Good Lord, barely surviving an attack by a serial killer, only to be attacked again by a copycat killer. This is the stuff that nightmares are made of.
What's really crazy about this episode is that BTK was seemingly a long-cold case when it aired...yet the authorities were in the early stages of the investigation that nailed him.
Maybe Janette, having managed to escape, had collaborated with the police who had arrested the killer who eventually had died, maybe committed suicide in prison (or before being arrested) or sentenced to death. It's likely, isn't it? What do you think?
@@giosy0072 I’m sure she told them what she could, but it’s more likely that he was arrested for another crime or even died in a traffic accident, or like BTK was able to make himself stop. That’s super rare but it happens. They even caught another serial killer from the 70s via a DNA website. So maybe it happens more than we think.
@invisible.fatman I think you misread the point. RDK was based off of the BTK events. Most Law & Order episodes are based on things that happened, and what could come of them. This episode came out before BTK, what this is in reference of, was caught: "Based off the widely known case of serial killer BTK (Dennis Rader), which stood for "Bind, Torture, Kill." Ironically, the real BTK was captured in February 2005 - four months after this episode aired.", a quote from imdb.
This episode got everything right. One of the best things about SVU was so many episodes were never just simple black and white scenarios. The killer is played brilliantly, and hes awful in every way. But at the end when you see how he was tortured as a child you almost find a hint of sympathy for him. Really great episode.
Ida was a narcissistic bully and just as petulant as her son, seeing him as a fashion accessory one moment, but then if Humphrey didn't do as he was told he became an unwanted annoyance to her. Never for a single moment, did she see him as a human being, let alone as her son.
It's the same that happens in virtually all cases of serialkillers & schoolshooters. There's a reason they are like that. In this case a violent & abusive parent - that never gave him a chance in life.
@@YungN3gr0 think they meant hilarious because he’s still a heartless murderer. His past is an explanation, but it’s not an excuse, so most people aren’t gonna feel bad for him getting bullied by his mother right now. She’s an awful heinous person too, and it makes you feel for him as a kid, but it doesn’t mean people are gonna feel bad for him as a grown serial killer.
Always loved how Huang played with the killer's psychology in the interrogation. He knows that he loves and craves the attention, so he plays into it by feeding him the idea that a whole team is investigating him, only to immediately poison it with the line about his impotence; they're not impressed, they think he's a joke. Huang then reels him back in by putting that positive attention on himself, showing that if the RDK copycat wants the validation, he's gotta go through him. And Huang uses this pseudo-trust to further destabilize him by digging into his past with his mother, touching the nerve raw. In just under a minute, the killer's ego is completely deflated, and the scene where's he directly confronted by his mother, the source of his trauma, is just the cherry on top. The SVU reduced this schmuck from a sadistic killer to a sniveling child; probably violating some of his rights with the closet torture, but hey, it's TV.
@MariAnimates Here’s a scenario to picture: (The real RDK watches far away through binoculars as they rescue Jennette) -RDK: Sloppy faker… -Little Boy: Hey grandpa, what’cha lookin at? -RDK: Oh, nothing important Sonny, come on, let’s go get those ice cream cones grandpa promised! -Little Boy: Okay!
I know it's a show, and I know the character is a murderer, but christ the scene of them locking him in a pitch black closet really perturbs me. I guess it's a testament to how good of an actor he is, it's just uncannily similar to how some children (often disabled ones) are treated by their parents or teachers and it's just a bit too real for me
The character also was murdering women, not just women, mothers with sons, all because he didn't have the guts to stand up to his own mother or get therapy. He had an elderly woman locked in a dark refrigerator buried in a trash dump for shits and giggles. I don't feel bad for the loser at all. (The character, of course, the actor did a great job)
@@darkmask5933idk man. Feeling bad and hating a person at the same time is pretty easy. You feel bad for something bad happening to them on the one side and see that they are evil monsters on the other. Not that conflicting since it’s different actions and different moments
It's also concerning that the enforcers of "law and order" are using his phobia to force a confession/punish him. Even i he's a killer, they shouldn't behave like that.
@@patrick_j_lee honestly they probably ruined their chances of conviction with that stunt. they managed to rescue janette, but are they going to be able to rescue the next one he targets?
@@KhepriProductions2022 how much you wanna bet on that. local pd has a whole floor that the cameras just never seem to work. the people from that floor show up to court with their eyes swole shut and looking like they just got a years worth of lip injections.
