You weakened the steel tube, yo have opened the tube to internal corrosion, you have reduced clearance and access which will increase debris jams and difficulty of clearing, you have massively increased the difficulty of replacing the wheel which you WILL have to do in less than 6 months. Did I get everything? At least we didn't have to watch you weld much in this one...
@@AndyPat239 yes, and that is how this type of wheel is mounted, i.e. without bolt holes or any other method available. It seemed that structural integrity was what he was trying improve which could easily be done by adding a wide triangular plate to either/both sides to act as gussets. Problem solved.
@@cleniopacheco6350 Демонатрции чего? Тго, что на идео не профиссионал! Он еще и ослабил профил и его несущую способность, никакой сваркой это неисправить!
@@user-yu5by7nb8rМожет быть колесо и "квадратное", но логика здесь есть: уменьшив высоту крепления блока, автор снизил продольно-поперечные вибрации. На мой взгляд, идея хороша, но требует ещё мастерства. Поставь два колеса с одинаковым вылетом, замени "ось" в колесе на подшипники и прорезиненные колеса! И поедут ворота, как ЗиЛ по Красной площади: мягко и ровно. Непонимание этого приводит к тому, что большинство ворот делаются на коленке, лишь бы сдать хозяину и получить бабки. А потом и владелец мучается и его соседи: сделал погремушку на моторе, вот поехал в магазин, вот приехал. Вся округа оболдевает, мягко говоря😅
I'm starting to wonder if the person making these videos is actually a genius : Make videos doing stupid, unnecessary, and unsound repairs, and you get a higher amount of views and comments and therefore make more money from the content. Or maybe he's just an idiot..🤔
Можно было бы сделать проще и без сварки☝🏾🤔😳😆. Вытащить ролик и эту накладку вообще, и померяв высоту ролика сделать сквозное отверстие в длинной раме для оси ролика вставить туда колёсико. Нижнюю часть длинной рамы из которого будет вылезать край колеса, только резать, но варить не нада😊. Лень, панимаешь-ли,- Двигатель Прогресса! 😉😆😆😆☝🏾🤝🏾👍🏾👏🏾. Логика-она не зависит только от действительной лени и невежества😆🖐️
Another technique that could work and wouldn't involve potentially weakening the metal bar: Weld the wheel to the SIDE of the bar. The gate would be offset a little in front or behind the track, which may require other adjustments in the gate, but changing the height of the gate would require adjustments anyway.
Built a similar gate,, Cut a square relief hole at the bottom of the beam, and install the wheel up inside the beam, So just a small portion of the wheel was hanging below the beam..,, This way, the beam is blocking any opening to the ground to keep pets in the yard, Did not need that bracket. Then sprayed the inside of the beam with cavity wax to deter corrosion, And installed a Porsche wheel Bearing in the wheel , For a lifetime of performance...Is a 500 pound gate when finished..
Waste of time, weakened tube and cause internal rust. Was flat welded with tacks before, the only fault was bearing an shaft stiff from corrosion. Now you have that, along with the gate tube will break. Good job😢
He cierto lo que dicen debilitaste el tubo, eso en primera, será mas dificil darle mantenimiento así como lo dejaste y en era un portón corredizo las carretillas van arriba para evitar que se atasque con facilidad
And increase the chance of the gate being jimmy'ed of the rail with a crowbar to aid B&E, not only that, dirt and small stones will now become lodged INCREASING wheel wear.... People aren't missing the "reason" They are telling you why this was a bad choice...
By This Way, Your Frame Will Rust Faster... Instead You Just Need To Replaced The Wheel In The Future, And Now You Need To Replaced Your Sliding Gate Frame Or Fully Changed A New Sliding Gate... That Was Not Efficient..
А че так сложно то? Надо было ролик с осью снять со своего кронштейна, а в трубе сделать вырез и отверстие. Сварка вообще не нужна и зазор между трубой и роликом был бы минимальным.
Don’t do this lmao. As a gate installer/programmer I can assure you that this is no longer structurally sound it won’t hold up for long term. Just make sure your guide wheel and track are aligned and you’re good. If someone hits the gate with a car, it’s better to have the wheel either bust off or the entire gate jump off the track than to have a weakened section bend and have to replace a entire section.
this is what happens when a metal worker, found the art of timber joinery, and decided it applies to metal work ...... without realising it introduces issues such as, rust, strength etc.
