Don't know why, I feel like most top tier plane reviews aren't that complicated once you understand how top tier matches play out and most RUclipsrs just drag them out and watching people fly them get's boring after 2-3 game. Top Tier is like soccer, more fun to play then watch so Joob has nailed the top tier review format
Tbh I feel like the same applies for most planes nowadays, a lot of the time I struggle to find things to say about a given plane. That's why sometimes my videos are like 3 minutes long lolol
@@Thunderbox247 It’s not just about scoring though. it’s about the build up to the play, the many chances created, the defensive plays etc. In football since the goals come around rarely (depending on the game) the build up to a potential goal is more exciting. Like in american football for instance they don’t score very often either but points are worth way more.
While I'm grinding to the F-14 I was already interested in getting to the crusaders and now that it's been moved down it should be wonderful to fly during the grind!
Aside from the aforementioned “wing-falling-off syndrome” it’s a beautiful plane. Back when I used it, the go-to strat was to climb high and then snipe with aim-9Ds. Always netted about 3kills with just the missiles, then it’d be about how I flew and if I ripped.
@@normallymute0131 tip: disable the new boosters modification and use combat flaps over 750kph, they will reduce your turn rate and make your wings stay where they should
@@fenix2-222 also another tip from a crusader enjoyer try not to roll while also using yaw, and like joob said dont pull as hard as you can at high speeds
I've been having a lot of fun making people remember why the f8 is the mig master. Migs are so overconfident from having to face overtiered and underperforming jets. So clapping their cheeks is a good feeling
my only issue with the F8U is i have a terrible habit of ejecting my wings because i'm used to every other plane/jet i fly being able to full pull and the worst issue is locking up.
Saw this thing was getting moved to 10.0 and knew exactly what to do. Got a buddy and flew a 2-man in it. We had a thing going where we would climb to super high altitude in close formation, and once we saw contrails coming towards us trying to contest altitude, we'd split right and left to get to a separation of around 4km. The poor dude pushing us would be forced to pick one of us if they didn't want to be purely defensive. Whichever one of us they were going for would bait while the other one would immediately start jockeying for a missile shot once the aspect got closer to side-on. They were too close to dive away. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
@@casematecardinal I don’t use kph so I don’t know what that equals but 700 and above and you’ll rip turning hard in my experience, just can’t treat it like a phantom basically lol
Its a long way to paradise. The F8U-2 is really good, once I saw it at 10.0 during the event I went ahead and aced the crew for that plane after learning to play it safe to not rip my wings and I say the danger of ripping your wings will teach you to conserve your energy when in a high energy state. If anyone is wondering how you bleed speed so you don't rip your wings, pull up when its safe to do so or when turning to engage an enemy aircraft. And if you have trouble with your guns try using the combat flaps below 540mph, it will raise the angle of your nose and give you a better shot.
First manufactured in March 1955, The F-8 Crusader was the last carrier-based American fighter with guns as the primary weapon. The RF-8 Crusader was a photo-reconnaissance aircraft that played a crucial role in the Cuban Missile Crisis, providing essential low-level photographs impossible to acquire by other means. Naval Reserve units continued to operate the RF-8 until 1987. Coming from a previous generation, the Crusader was the best American fighter for dog fighting with Vietnamese MiGs. The Crusader would be credited with the best kill ratio of any American aircraft in the war, 19:3. A unique feature of the Crusader was its variable-incidence wing, capable of being raised at the front. Additionally, the entire leading edge was slatted, and the ailerons drooped with the flaps. This allowed for better low-speed performance and visibility, by permitting both a nose-low fuselage and a high angle of attack, during carrier landings. Nevertheless, the Crusader's low speed yaw behavior was always dangerous, in spite of the vertical fin increase, installation of skegs and strong dihedral built into its horizontal tail, among other modifications of the original project. Several modified F-8s were used by NASA in the early 1970s, proving the viability of both digital fly-by-wire and supercritical wings.
Every other match I get an ace with this thing. Also about the performance difference between this and the f8e, the f8e is faster in a straight line, has a bit stronger wings and is heavier by consequence. The F8u2 is lighter, climbs faster and turns better+ better energy retention / rate, also lower fuel consumption. The acceleration in a straight line is similar between them. Don't jump to conclusions that because the F-8e has more thrust that it means it is better, it also is 1000kg heavier
The F8E is everything the F8U is but better. Can't wing rip like the U can. Gets an Aim-9C which is completely busted at high altitudes and when your level with your enemy at low altitudes. It has better flight performance as well.