@@rachelgarber1423u mean she was 16 while he’s I grown man? Idk bout him so I’m just asking cuz u said “he met at 16” meaning when they were both 16 so I think u might’ve misspoke
Doug Hutchison also played a stalker and killer on a CSI: Crime scene Investigation episode "Stalker" S2.E19. In the series finale episode "Immortality" he played a bomber.
One of my favorite episodes. When Stabler threw him in the closet and Olivia knocked out the light. After he told them where Jeanette was he said let me out Stabler said Jeanette first. I love it!
Interestingly, they never actually reveal what happened to the real RDK. No follow up episode about hunting him down, or a discovery in this episode of his actual identity, like him being long dead or something like that. Just… unsolved.
Maybe Janette, having managed to escape, had collaborated with the police who had arrested the killer who eventually had died, maybe committed suicide in prison (or before being arrested) or sentenced to death. It's likely, isn't it? What do you think?
@@cromano6830 oh I think you’re right. The episode I was thinking about was when the killer was copying graphic comics and setting up the crime scene to copycat.
0:40 thats where hes wrong, ive studied serial killers, and some are not afraid to wait years between kills just to make sure its harder to find them, there are murder cases across the globe that are over a decade apart that could be connected and we dont know it
6:20 - 7:25 When I saw this bit with Doug Hutchinson, all I could think about was his Percy Whitmore character from The Green Mile, where he gets so scared by Sam Rockwell's Wild Bill, he pissed himself. 🎵Percy *Wetmore,* Do a little dance, Hear him squishing in his pants!🎵
Doug Hutchison deserves more love. One of the best creature features in X Files and one of the most obnoxious, uncomfortable, unstable villains in drama history in Green Mile. I love him so much.
>Watching L&O >interrogating a serial killer who has a fear of closets and the dark >Detective shoves him into a dark closet to get answers. You know, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm almost certain that this would violate the 8th amendment and anything gained from this "enhanced" interrogation would be thrown out of court as fruit from the poisoned tree.
Only just realised who this guy is i’ve seen this episode a couple of times but never realised till now I thought he looked familiar he stars as Percy wetmore from the green mile
fun, fun, fun, let's play again, for the next feather in my cap, check in the policeman's helmet @1:48 Elliot's comment about the policeman's helmet makes more sense now that I saw this in the background😂😂😂
Liv and Elliot: *intentionally triggers a copycat killer's PTSD in exchange for the location of his victim's locations* Cragen: *enters the scene casually* "Thought you could use this." *hands them the utility closet key*
I wonder then why some others of us who had mothers like that don't turn out to be serial killers. If you can answer that question then you're smarter than I am
Most in that situation don't turn out to be murderers. Everyone reacts differently to trauma and torture. Some people have a switch that can be flicked with the right type or amount of stimulus. And some would turn out that way anyhow, through other stimuli or possibly innately. Bad parenting, as egregious as it can get, may lead to a violent adulthood, but it's not indicative enough to be predictive. I hope you're okay.
Personally I think it might come down to if an abused person has any light in their life, something that makes them happy and lets them see a world outside the abuse. If their whole world only consists of the abuse it's probably easier to fall into either complete despair or a desire for revenge on it all. But that's just my uneducated opinion.
@@mariorovira3639 yeah. She's my favourite ADA. Not only because she knows the law and knows when it's not the case to sign a warrant or other stuff, but also because she has a great Memory in court room and Always finds a detail that can convict the criminal
aaaaaand then he gets released because its deemed that the police tortured him to get information by subjecting him to his phobias and locking him in a closet.
What they did by shoving him in that closet could be considered psychology Torture. If they did that in real life the case would have been blown and ruined
i understand that the mom was frustrated but locking a child in the closet does nothing. She should have gotten him help to address his fear of the dark
I wonder, if you have psycho's that have terrible childhoods, would you have them confess by the very thing that traumatized them? Either locked in a closet, or worse?
They never should’ve left Jeanette alone. One of them should’ve stayed with her. If they couldn’t take her directly to her sisters, then they should have taken her to the precinct and had the sister pick her up there. better still, they should’ve put her in some kind of protective custody. There was no way she wasn’t a high-risk of being targeted of the killer.
Chile Doug Hutchinson ! Always plays crazy characters. He’s a bit of a strange bird in real life. SMH 🤦🏽♀️ I have never seen a show or movie where he plays a sane person, never.