I never used the welding machine, I am a developer actually, but I love to watch this... anyway, what caught my eye is the fact that the rain will get into a tube an cause rusting...
Esistono altri tipi di ruote più sottili per andare dentro il profilato tagliando solo un lato evitando cosi di indebolire il longherone principale del cancello scorrevole 🤔🤠🤩😁
All I can see are people who know everything and crying about how he tack welded the wheel. Guys, this is just for your reference. Of course, in the real application, he will properly weld it. Lastly, he is simply showing you his technique, and it's up to you whether you will consider it or not. ✌🏾🫶🏾
Get rid of the whole bottom track... who wants to trip or push a wheel barrell or stroller over that... Put the gate on hard rubber wheels and roll across...
Yes? It also greatly improves the chances of success to jimmy the gate off of its rail and having your perimeter breached... The amount of difference toward the effect of "gravity" inside 20mm is minuscule at best....
now you have weakened the structure from bearing the weight of the rest of the gate. good idea for light weight, but eventually you have created a weak point, a rusting point .. donot do this
Your method needs someone whose got enough time hanging around at one client's house per week. I do the old easy method and it works all the time as long as you set your welder right
если это просто ворота во двор и поверхность выровнена. нет грязевых ручьев и сильных ветров. тоесть можно ворота в пол опустить практически. при этом менять втулку или колесо гораздо проще будет. заранее сделать посадочные места для этой квадратной вилки с роликом. далее просто вставить
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what a bloody hassle when you have to take that wheel out again and replace it plus it takes way to much space away when you need to install a gate motor
Если извращаться то по-полной! Вырезать "дно" чуть больше колеса, просверлить соосно 2 отверстия, чуть отступив от края. Вставить в трубу колесо вставить болт, который будет являться осью колеса. Закрутить. Все, готово. Можно доизвращаться с осью, подшипниками и т.д. Описал простую базовую идею.
First of all. NO! Second, a 10mm round bar and a 40mm wheel are way to small for ANYTHING bigger than a 2M gate..... Those wheels will cause flattening of the round bar pretty much what you already can see and not only that, the small contact area will cause chattering. THE ONLY worthwhile material for bigger gates is a 16mm round bar and an 80mm x 16mm round groove wheel combo, I have been doing this for many many years and have learned a few things. Third, you have now opened up the rectangle tube to internal corrosion. Fourth, you have greatly improved the chances for a person with a crowbar to jimmy the gate off of its rail by lowering it..... Fifth, by mounting those wheels inside the frame you have caused the wheels and housing to catch and retain ANY dirt or small stones causing further wear... Please NO ONE do what this person has done... This is completely wrong.... If you are trying to re enforce the weld area you could just have gusseted the steel frame of the wheel housing...
Если так хочется спрятать внутрь, то просто окно вырезаешь и прячешь через него внутрь этот ролик. Но при этом не забыть, что болт, проходящий через стенки насквозь, не может быть осью ролика, потому что при его затяжке стенки профиля сойдутся. Внутрь ролика ставится втулка, которая и зажимается стенками профиля при затягивании болта, она и есть ось. Вот и всë.
Usually you take a larger wheel and insert it directly into the tube. Simply cut an opening at the bottom, drill a horizontal hole and install the wheel using the axle with scew and nut.
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You weakened the steel tube, yo have opened the tube to internal corrosion, you have reduced clearance and access which will increase debris jams and difficulty of clearing, you have massively increased the difficulty of replacing the wheel which you WILL have to do in less than 6 months. Did I get everything? At least we didn't have to watch you weld much in this one...
😂😂😂👍
Plus he tac welded it.
novice here, could he have continued the tac welds he had originally along the base of the wheel?
@@AndyPat239 yes, and that is how this type of wheel is mounted, i.e. without bolt holes or any other method available. It seemed that structural integrity was what he was trying improve which could easily be done by adding a wide triangular plate to either/both sides to act as gussets. Problem solved.
😊😊😊
Now run ! before the owners get there and see the damage ...
You cut a section of a long beam that was structurally sound!
@carlosmejia5728 is more structurally sound once welded, it's just tacted for display purposes.
its a gate not a bridge bro. settle down.
