knows that he represents a path where moral and ethical choices are steps that can lead her down that path. The question (unanswered in this season) is can she be an object lesson for him? “Golden Rule, MFer!”
You really nailed the meta-nature of the whole movie set scene, where he is being directed to fall from being the ethical, law enforcing sheriff to being the lawless revenge taker. (And why? Because, says the director, the audience wants to see the degradation of a good man into an evil badass antihero. The writers, via the fictional director, are talking to us about us, the real audience of Fallout. It’s brilliantly meta.)
You’ve discovered that Fallout is a moral tale. It’s not a simple good vs evil, but an exploration of competing moral and ethical philosophies. Two of them are mentioned in the Vault community meeting: Kant (the golden rule) and John Stuart Mills (Utilitarianism-the greatest good for the greatest number of people). We’ve also already encountered the Ancient Greek sophist argument of Might Makes Right formulated as “the Law of the Wasteland”, the Platonic ideal of the Republic (where society is divided into functional classes-ruled by philosopher kings, enforced by a warrior class, and a proto-proletariat-exemplified by the “official dogma” of the Brotherhood of Steel).
But that’s not the real meat of the moral conflict, it’s just the context in the fallen world of Fallout. The real conflict is existential: who are you and what do you want to be? What decisions will you make that determine who you are?
Lucy’s ideals are those of the vault. They’re deeply ingrained in her vault’s culture but also formally taught (and I assume analyzed). The Golden Rule, management by Democracy and Consensus, the Rule of Law, Meritocracy, Family and Community are the stated ideals, the constellation of values, of Vault 33.
Lucy’s existential challenge is maintaining her values, i.e., her identity, when confronted with the harsh universe outside of the vault. She is told that she will have to adapt to survive, but more crucially than physical survival, will she hold onto her core self as she adapts. How much of her Self survive?
There’s a lot more to say about the moral dilemmas of the other characters, both major (Maximus and the Ghoul), and the other supporting characters. I won’t go on about the various moral arcs (other than to mention that Cooper the Cowboy was good like Lucy, but has fallen a long way into cruelty and a Hobbesian view of life being a war of all against all). I’m still trying to piece together how all these moral viewpoints are interacting and what the writers of the show are trying to say, if anything, beyond Lucy’s moral development (and that of Maximus).
Cooper’s tale is compelling because of the contrast between Cooper and The Ghoul. We want to know the details of the process that led Cooper to becoming The Ghoul. Perhaps he’s also an object lesson for Lucy. I don’t know, I haven’t figured it all out, even after viewing the whole season.
If you really think about it, The Goul has been around for 219 years.
That amount of time would change a person in such environment.
exact... and ghouls are usually shut out everywhere.. just look, where he was at the beginning, buried alive, if you listened to the talk of the guys, that got him out, it was for years....
then think about, what propably happened to his kid, when the boms fell, he mutatrd and survived... do you think she was as "lucky"...
he is a tragic charackter....
@@Metzwerg74 yeah that’s what makes him so interesting. Hopefully in season 2 his character develops more.
Great episode, loving your reactions!
Good and bad is not the same in the wastlands like to our time.
The ghoul lived 250+ years (220 years after the bombs and at least 30 years befor) and has seen the decline. He must have seen horrible things and he is a ghoul. Ghouls been hated from the most humans. Many citys in the game don't allow ghouls in it.
Good and bad are always the same concepts, they never change no matter the time or the situations.
@@ZachSawyer2077yup..no matter the context or time, good or bad always existed. These people just pretend not to so they can excuse the actions of characters/people they like.
For example, they say in medievals time it wasn't bad to publically execute a kid because they stole am apple, even tho it was. Just because it happened it directly mean it wasn't evil, it just means evil was more normalized back then.
Most of the time good and bad is a point of view. In some cultures it's bad to eat pork but in most a whole lot of us couldn't imagine life without bacon
@@kylethompson3008 Yeah that's the excuse people give themselves, we humans have this vice of elevating our uses and costumes to a moral degree they don't have. Talking about the example you made, if we were to objectively discuss what's "bad" about eating pork, how many reasons do you think we could find? Spoiler, none, because eating some bacon is not ruining the world or someone else's life.
@@ZachSawyer2077 That's a fairly simplified view on life. Good and bad are concepts, so by that very definition are abstract and often depend a lot on context. Using the pork example, some people are restricted from eating it by religious law, therefore they would be breaking a law and going against their religious principles by doing so. Isn't betraying your religion, or indulging in criminal activity 'bad'? Is murder bad? What if by committing a murder you are saving others in turn? Let's not even get on to the bloody trolley problem... Basically, life is complicated.