Doug married a 16 year old girl I don't know if he is still married to her but Elliot Stabler has three daughters and if he found out that a grown man married one of his daughters if they were sixteen the guy might as well planned for his own funeral.
You’re mixing RL with screen life, but I take your meaning. And I wonder if the cast was aware of his personal life. I don’t know that actors are privvy to each other’s private lives, but if it was me, I don’t think I could work along side someone who groomed a teenager no matter how mature she looked, even if he did have her mother’s blessing
Well they haven't been actually married for almost 2 years, before CoVid BS. Plus his real life was all over magazines since they were dating/married. Quite sure the cast knew.
This episode is on Netflix. Seasons 6, 7, 9, 10, 11 (not 8) are on Netflix now. This villain reminds me of the villain in the movie Se7en (1995) but this episode is better than that movie in part because in this episode we know what exactly motivates the villain whereas in Se7en the villain is just crazy & we're never told why.
Children are not able to handle adult psyclogical mental & emotional disfunctioning. Very young minds are not developed enough to deal with psychotic behavior. Especialy from a mother. It is a betrayal of the deepest kind of trust there is and it's after affects on the child are life long. Complex post traumatic stress. It is real and it affects more people then you think. It is emotionally crippling. Disfunctional mother's & or father's it is sad & seriously alarming.
“You see how he treats his mother!”
Yeah, but I also see how you treat your son.
Good Lord, barely surviving an attack by a serial killer, only to be attacked again by a copycat killer. This is the stuff that nightmares are made of.
What's really crazy about this episode is that BTK was seemingly a long-cold case when it aired...yet the authorities were in the early stages of the investigation that nailed him.
Maybe Janette, having managed to escape, had collaborated with the police who had arrested the killer who eventually had died, maybe committed suicide in prison (or before being arrested) or sentenced to death. It's likely, isn't it? What do you think?
Wouldn't rule it out.
@@giosy0072 I’m sure she told them what she could, but it’s more likely that he was arrested for another crime or even died in a traffic accident, or like BTK was able to make himself stop. That’s super rare but it happens. They even caught another serial killer from the 70s via a DNA website. So maybe it happens more than we think.
@invisible.fatman I think you misread the point. RDK was based off of the BTK events. Most Law & Order episodes are based on things that happened, and what could come of them. This episode came out before BTK, what this is in reference of, was caught: "Based off the widely known case of serial killer BTK (Dennis Rader), which stood for "Bind, Torture, Kill." Ironically, the real BTK was captured in February 2005 - four months after this episode aired.", a quote from imdb.
That man played *THE HELL* outta that role!! I just rewatched it a few days ago and I'm STILL amazed at that performance!!
Performance?
Nah he was just being himself
Turns out that he was actually playing himself.
This episode got everything right. One of the best things about SVU was so many episodes were never just simple black and white scenarios. The killer is played brilliantly, and hes awful in every way. But at the end when you see how he was tortured as a child you almost find a hint of sympathy for him. Really great episode.
Except the cops torturing an answer out of him. SVU gets things wrong all the time, usually with simple procedures and court cases.
This wouldn't be the first time Doug Hutchinson played a smug villain who gets locked in the closet...
🤣🤣🤣
Because of a friendly mouse too.
He was also outsmarted by a fox😂
@@earlesslama2379 Is that an "X-Files" reference as in by Fox Mulder, you mean? Sorry, it's 2 AM here right now and I can't think completely straight.
@@crepesoftime yes
He was locked in the room in the Green Mile.
the guy was vile but honestly... with a mother like that he never had a chance
Sad how many people could be so much better if their parents were.
I feel the same way. As evil as he is I still a degree of sympathy for him
Yeah, she created the monster he became
Ida was a narcissistic bully and just as petulant as her son, seeing him as a fashion accessory one moment, but then if Humphrey didn't do as he was told he became an unwanted annoyance to her. Never for a single moment, did she see him as a human being, let alone as her son.
Both of them should've gotten locked up.
He is all tough and smug until his mother walks in and starts talking him down 😅
It was the most hilarious thing to watch
It's the same that happens in virtually all cases of serialkillers & schoolshooters. There's a reason they are like that. In this case a violent & abusive parent - that never gave him a chance in life.