Dropping from above to below wing critical mach during a turn does do strange things to flight performance in many planes - didn't know it was so profound in the F-8.
the F-8U was already amazing at 10.3 imo but now its even better. I really like the AIM-9D, more than the 9G even. The only flaw im having with the plane is that it rips if you roll and pitch too much.
@@ygmtiii2671 i think you misread my comment, i never said the 9D was better, but i said i like it more. The 9D seems to be doing way more than the 9G in my games and ot feels a bit more flare resistent, thus i like using it more.
You solved a problem that shouldn’t be a problem. War Thunder players just want to go full throttle full speed and turn at 15 Gs all the time. That’s not how ANY aircraft works. It might be an E-sport game, but it’s still a “simulator” you have to fly like you’re actually flying a plane. Speed management, knowing the limits of the aircraft, knowing its capabilities. Players just refuse to do this and then want to complain when their wings rip, or they can’t pull a 10 second turn at Mach 1.2 or they compress and eat the dirt. It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience. Just manage your speed!!!
I got an ace in this plane after this video on my first match...21 matches later of all 10.7 been killed 20 times by f5c if you turn hard what so ever the wings rip so its impossible to avoid these planes and get someone off your tail 50 matches now everyone at 11.0 so this magical downtier doesn't exist
The wings will rip off above 950KPH so if you are gonna turn hard deploy your air brake and turn off your after burner works every time i havent ripped my wings off ever since i’ve stuck to this rule
I am the f104 (calsonic) that you shot down with one burst. We were seeing if we could reach the max alt for the f104. You are nasty with the cannons btw.
Hey Joob love the vids they keep me going even tho life is trash right now. Was wandering if you grinded the A-7K cause i did and need some professional to give me tips and hints on how to use and do good. thx ❤
I just experienced this while trying to spade it, out of 30 or more matches, our USA team won maybe 3 or 4 because of the a10 spam. Evan had a Lvl6 with an a10 shred 2 or 3 of us from the back row on the runway immediately at spawn and then left, must've shit himself seeing the repair bill😂
Also why are the Aim9Ds better than the Aim9Es?… your missiles are going like Mach 3, burning longer, and tracking better. Aim9E I have to be literally 2km or less, they can’t be going fast and they can’t turn AT ALL or the missile will just not hit. Thinking about it, I’ve hit shots with the Aim9B that the E couldn’t. I’ve fired a B at a guy, figured it was never going to make it, went off to do something else and had the 9B kill the guy 15 seconds after I first fired it. Never had an E do that. My 9Es also ALWAYS go for flares, even a single flare and even when they are on burner. The 9Bs seem to ignore flares unless they spam 4-5 a second and aren’t burning. I think Gaijin just screwed up the programming of missiles somehow, or don’t full understand how to make them work as intended. One last note. I’ve had a guy 10,000 feet below me shoot an R3R straight up at me and had it hit me, even after I spiral climbed to evade it. That is not how Cold War era missiles worked, other than the Aim54(and I doubt even that missile would make the same shot). 9km range doesn’t mean vertical, and Mach 1.7 is not all that fast for a missile. it should not have been possible for that thing to travel straight up over 3km while also trying to lead me as I maneuvered. Leads me to believe that Gaijin really haven’t programmed missiles properly.
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Don't know why, I feel like most top tier plane reviews aren't that complicated once you understand how top tier matches play out and most RUclipsrs just drag them out
and watching people fly them get's boring after 2-3 game. Top Tier is like soccer, more fun to play then watch
so Joob has nailed the top tier review format
Tbh I feel like the same applies for most planes nowadays, a lot of the time I struggle to find things to say about a given plane. That's why sometimes my videos are like 3 minutes long lolol
@@_Joob yeah, short sharp and to the point
soccer/football is very fun to watch when you support a team
@@Daakkii they score once or twice in a 2 and a half hours or something, the high light reals can be entertaining but..............
@@Thunderbox247 It’s not just about scoring though. it’s about the build up to the play, the many chances created, the defensive plays etc. In football since the goals come around rarely (depending on the game) the build up to a potential goal is more exciting.
