After 8 years in the Marines I got insoles. My knee, hips and back stopped hurting. I was able to run again and lost 40 lbs. But hey RUclips said it’s not true so….
@@GoblinArmyInYourWalls Yes my guy, that's why obese people don't have flat feet, they were all born flat footed, and archs in your feet dont collapse. Tell me you literally know nothing about physics without telling me.
With your low IQ I can see why you had no other option but to join the marine corps 🤡 but hey go off on how your outdated training that made you crippled is superior than what this guy is saying 🤫
The engineering comparison to a bridge is slightly misguided. Take into consideration that a bridge is a static structure, while the foot is dynamic and needs to shift from a flexible (pronation) to a rigid (supination) position. The exact mechanism of how an orthotic works isn’t well known, but it has been demonstrated in the literature that an orthosis is effective in treating foot pain.
@@KD--sj8eo even if it isn’t highlighted, it’s truly not a big deal. Dealing in absolutes ie) this is the best…or this doesn’t work, may get you into trouble.
Yeah he's also misguided in his logic. Bridges are build that way because it's usually hard to support the middle. You you support the middle of the arch it's better
Forget that. Dude said that supporting an arch along the curve won't help anything. Lol. So not true. Arches are meant to provide better load bearing with less material. It's also funny how they resemble bending moment diagrams. Nonetheless if you add support along the arch, it will help. Assuming it's not cobble stone or the like
My son switched to shoes that allow hos feet to flatten in which has helped not inky his knee pain but also back which now 1 1/2 yrs later No pain at all 🤍 I need to follow his lead !! 🤍
As a person with normal arches, NOTHING is more uncomfortable than a shoe that has classic arch support. That part of my foot has never touched anything while walking and its weird when something does touch it.
let me throw in my story too..i used to suffer from knee and back pain since i was little..doctors ignored me until i went to the army where one doctor was like " well you have partially flat feet and also your joints are too flexible" they gave me some construction to wear over my knees...i got some really good insoles and you know what? it helped the pain. but you know what? with out them i just went back to the same freaking problem. on a him i ditched all my regular shoes and began walking in old plain flip flops..it was really hard at the beginning my feet would hurt and i got tired so easily..but after a few years i noticed i no longer have my back pain and no more KNEE PAIN!!! i didn't have any idea why that was because the moment i started walking in flip flops my "reasoning" was that "F all of this i can't keep relying on all these casts and insoles just to be able to walk without suffering" and i felt like i was so angry that the doctors can't actually treat me but just gave me more stuff for the pain i just lost trust..only years later i realized i basically was walking in bare foot shoes..my foot got extremely wider to the point that i couldn't even wear my old shoes. so yes. insoles and other helping devices might help the pain but they won't get you stronger, they won't treat your problem. Edit: oh and i forgot to mention my feet are no longer "flat" i have a perfect foot print on all my shoes, in the sand and when i leave water foot prints behind me.
My story is similar to yours. I ran around barefoot a lot as a kid. When I started wearing gym shoes as a tween I started getting plantar fasciitis and corns and other foot problems. So painful! Eventually I started wearing flip-flops most of the time and the girl problems began to disappear. Now I’m in the process of getting *fancy* barefoot shoes since sadly, flip-flops aren’t office appropriate wear and I’m a working adult now.
@@snowwonder9814 I'm glad you were able to figure out the way to help yourself..our foot health and strength is so underrated..if people realized how much traditional shoes hurt their feet they wouldn't buy them anymore
The flip flops let your feet move more freely and they don't throw your body out of alignment so it's easier to maintain correct posture, which is key to get rid of back ache
First, hes a physical therapist, number 2, orthopedics only help injuries or when an arch needs to bee formed, eventually it will weaken the foot muscles
I think there's a reason only people who have needed an ortho are disagreeing with him. The rest of us don't have this pain my friend. Because we have stronger feet.
As a podiatrist i agree with the support part and diffences in arch height. Pretty neat stuff. But when i make orthotics i correct the foot from the subtalair joint by supinating or pronating the calcaneus. The arch follows by itself and i let nature take its course.
Where can someone get orthotics like this? I’ve used all the “super feet” brand orthotics but I still end up with really bad ankle pain in my right ankle after a weekend of doubles serving tables
The guy in the video is the farthest from an expert you can get. He's a foot fetishist who's pushing his belief that feet should look like those of a monkey.
Yeah this is exactly what my Podiatrist did. I have flat feet (14° arches) due to hypermobility at my joints. The orthotics don't raise the arch like in the video, they supinate my feet by supporting and adjusting the angle of my calcaneus (heel). Having support underneath the arches just feels like I'm walking on a golf ball. OP misses that this is not what orthotics are designed to do for fllat feet!
It’s crazy how many comments exist saying that the info here is straight up wrong. He’s simply talking about the optimal way to support your foot arch. A lot of you are focusing on personal anecdotes about how an orthotic alleviated your foot pain, which is a concept that is not in any way being opposed by this video. For those of you saying that the bridge example is nonsense, as a biomechanics graduate student, that’s how I learned about the load-bearing properties of the foot arch as well (btw, biomechanics = biology + classical physics). If you want your foot arch to increase the load-bearing capacity of your foot, then listen to what this video says. If your feet are in too much pain to do so, then obviously this video isn’t for you and you need a quicker solution like an orthotic
Maybe I’m wrong but he’s kinda miss representing what insoles with arch support can do. I can only approach this with my knowledge as a runner, but arch support or basically a cushion which spreads out the pressure when running on cement is extremely helpful for reducing impact. If the arch is fit to your foot, it won’t stop your foot from compressing the fabric and doesn’t weaken your arches. Using the bridge example a larger toe box simple allows your toes to redistribute force better so there’s less pressure. A cushion like an insole can do the exact same thing. Then about building arch strength, if my feet, shins, etc are hurting and are still being stretched before and after my runs, then it’s building strength. The notion that arch supports weaken your foot kinda seems absurd to me.
Yeaaaa I wore flat shoes with impression foam while I had to walk 10K steps a day on concrete. Immense foot pain to the point it was debilitating. I had to quit my job. Got some custom orthotics and now I can actually do productive PT whereas previously I could only focus on pain management. Listen to orthopedic specialists, not this clown on the internet.
@@Bigkahkistan sorry but you’re wrong. He only states “widest at the toes and completely flat.” He says nothing on thick soles or memory foam. Watch it again if you think you’re correct.
@@pearlywhites3025 sorry but you’re wrong. He only states “widest at the toes and completely flat.” He says nothing on thick soles or memory foam. Watch it again if you think you’re correct.
Yes as someone with wide flat feet if I had taken your advice, oh wait I was wearing wide flat soled shoes at the time, I had severe foot and ankle pain. Having a stiff soled shoe and then orthotics years later was the only thing that kept me from needing surgery.
@@jenniferhouse1939 you realize there is multiple widths of wide as well? Just like there is a length size there are multiple "wide" sizes. His advice prevents nothing and will cause proble.s. The foot is a dynamic structure that moves unlike a bridge. You need proper support and fit. Walmart and Payless ain't got that.
@@brandonbrown3600 obviously you didn't read or pay attention. Our biggest problem w shoes starts at infancy and toddler ages because of using the incorrect shoes. We would have half the problems we do if our shoes were correctly made. There are some ppl who are too far gone and shoe change will do nothing and there are some who genetics and accidents also play a role but for a majority it is because our shoes are too narrow at the top half. Our feet are meant to spread out and widen as we stand and as we get older. And our terrain also play a role in that. Ppl in grasslands wouldn't have as wide and muscular feet as someone who live in the rainforest or mountains (all this based on if we lived barefoot). Our shoes prevent us from building proper muscle and tendon structure in our feet. Are there better designs coming, yes, is it going to solve everything, no. One because it's not widely known or accepted nor is it actually walking barefoot but it's better than what we have had. Will there be exceptions, yes, but over all this is most of worlds issue. Our shoe design has been more for fashion and less for protection, the design has been crappy for years. Yours truly, Someone who hates to be barefoot but has had a lot of foot issues and spends most days standing and walking
@@jenniferhouse1939 hm that's interesting, I'd like to look into that. I agree that many shoes are horribly made support-wise, and hate shilling out $130 every two years to prevent God awful knee and hip pain. Actually rolled(sprained) my ankle running in a pair off $10 Walmart sneakers. Those things were a death trap. I'm curious about what you're saying with how shoes effect us from long term wear during development, but I'd imagine part of it is evolution over time like how we need our wisdom teeth removed or how some people simply have predispositions to bunions.
Maybe for now, but I truly believe that minimalist shoes with a slight pad on the heel is best for human bodies. I use to have constant knee pain and switched to water shoes where I cut the front of the sole out and I feel great now.
@@Pidgeys what do you work as? what is your activity levels? and what is your experience with flat shoes and orthopedic insoles? You do realize that you can work on your muscle + having support at the same time to maximize comfort you know? its called a multi-tier solution.
I have very high arches and worked as a custodian for about 6 months where i was on my feet my entire 8 hour shift, 5 days a week. Once I switched from regular athletic sneakers to 'barefoot' shoes with a wide toe box and no cushy support roughly 2 months in, my feet hurt about the same but the rest of my body ached FAR less after about a week or two of adjustment. However, that's a lot different from my retail experience where I wasnt using my feet actively and had to stand in place a majority of the time with a bit of casual walking here and there.... I'm sure the condition of the rest of your body makes a difference too. But for me it was a game changer. Honestly I think the wide toe box and light, flexible material of the shoe was more important than the lack of support since it allowed my foot and toes to actually flex and work instead of being constricted against each other. I'm a very wobbly person who loses my balance and rolls my ankles easy, but in those shoes that was way less of a problem. If you can find a flexible, lightweight, wide toed shoe that still has arch support I'd recommend trying it out. It took a couple weeks for me to notice a difference because I was walking slightly differently and had to adjust, but once I did it was awesome Ive heard it be described as 'you wouldn't do push-ups on a soft surface like a bed just because it's cushier and more comfortable' which makes sense with building strength, but if you aren't doing something that WOULD actively build strength, it makes sense to wear something cushy and comfy. Just depends on what you're doing and what your needs are
Wearing arch support all day is like wearing a back brace or knee sleeve all day… it will end up making you weaker when not wearing it. Not solving the problem
Yeah I'm taking this one with a grain of salt. I was born with inverted arches (my navicular was deformed in both feet) and they had me in orthotics for years. It was explained to me as not being about strengthening the arch it's about trying to get everything to sit and align correctly in your legs, hips, and lower back
Lol lots a people debunking this so I’ll throw a story in too. In middle school I used to come home with such bad foot pain it would radiate up my leg for HOURS. Like when I would finally lay down to go to bed I was just in pain and it was a large factor in my insomnia. When I told my parents, my mom (who used to have high arches that COLLAPSED because she never wore proper footwear growing up and in her young adulthood) immediately got me a set of orthotics. It was night and fucking day. My feet still give me trouble from time to time if I’m standing in one place for too long, and if I try to go out without my orthotics it’s a nightmare, but for the most part I’m foot pain free. On a side note I think it’s hilarious that you’re trying to apply logical engineering to the human body when it’s basically the biggest middle finger to logistical engineering XD Like evolution did us dirty in so many ways lol
when in middle school, what kind of shoes did you use? Also, of course if you never give time for your feet and calves to strengthen when you remove the orthoics it's gonna hurt/be uncomfortable. That's the whole point of transitioning to barefoot shoes
@@marturomanoI wore shoes he recommended as a kid, still ended up in terrible pain and needing orthotics later in life because of daily pain caused by feet and knees issues that need me to have very good arch support.