@@zazabrown732 not really shes the reason he is the way he is
@@YungN3gr0 think they meant hilarious because he’s still a heartless murderer. His past is an explanation, but it’s not an excuse, so most people aren’t gonna feel bad for him getting bullied by his mother right now. She’s an awful heinous person too, and it makes you feel for him as a kid, but it doesn’t mean people are gonna feel bad for him as a grown serial killer.
Always loved how Huang played with the killer's psychology in the interrogation.
He knows that he loves and craves the attention, so he plays into it by feeding him the idea that a whole team is investigating him, only to immediately poison it with the line about his impotence; they're not impressed, they think he's a joke. Huang then reels him back in by putting that positive attention on himself, showing that if the RDK copycat wants the validation, he's gotta go through him. And Huang uses this pseudo-trust to further destabilize him by digging into his past with his mother, touching the nerve raw. In just under a minute, the killer's ego is completely deflated, and the scene where's he directly confronted by his mother, the source of his trauma, is just the cherry on top.
The SVU reduced this schmuck from a sadistic killer to a sniveling child; probably violating some of his rights with the closet torture, but hey, it's TV.
He played the part brilliantly
Spoiler: When Doug Hutchinson is playing a super creepy predator, he's not actually acting.
He should have been cast as Clock King in a Batman film. He's nailed the "Riddler" bits Clock King had.
“You see how he treats his mother” with all due respect ma’am, you seem like you kinda deserve it
Yes, but it’s the great Anne Meara!
@@jimjimmyjames59 yeah she had the worst luck when it came to kids in the SVU universe.
I was really really rooting for Jeanette Henley to live. Imagine my relief when they found her alive
I’d like to imagine the real RDK watching from a far distance, silently disappointed in his copycat’s performance.
@@coltonstillwell3590 that's hilarious! Imagine he gets a letter to his copycat and absolutely *ROASTS* him
@MariAnimates Here’s a scenario to picture:
(The real RDK watches far away through binoculars as they rescue Jennette)
-RDK: Sloppy faker…
-Little Boy: Hey grandpa, what’cha lookin at?
-RDK: Oh, nothing important Sonny, come on, let’s go get those ice cream cones grandpa promised!
-Little Boy: Okay!
I know it's a show, and I know the character is a murderer, but christ the scene of them locking him in a pitch black closet really perturbs me. I guess it's a testament to how good of an actor he is, it's just uncannily similar to how some children (often disabled ones) are treated by their parents or teachers and it's just a bit too real for me
The character also was murdering women, not just women, mothers with sons, all because he didn't have the guts to stand up to his own mother or get therapy. He had an elderly woman locked in a dark refrigerator buried in a trash dump for shits and giggles. I don't feel bad for the loser at all. (The character, of course, the actor did a great job)
@@darkmask5933idk man. Feeling bad and hating a person at the same time is pretty easy. You feel bad for something bad happening to them on the one side and see that they are evil monsters on the other. Not that conflicting since it’s different actions and different moments
It's also concerning that the enforcers of "law and order" are using his phobia to force a confession/punish him. Even i he's a killer, they shouldn't behave like that.
@@patrick_j_lee honestly they probably ruined their chances of conviction with that stunt. they managed to rescue janette, but are they going to be able to rescue the next one he targets?
@@patrick_j_leeyep. This confession would've been thrown out in court.
Love the fact these 2 never get fired for literally torturing a perp, great writing, so realistic
Its not torture if theres no evidence😅
Can't get away with that now.
ironically it is realistic. youd be surprised with how much cops get away with
@@KhepriProductions2022 how much you wanna bet on that. local pd has a whole floor that the cameras just never seem to work. the people from that floor show up to court with their eyes swole shut and looking like they just got a years worth of lip injections.
@@DreamTheory1994 certain perks come with the ability of self investigation
Doug Hutchison is actually as creepy in real life as the characters he portrays
Yup, he's a good actor but that's all I can think of now when I see him
Yeah I read about him and the girl he met at 16, and eventually married with her mother’s blessing. His family on the other hand, disowned him.
@@rachelgarber1423u mean she was 16 while he’s I grown man? Idk bout him so I’m just asking cuz u said “he met at 16” meaning when they were both 16 so I think u might’ve misspoke
@@DrewSavv She was 16 when they got married and he was 50. A 34 year age gap
@@PastryChick oooh gotchuuu, yeah that’s bad and fuckin disgusting 🤮
You gotta admit. Doug Hutchison is an amazing actor. Just amazing.