Like in american football for instance they don’t score very often either but points are worth way more.
While I'm grinding to the F-14 I was already interested in getting to the crusaders and now that it's been moved down it should be wonderful to fly during the grind!
Aside from the aforementioned “wing-falling-off syndrome” it’s a beautiful plane. Back when I used it, the go-to strat was to climb high and then snipe with aim-9Ds. Always netted about 3kills with just the missiles, then it’d be about how I flew and if I ripped.
@@normallymute0131 tip: disable the new boosters modification and use combat flaps over 750kph, they will reduce your turn rate and make your wings stay where they should
@@normallymute0131 Ooh awesome tips from you and Fenix. Right now I'm about to research f9f-2 and move onto rank 6 from rank 5.
@@fenix2-222 also another tip from a crusader enjoyer try not to roll while also using yaw, and like joob said dont pull as hard as you can at high speeds
@@fenix2-222 didn’t have boosters installed cause I was broke and gunning for the tomcat
I can get one 11.3 prem what would be the best. I already have experience in Russia high tiers planes.
I don't think there's good answer to that, as whatever you pick, you will be food for F-16 and Migs 29 anyway
annnnnd the jaguar gr1a stays at 10.3 trust gaijin
The region affecting match maker thing is so real. Ever since disabling the US server I’m getting way less USA vs USA matches at 9.7-10.7 br
Wow! Who would've knew turning off US severs get you less US players!
@@lemieux-z8933 no, hes saying he has been getting less us nation vs us nation games, like the us in war thunder exclusively.
Yeah, idk why Americans spam so much at high brs. And 90% of them are around lvl 30/40
@@dnfluffles772 I know that
@@lemieux-z8933😂 goofball he’s talking about the group he’s playing as. Literally nothing to do with the players
This plane is a menace... To my wallet
I prefer the F8E because I like the larger margin of error before my wings go bye bye
Su22 pls play su22 I need tips and I need to know if it's just garb
I've been having a lot of fun making people remember why the f8 is the mig master. Migs are so overconfident from having to face overtiered and underperforming jets. So clapping their cheeks is a good feeling
We love Crusader
true, that bloody Pog plane has been the bane of my existence in my Ayit, that thing could be coming at you in the most unexpected ways.
my only issue with the F8U is i have a terrible habit of ejecting my wings because i'm used to every other plane/jet i fly being able to full pull and the worst issue is locking up.
F8 crusader has been getting a small surge in content, and it's very well welcomed by me.
Saw this thing was getting moved to 10.0 and knew exactly what to do. Got a buddy and flew a 2-man in it. We had a thing going where we would climb to super high altitude in close formation, and once we saw contrails coming towards us trying to contest altitude, we'd split right and left to get to a separation of around 4km. The poor dude pushing us would be forced to pick one of us if they didn't want to be purely defensive. Whichever one of us they were going for would bait while the other one would immediately start jockeying for a missile shot once the aspect got closer to side-on. They were too close to dive away. Damned if you do, and damned if you don't.
it is like a jumpscare for me when the wings fall off because the sound it suddently makes
I recently got this plane, and no joke, my second game In it was an ace. It was my first ace playing jets at all, and it was awesome
It was 10.3* which it was really good at that br and now its even lower
Now though it does feel like a better stopgap and makes the F-8E shine brighter. Better missiles, stronger airframe and truly beautiful dogfights.
@@normallymute0131 trueeee
8U however dodges all the premium gamers in their 11.3 jets, which in turn drags you to 9.7-10 games full of A-10 and Su-25, much easier to deal with.
Why did they reduce this to 10.0, like they were op enough when they were 10.7 or idk
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Besides the terrible wings and uptiers, it’s pretty good, just say below 650-700 mph and don’t turn above 9-10 g’s
Nah you can turn as hard as you want bellow about 870kph. And above that just stay at or bellow 12g. As long as you do that you won't rip wings.