I imagine if you've had arches that have collapsed because you've neglected your feet for years in footwear that are too narrow then yes it would help you a lot, for people with healthy feet, buying some wide toe shoes should be all you need to keep healthy feet.
You literally proved his point though, going out without your special shoes is a nightmare because they weakened your arch further. You are reliant on a special type of shoe instead of having rehabilitated your feet.
It was actually intended to help give ppl that curve in the center that were originally flat footed. I know bc I was flat footed in my teens and wore the custom inserts for 2 years before I'm now left with the permanent arche that should be there and have way less back problems.
@@ImprovingPerson I was starting to get back problems from being flat foot + being very active in sports. Once I started wearing my custome inserts which fit in any shoe bc they don't go all the way to ur toes, it took days to start feeling improvement and after a few years of wearing them I noticed I permanently had the arche in my foot and didn't need the inserts. It's been over 14 years since wearing the inserts and I still am no longer flat footed. I personally recommend if u have flat feet pain issues but I have heard it can eventually curve ur spine being flat footed
Ive gone through 3 pairs of orthotics in my life and I'm waiting on my fourth. At best I have a year or two without pain after my old (soft) orthotics wear down. My podiatrist has been wearing his hard orthotics for 3 decades, they work perfectly for him, so I ordered the same type for my 4th pair. Not all feet retain an arch, my feet are so elastic that on soft surfaces my arch actually pronates/inverts and this is something I'll have to deal with as long as I'm living
@@F-aber When you're still growing, you should be getting new orthotics because your feet are still changing. As a fully grown adult, you can get permanent orthotics. If your orthotics have a padding on top, that will wear away; but some people choose solid orthotics that don't wear down the same. Even with insurance, orthotics are expensive in the US. I had 4 custom fitted pairs and a handful of store-bought orthotics (nowhere close to as effective). My custom-fitted orthotics don't have any padding. They're definitely something that takes getting used to; but they last until my feet change (which shouldn't happen anymore as an adult).
High arches need this, I have very high arches. Without something under the arch it’s just floating, and the pressure of your body makes your ankles buckle, without that support in the middle I would be walking on my ankles instead of my feet. The only part of my feet that touch the ground are my heels and toes and it’s extremely painful, I have to be careful when I walk or else my feet will give out and I’ll fall. Ever since I got orthotics I can walk actually on my feet, my ankles are stronger and more supported and I can actually walk.
I spent 7 years in the British army and had CONSTANT foot problems. Constantly going for runs and receiving zero information about running form and foot strength. Ended up getting orthotics made for me to prop up my arches. Now I’m in civilian land and started barefoot running and foot strengthening exercises. All that pain has gone and I can’t believe how many years it took to get here.
I have orthotics that are more like that - the support is mostly at the ends. My feet (and the rest of my body…) are hypermobile, and I have no arch (my footprints curve out lol). I still need some support in the middle because the tendons that hold up your arches are basically non-functional in my feet. Good times
Definitely important for people to recognize, some of us still need orthotics. I too got hyper mobility issues. I have crazy hard orthotics but that's the only thing that solved it, and solved it 90% of the issue. Orthotics can be a long term solution, but should also be combined with exercise to strengthen the feet.
I have med-high arches and experienced crazy foot pain in my earlier adult life. I wore basic memory foal or gel insoles that came with whatever show I happened to be wearing through. I started messing around with general Dr. Scholls arch support insoles which helped mitigate some of the pain, but the real help was prescription orthotics. Getting the right shape to rest your foot on really does help (as well as a good callous stone).
Pumice stones shred your skin and can hold bacteria. Probably should use a foot file instead. And as someone who stands for 40 hours a week and sits by my computer the rest of the time, rest does not help because once you load them up the pain comes back. I use a massage gun and it gets the blood flowing and simulates 'walking around' imo and it's been a lot better than simply resting on off days
@@charlesj.easleyii7642 quick google search for 'are pumice stones sanitary' leads to webmd saying they're breeding grounds for bacteria and should be replaced once a month
It’s important to note that even if the arch itself is healthy in an over-pronated position, that severe pronatory motion can negatively impact the ankle, knee, hip, etc and cause pain. So building up the arch is sometimes needed to help align the lower extremities and hold everything more neutral.
yes! I have falling arches/nearly flat feet and not wearing my orthotics causes knee and hip pain. they actually had me stand on one foot in physical therapy to work on balance and arch strength to correct it, and while it's good to work on arch strength, it should NOT to replace orthotics.
@@dessertcactus Do you have scrunched toes from shoes? Because this guy has also said that it makes flat feet and caving worse when you're big toe doesn't splay out how it would if it weren't for narrow shoes.
@@ninjycoon surprisingly no, my shoes fit just fine. If they're too wide it actually hurts my feet and causes my calves to tighten. But like, a good running shoe puts less pressure on my knees and helps me walk. Arch support too. Without it my knees turn in and it really sucks
This guy for the most part does very good work. The issue is with musculoskeletal care is everything works and everything doesn’t according to the research. Therefore a one size fits all advice is not productive. He has great points in the sense that many people use arch supports when not needed or when they would be more optimal building strength in the foot.
Had many people comment on my big flat feet when i was a kid, according to them i needed to get insoles or special shoes made, i just laughed at them. Spent most of my younger life barefoot on a farm walking everywhere and climbing trees and stuff. I just always looked for shoes that was wide enough to be comfortable without squashing my toes. Still don't have any issues with my feet or balance and posture. Can't say the same about some of those that had "experts" mess with their feet.
And yet doctors generally sont agree on topics and are responsible for 250K deaths a year, not to mention you can easily verify his points qith research but thats beyond you
And that’s your fault for not verifying who he is….. he’s a Physical Therapist btw, has helped many Olympic athletes who suffer from flat feet, low back pain, shoulder pain etc.
For me, a custom fit orthotic just transferred pain from my foot to my knee. Another orthotic then transferred the pain to my hip. Solving the problem required getting rid of the orthotics and “supportive” shoes entirely and working on building up my foot strength!
Yes, wide toe box shoes are great. But this guy is not a podiatrist. The only thing that got rid of my debilitating foot pain was custom orthotics from a podiatrist.
Honestly, wide toe box shoes are a scam. I wear narrow shoes daily, and my toes have stayed naturally splayed. Not to mention that I also have ski boots and cycling shoes that are tight as hell.
I have narrow feet and an ankle arthrodesis, so I need heavily cushioned shoes to be comfortable. Because I wear orthotics, I now select shoes which are wide, and I do them up tightly, using a lace lock. Now, a tight wide shoe provides freedom for my toes to splay as much as they like, and despite the middle of the foot being held strongly, with the heel held down, they don't feel tight, and I never feel uncomfortable. HOKA ONE ONE FOR LIFE, BABY!
I have low, and by that, I mean zero arch, I’ve been doing exactly as you said my whole life and I still can’t walk for even five minutes without being in crazy bad pain, this is why you either talk to a doctor or do your own research, don’t listen to TikTok’s or yt shorts, people
1. Not how most modern orthotics are made, we mainly use a modified scanner not unlike the ones in printers 2. Orthotics with arch support are not designed for active correction of the foots posture, but rather to support it in a passive capacity. Sensomotory insoles are designed to train the foot to correct its own posture through adjusting load on muscle chains to get the body to compensate for rises/dips in tension 3. Low arches can have a detrimental impact on the loading angle of the tibia and in turn the knee, leading to gonarthrosis/permanent cartilage damage. 4. Walking on hard surfaces with minimal padding and a maligned foot can actually worsen the condition it was in as there is still no work being done by the arch supporting muscle groups, or through overloading metatarsals 2-3 in the area of the ball of the foot. Do ya research people
Oh! How much are the different methods used where you are? Where I work most are scanned, but there is still a significant amount made like this or with plaster casting tape. I do not know how much they are used compared to one another in percent though...
@@iridophorium the photocopier type scanners are the industry standard here, with a few exceptions and rare cases where floral foam (in the case of diabetic specific insoles) or a graphite sheet print are used.
thats only appliable for overweight people, most healthy humans do not have any provblems with switching to walking barefoot if thats done in a normal tempo, so no barefoot running at first
Thissss, bridges are floating over space, feet are on the ground, it would be like saying an elevated road can withstand more weight that just a normal one
@@zoroverse8358 An arched bridge is designed that way because an arch is structurally strong. You don't build an arch bridge, then put a support pillar in the center underneath the arch would you?
@@GameFuMaster We build arch bridges because we cannot put a support pillar in the middle. For example we build an arch bridge to get over water, then it would cost a lot to put a pillar under. However if we had an option, putting a pillar there would result in a stronger structure. Is it really that hard to understand that concrete is a better support material than open air?
Up until I bought a couple pair of orthotics I was suffering from some very severe back pain, this video is a disservice to those suffering in such discomfort.
Yeah, well since getting orthotics my knees have stopped dislocating when i run and my spine has straightened out. i can also now work 16 hours a day without pain in my ankles, knees, hips, and back But sure, RUclips guy has a point
Congenital flat feet here. Unfortunately nothing I can do to "fix" it. However, wide toe box shoes with zero drop was the best thing I ever did for my feet. Next was consciously keep my toes pointing forward and walking with good form.
If you are still having issues try looking higher, glutes, quads, hamstring or calfs.... You may have weak muscles affecting your feet. I switched to "barefoot shoes" which caused more problems but then I found out I had glute amnesia... got that fixed....but then I started having foot problems and instantly felt better walking barefoot or the barefoot shoes
it depends on what issues you have, as well as the orthotics. the type of shoes factor in too. it's possible the type you were wearing was a poor fit and caused issues, if you needed them at all, from what you wrote. edit: I totally agree with how you walk playing a role. they actually taught me how to properly walk in physical therapy!
i agree 100% . I suffered from this for years of using shoes that are not designed for a lot space for your toes. I switched shoes and doing some foot exercise now
@@Joshua-uq9zw which shoe were you looking at? i have had many pairs of xero shoes and sandals and none were hard at all and could all be rolled up easily.
@@joualavedra1208It is not an appeal to authority fallacy because the authority being appealed to here is valid. For it to be a logical fallacy you must appeal to an invalid source.
@@NolenGYT ehhhhh weeeeeell, that works if the people talking don't actually know the info themselves and must default on some authority anyways. If someone brought up an argument for example it's nice to refute it itself regardless of authority. Although I realize sometimes that's not possible. But sometimes it's the thing that distinguishes what's actually correct.