But he always played creeps or deranged individuals like in the Green Mile.
He wasn't acting 💀
@@pixiestxNyomouf Bye bye Felicia!
If you remember him when he was in The Practice, he was just as frightening too.
That's because that's his true character.
7:30
Elliot shifting from "I should restrain him" to "I guess he's just having a tantrum" to "I should restrain him" was a neat background detail.
Doug Hutchison also played a stalker and killer on a CSI: Crime scene Investigation episode "Stalker" S2.E19. In the series finale episode "Immortality" he played a bomber.
He also played Tooms in X-Files...creepy!!
The prison guard in.green mile such an awesome movie
Love how he is going insane. It’s funny and awesome how they treat a guy like that.
Maybe parents being criminally liable for their children's acts of violence isn't such a bad idea
But hey! every kid deserves a parent! Make every women bear children but leave the men free of responsibility!
@@sleepyearthare you stupid?
One of my favorite episodes. When Stabler threw him in the closet and Olivia knocked out the light. After he told them where Jeanette was he said let me out Stabler said Jeanette first. I love it!
Doug Hutchinson plays those psycho parts brilliantly....He was in a film with Jamie Foxx (Bait) playing the same type of role.
He'll always be the creepy stretch man in X-files for me. His sadistic policeman in The Green Mile was also quite memorable.
@@MissE-E He was a prison guard in The Green Mile, not a policeman.
@zzzzzzzzzzzk Oh yes! And a cruel one too.
I love this episode. The riddles were so clever and brilliant.
That's the second time Officer Percy has been locked in a room for bad behavior
Interestingly, they never actually reveal what happened to the real RDK. No follow up episode about hunting him down, or a discovery in this episode of his actual identity, like him being long dead or something like that. Just… unsolved.
Maybe Janette, having managed to escape, had collaborated with the police who had arrested the killer who eventually had died, maybe committed suicide in prison (or before being arrested) or sentenced to death. It's likely, isn't it? What do you think?
I figured it’s a Zodiac type situation. Probably dead given the amount of time that passed.
@@skyofthelivingdead he might have been caught before Humpfrey (Doug Hutchinson) started to kill those women
It's my absolute favorite SVU episode. I could watch it over and over.
What episode??
@OmgAuntySuzanne16 it's called Scavenger not sure what season though.
@@snoopyfan1476imagine this dude and Merrit Rook working together
Season 6 episode 4
I almost forgot how much I enjoyed this episode.
this would be such a good movie concept. a copy cat killer goes after the only survivor who’s old now. kinda giving halloween 2018 but better.
I love his mother. Such a talented actress
I hate her. She was a horrible parent
Anne Meara, Jerry Stiller’s wife and Ben’s mom
@@rachelgarber1423 and Steve's mom from satc
@@estherross1She also played Patricia Arquette's (Jeannie) in a Season 14 episode of SVU.
@@nave712 If you hate her, that means she's a good actor. She's not his real parent if you dare to be in reality now.
Make no mistake. He deserves to waste away in prison for life, but his mother should’ve been locked up too.
For a moment there, I thought that guy was Steve-O from MTV's "Jackass". XD
This episode was inspired by BTK from Kansas. He was a serial killer who bound, tortured, and killed his victims.
He played the sadistic guard in 'The Green Mile'.
🎵Percy *Wet-more,*
Doing a little dance,
Hear him squishing in his pants!🎵
Percy Wetmore
I already watched this episode. I love Olivia's True Hero Side for all the victims
Things were SO much better when she wasn't the exec producer.
What a wonderful character actor, I'm sure he would never marry a 16 Year old when he is 51.
Bruh... the actress who played Ida acted the hell out of that part
Ben Stiller's mother - Anne Meara
I remember this episode. The killer placed the victims in a strategic pose so that he can take a picture and connect them like paper dolls. Creepy.
I believe that was a different episode, he targeted prostitutes
@@cromano6830 oh I think you’re right. The episode I was thinking about was when the killer was copying graphic comics and setting up the crime scene to copycat.
@@ameliabedelia7018 They caught the original killer in that one, an ex-cop
Is it wrong that I enjoy watching him flip out and lose his mind when they're dragging him towards the closet?
Kinda
Sorta
One of my favorite episodes.