@@casematecardinal I don’t use kph so I don’t know what that equals but 700 and above and you’ll rip turning hard in my experience, just can’t treat it like a phantom basically lol
Its a long way to paradise. The F8U-2 is really good, once I saw it at 10.0 during the event I went ahead and aced the crew for that plane after learning to play it safe to not rip my wings and I say the danger of ripping your wings will teach you to conserve your energy when in a high energy state. If anyone is wondering how you bleed speed so you don't rip your wings, pull up when its safe to do so or when turning to engage an enemy aircraft. And if you have trouble with your guns try using the combat flaps below 540mph, it will raise the angle of your nose and give you a better shot.
cool.......... still can't be bothered going back for it, not with the over G issue still present (I am a bit of a reckless pilot)
also FISH
First manufactured in March 1955, The F-8 Crusader was the last carrier-based American fighter with guns as the primary weapon. The RF-8 Crusader was a photo-reconnaissance aircraft that played a crucial role in the Cuban Missile Crisis, providing essential low-level photographs impossible to acquire by other means. Naval Reserve units continued to operate the RF-8 until 1987. Coming from a previous generation, the Crusader was the best American fighter for dog fighting with Vietnamese MiGs. The Crusader would be credited with the best kill ratio of any American aircraft in the war, 19:3. A unique feature of the Crusader was its variable-incidence wing, capable of being raised at the front. Additionally, the entire leading edge was slatted, and the ailerons drooped with the flaps. This allowed for better low-speed performance and visibility, by permitting both a nose-low fuselage and a high angle of attack, during carrier landings. Nevertheless, the Crusader's low speed yaw behavior was always dangerous, in spite of the vertical fin increase, installation of skegs and strong dihedral built into its horizontal tail, among other modifications of the original project. Several modified F-8s were used by NASA in the early 1970s, proving the viability of both digital fly-by-wire and supercritical wings.
Every other match I get an ace with this thing. Also about the performance difference between this and the f8e, the f8e is faster in a straight line, has a bit stronger wings and is heavier by consequence. The F8u2 is lighter, climbs faster and turns better+ better energy retention / rate, also lower fuel consumption. The acceleration in a straight line is similar between them. Don't jump to conclusions that because the F-8e has more thrust that it means it is better, it also is 1000kg heavier
The F8E is everything the F8U is but better. Can't wing rip like the U can. Gets an Aim-9C which is completely busted at high altitudes and when your level with your enemy at low altitudes. It has better flight performance as well.
Dropping from above to below wing critical mach during a turn does do strange things to flight performance in many planes - didn't know it was so profound in the F-8.
Hello :D
Joob, just asking do u have a discord server with like minded wt players or just wt players?
How did they design a plane with oversteer? Ferrari? 2:03
patrons meaning subscribed to your channel? i wonder what video my name is in? lol
Can you show us some clips of you being bad at the game it would be entertaining
a plane indeed
make a video about the f100d please
Ok random thing but joob means drink's in estonian
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the F-8U was already amazing at 10.3 imo but now its even better. I really like the AIM-9D, more than the 9G even. The only flaw im having with the plane is that it rips if you roll and pitch too much.
U srsly like the D more than the G? Why?
Uh no. Never has the 9D been remotely close to 9G. What are you smoking
@@ygmtiii2671 i think you misread my comment, i never said the 9D was better, but i said i like it more. The 9D seems to be doing way more than the 9G in my games and ot feels a bit more flare resistent, thus i like using it more.
@@boosteduwu5221 bro really likes having a caged seeker, dang
Doesn’t matter what you “feel”. The two aren’t even comparable it’s so far apart. Just a dumb comment
What do u play on ( console or computer )
ah yes, wing adios syndrome
It isn’t the poilet it’s the jet
I've been trying to get to this jet since I started playing WT 400hrs ago. So much grinding, so little skill
You solved a problem that shouldn’t be a problem. War Thunder players just want to go full throttle full speed and turn at 15 Gs all the time. That’s not how ANY aircraft works. It might be an E-sport game, but it’s still a “simulator” you have to fly like you’re actually flying a plane. Speed management, knowing the limits of the aircraft, knowing its capabilities. Players just refuse to do this and then want to complain when their wings rip, or they can’t pull a 10 second turn at Mach 1.2 or they compress and eat the dirt.
It’s super easy, barely an inconvenience. Just manage your speed!!!
You’re still right
I got an ace in this plane after this video on my first match...21 matches later of all 10.7 been killed 20 times by f5c if you turn hard what so ever the wings rip so its impossible to avoid these planes and get someone off your tail 50 matches now everyone at 11.0 so this magical downtier doesn't exist
Everyone complains about the rip... Just press W every 2 seconds...