@@NolenGYTNo thats not at all how that works, an appeal to authority is stating x source is right as they are an authority, there is also the reverse, I forget the name, which is basically saying x ia not an authority and thus wrong
This topic is still highly contested in the academic field and there's no definite answer to flat feet and other related anatomic variations. What everyone can agree on is that activating your foot's muscles by e.g. barefoot walking is important and that orthotics are a last resort. Don't treat ppl without symptoms and wear proper shoes as shown in this video
As someone with extremely high arches I completely disagree. The orthotics for my shoes and the orthotic jandles I have have ON TOP of getting wider fitting shoes has completely changed my life. Both work together. Full stop.
Too much arc support in my every day shoe, gave me plantar fasciitus. It went away after I replaced the sole with a flat one. It also helped by walking in vibram five fingers, and by doing so made my foot stronger
I ended up getting orthotics because I have super high arches that werent flexible so I tended to walk on the outsides of my feet. The orthotics acted as that slight give that I needed in order to walk straighter and let my arch slowly start to move better over time.
@@YAMAZAK1 I also had really bad supination. Those orthotics helped correct it and strengthen my ankle while I did foot and ankle mobility and flexibility exercises, so now I don’t need them anymore 😊
I order Converse online, about $60 a pair. Unfortunately, they only last about three months. Then again, my $180 orthotics only lasted 3 months as well.
Ya when i used to run I had collapsing arches 🤦🏻♀️ due to my ignorance on proper foot wear. Anyways….. I had orthotics properly made that was $500 like 8 years ago that really helped fix my arches
@@mirvuuson I'm saying it could take you 5 seconds to prove him wrong. Being licensed means nothing. Also a doctor of what? Licensed in what? Orthopedics? Is he licensed in the field he is talking about? Is he a chiropractor? I have a feeling he's a chiropractor.... Anyways I'd go toe to toe with him any day as he doesn't have citations or evidence. Just diagrams and short videos. I struggle to find studies siding with him, but I can find hundreds against him. Do the research your self.
@@mirvuuson dont need to be a doctor when there are people saying better insoles helped with foot pain. I got some insoles for 20eur in my work boots that support the arch on my foot and all the pain was gone.
@@uo9521 First of all i was talking about his comparison with the bridge, the only reason they don’t have pillars under is because it costs a lot of material and it is hard to do so. But ideally you would just build on solid ground.
He’s literally a physical therapist. Also, it’s possible for doctors to have biases and flaws just as it is any professional, and orthotics are a holdover from a past, misguided understanding of foot health. Not all doctors keep up with the latest research, and so some end up promoting solutions that don’t actually work. Orthotics are a scam, because they symptom treat instead of healing the root cause problem. Symptom treating is still appropriate when the root cause cannot be addressed, but the thing is, most people’s foot pains can be addressed at the cause because it is usually caused by our bad shoes. Most shoes are narrow and have a raised heel because of fashion. This created most of the foot problems people suffer from. Allowing the foot to go back to its natural state lets it heal, though the healing process can be painful. Once healed however, you can proceed with a pain-free life.
My orthopedist has me supporting my heel and discouraged any arch support. I have flexible flat feet. The heel support allows my foot to rotate in to the proper position by keeping my heel steady. This also helped with plantar fasciitis.
@@joualavedra1208no this is true. Its called being disabled. Some of us need help with feet support. Just because some random guy on RUclips said no dosent mean that people don't need help.
@@JesusChrist-sm4bm"our" meaning disabled people? I guess but arc support is really just bad for normal feet, and og comment is just wrong, nobody said nothing about the feet not working
@@joualavedra1208 why would someone with normal feet get arch support, you know they don't just give out orthotics on the streets to everyone right? if a trained professional advised it its needed usually
He’s refuting his own conclusion is the same short. If you have fallen arches then you’re walking on a “flat bridge” that would require center support. We don’t use insole like that if your feet are normal….
I love the content and I'm a student of orthoprosthetics, so I have a minimum of knowledge on the subject, but I can't help but comment that the way the mold was taken is wrong, the hallux should have been raised to create a larger arch, and this it is not something that should be used on all people and will only allow an effective (not equal) distribution of force throughout the foot.
I had this too, the pain was intense, especially with sports. Started wearing barefoot shoes nearly 2 years ago though and my feet have strengthened intensely. I started out by using the shoes 1-2 hours a day and now I can do hikes / long walks on them. I can basicly walk in them all day now without any pain.
Fun fact, though some flat feet are genetic: most flat feet are actually collapsed arches caused by excessive wearing of I’ll suited foot wear as a child. Bare foot inside and something akin to Sandals outside is best practice
Thanks my kids both have flat feet from their dad and finding orthotics and shoes for them has been a mystery/hassle. Hopefully this is the solution they finally needed.
They could try out barefoot walking or barefoot shoes. But don't swap and be done with it. They can either wear them only for short durations and gradually increase the time, or gradually swap to shoes with less and less support and cushioning. Some pain can be normal due to muscles being built, but if you're overdoing it it can lead to injuries. In addition to that foot exercises are important and potentially wearing toe spreaders. But those can usually not be worn for a very long time. At least at first. Orthotics in shoes with a wide toebox can also help, but wearing _only_ orthotics will weaken the feet. So this is for some shaping, but nothing which should be worn all the time. If you got a good orthopedist talk to them. Good in a sense that they explain why the measure is taken and what the effects are. If they just prescribe orthotics without much explanation they are not a good choice. Orthotics are a tool for treating feet and while utilizing them correctly _can_ help, using them incorrectly, for example by _just_ wearing orthotics and doing nothing else, they can cause problems. Not just in the feet, but also the back.
@@ThePandafriend Thanks, may GOD bless you. Thanks for the insight. My 10 year old daughter refused to wear her orthotics because it makes her shoes fit too tight and uncomfortable so she wears her sneakers sometimes, but loves to wear her crocs mainly because of the comfort of the wide space. She occasionally complains of foot pain when walking for long periods of time. My 15 year old son has been wearing his orthotics for two years and still struggles with pain on certain days when doing lots of running for soccer practice to the point where it shoots pain from the foot up to half his leg(he doesn't want to tell the coach because he doesn't want to get kicked off the team) so he just misses the next practice day to give his foot/leg rest and time to heal. Thank GOD so far for his soccer games his foot/leg heal on time for those days. I'll try to get my kids to work on their foot exercises to strengthen their feet. Also did more research this year and came across what you advised about the orthotics and been wondering if my son should continue wearing them or not as we don't know if their making it worse instead of helping. Also he refused to wear orthotic friendly shoes because he said their ugly and not in style.
Ummm...no, you are not supposed to push the foot down like that. The client stands on the pad, supporting their own weight, showing their needed support area. Whoever did this and pushed the foot down, is an idiot.
@@marvin2678 arch support is not a lie, if not for arch supports and leg braces, I would still be in a wheelchair. But hey, YT told you so right? Must be true. Not the scientific evidence behind it or the countless evidence supporting it.
@@ASJMusher Then I guess you are right despite every doctor out there that does this while sitting down for the reason I mentioned. In other news, men can be woman.
*I guarantee most of this is caused by narrow shoes!* I had flat feet. I stopped wearing special inserts and started wearing wide flat shoes (vans) and my arch started appearing back with a year.
lol i couldnt do that, i can barely walk longer than 15 mins barefoot or in unsupported shoes until my feet start hurting, another 15 in and they hurt enough that i cant walk anymore
@@F-aber it takes time to strengthen muscles in your body to create stability, it's not going to happen overnight. Going from Birkenstocks to a 4mm sole would make anyone's feet hurt... it's like going from a cast to doing a pushup. If you don't want to put in the work, it's not for you
@@F-aber if you've got existing feet problems and have been wearing bad shoes your whole life then it could take potentially years to fully rehabilitate them. Don't push yourself or you might injure them and make it worse, just slowly progress.
@@NihongoWakannai I have had these feet problems since I was born, sometimes you have flat feet not because you wore tight shoes for too long but because you were born with them.
I dont know if this is a thing or not, but years ago i came up with a trick that helped me out.. What i did was train myself to land toe first instead of heel first with my steps. By impacting the toes and ball of the foot first, my feet now act almost like a natural spring board, reducing impact on the heel immensely, and giving me a much lighter and silent step. It also helps with running, giving me a quite literal "spring in my step" allowing me to cover more ground per stride
That's pretty much how nature intended us to walk (ball of the foot first). If you go for a walk or run out outside barefoot you'll naturally begin stepping like that. People only walk heel first because of the excess padding in modern shoes. No doubt your posterior chain has strengthened as a result of your transition. Check out the youtube channel Grown and Healthy.
I don‘t know about the medicine, but the physics is wrong here. An arch bridge usually transfers load into the anchors which need to withstand horizontal forces. So to support your arch in the foot you would need to wear very short shoes, which press your toes in the direction of your heel. Alternative would be something very sticky, to have a high friction content.
Nice, gotta love it when an engineer tell doctors what’s right or wrong based on a bridge. Imagine a doctor telling you how to build a bridge based off of human biology. Keep your engineering knowledge and stay away from medicine because they do not correlate
you can't compare a foot to a bridge. It is easier on you joints when your foot is fully supported and in the right plane. Mine are carbon fibre and layers of different foam. My knees haven't hurt like they did before I started wearing them.
You're wrong n some points! Im very flexible but weak joints by genetics. Without arches very hih and strong to hold my bone in my arch up,the bones in my arch flex downward with my bones rubbing and pressing on the GROUND! BONE ON GROUND! Worst pain EVER! I though i broke my foot! High arches train and exercise your muscles and tendons to hold that bone UP AND KEEP IN LINE WITH THE OTHER BONES! Getting a GOID FEET high arch exercised the muscles in my ENTIRE FOOT,ANKLE, CALVES, TIBIA AND FIBULA! Taking them off felt like i had CLIMBED MOUNTAINS of SAND up and down. But it was only CHANGING THE POSITIONING OF BONES! After i took them out,i had PERFECT arches and no pain or tightness for 90days! But had to return using them to WORK muscles in my feet. Strength training as you know it! Im completely flat footed and ankles cave inward. I walked like a duck at birth so have probs still today because my mom did nothing. Surprisingly my foot probs were from my LOWER BACK BEING WEAK AND HURTING AT 2YRS OLD TO WHERE I COULDN'T EVEN WALK NORMALLY FROM THE PAIN! I remember as a baby sleeping on my stomach with my knees tucked ul under me to stretch out my lower back! So the question is: HOW DO YOU FIX SOMETHING AT BIRTH AS A 2YR OLD TO FIX AS AN ADULT LATER IN LIFE? WHAT CAN PARENTS DO FIR A 2YR OLD TO PREVENT THIS?
This is utter bs though, we support a bridge by the end because we want passage below it, the best way to stabilize a surface on a bridge if we don't care about trafik underneath is by making it not a bridge.
Why use language like that to emphasize what you want to say? It’s not a perfect analogy, but it does prove the point well. If you were to support any muscle or body part all day long, it would lose its strength or functionality and there’s enough science around for you to be read to prove that point #useitorloseit
@@rondegoey then use that science, this engineering argument doesn't hold water, if you don't need a bridge to be traveled under you would make it not a bridge any day of the week, and we don't need our arches traveled under. Half worked analogies that kinda almost sound useful if you don't think too much about them don't help your actual arguments at all.