@@GMCShazamataz Done comment if you not smart enough to understand the damage he did to the door
These arm chair engineers in the comments 😆@@GMCShazamataz
Es lo correcto, y no pierde fuerza , es solo UN gate y deve tener estetica señores del jurado!!😅
Он работал столяром, а затем ему купили сварочный аппарат и болгарку. Вот и понесло несчастного
No sufrió, desarrolla sus habilidades de carpintería Metalica, que bueno trasmitir ideas de trabajo
😂
С чего ты взял, что он несчастный? Он счастлив больше чем ты!
So what's the different? Are you carpenter?
We got welders and we got rod burners.😂
Ураа, теперь профиль внутри начнёт гнить, потому что он не наглухо заварен.)))
Imagino que só ponteou para demonstrar. Se for profissional fará um bom acabamento na solda e pintura 👍🏻
@@cleniopacheco6350 Демонатрции чего? Тго, что на идео не профиссионал! Он еще и ослабил профил и его несущую способность, никакой сваркой это неисправить!
@@СашСавар-ф5д Também não sou profissional. Só uma análise técnica para responder suas abordagens 👍🏻
А ещё во внутренней части ролика забьëтся всякая грязь и ни чем еë не выковырять.
@cleniopacheco6350*É possível fazer um teto SOLAR EM UMA CASA USANDO ESSA ROLDAMAS E NÃO PODE ENTRAR AGUA DE CHUVAS EM HIPOTESE ALGUMA*
Another tip is to put a wiper infront of the roller and one behind, it will always keep debris and small rocks off the bottom frame.
Does not last. been there done that it is a waste of time.
It's called maintenance, use good quality @@GapRecordingsNamibia
All commercial gate do this as well
Колесо квадратное и прыгает. Я думал, он колесо на новое заменит, а он его снял и обратно поставил.
Я тоже не вижу логики ....
@@user-yu5by7nb8rМожет быть колесо и "квадратное", но логика здесь есть: уменьшив высоту крепления блока, автор снизил продольно-поперечные вибрации. На мой взгляд, идея хороша, но требует ещё мастерства. Поставь два колеса с одинаковым вылетом, замени "ось" в колесе на подшипники и прорезиненные колеса! И поедут ворота, как ЗиЛ по Красной площади: мягко и ровно.
Непонимание этого приводит к тому, что большинство ворот делаются на коленке, лишь бы сдать хозяину и получить бабки. А потом и владелец мучается и его соседи: сделал погремушку на моторе, вот поехал в магазин, вот приехал. Вся округа оболдевает, мягко говоря😅
@@ddromantik8465 o melhor comentário, simplesmente perfeito.
Контакт ролика с трубой не правильный, движется по трубе разным диаметром и создаёт шум и трение.@@user-yu5by7nb8r
этот ролик под весом ворот будет тормозить из-за разной угловой скорости на разном удалении от оси.
Not only is this a faulty fix for many reasons, nobody has mentioned lowering the wheel now changes the gate height! .
I'm starting to wonder if the person making these videos is actually a genius : Make videos doing stupid, unnecessary, and unsound repairs, and you get a higher amount of views and comments and therefore make more money from the content.
Or maybe he's just an idiot..🤔
Можно было бы сделать проще и без сварки☝🏾🤔😳😆.
Вытащить ролик и эту накладку вообще, и померяв высоту ролика сделать сквозное отверстие в длинной раме для оси ролика вставить туда колёсико.
Нижнюю часть длинной рамы из которого будет вылезать край колеса, только резать, но варить не нада😊.
Лень, панимаешь-ли,- Двигатель Прогресса! 😉😆😆😆☝🏾🤝🏾👍🏾👏🏾.
Логика-она не зависит только от действительной лени и невежества😆🖐️
Good idea! I thought of welding the wheel holder on the side of the frame, but removing it and attaching directly to the frame may be better.
.. нарисовать можешь ? 😊
@@ЮрийКотеланов-и5и а соображалку включить не хотишь?! 😳😂
Ты гений 🤔
можно в вырез плотно вставить круглый кожух по верху ролика и обмазать герметиком )))
Another technique that could work and wouldn't involve potentially weakening the metal bar: Weld the wheel to the SIDE of the bar. The gate would be offset a little in front or behind the track, which may require other adjustments in the gate, but changing the height of the gate would require adjustments anyway.