Reverse powercreep lmao
Feels like this is just making the compression around 8.7+ to ~ 10 worse.
The wings will rip off above 950KPH so if you are gonna turn hard deploy your air brake and turn off your after burner works every time i havent ripped my wings off ever since i’ve stuck to this rule
:D aim-9d go zoom
Cool plane, but only problem is you need to have wing insurance.
Tried playing this, made one turn and instantly snapped a wing, idk about best 10.0 brother...
I am the f104 (calsonic) that you shot down with one burst. We were seeing if we could reach the max alt for the f104. You are nasty with the cannons btw.
30k stream?
Hey Joob, you should play the kfir c2 if you have it
It’s got the funny mouth that makes it look like it’s going meeeehhhhhhhh
Hmhm indeed, are you able to play the Mirage-2000 at 11.7? Or the the 2000D-R1 with the added gun pod and magics at 11.3?
Wish the F105D dropped by 0.3 or 0.7
I use the F8E primarily. Maybe I’ve slept on this plane a bit too much, thanks for the video!
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Much like the Phantoms, you won't rip if you use the combat flaps
A5C
I get 10.7 almost every match. Doesn't feel too bad though. No Aim-7F's is very nice :D
The new shell drag nerf dont affect the browning colt and most 30+mm
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When you are going to play the su 25
i just went to subscriptions and saw u posting
Hey Joob love the vids they keep me going even tho life is trash right now. Was wandering if you grinded the A-7K cause i did and need some professional to give me tips and hints on how to use and do good. thx ❤
Good video. I’ll subscribe
War Thunder is still not ready for 4th generation fighters
I got news for you
@@SoftPillow-qx9fo I already know, and it's still true.
Great vid again Joob. Just a friendly word of advise, check out the Me163B. At 8.0 the MM for the most part had been insanely good.
Yo! This some good content.
Grape Video Joob! 10/10
Alright time to try it looks fun
I like this plane a lot but I can't play it after school in my area lets out because all it is is a-10 teams for the next 4 hours.
I just experienced this while trying to spade it, out of 30 or more matches, our USA team won maybe 3 or 4 because of the a10 spam. Evan had a Lvl6 with an a10 shred 2 or 3 of us from the back row on the runway immediately at spawn and then left, must've shit himself seeing the repair bill😂
Wow time for joob to shred
Happy plane go brrrt lul
Airpane or Cheeburbur?
It seems to me like this is your favourite jet....
Mine is f-4E but F8U looks cool and is cool too
From the rear that plane is just gorgeous
Almost 30k
It’s so fun now
Kinda early
The f8e is 10.0 now isn't it
f8e is 10.3
@MUQTADA YT last I played it which was like a week ago, it was 10.0
@@gageroman9346 f8u was 10.3 before the event and after it lower to 10.0 and the f8e was 10.3 and after it still the same 10.3
Im glad they buffed it by lowering its br i love the crusader
Also why are the Aim9Ds better than the Aim9Es?… your missiles are going like Mach 3, burning longer, and tracking better. Aim9E I have to be literally 2km or less, they can’t be going fast and they can’t turn AT ALL or the missile will just not hit.
Thinking about it, I’ve hit shots with the Aim9B that the E couldn’t. I’ve fired a B at a guy, figured it was never going to make it, went off to do something else and had the 9B kill the guy 15 seconds after I first fired it. Never had an E do that. My 9Es also ALWAYS go for flares, even a single flare and even when they are on burner. The 9Bs seem to ignore flares unless they spam 4-5 a second and aren’t burning. I think Gaijin just screwed up the programming of missiles somehow, or don’t full understand how to make them work as intended.
One last note. I’ve had a guy 10,000 feet below me shoot an R3R straight up at me and had it hit me, even after I spiral climbed to evade it. That is not how Cold War era missiles worked, other than the Aim54(and I doubt even that missile would make the same shot). 9km range doesn’t mean vertical, and Mach 1.7 is not all that fast for a missile. it should not have been possible for that thing to travel straight up over 3km while also trying to lead me as I maneuvered. Leads me to believe that Gaijin really haven’t programmed missiles properly.
Also depends on the g overload for the missle. Aim9ds have 18g
A M1.7 missile can absolutely climb 3km straight up, and if you’re stalling out trying to climb away from it, that’s probably why you got hit.