TLDR: listen to your foot doctors not some random internet engineer As someone who grew up dancing, none of my shoes had arch support and I was actually barefoot most of the time - It absolutely ruined my feet and my lower back - the only way I can comfortably walk or stand for long periods is high arch orthotics - I even wear them in my house shoes now because if I don’t I have to sit every 5-10 mins to relieve the pain.
Why do you keep using this stupid bridge analogy? It’s incorrect. The weight that is supported by your foot is distributed through the feet into the arch. This is entirely different from a bridge, arched or not, where the force is placed on top of the arch and is distributed down into the feet. The physics is vastly different.
4th grade i was having bad knee and hip pain, i had flat feet. doctor recommended orthotics, a trip to the orthopedic doctor and the pain stopped when i used the insoles they gave me. Now as an adult i just use medium arch support and all is fine. What he says about the narrow shoes is true to a degree, but im still going to listen to a doctor about human body health over a structural engineer. You can support your arch with orthotics and wear shoes with a wider toe box, id say that would be optimal for foot health.
Yep, my orthotics are prescribed by an orthopedist and done by a podiatrist, not an engineer because they aren't bridges, they are a complex mix of different structures that tend to move and shift around. I agree with the wider toe box but if I used bare foot shoes, with a soft sole and without insoles I'd need a cane within a week. I'm hypermobile so my feet pancake when standing but have very high arches when not weight bearing, so my insoles have high support and are very rigid in the front (i tend to pivot extremely along the fingers and especially the big toe). They are also high on both sides so I don't over and underpronate based on the surface I'm standing on. Foot flexibility is so bad physiotherapist took me off the curved balance ball and moved me exclusively to a stiff straight board. I wasn't using the ankles to balance, I tended to conform to the curvature of the ball for more grip. Used to wake up in agony every day (plantar fascitis, I left it untreated too long and that's how I had a heel stress fractures on one side and a metatarsal one on the others, at once), limping around, sprained ankles and almost fucked up a knee. Ortho banned me from wearing floppy soled shoes and prescribed insoles. Even without orthotics, having a stiff sole helps a ton Pain disappeared in a week, weight distribution even without insoles is night and day.
That'sssss why I hate sneakers. I wear converse because they're the most comfortable for me. Anything with an arch always bothers me and I always get shoes bigger than what I need because I have wide feet and need my toes to be able to breathe lmao
This is only true when the material properties of the arch are homogenous. No matter how much support you give to the ends of the arch, if your keystone is made of loose sand, you're going to have a failed arch.
Walk barefoot (or with minimalist shoes) over uneven terrain. This allows the foot to move and function in its natural manner and will develop muscles. The muscles give all the support you need.
As someone with flat ass feet who used orthotics for the past 4 years I have seen noticeable difference and it has let me use more shoes etc. helpful but obvs not the best
I've always had fat feet so I always wore wider shoes. I think this is why my feet aren't as tight. I always try and compare to see if I have bad feet lol
This is how cheap orthotics are made, not the kind which actually help your feet, I've had both and this kind are garbage, the good ones are made with your foot fully relaxed and plaster is used. I grew up barefoot or wearing shoes that gave my feet all the room they wanted and now I have debilitating bunions.
Trust me, if I didn't need to spend $600 a year on 2 pairs of shoes, I wouldn't. But when you're literally crawling to the bathroom because you can't get up and walk, then you can come talk to me about getting rid of arch support.
I have hyper-mobility in my ankles and use insoles to stop my feet turning in and causing me leg pain and in the future arthritis. They’ve been a huge help with my legs and also my confidence, as my walking always embarrassed me and it was mentally and physically draining to make my feet stay normal and not turn in. But hey, if you say they don’t work…
I have both high arches and probably the most flexible feet you would ever encounter (I have heds). I need support for the whole lot. Propping up the middle is just as important
@@AutoMotivate my body is still made of bones and muscles. I just happen to be a lot stretchier. I need rigid, hard supports that don’t have any give to support my arches. If you don’t know what hEDS is don’t bother commenting
Do you realise apart from a debatable resemblance there's not much similarity in the two? I didn't even knew what was arch support. Ever since I was a kid I had that pain in my foot. My natural reaction was to put something inside my school shoes that would push that arch up a bit. I'm not a civil engineer but, it always worked for me so hard to convince me there. Edit: I do agree that some people can have a flat foot and be totally comfortable with it. In fact, I've met people with flat foot who can lift weights, and also just do anything with greater stability. Edit 2: I think he's right. Flat foot with toes spaced apart feels better than any arch support. I guess our shoes damaged our foot 😅
@@rollinOnCodethe thing is, his analogy is wrong. Maybe for someone with perfect tendons and proportions, but for those who have irregular arches they help. I can't wear boots for extended periods without arches, but with them I can all day. He is wrong on this
I believe he is referencing about building the strength of your arch. Whereas orthotic relieve stress on the arch which is helpful for pain relief but might not be as strengthening for the muscles in the foot I am not saying I know anything. Just what I’ve taken away from comments and the video
Yeah. I got issued the exact wrong shoes in training and had to wear them for 3 weeks before we went to boots. My feet and shins would immediately get sore while running. It felt so much better rolling around in the sand and getting smoked with boots vs those god awful shoes. I remember one time I took them off and the way the bottom of my feet contacted the floor was different. It's like when you wear a retainer or braces and your teeth touch differently.
Unfortunately this isn’t the same for everyone. I myself was born with club feet, I have almost no arch support so I have to have inserts made to support the arch, I’ve tried Vans as a dress code before and couldn’t last a day, I have to wear wide fit shoes with inserts to function in the modern day having an insert can help the structure of your arch buildup muscle and stay up!
While I agree with your take that foot posture doesn’t matter as much as we it does, the CPGs still state that arch support is a grade A treatment for plantar pain. Do you have any research you could share?
Plantar fascia Tis is decay and death and atrophy of the areas tissues not inflammation, so yeah not using something that’s atrophied away would probably help with pain but it won’t help the root cause of the pain
@@theprodigalson4003 yeah. I’m just looking for research to support the stance that arch support isn’t helpful, as it goes against current evidence. Not saying it’s wrong, though.
Treats pain (the symptoms), but not the cause, which is weak arch muscles from narrow shoes with elevated soles. It only perpetuates the weakness like when wearing a cast on your leg and using crutches facilitates atrophy due to lack of activation. Crutches and casts are only temporary, but arch support gives your foot an indefinite need for it due to the weakness it causes.
@@SquatUniversity Please put your sources in the video description or a pinned comment next time. Both critics and people who believe you can stand to read more about the topic.
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After 8 years in the Marines I got insoles. My knee, hips and back stopped hurting. I was able to run again and lost 40 lbs. But hey RUclips said it’s not true so….
I mean, apparently his foot arch is static and does not move soo... yeah youtube says many things
@@chrismanich3063 yah also you dont support the middle of a bridge, those million ton cables? for show.
@@zzzz-fk8cei mean, different type of bridge entirely.
@@GoblinArmyInYourWalls Yes my guy, that's why obese people don't have flat feet, they were all born flat footed, and archs in your feet dont collapse.
Tell me you literally know nothing about physics without telling me.
With your low IQ I can see why you had no other option but to join the marine corps 🤡 but hey go off on how your outdated training that made you crippled is superior than what this guy is saying 🤫
The engineering comparison to a bridge is slightly misguided. Take into consideration that a bridge is a static structure, while the foot is dynamic and needs to shift from a flexible (pronation) to a rigid (supination) position. The exact mechanism of how an orthotic works isn’t well known, but it has been demonstrated in the literature that an orthosis is effective in treating foot pain.
Thanks for this viewpoint. I hope he addresses this.
@@KD--sj8eo even if it isn’t highlighted, it’s truly not a big deal. Dealing in absolutes ie) this is the best…or this doesn’t work, may get you into trouble.
we talking here about squatting
not a foot pain channel
Yeah he's also misguided in his logic. Bridges are build that way because it's usually hard to support the middle. You you support the middle of the arch it's better
Forget that. Dude said that supporting an arch along the curve won't help anything. Lol. So not true. Arches are meant to provide better load bearing with less material. It's also funny how they resemble bending moment diagrams. Nonetheless if you add support along the arch, it will help. Assuming it's not cobble stone or the like
We really do need to normalize wide toed shoes, it's ridiculous that we all stuff our feet into these things all day for aesthetics.
Do the use socks 😂
@@jc.eh.123 me do the use socks, thank you very much
My son switched to shoes that allow hos feet to flatten in which has helped not inky his knee pain but also back which now 1 1/2 yrs later No pain at all 🤍 I need to follow his lead !! 🤍
Facts. My feet started hurting a lot less when I found out I had wide, flat feet and bought shoes to accommodate them
It depends on usage. If I'm out hiking I like a tighter fitting boot. Prevents my foot and not from rotating separate off each other.
As a person with normal arches, NOTHING is more uncomfortable than a shoe that has classic arch support. That part of my foot has never touched anything while walking and its weird when something does touch it.
As someone with plank flat feet I wouldn't know. 🤷♂️ orthotics allow me to get through my day pain-free.
@@SIRslipperyasp91Facts
I also have normal arches and regular shoes don't bother me it changes person to person
YES i feel the same! Shoes with arch support give me the ick. 😄
Me too. It actually hurts way more to have an arch support putting all that pressure where there’s normally none.
let me throw in my story too..i used to suffer from knee and back pain since i was little..doctors ignored me until i went to the army where one doctor was like " well you have partially flat feet and also your joints are too flexible" they gave me some construction to wear over my knees...i got some really good insoles and you know what? it helped the pain. but you know what? with out them i just went back to the same freaking problem. on a him i ditched all my regular shoes and began walking in old plain flip flops..it was really hard at the beginning my feet would hurt and i got tired so easily..but after a few years i noticed i no longer have my back pain and no more KNEE PAIN!!! i didn't have any idea why that was because the moment i started walking in flip flops my "reasoning" was that "F all of this i can't keep relying on all these casts and insoles just to be able to walk without suffering" and i felt like i was so angry that the doctors can't actually treat me but just gave me more stuff for the pain i just lost trust..only years later i realized i basically was walking in bare foot shoes..my foot got extremely wider to the point that i couldn't even wear my old shoes. so yes. insoles and other helping devices might help the pain but they won't get you stronger, they won't treat your problem.
Edit: oh and i forgot to mention my feet are no longer "flat" i have a perfect foot print on all my shoes, in the sand and when i leave water foot prints behind me.
My story is similar to yours. I ran around barefoot a lot as a kid. When I started wearing gym shoes as a tween I started getting plantar fasciitis and corns and other foot problems. So painful! Eventually I started wearing flip-flops most of the time and the girl problems began to disappear. Now I’m in the process of getting *fancy* barefoot shoes since sadly, flip-flops aren’t office appropriate wear and I’m a working adult now.
@@snowwonder9814 I'm glad you were able to figure out the way to help yourself..our foot health and strength is so underrated..if people realized how much traditional shoes hurt their feet they wouldn't buy them anymore
The flip flops let your feet move more freely and they don't throw your body out of alignment so it's easier to maintain correct posture, which is key to get rid of back ache
i think there’s probably a reason we see an orthopedist for foot pain and not an engineer though
First, hes a physical therapist, number 2, orthopedics only help injuries or when an arch needs to bee formed, eventually it will weaken the foot muscles
I think there's a reason only people who have needed an ortho are disagreeing with him. The rest of us don't have this pain my friend. Because we have stronger feet.