I've been waiting for this one! Thank you
Back then when SVU had believable great actors
0:40 thats where hes wrong, ive studied serial killers, and some are not afraid to wait years between kills just to make sure its harder to find them, there are murder cases across the globe that are over a decade apart that could be connected and we dont know it
Literally what he said lmfao
How did I not notice that was Percy when I first watched this episode?
Percy?
The Green Mile
@@okami1101character from the green mile. Definitely worth the watch if you haven't seen it yet. Don't let the long run time dissuade you!
Yes that's Percy, he's back in the closet and pissed in his pants 😂
He's like a mixture of John Doe (Seven) and Edward Garrotte (The Replicant)
This is why I say “ it always starts at home or just around family members
Anne Meara and Jerry Stiller were great at playing "interesting" parents.
If I was a serial killer then I wouldn't be a copycat serial killer.
Humphrey is so pathetic he couldn’t be original, just a copycat
6:59 hilarious
STOP IT
8:30 everybody there already but they can't save her until the main characters are there 😆
I juat knew something was going to happen to Jeanette. 😢 They didn't offer to put her in hiding or offer protection after that unsolicited "reporter."
Looks like John Coffey really did a number on Percy.
And he had incontinence problems in "The Green Mile" too.
@@robertlevine2827 he just pissed his pants when Wild Bill grabbed him. Tom Hanks character had the, er, problem
Tom Hanks had a uti, no incontinence. Percy had an episode of incontinence when, like you mentioned, Wild Bill grabbed him @@ExplorerDS6789
@@ExplorerDS6789 This is what happened after Percy was later released from the mental institution.
@@ExplorerDS6789 "Was your mistress pleased?"
One of the best episodes ever of SVU
it really is. I think Season 6 is my favorite overall
He's a great actor.
I still remember the late Ray Stevenson putting a .500 Smith and Wesson Magnum through his head in Punisher: War Zone.
Doug is a hell of an actor.
Cops: "He'll never get out...."
Judge: Lets him out after 6 months. Bc jails are full of pot smokers. 😢
6:20 - 7:25 When I saw this bit with Doug Hutchinson, all I could think about was his Percy Whitmore character from The Green Mile, where he gets so scared by Sam Rockwell's Wild Bill, he pissed himself.
🎵Percy *Wetmore,*
Do a little dance,
Hear him squishing in his pants!🎵
He was Toombs the human liver eating dude in X Files
I’ll never forget him eyeballing the mail slot in the door…
I thought Janette was played by Florence Henderson until I had to look it up.
He may be type cast but he's great at what he does!!
Percy Wetmore do a dance, listen to him squishing in his pants
Percy
@@inheritmyshoes9559My phone must have autocorrected to that, I didn’t even realize! Thank you for letting me know!
😂😂😂😂
omg i cracked up when they started putting him in the closet 😂😂😂😂😂 this show is so farfetched that it's just hilarious
Goddammit Percy
Get the hell of my block
Doug Hutchison deserves more love. One of the best creature features in X Files and one of the most obnoxious, uncomfortable, unstable villains in drama history in Green Mile. I love him so much.
>Watching L&O
>interrogating a serial killer who has a fear of closets and the dark
>Detective shoves him into a dark closet to get answers.
You know, I'm not a lawyer, but I'm almost certain that this would violate the 8th amendment and anything gained from this "enhanced" interrogation would be thrown out of court as fruit from the poisoned tree.
7:23 Great voice acting, goddamn
Wow. Percy's descendent doesn't fall far. Locked in confinement XD
Only just realised who this guy is i’ve seen this episode a couple of times but never realised till now I thought he looked familiar he stars as Percy wetmore from the green mile
fun, fun, fun, let's play again,
for the next feather in my cap,
check in the policeman's helmet
@1:48 Elliot's comment about the policeman's helmet makes more sense now that I saw this in the background😂😂😂
He fit this role to a T, a great Ep
yeah one could say he is a method actor.
Legend has it that Humphrey Becker is still locked in that broom closet today.
When Stabler slapped him my soul rejoiced
Liv and Elliot: *intentionally triggers a copycat killer's PTSD in exchange for the location of his victim's locations*
Cragen: *enters the scene casually* "Thought you could use this." *hands them the utility closet key*
I wonder then why some others of us who had mothers like that don't turn out to be serial killers. If you can answer that question then you're smarter than I am
Most in that situation don't turn out to be murderers. Everyone reacts differently to trauma and torture. Some people have a switch that can be flicked with the right type or amount of stimulus. And some would turn out that way anyhow, through other stimuli or possibly innately. Bad parenting, as egregious as it can get, may lead to a violent adulthood, but it's not indicative enough to be predictive. I hope you're okay.