Thank you. This is how it should be: Proposal for a solution to address the weakness identified.
great idea just makes the beam weaker and don't try it on a heavy gate it will bend
And after 25 years,my driveway gate are still running "with the old" way 👍👍 just weld it straight too the tubing and be happy 😂
Parabéns muito bom “criatividade’
Built a similar gate,, Cut a square relief hole at the bottom of the beam, and install the wheel up inside the beam, So just a small portion of the wheel was hanging below the beam..,, This way, the beam is blocking any opening to the ground to keep pets in the yard, Did not need that bracket. Then sprayed the inside of the beam with cavity wax to deter corrosion, And installed a Porsche wheel Bearing in the wheel , For a lifetime of performance...Is a 500 pound gate when finished..
Waste of time, weakened tube and cause internal rust. Was flat welded with tacks before, the only fault was bearing an shaft stiff from corrosion. Now you have that, along with the gate tube will break. Good job😢
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Hard to clran hard to maintenance, hard to move... Success ⚙️✊
Таким Макаром можно сразу вырезать под отверстие и разогнуть трубу не поперёк а вдоль😂
He cierto lo que dicen debilitaste el tubo, eso en primera, será mas dificil darle mantenimiento así como lo dejaste y en era un portón corredizo las carretillas van arriba para evitar que se atasque con facilidad
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Why?
Slides as bad as before
😊😊😊
It would still roll over anything you could accomplish.
Not sure what kind of gate that's gonna hold up ? But not anything that's worth a shit to keep anybody out ! guarantee that.
@epmcdonaldSI SE TRATA DE ESO PARA EL LADRON NO HAY PUERTAS NI CANDADOS 4562
"You wagged your finger at me, so I'll have to give you a 0 out of 10. I'd like to thank you for playing. There ya go 👍"
People missing the reason for doing it this way is to reduce the clearance to the bottom of the gate.
And increase the chance of the gate being jimmy'ed of the rail with a crowbar to aid B&E, not only that, dirt and small stones will now become lodged INCREASING wheel wear.... People aren't missing the "reason" They are telling you why this was a bad choice...
@@GapRecordingsNamibiaPeople aren't jimmying gates off where I live. You do you and take your hostility elsewhere
Reduce the clearance for what reason? The height was fine
И тут пошел снег....
Дождь, снег, собака поссала... Мало того, что колесо будет говном зарастать, а профиль сильнее гнить, так он ещё и ослабил конструкцию трубы в целом.
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I like this shorts...❤
By This Way, Your Frame Will Rust Faster... Instead You Just Need To Replaced The Wheel In The Future, And Now You Need To Replaced Your Sliding Gate Frame Or Fully Changed A New Sliding Gate... That Was Not Efficient..
now you make the square tubing on the frame very weak
Через пару лет надо менять трубу. О тебе вспомнят ,, хорошим словом,,)😂
А че так сложно то? Надо было ролик с осью снять со своего кронштейна, а в трубе сделать вырез и отверстие. Сварка вообще не нужна и зазор между трубой и роликом был бы минимальным.
ещё можно вставить круглый кожух над роликом и обмазать герметиком, что бы грязь и влага не попадали в профиль )))
Don’t do this lmao. As a gate installer/programmer I can assure you that this is no longer structurally sound it won’t hold up for long term. Just make sure your guide wheel and track are aligned and you’re good. If someone hits the gate with a car, it’s better to have the wheel either bust off or the entire gate jump off the track than to have a weakened section bend and have to replace a entire section.
А смыл! Всё равно по металлу трется!?
Потому что он говнодел какой-то. Я вообще не понял смысла этого действа. Задолбаться, видимо.
There will be no safety for humans,when it's jumps through railings 😢 disasters occur
Ao final, funcionalidade e estética. Parabéns! 👏👏
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Whats that marker called? I want one!
Awesome idea... Well implemented....
Resuce the gates profile hight...
As a 24 year old welder in this industry for 56 years I can confirm that my wife’s father-in-law taught me that this is very tacky
this is what happens when a metal worker, found the art of timber joinery, and decided it applies to metal work ...... without realising it introduces issues such as, rust, strength etc.
Better than new... ha ha ha..... good work.
Круглое - кантовать , квадратное - катить 😂😂😂
А теперь этот профиль нагрузку не держит😂.
He did point out all the damage he was gonna do beforehand, so you can’t really be surprised.