@@kylab2197 why permanently fix the problem when I can make a boatload of money convincing you it's unfixable
Thank you. I work at a podiatrist's office, and this is so wrong. I mean, yes, have a large toe box is good 👍 but everything else 😆
@@CaitlinsKk you know he could get into a lot of trouble by giving these half assed explanations
As a podiatrist i agree with the support part and diffences in arch height. Pretty neat stuff. But when i make orthotics i correct the foot from the subtalair joint by supinating or pronating the calcaneus. The arch follows by itself and i let nature take its course.
Where can someone get orthotics like this? I’ve used all the “super feet” brand orthotics but I still end up with really bad ankle pain in my right ankle after a weekend of doubles serving tables
@@gadnuk7159 Custom orthotics can be ordered from pedorthists, chiropodists or podiatrists
The guy in the video is the farthest from an expert you can get.
He's a foot fetishist who's pushing his belief that feet should look like those of a monkey.
most underrated comment
Yeah this is exactly what my Podiatrist did. I have flat feet (14° arches) due to hypermobility at my joints. The orthotics don't raise the arch like in the video, they supinate my feet by supporting and adjusting the angle of my calcaneus (heel). Having support underneath the arches just feels like I'm walking on a golf ball. OP misses that this is not what orthotics are designed to do for fllat feet!
As a professional running coach: that type or arch support is only useful for injuries, and can even LEAD to injuries if overused. Great video.
Well, it seems like you dont know shit about this thing bud
It’s crazy how many comments exist saying that the info here is straight up wrong. He’s simply talking about the optimal way to support your foot arch. A lot of you are focusing on personal anecdotes about how an orthotic alleviated your foot pain, which is a concept that is not in any way being opposed by this video. For those of you saying that the bridge example is nonsense, as a biomechanics graduate student, that’s how I learned about the load-bearing properties of the foot arch as well (btw, biomechanics = biology + classical physics). If you want your foot arch to increase the load-bearing capacity of your foot, then listen to what this video says. If your feet are in too much pain to do so, then obviously this video isn’t for you and you need a quicker solution like an orthotic
Maybe I’m wrong but he’s kinda miss representing what insoles with arch support can do. I can only approach this with my knowledge as a runner, but arch support or basically a cushion which spreads out the pressure when running on cement is extremely helpful for reducing impact. If the arch is fit to your foot, it won’t stop your foot from compressing the fabric and doesn’t weaken your arches. Using the bridge example a larger toe box simple allows your toes to redistribute force better so there’s less pressure. A cushion like an insole can do the exact same thing.
Then about building arch strength, if my feet, shins, etc are hurting and are still being stretched before and after my runs, then it’s building strength. The notion that arch supports weaken your foot kinda seems absurd to me.
Yeaaaa I wore flat shoes with impression foam while I had to walk 10K steps a day on concrete. Immense foot pain to the point it was debilitating. I had to quit my job. Got some custom orthotics and now I can actually do productive PT whereas previously I could only focus on pain management.
Listen to orthopedic specialists, not this clown on the internet.
Where in this video did he recommend thick-soled shoes? That’s literally the opposite of a barefoot style shoe
but he didnt recommend flat shoes with thick foam, thats the exact opposite of his recommendation
question. how do you walk? there's a different way your supposed to walk of you have flat shoes compared to shoes with an arch.
@@Bigkahkistan sorry but you’re wrong. He only states “widest at the toes and completely flat.” He says nothing on thick soles or memory foam. Watch it again if you think you’re correct.
@@pearlywhites3025 sorry but you’re wrong. He only states “widest at the toes and completely flat.” He says nothing on thick soles or memory foam. Watch it again if you think you’re correct.
Yes as someone with wide flat feet if I had taken your advice, oh wait I was wearing wide flat soled shoes at the time, I had severe foot and ankle pain. Having a stiff soled shoe and then orthotics years later was the only thing that kept me from needing surgery.
that is what is trying to prevent. "wide" shoes are still too narrow for wide feet
I have wide feet too
@@jenniferhouse1939 you realize there is multiple widths of wide as well? Just like there is a length size there are multiple "wide" sizes.
His advice prevents nothing and will cause proble.s. The foot is a dynamic structure that moves unlike a bridge. You need proper support and fit. Walmart and Payless ain't got that.
@@brandonbrown3600 obviously you didn't read or pay attention. Our biggest problem w shoes starts at infancy and toddler ages because of using the incorrect shoes. We would have half the problems we do if our shoes were correctly made. There are some ppl who are too far gone and shoe change will do nothing and there are some who genetics and accidents also play a role but for a majority it is because our shoes are too narrow at the top half. Our feet are meant to spread out and widen as we stand and as we get older. And our terrain also play a role in that. Ppl in grasslands wouldn't have as wide and muscular feet as someone who live in the rainforest or mountains (all this based on if we lived barefoot). Our shoes prevent us from building proper muscle and tendon structure in our feet. Are there better designs coming, yes, is it going to solve everything, no. One because it's not widely known or accepted nor is it actually walking barefoot but it's better than what we have had. Will there be exceptions, yes, but over all this is most of worlds issue. Our shoe design has been more for fashion and less for protection, the design has been crappy for years.
Yours truly,
Someone who hates to be barefoot but has had a lot of foot issues and spends most days standing and walking
Well you are doing it wrong, as per this random video I saw on the internet.
@@jenniferhouse1939 hm that's interesting, I'd like to look into that. I agree that many shoes are horribly made support-wise, and hate shilling out $130 every two years to prevent God awful knee and hip pain. Actually rolled(sprained) my ankle running in a pair off $10 Walmart sneakers. Those things were a death trap. I'm curious about what you're saying with how shoes effect us from long term wear during development, but I'd imagine part of it is evolution over time like how we need our wisdom teeth removed or how some people simply have predispositions to bunions.
I work retail, having orthopedic insoles is better than wearing a flat shoe for me. I get less fatigue on my feet and my lower back
Maybe for now, but I truly believe that minimalist shoes with a slight pad on the heel is best for human bodies. I use to have constant knee pain and switched to water shoes where I cut the front of the sole out and I feel great now.
@@murkethik4589 knee pain can come from alot of things such as lack of exercise/obesity, which weightlifting/conditioning excercise can help.
@@Pidgeys what do you work as? what is your activity levels? and what is your experience with flat shoes and orthopedic insoles? You do realize that you can work on your muscle + having support at the same time to maximize comfort you know? its called a multi-tier solution.
I have very high arches and worked as a custodian for about 6 months where i was on my feet my entire 8 hour shift, 5 days a week. Once I switched from regular athletic sneakers to 'barefoot' shoes with a wide toe box and no cushy support roughly 2 months in, my feet hurt about the same but the rest of my body ached FAR less after about a week or two of adjustment. However, that's a lot different from my retail experience where I wasnt using my feet actively and had to stand in place a majority of the time with a bit of casual walking here and there....
I'm sure the condition of the rest of your body makes a difference too. But for me it was a game changer. Honestly I think the wide toe box and light, flexible material of the shoe was more important than the lack of support since it allowed my foot and toes to actually flex and work instead of being constricted against each other. I'm a very wobbly person who loses my balance and rolls my ankles easy, but in those shoes that was way less of a problem. If you can find a flexible, lightweight, wide toed shoe that still has arch support I'd recommend trying it out. It took a couple weeks for me to notice a difference because I was walking slightly differently and had to adjust, but once I did it was awesome
Ive heard it be described as 'you wouldn't do push-ups on a soft surface like a bed just because it's cushier and more comfortable' which makes sense with building strength, but if you aren't doing something that WOULD actively build strength, it makes sense to wear something cushy and comfy. Just depends on what you're doing and what your needs are
Wearing arch support all day is like wearing a back brace or knee sleeve all day… it will end up making you weaker when not wearing it. Not solving the problem
That is not about correcting the foot, is about getting your posture better because of instability caused by the foot.
Yeah I'm taking this one with a grain of salt. I was born with inverted arches (my navicular was deformed in both feet) and they had me in orthotics for years. It was explained to me as not being about strengthening the arch it's about trying to get everything to sit and align correctly in your legs, hips, and lower back
Lol lots a people debunking this so I’ll throw a story in too.
In middle school I used to come home with such bad foot pain it would radiate up my leg for HOURS. Like when I would finally lay down to go to bed I was just in pain and it was a large factor in my insomnia. When I told my parents, my mom (who used to have high arches that COLLAPSED because she never wore proper footwear growing up and in her young adulthood) immediately got me a set of orthotics.
It was night and fucking day. My feet still give me trouble from time to time if I’m standing in one place for too long, and if I try to go out without my orthotics it’s a nightmare, but for the most part I’m foot pain free.
On a side note I think it’s hilarious that you’re trying to apply logical engineering to the human body when it’s basically the biggest middle finger to logistical engineering XD Like evolution did us dirty in so many ways lol
when in middle school, what kind of shoes did you use? Also, of course if you never give time for your feet and calves to strengthen when you remove the orthoics it's gonna hurt/be uncomfortable. That's the whole point of transitioning to barefoot shoes
@@marturomano there is a difference between uncomfortable and so much pain you cant walk more than 30 mins at a time
@@marturomanoI wore shoes he recommended as a kid, still ended up in terrible pain and needing orthotics later in life because of daily pain caused by feet and knees issues that need me to have very good arch support.
I imagine if you've had arches that have collapsed because you've neglected your feet for years in footwear that are too narrow then yes it would help you a lot, for people with healthy feet, buying some wide toe shoes should be all you need to keep healthy feet.
You literally proved his point though, going out without your special shoes is a nightmare because they weakened your arch further. You are reliant on a special type of shoe instead of having rehabilitated your feet.
No matter how the video started it always ends with the "Wear barefoot/wide shoes"
So the caveman got it right.
Which definitely would work for me.
@@scifi_shop cave men also had a life expectancy of about 30 years
@@AkhmenHotep were you there
@@AkhmenHotep ah haha yeah everything our ancestors figured out is moot because they hadnt discovered antibiotics so true youre such an intellectual
It was actually intended to help give ppl that curve in the center that were originally flat footed. I know bc I was flat footed in my teens and wore the custom inserts for 2 years before I'm now left with the permanent arche that should be there and have way less back problems.
I was born flat footed and those curves in the shoes hurt a lot. I can’t feel my foot after a while
@@ImprovingPerson I was starting to get back problems from being flat foot + being very active in sports. Once I started wearing my custome inserts which fit in any shoe bc they don't go all the way to ur toes, it took days to start feeling improvement and after a few years of wearing them I noticed I permanently had the arche in my foot and didn't need the inserts. It's been over 14 years since wearing the inserts and I still am no longer flat footed. I personally recommend if u have flat feet pain issues but I have heard it can eventually curve ur spine being flat footed
Ive gone through 3 pairs of orthotics in my life and I'm waiting on my fourth. At best I have a year or two without pain after my old (soft) orthotics wear down.