Personally I think it might come down to if an abused person has any light in their life, something that makes them happy and lets them see a world outside the abuse. If their whole world only consists of the abuse it's probably easier to fall into either complete despair or a desire for revenge on it all. But that's just my uneducated opinion.
@@DRAG0NSPIRIT10 Based on my experience, I think you nailed it
Everyone reacts differently to trauma and not everyone has a moral compass. This man wasn’t the only monster in this story
Maybe some people are already predisposed to be like that
Prime novak in all her beauty 😍
@@mariorovira3639 yeah. She's my favourite ADA. Not only because she knows the law and knows when it's not the case to sign a warrant or other stuff, but also because she has a great Memory in court room and Always finds a detail that can convict the criminal
If this was real, any lawyer would have an absolute field day after the officers locked him in the dark closet.
Doug Hutchinson looks like actor robbin Williams
Fantastic actor, love him what a clip.
aaaaaand then he gets released because its deemed that the police tortured him to get information by subjecting him to his phobias and locking him in a closet.
Doug Hutchisons’ performance here is another fine example of example a outstanding actor being completely ignored by the industry.
What they did by shoving him in that closet could be considered psychology Torture. If they did that in real life the case would have been blown and ruined
At least he didn't eat the kidneys this time lol
His mother should be arrested for torturing a child.
i understand that the mom was frustrated but locking a child in the closet does nothing. She should have gotten him help to address his fear of the dark
I wonder, if you have psycho's that have terrible childhoods, would you have them confess by the very thing that traumatized them? Either locked in a closet, or worse?
They never should’ve left Jeanette alone. One of them should’ve stayed with her. If they couldn’t take her directly to her sisters, then they should have taken her to the precinct and had the sister pick her up there. better still, they should’ve put her in some kind of protective custody. There was no way she wasn’t a high-risk of being targeted of the killer.
Chile Doug Hutchinson ! Always plays crazy characters. He’s a bit of a strange bird in real life. SMH 🤦🏽♀️ I have never seen a show or movie where he plays a sane person, never.
Doug married a 16 year old girl I don't know if he is still married to her but Elliot Stabler has three daughters and if he found out that a grown man married one of his daughters if they were sixteen the guy might as well planned for his own funeral.
You’re mixing RL with screen life, but I take your meaning. And I wonder if the cast was aware of his personal life. I don’t know that actors are privvy to each other’s private lives, but if it was me, I don’t think I could work along side someone who groomed a teenager no matter how mature she looked, even if he did have her mother’s blessing
Well they haven't been actually married for almost 2 years, before CoVid BS. Plus his real life was all over magazines since they were dating/married. Quite sure the cast knew.
@@rachelgarber1423he ruined his career when he married her. The acting he did on this show was years prior to that relationship
@@frasermackenzie7275the relationship with her started years after his appearances on this show. He basically ruined his career by getting with her
@@that.ll_do_pig Oh ok I can’t believe her family was ok with that relationship
What ever you do don't call him Looney Bin Jim from Punisher War Zone.
@8:35 really?? Cop couldn't even use bolt cutters??😂😂😂
This episode is on Netflix.
Seasons 6, 7, 9, 10, 11 (not 8) are on Netflix now.
This villain reminds me of the villain in the movie Se7en (1995) but this episode is better than that movie in part because in this episode we know what exactly motivates the villain whereas in Se7en the villain is just crazy & we're never told why.
ya he def needs locked up but also lock his mom up just from the clip it looks like she groomed him to turn out this way
The best part of this episode was Elliot slapping the killer 😅
One of my favorite episodes
what ep ?
This was a good episode and doug hutchinson is creepy AF i wanted him to play more villains on svu
He would cry like a baby, lmao!
Children are not able to handle adult psyclogical mental & emotional disfunctioning. Very young minds are not developed enough to deal with psychotic behavior. Especialy from a mother. It is a betrayal of the deepest kind of trust there is and it's after affects on the child are life long.
Complex post traumatic stress.
It is real and it affects more people then you think. It is emotionally crippling. Disfunctional mother's & or father's it is sad & seriously alarming.
This sounds like inspiration was taken from a case out of Kansas.
Well that woman is never going te feel safe ever again. 😰
Anybody know who's the actress that played julie liebert?