Having said that, the ghoul may only be following the law of the wasteland, but he's definitely an arsehole. Is he a cool badass? Yeah, sure. But he's also a right prick, and pretty nasty even when he doesn't need to be, so I'd certainly weigh him more on the 'bad' side of things.
You labeled the Ghoul the “bad” guy. I dunno, he kills people but I’ve never seen him as the bad guy, more like a bad ass. Just on a mission like everyone else. I think of him more as an outlaw in a world without laws.
This is sort of covered in the scene where they’re making the movie and Coop doesn’t want to kill the villain. You’re even mentioned! You are the audience that wants to see bad ass antiheroes. The Ghoul is objectively bad, if one’s moral state is defined by one’s actions. You’ve been seduced by The Ghoul’s bad assery and the fact that he gets some of the best lines in the story.
The dialogue between Coop and the movie’s director are extremely meta. They’re talking about our desires and what we want to see. The director is explaining to us something about Coop’s moral dilemma with regard to us. Is it his duty to give us what we want (the degradation of a morally good character into a lawless badass)? Or is it his duty to remain true to himself as the morally good upholder of the laws of society?
But to be clear, The Ghoul is bad. He imposes his will on others with violence. He uses them without their consent, trades them like property, and even inflicts unnecessary cruelty because he can. His few seemingly good acts are tainted by utility. He revives the dog to use it to track his bounty, not out of goodness. (We can revisit this with another example in the next episode where he performs another act that initially seems morally good, but is motivated by self interest.)
The Ghoul has all the right perks, bloody mess, cannibalism, endurance 😅
Plus he uses VATS to shoot heads and limbs right off!
@@gromester1092 indeed, he’s definitely using VATS
and considering his lifespan, maxed out all his weapon skills...
beware of flying eyeballs
Try watching the credits, there are clues that give you a bigger picture on what happened during the episode and how it was tied to the game.
You dont survive in the fallout world by being "good" The Ghoul is a pretty neutral person. He is just trying to survive in the wasteland, hunting bounty and such, earning caps to live another day. and yes killing people who is trying to kill you doesnt necessarily make you a bad person.by saying the ghoul is a bad guy is like saying Maximus a bad guy because He let his superior die and stole his power armor.
He used a peaceful, naive vault dweller who caused him no harm as fishing lure. He’s a little past neutral lol. But yeah there is always gray, no one is just “bad” or “good.” The writers did a great job making him and Maximus hard to define.
No, killing people that wants to kill you doesn't make you a bad person. But other actions he committed are bad, like depriving Lucy of water just for the sake of it. Maximus letting the Knight die wasn't bad either, the Knight was literally threatening his life. But bulling the other squire just for pity revenge was bad, glad he is beginning to make better choices.
Morally grey doesn't exist, it all depends on what good and what bad did you do in your life. Nobody is perfect of course ,but there are lines you don't cross.
BTW you can totally survive Fallout being a good person, doesn't mean being a foolish naive.
...hire a person to watch the armor.... he just sold some teeth for enough to pay for repairs, he cant afford a bodyguard
21:33 This is why you should never let a dog lick your face. Have you seen the kinds of things dogs put in their mouths?
I refuse to live in a world without dog kisses
@@loganwolfe7552 We SHOULDN'T let them lick our faces -- but we do it anyway 'cuz we love them. 🥰😉
Seriously, you need to get a blue and yellow Vault-Tech jumpsuit for these reactions.
It's not just appearances. Imagine Lucy in Vault 33 watching these episodes. Imagine what she would say as she reacted. 👉 _We_ _dont_ _have_ _to_ _imagine_ ‼
We are hearing _Lucy_ reacting to _Lucy_ , just with heavily rrrrrroll-edd "R"'s‼
As you edit, notice your moral outrage. Now think of Lucy's moral outrage‼
When she was in Philly, explaining to the Ghoul why she was justified in using force against him, do you not hear yourself? In this reaction? Lecturing the characters?
"I mean, don't be mean. Don't turn into a bully yourself!" See??? You _are_ Lucy, IRL‼
Now go get a chainsaw, cut off someone's head, and hit the road. Do not fight your destiny‼
"I'll play the part but I won't need rehearsing
All I have to do is... act naturally"
(last song this episode. Buck Owens, "Act Naturally":
v=fOpgL4mqEis?t=18 2min26sec
Note: the color of their outfits. Vault-Tec‼)
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