My podiatrist has been wearing his hard orthotics for 3 decades, they work perfectly for him, so I ordered the same type for my 4th pair.
Not all feet retain an arch, my feet are so elastic that on soft surfaces my arch actually pronates/inverts and this is something I'll have to deal with as long as I'm living
@@zachm241 wait only three? how often do you get new ones? i get new ones every year
@@F-aber When you're still growing, you should be getting new orthotics because your feet are still changing.
As a fully grown adult, you can get permanent orthotics. If your orthotics have a padding on top, that will wear away; but some people choose solid orthotics that don't wear down the same.
Even with insurance, orthotics are expensive in the US. I had 4 custom fitted pairs and a handful of store-bought orthotics (nowhere close to as effective).
My custom-fitted orthotics don't have any padding. They're definitely something that takes getting used to; but they last until my feet change (which shouldn't happen anymore as an adult).
High arches need this, I have very high arches. Without something under the arch it’s just floating, and the pressure of your body makes your ankles buckle, without that support in the middle I would be walking on my ankles instead of my feet. The only part of my feet that touch the ground are my heels and toes and it’s extremely painful, I have to be careful when I walk or else my feet will give out and I’ll fall. Ever since I got orthotics I can walk actually on my feet, my ankles are stronger and more supported and I can actually walk.
There is no one answer for every foot. What works for one is different from another. Find what works for you and go for it.
I spent 7 years in the British army and had CONSTANT foot problems. Constantly going for runs and receiving zero information about running form and foot strength.
Ended up getting orthotics made for me to prop up my arches.
Now I’m in civilian land and started barefoot running and foot strengthening exercises. All that pain has gone and I can’t believe how many years it took to get here.
I have orthotics that are more like that - the support is mostly at the ends. My feet (and the rest of my body…) are hypermobile, and I have no arch (my footprints curve out lol). I still need some support in the middle because the tendons that hold up your arches are basically non-functional in my feet. Good times
Definitely important for people to recognize, some of us still need orthotics. I too got hyper mobility issues. I have crazy hard orthotics but that's the only thing that solved it, and solved it 90% of the issue.
Orthotics can be a long term solution, but should also be combined with exercise to strengthen the feet.
And they'll continue to be non-functional so long as they're tiny and never activating because you "support" them.
I have med-high arches and experienced crazy foot pain in my earlier adult life. I wore basic memory foal or gel insoles that came with whatever show I happened to be wearing through.
I started messing around with general Dr. Scholls arch support insoles which helped mitigate some of the pain, but the real help was prescription orthotics. Getting the right shape to rest your foot on really does help (as well as a good callous stone).
Yeah and keep resting all day
@@uo9521
What r u even talking about? Shut your mouth
Pumice stones shred your skin and can hold bacteria. Probably should use a foot file instead.
And as someone who stands for 40 hours a week and sits by my computer the rest of the time, rest does not help because once you load them up the pain comes back. I use a massage gun and it gets the blood flowing and simulates 'walking around' imo and it's been a lot better than simply resting on off days
Both of those stone problems are passively solved in the shower
@@charlesj.easleyii7642 quick google search for 'are pumice stones sanitary' leads to webmd saying they're breeding grounds for bacteria and should be replaced once a month
It’s important to note that even if the arch itself is healthy in an over-pronated position, that severe pronatory motion can negatively impact the ankle, knee, hip, etc and cause pain. So building up the arch is sometimes needed to help align the lower extremities and hold everything more neutral.
yes! I have falling arches/nearly flat feet and not wearing my orthotics causes knee and hip pain. they actually had me stand on one foot in physical therapy to work on balance and arch strength to correct it, and while it's good to work on arch strength, it should NOT to replace orthotics.
@@dessertcactus Do you have scrunched toes from shoes? Because this guy has also said that it makes flat feet and caving worse when you're big toe doesn't splay out how it would if it weren't for narrow shoes.
@@ninjycoon surprisingly no, my shoes fit just fine. If they're too wide it actually hurts my feet and causes my calves to tighten. But like, a good running shoe puts less pressure on my knees and helps me walk. Arch support too. Without it my knees turn in and it really sucks
This guy for the most part does very good work. The issue is with musculoskeletal care is everything works and everything doesn’t according to the research. Therefore a one size fits all advice is not productive. He has great points in the sense that many people use arch supports when not needed or when they would be more optimal building strength in the foot.
Had many people comment on my big flat feet when i was a kid, according to them i needed to get insoles or special shoes made, i just laughed at them. Spent most of my younger life barefoot on a farm walking everywhere and climbing trees and stuff. I just always looked for shoes that was wide enough to be comfortable without squashing my toes. Still don't have any issues with my feet or balance and posture. Can't say the same about some of those that had "experts" mess with their feet.
“A random guy told me to not use them mom!”
“I have no clue if he’s a doctor!”
And she was right lol
And yet doctors generally sont agree on topics and are responsible for 250K deaths a year, not to mention you can easily verify his points qith research but thats beyond you
@@michaelschemmel1984 dude…. Cool down you internet dweeb. It was a joke😂😂. Go touch grass.
And that’s your fault for not verifying who he is….. he’s a Physical Therapist btw, has helped many Olympic athletes who suffer from flat feet, low back pain, shoulder pain etc.
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For me, a custom fit orthotic just transferred pain from my foot to my knee. Another orthotic then transferred the pain to my hip.
Solving the problem required getting rid of the orthotics and “supportive” shoes entirely and working on building up my foot strength!
Solution is wide shoes with arch support and thin socks. Not tight fit.
yep. this is usually how it goes
Go to a chiropractor! I have flat feet and getting my back readjusted cured my plantar fasciitis
wise words bro
Yes, wide toe box shoes are great. But this guy is not a podiatrist. The only thing that got rid of my debilitating foot pain was custom orthotics from a podiatrist.
Honestly, wide toe box shoes are a scam. I wear narrow shoes daily, and my toes have stayed naturally splayed. Not to mention that I also have ski boots and cycling shoes that are tight as hell.
I have narrow feet and an ankle arthrodesis, so I need heavily cushioned shoes to be comfortable. Because I wear orthotics, I now select shoes which are wide, and I do them up tightly, using a lace lock.
Now, a tight wide shoe provides freedom for my toes to splay as much as they like, and despite the middle of the foot being held strongly, with the heel held down, they don't feel tight, and I never feel uncomfortable.
HOKA ONE ONE FOR LIFE, BABY!
not a long tem solution
I have low, and by that, I mean zero arch, I’ve been doing exactly as you said my whole life and I still can’t walk for even five minutes without being in crazy bad pain, this is why you either talk to a doctor or do your own research, don’t listen to TikTok’s or yt shorts, people
1. Not how most modern orthotics are made, we mainly use a modified scanner not unlike the ones in printers
2. Orthotics with arch support are not designed for active correction of the foots posture, but rather to support it in a passive capacity. Sensomotory insoles are designed to train the foot to correct its own posture through adjusting load on muscle chains to get the body to compensate for rises/dips in tension
3. Low arches can have a detrimental impact on the loading angle of the tibia and in turn the knee, leading to gonarthrosis/permanent cartilage damage.
4. Walking on hard surfaces with minimal padding and a maligned foot can actually worsen the condition it was in as there is still no work being done by the arch supporting muscle groups, or through overloading metatarsals 2-3 in the area of the ball of the foot.
Do ya research people
Oh! How much are the different methods used where you are? Where I work most are scanned, but there is still a significant amount made like this or with plaster casting tape. I do not know how much they are used compared to one another in percent though...
@@iridophorium the photocopier type scanners are the industry standard here, with a few exceptions and rare cases where floral foam (in the case of diabetic specific insoles) or a graphite sheet print are used.
What can we do to activate arch supporting muscles? My 7 year old son has flat feet.😢
thats only appliable for overweight people, most healthy humans do not have any provblems with switching to walking barefoot if thats done in a normal tempo, so no barefoot running at first
@@m.935 talk to a physio, get him doing exercises regularly
The reason we build bridges with arches is because we can’t support it in the middle. If we could, we would support the entire arch.
Thissss, bridges are floating over space, feet are on the ground, it would be like saying an elevated road can withstand more weight that just a normal one
@cansifertharan6611 bridges are on the ground too. The arch of a foot is "floating" like how the arch of a bridge would.
@@youraveragebacon4897 They wouldn’t make a bridge, if it werent to go over something.
@@zoroverse8358 An arched bridge is designed that way because an arch is structurally strong.
You don't build an arch bridge, then put a support pillar in the center underneath the arch would you?
@@GameFuMaster We build arch bridges because we cannot put a support pillar in the middle. For example we build an arch bridge to get over water, then it would cost a lot to put a pillar under. However if we had an option, putting a pillar there would result in a stronger structure. Is it really that hard to understand that concrete is a better support material than open air?
Up until I bought a couple pair of orthotics I was suffering from some very severe back pain, this video is a disservice to those suffering in such discomfort.
Yeah, well since getting orthotics my knees have stopped dislocating when i run and my spine has straightened out. i can also now work 16 hours a day without pain in my ankles, knees, hips, and back
But sure, RUclips guy has a point
hes a doctor and literally this is baked up by science....also your solution is only ashort term solution
Congenital flat feet here. Unfortunately nothing I can do to "fix" it. However, wide toe box shoes with zero drop was the best thing I ever did for my feet. Next was consciously keep my toes pointing forward and walking with good form.
If you are still having issues try looking higher, glutes, quads, hamstring or calfs.... You may have weak muscles affecting your feet. I switched to "barefoot shoes" which caused more problems but then I found out I had glute amnesia... got that fixed....but then I started having foot problems and instantly felt better walking barefoot or the barefoot shoes
I've worn orthotics for years, however my feet have not felt better until I quit the orthotics and was mindful of how I walk and use my feet
it depends on what issues you have, as well as the orthotics. the type of shoes factor in too. it's possible the type you were wearing was a poor fit and caused issues, if you needed them at all, from what you wrote. edit: I totally agree with how you walk playing a role. they actually taught me how to properly walk in physical therapy!
@@dessertcactus yep, how I walk now changed my feet
i agree 100% . I suffered from this for years of using shoes that are not designed for a lot space for your toes. I switched shoes and doing some foot exercise now
What shoes? Looked at Xero shoes but they are hard as stone and feel mega uncomfortable. I need SOME support i feel
Any results?
@@Joshua-uq9zw which shoe were you looking at?
i have had many pairs of xero shoes and sandals and none were hard at all and could all be rolled up easily.
An engineer telling me about how my feet work? Id think that's best left to the people who actually studies it
Not an engineer... And that's a fallacy
@@joualavedra1208It is not an appeal to authority fallacy because the authority being appealed to here is valid. For it to be a logical fallacy you must appeal to an invalid source.
@@NolenGYT ehhhhh weeeeeell, that works if the people talking don't actually know the info themselves and must default on some authority anyways. If someone brought up an argument for example it's nice to refute it itself regardless of authority. Although I realize sometimes that's not possible. But sometimes it's the thing that distinguishes what's actually correct.
He's not an engineer, he's a physical therapist
@@NolenGYTNo thats not at all how that works, an appeal to authority is stating x source is right as they are an authority, there is also the reverse, I forget the name, which is basically saying x ia not an authority and thus wrong
This topic is still highly contested in the academic field and there's no definite answer to flat feet and other related anatomic variations.
What everyone can agree on is that activating your foot's muscles by e.g. barefoot walking is important and that orthotics are a last resort.
Don't treat ppl without symptoms and wear proper shoes as shown in this video
As someone with extremely high arches I completely disagree.
The orthotics for my shoes and the orthotic jandles I have have ON TOP of getting wider fitting shoes has completely changed my life.
Both work together. Full stop.
Too much arc support in my every day shoe, gave me plantar fasciitus.
It went away after I replaced the sole with a flat one. It also helped by walking in vibram five fingers, and by doing so made my foot stronger
I ended up getting orthotics because I have super high arches that werent flexible so I tended to walk on the outsides of my feet. The orthotics acted as that slight give that I needed in order to walk straighter and let my arch slowly start to move better over time.
Me too. I have a high arches foot and I have a very supinated step.
@@YAMAZAK1 I also had really bad supination. Those orthotics helped correct it and strengthen my ankle while I did foot and ankle mobility and flexibility exercises, so now I don’t need them anymore 😊
Wearing arch support orthotics certainly helps my plantar fasciitis.
The best shoes is in a shop, But if you want your feet healthy lasting avoid any shoes.
as a kid and teen i wore my shoes too tight. some pain. now i run in sandals and have loose (very fashionable) boots mainly
Can't wait till flat wide shoes are also. Affordable.
Wrestling shoes.
Don't walk around in wrestling shoes🤣
I order Converse online, about $60 a pair. Unfortunately, they only last about three months. Then again, my $180 orthotics only lasted 3 months as well.
It’s so cool! Weird that it’s in a weightlifting blog and not a running one
Ya when i used to run I had collapsing arches 🤦🏻♀️ due to my ignorance on proper foot wear. Anyways….. I had orthotics properly made that was $500 like 8 years ago that really helped fix my arches
@@mirvuuson I'm saying it could take you 5 seconds to prove him wrong.
Being licensed means nothing. Also a doctor of what? Licensed in what? Orthopedics? Is he licensed in the field he is talking about? Is he a chiropractor? I have a feeling he's a chiropractor....
Anyways I'd go toe to toe with him any day as he doesn't have citations or evidence. Just diagrams and short videos.
I struggle to find studies siding with him, but I can find hundreds against him. Do the research your self.
@@mirvuuson dont need to be a doctor when there are people saying better insoles helped with foot pain. I got some insoles for 20eur in my work boots that support the arch on my foot and all the pain was gone.
This guy talks about feet all the time. I think "squat university" might be a cover for a foot fetish
@@chrisraines1564 and you can also find studies that support what he is saying.
You don’t even have to be an engineer to know that what he’s saying is incorrect.
No it s correct
Do you know roman's arch
@@uo9521 First of all i was talking about his comparison with the bridge, the only reason they don’t have pillars under is because it costs a lot of material and it is hard to do so. But ideally you would just build on solid ground.
@@zoroverse8358 wtf if you have solid ground you don t need a bridge
@@zoroverse8358 second: an arch dtribuites better the forces than a flat surface
I need orthotics in order to walk without pain, but this guy said that isn’t how it works so my orthotics must be a placebo. :)
I’m so happy that the comments were more helpful than this video, always listen to the doctor over some random person online.
the commensta rent helpful at all...also you said listen to the doctor...lol
He’s literally a physical therapist. Also, it’s possible for doctors to have biases and flaws just as it is any professional, and orthotics are a holdover from a past, misguided understanding of foot health. Not all doctors keep up with the latest research, and so some end up promoting solutions that don’t actually work.
Orthotics are a scam, because they symptom treat instead of healing the root cause problem.
Symptom treating is still appropriate when the root cause cannot be addressed, but the thing is, most people’s foot pains can be addressed at the cause because it is usually caused by our bad shoes. Most shoes are narrow and have a raised heel because of fashion. This created most of the foot problems people suffer from. Allowing the foot to go back to its natural state lets it heal, though the healing process can be painful. Once healed however, you can proceed with a pain-free life.
My orthopedist has me supporting my heel and discouraged any arch support. I have flexible flat feet. The heel support allows my foot to rotate in to the proper position by keeping my heel steady. This also helped with plantar fasciitis.
ah yes the best way to help our pain is to train my foot to handle more pain till I just can't keep working anymore but my feet won't hurt
Exactly! Only problem is, ya can't be a pussy.
Go read a paper bro ...
@@joualavedra1208no this is true. Its called being disabled. Some of us need help with feet support.
Just because some random guy on RUclips said no dosent mean that people don't need help.
@@JesusChrist-sm4bm"our" meaning disabled people? I guess
but arc support is really just bad for normal feet, and og comment is just wrong, nobody said nothing about the feet not working
@@joualavedra1208 why would someone with normal feet get arch support, you know they don't just give out orthotics on the streets to everyone right? if a trained professional advised it its needed usually
An orthotic solved my fasciitis and in 1 minute I was able to walk. So, I don't think your are right tbh
I can appreciate his enthusiasm but as someone with extremely flat feet, high arch orthotics are the ONLY thing that helps my feet.
He’s refuting his own conclusion is the same short. If you have fallen arches then you’re walking on a “flat bridge” that would require center support. We don’t use insole like that if your feet are normal….
I love the content and I'm a student of orthoprosthetics, so I have a minimum of knowledge on the subject, but I can't help but comment that the way the mold was taken is wrong, the hallux should have been raised to create a larger arch, and this it is not something that should be used on all people and will only allow an effective (not equal) distribution of force throughout the foot.
Yeah no this isn't true at least for me i have flat feet and can only walk without pain whenever i wear in-built arch support shoes
I have flat feet, and when i’m not in a shoe that supports specifically the arch, i feel like i have a knife running across my foot.
I had this too, the pain was intense, especially with sports.
Started wearing barefoot shoes nearly 2 years ago though and my feet have strengthened intensely.
I started out by using the shoes 1-2 hours a day and now I can do hikes / long walks on them. I can basicly walk in them all day now without any pain.
Because you have weak feet.
Fun fact, though some flat feet are genetic: most flat feet are actually collapsed arches caused by excessive wearing of I’ll suited foot wear as a child. Bare foot inside and something akin to
Sandals outside is best practice
then build your arch so that you don't have to rely on arch support. I used to have flat feet, but I fixed them. no orthopaedics necessary
Because you support it your arch is lazy now and that's why it hurts.
Thanks my kids both have flat feet from their dad and finding orthotics and shoes for them has been a mystery/hassle. Hopefully this is the solution they finally needed.
They could try out barefoot walking or barefoot shoes. But don't swap and be done with it. They can either wear them only for short durations and gradually increase the time, or gradually swap to shoes with less and less support and cushioning.
Some pain can be normal due to muscles being built, but if you're overdoing it it can lead to injuries.
In addition to that foot exercises are important and potentially wearing toe spreaders. But those can usually not be worn for a very long time. At least at first.
Orthotics in shoes with a wide toebox can also help, but wearing _only_ orthotics will weaken the feet. So this is for some shaping, but nothing which should be worn all the time.
If you got a good orthopedist talk to them. Good in a sense that they explain why the measure is taken and what the effects are. If they just prescribe orthotics without much explanation they are not a good choice. Orthotics are a tool for treating feet and while utilizing them correctly _can_ help, using them incorrectly, for example by _just_ wearing orthotics and doing nothing else, they can cause problems. Not just in the feet, but also the back.
@@ThePandafriend Thanks, may GOD bless you. Thanks for the insight. My 10 year old daughter refused to wear her orthotics because it makes her shoes fit too tight and uncomfortable so she wears her sneakers sometimes, but loves to wear her crocs mainly because of the comfort of the wide space. She occasionally complains of foot pain when walking for long periods of time.
My 15 year old son has been wearing his orthotics for two years and still struggles with pain on certain days when doing lots of running for soccer practice to the point where it shoots pain from the foot up to half his leg(he doesn't want to tell the coach because he doesn't want to get kicked off the team) so he just misses the next practice day to give his foot/leg rest and time to heal. Thank GOD so far for his soccer games his foot/leg heal on time for those days. I'll try to get my kids to work on their foot exercises to strengthen their feet. Also did more research this year and came across what you advised about the orthotics and been wondering if my son should continue wearing them or not as we don't know if their making it worse instead of helping. Also he refused to wear orthotic friendly shoes because he said their ugly and not in style.
Ummm...no, you are not supposed to push the foot down like that. The client stands on the pad, supporting their own weight, showing their needed support area. Whoever did this and pushed the foot down, is an idiot.
yeah but even that doesnt chnage the point
Wrong! It is suppose to be a sitting rested position. The ignorance is unreal
@@jasonmorgan27 considering I have been getting arch supports and leg braces since birth, pretty sure I know what I am talking about.
@@marvin2678 arch support is not a lie, if not for arch supports and leg braces, I would still be in a wheelchair. But hey, YT told you so right? Must be true. Not the scientific evidence behind it or the countless evidence supporting it.
@@ASJMusher Then I guess you are right despite every doctor out there that does this while sitting down for the reason I mentioned. In other news, men can be woman.
*I guarantee most of this is caused by narrow shoes!* I had flat feet. I stopped wearing special inserts and started wearing wide flat shoes (vans) and my arch started appearing back with a year.
lol i couldnt do that, i can barely walk longer than 15 mins barefoot or in unsupported shoes until my feet start hurting, another 15 in and they hurt enough that i cant walk anymore
@@F-aber it takes time to strengthen muscles in your body to create stability, it's not going to happen overnight. Going from Birkenstocks to a 4mm sole would make anyone's feet hurt... it's like going from a cast to doing a pushup. If you don't want to put in the work, it's not for you
@@F-aber if you've got existing feet problems and have been wearing bad shoes your whole life then it could take potentially years to fully rehabilitate them. Don't push yourself or you might injure them and make it worse, just slowly progress.
@@NihongoWakannai I have had these feet problems since I was born, sometimes you have flat feet not because you wore tight shoes for too long but because you were born with them.
It's crazy cuz I've been wearing crocs or going barefoot for the past two years and my feet are still as flat as they've ever been lol
I swear one day I'll be tying my shoes and he just comes up and says "find you a a shoe that's wide from the toes and has good arch support"
I dont know if this is a thing or not, but years ago i came up with a trick that helped me out.. What i did was train myself to land toe first instead of heel first with my steps. By impacting the toes and ball of the foot first, my feet now act almost like a natural spring board, reducing impact on the heel immensely, and giving me a much lighter and silent step. It also helps with running, giving me a quite literal "spring in my step" allowing me to cover more ground per stride
That's pretty much how nature intended us to walk (ball of the foot first). If you go for a walk or run out outside barefoot you'll naturally begin stepping like that. People only walk heel first because of the excess padding in modern shoes. No doubt your posterior chain has strengthened as a result of your transition. Check out the youtube channel Grown and Healthy.
Tell that to tendinitis. Your feet are in tension, not compression.
From an engineering standpoint, the bridge is connected at the ends to two other structural platforms and is not the same as a human foot.
I don‘t know about the medicine, but the physics is wrong here. An arch bridge usually transfers load into the anchors which need to withstand horizontal forces. So to support your arch in the foot you would need to wear very short shoes, which press your toes in the direction of your heel. Alternative would be something very sticky, to have a high friction content.
Your foot actually has enough friction
Nice, gotta love it when an engineer tell doctors what’s right or wrong based on a bridge.
Imagine a doctor telling you how to build a bridge based off of human biology.
Keep your engineering knowledge and stay away from medicine because they do not correlate
you can't compare a foot to a bridge. It is easier on you joints when your foot is fully supported and in the right plane. Mine are carbon fibre and layers of different foam. My knees haven't hurt like they did before I started wearing them.
Yes, now good luck wearing them for life
You're wrong n some points! Im very flexible but weak joints by genetics. Without arches very hih and strong to hold my bone in my arch up,the bones in my arch flex downward with my bones rubbing and pressing on the GROUND! BONE ON GROUND! Worst pain EVER! I though i broke my foot!
High arches train and exercise your muscles and tendons to hold that bone UP AND KEEP IN LINE WITH THE OTHER BONES!
Getting a GOID FEET high arch exercised the muscles in my ENTIRE FOOT,ANKLE, CALVES, TIBIA AND FIBULA!
Taking them off felt like i had CLIMBED MOUNTAINS of SAND up and down. But it was only CHANGING THE POSITIONING OF BONES!
After i took them out,i had PERFECT arches and no pain or tightness for 90days! But had to return using them to WORK muscles in my feet.
Strength training as you know it!
Im completely flat footed and ankles cave inward. I walked like a duck at birth so have probs still today because my mom did nothing.
Surprisingly my foot probs were from my LOWER BACK BEING WEAK AND HURTING AT 2YRS OLD TO WHERE I COULDN'T EVEN WALK NORMALLY FROM THE PAIN!
I remember as a baby sleeping on my stomach with my knees tucked ul under me to stretch out my lower back!
So the question is: HOW DO YOU FIX SOMETHING AT BIRTH AS A 2YR OLD TO FIX AS AN ADULT LATER IN LIFE? WHAT CAN PARENTS DO FIR A 2YR OLD TO PREVENT THIS?
Pretty sure that if you put a wall under a bridge it’s going to add more support than making the ends stronger lol
This is utter bs though, we support a bridge by the end because we want passage below it, the best way to stabilize a surface on a bridge if we don't care about trafik underneath is by making it not a bridge.
This pseudo-engineering bs doesn't do you any good
Why use language like that to emphasize what you want to say? It’s not a perfect analogy, but it does prove the point well. If you were to support any muscle or body part all day long, it would lose its strength or functionality and there’s enough science around for you to be read to prove that point #useitorloseit
@@rondegoey then use that science, this engineering argument doesn't hold water, if you don't need a bridge to be traveled under you would make it not a bridge any day of the week, and we don't need our arches traveled under. Half worked analogies that kinda almost sound useful if you don't think too much about them don't help your actual arguments at all.
TLDR: listen to your foot doctors not some random internet engineer
As someone who grew up dancing, none of my shoes had arch support and I was actually barefoot most of the time - It absolutely ruined my feet and my lower back - the only way I can comfortably walk or stand for long periods is high arch orthotics - I even wear them in my house shoes now because if I don’t I have to sit every 5-10 mins to relieve the pain.
Why do you keep using this stupid bridge analogy? It’s incorrect. The weight that is supported by your foot is distributed through the feet into the arch. This is entirely different from a bridge, arched or not, where the force is placed on top of the arch and is distributed down into the feet. The physics is vastly different.
4th grade i was having bad knee and hip pain, i had flat feet. doctor recommended orthotics, a trip to the orthopedic doctor and the pain stopped when i used the insoles they gave me. Now as an adult i just use medium arch support and all is fine. What he says about the narrow shoes is true to a degree, but im still going to listen to a doctor about human body health over a structural engineer. You can support your arch with orthotics and wear shoes with a wider toe box, id say that would be optimal for foot health.
Yep, my orthotics are prescribed by an orthopedist and done by a podiatrist, not an engineer because they aren't bridges, they are a complex mix of different structures that tend to move and shift around.
I agree with the wider toe box but if I used bare foot shoes, with a soft sole and without insoles I'd need a cane within a week.
I'm hypermobile so my feet pancake when standing but have very high arches when not weight bearing, so my insoles have high support and are very rigid in the front (i tend to pivot extremely along the fingers and especially the big toe). They are also high on both sides so I don't over and underpronate based on the surface I'm standing on. Foot flexibility is so bad physiotherapist took me off the curved balance ball and moved me exclusively to a stiff straight board. I wasn't using the ankles to balance, I tended to conform to the curvature of the ball for more grip.
Used to wake up in agony every day (plantar fascitis, I left it untreated too long and that's how I had a heel stress fractures on one side and a metatarsal one on the others, at once), limping around, sprained ankles and almost fucked up a knee. Ortho banned me from wearing floppy soled shoes and prescribed insoles.
Even without orthotics, having a stiff sole helps a ton
Pain disappeared in a week, weight distribution even without insoles is night and day.
The bridge is a arch because there’s water in the way, if there wasn’t we would build a road and support it all, this is dumb
That'sssss why I hate sneakers. I wear converse because they're the most comfortable for me. Anything with an arch always bothers me and I always get shoes bigger than what I need because I have wide feet and need my toes to be able to breathe lmao
This is only true when the material properties of the arch are homogenous. No matter how much support you give to the ends of the arch, if your keystone is made of loose sand, you're going to have a failed arch.
You re not made of sand, maybe of fat
Walk barefoot (or with minimalist shoes) over uneven terrain. This allows the foot to move and function in its natural manner and will develop muscles. The muscles give all the support you need.
As someone with flat ass feet who used orthotics for the past 4 years I have seen noticeable difference and it has let me use more shoes etc. helpful but obvs not the best
Biology and enginering not the same man (im prosthesis and orthosis student btw)
I've always had fat feet so I always wore wider shoes. I think this is why my feet aren't as tight. I always try and compare to see if I have bad feet lol
This is how cheap orthotics are made, not the kind which actually help your feet, I've had both and this kind are garbage, the good ones are made with your foot fully relaxed and plaster is used. I grew up barefoot or wearing shoes that gave my feet all the room they wanted and now I have debilitating bunions.
Trust me, if I didn't need to spend $600 a year on 2 pairs of shoes, I wouldn't. But when you're literally crawling to the bathroom because you can't get up and walk, then you can come talk to me about getting rid of arch support.
I have hyper-mobility in my ankles and use insoles to stop my feet turning in and causing me leg pain and in the future arthritis. They’ve been a huge help with my legs and also my confidence, as my walking always embarrassed me and it was mentally and physically draining to make my feet stay normal and not turn in. But hey, if you say they don’t work…
yep they dont work, youre an exception and even for you it doesnt solve the issue but hides it
Had orthodics for 3 years, fixed everything, from pain to stability. Didn't wear any goofy ass shoes either. Different people need different treatment
I have both high arches and probably the most flexible feet you would ever encounter (I have heds). I need support for the whole lot. Propping up the middle is just as important
Flexibility is not the same as strength
@@AutoMotivate my body is still made of bones and muscles. I just happen to be a lot stretchier. I need rigid, hard supports that don’t have any give to support my arches.
If you don’t know what hEDS is don’t bother commenting
I switched to flat shoes some years ago and my feet feel so much better in general.
Do you realise apart from a debatable resemblance there's not much similarity in the two? I didn't even knew what was arch support. Ever since I was a kid I had that pain in my foot. My natural reaction was to put something inside my school shoes that would push that arch up a bit. I'm not a civil engineer but, it always worked for me so hard to convince me there.
Edit: I do agree that some people can have a flat foot and be totally comfortable with it. In fact, I've met people with flat foot who can lift weights, and also just do anything with greater stability.
Edit 2: I think he's right. Flat foot with toes spaced apart feels better than any arch support. I guess our shoes damaged our foot 😅
The insole also helps flat footer walk on side thus reducing the vagul deformity that can become common in flat foot that damages the knees.
This would be true if my feet were bridges. Don't spread lies. Flat feet are not 'healthy'. It can hurt.
Assuming your analogy is accurate, arch support would actually put *more* stress on your feet.
They do. The arch "support" inhibit the natural motion and function of arches
@@rollinOnCodethe thing is, his analogy is wrong. Maybe for someone with perfect tendons and proportions, but for those who have irregular arches they help. I can't wear boots for extended periods without arches, but with them I can all day. He is wrong on this
I'd love to hear foot doc Dana's take on this, it's not I don't believe you I jusy like to have multiple sources.
??? Maybe research it yourself rather than blindly trust
I believe he is referencing about building the strength of your arch. Whereas orthotic relieve stress on the arch which is helpful for pain relief but might not be as strengthening for the muscles in the foot
I am not saying I know anything. Just what I’ve taken away from comments and the video
You can also exercise your various foot muscles
I have a low arch and shoes with high arch support hurt my feet so much
Yeah. I got issued the exact wrong shoes in training and had to wear them for 3 weeks before we went to boots. My feet and shins would immediately get sore while running. It felt so much better rolling around in the sand and getting smoked with boots vs those god awful shoes. I remember one time I took them off and the way the bottom of my feet contacted the floor was different. It's like when you wear a retainer or braces and your teeth touch differently.
I had years of foot pain that was eliminated after a few months of wearing orthotics. So I don't think this guy knows what he is talking about.
My foot pain didn't go away till I ditched my arch supports and strengthened my feet.
And this is why engineers stick to bridges and not foot advice…
Unfortunately this isn’t the same for everyone. I myself was born with club feet, I have almost no arch support so I have to have inserts made to support the arch, I’ve tried Vans as a dress code before and couldn’t last a day, I have to wear wide fit shoes with inserts to function in the modern day having an insert can help the structure of your arch buildup muscle and stay up!
Hey bestie our feet aren’t bridges and our bodies aren’t machines we don’t need an “engineering standpoint” we need a specialist in ya know feet
While I agree with your take that foot posture doesn’t matter as much as we it does, the CPGs still state that arch support is a grade A treatment for plantar pain. Do you have any research you could share?
Plantar fascia Tis is decay and death and atrophy of the areas tissues not inflammation, so yeah not using something that’s atrophied away would probably help with pain but it won’t help the root cause of the pain
@@theprodigalson4003 yeah. I’m just looking for research to support the stance that arch support isn’t helpful, as it goes against current evidence.
Not saying it’s wrong, though.
Treats pain (the symptoms), but not the cause, which is weak arch muscles from narrow shoes with elevated soles. It only perpetuates the weakness like when wearing a cast on your leg and using crutches facilitates atrophy due to lack of activation. Crutches and casts are only temporary, but arch support gives your foot an indefinite need for it due to the weakness it causes.
This article lists some research: squatuniversity.com/2022/03/12/should-you-wear-arch-support-the-truth-behind-orthotics/
@@SquatUniversity Please put your sources in the video description or a pinned comment next time. Both critics and people who believe you can stand to read more about the topic.