I never used the welding machine, I am a developer actually, but I love to watch this... anyway, what caught my eye is the fact that the rain will get into a tube an cause rusting...
Esistono altri tipi di ruote più sottili per andare dentro il profilato tagliando solo un lato evitando cosi di indebolire il longherone principale del cancello scorrevole 🤔🤠🤩😁
а подварить снизу профильную трубу, пластину и закрепить на них полосу резины не судьба, не?
Показал где надо проварить, но сам этого не смог сделать👍😂
All I can see are people who know everything and crying about how he tack welded the wheel. Guys, this is just for your reference. Of course, in the real application, he will properly weld it. Lastly, he is simply showing you his technique, and it's up to you whether you will consider it or not. ✌🏾🫶🏾
Get rid of the whole bottom track... who wants to trip or push a wheel barrell or stroller over that...
Put the gate on hard rubber wheels and roll across...
Браво мајсоре одлична идеја😮
Nice vedio chief.. hi, im from Malaysia, im also a content creator
Good job bro.. the best
I like what you do I don't always understand the why!
Very nice! Roller only needs to have minimal clearance above track and this lowers center of gravity also
But bends the beam, due to shrinkage.
Sim, o problema é que enfraqueceu a estrutura, se não requer resistência, não há problema, mas se requer capacidade, isso é inútil.
Yes? It also greatly improves the chances of success to jimmy the gate off of its rail and having your perimeter breached... The amount of difference toward the effect of "gravity" inside 20mm is minuscule at best....
я думал он сделает чтоб ролик ровно крутился, не как по волнам )))
good work,, but kindly tell me whats the difference occur if some gape is there in wheels and guide track?
now you have weakened the structure from bearing the weight of the rest of the gate. good idea for light weight, but eventually you have created a weak point, a rusting point .. donot do this
This is not a good idea.
What if during replacement.
😂
Your method needs someone whose got enough time hanging around at one client's house per week. I do the old easy method and it works all the time as long as you set your welder right
если это просто ворота во двор и поверхность выровнена. нет грязевых ручьев и сильных ветров. тоесть можно ворота в пол опустить практически. при этом менять втулку или колесо гораздо проще будет. заранее сделать посадочные места для этой квадратной вилки с роликом. далее просто вставить
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方管切割鑲入滾輪雖然有焊接，接縫仍然會滲水，日久容易下垂，大大減少方管強度。😧
People acting like he destroyed a nasa rocket. Its a simple gate roller, hardly any structural stresses on that beam. Get over yourselves.
En Perú se conoce, soldar como carpintería Metalica y todo bien...
好神奇，那你们需要焊接的部件，会使用和木工一样的思考方式么？就像视频里展示的那样。对于我们来说，不会花费这么多时间在焊接部件上开槽，宁愿多一点焊接来增加强度。
Lihat nya enak, praktek nya susah 😂
Молодец! За то не будет поворачиваться и ровно ехать! 😊🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
what a bloody hassle when you have to take that wheel out again and replace it plus it takes way to much space away when you need to install a gate motor
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Если извращаться то по-полной! Вырезать "дно" чуть больше колеса, просверлить соосно 2 отверстия, чуть отступив от края. Вставить в трубу колесо вставить болт, который будет являться осью колеса. Закрутить. Все, готово. Можно доизвращаться с осью, подшипниками и т.д. Описал простую базовую идею.
What a difference it makes?
The essence of this is sealed ball bearings. Without them the wheels will keep seizing and need greasing every week.
Great, as usual
Serviço limpo e bem feito. Para ficar melhor, 2 chapas de metal nas laterais reforçaria a parte alterada
Unless there was a hight adjustment needed, he could have left the original setup but with more than 2 spot welds.
ऐसे एक दरवाजे बनाने में 1 साल का वक्त चाहिए😂😂😂😂
по моему, теперь и колесо квадратное и стало еще криво стоять😅
What marker pen were you using in this vid??...
HUH? you did what now?
First of all. NO!
Second, a 10mm round bar and a 40mm wheel are way to small for ANYTHING bigger than a 2M gate.....
Those wheels will cause flattening of the round bar pretty much what you already can see and not only that, the small contact area will cause chattering. THE ONLY worthwhile material for bigger gates is a 16mm round bar and an 80mm x 16mm round groove wheel combo, I have been doing this for many many years and have learned a few things.
Third, you have now opened up the rectangle tube to internal corrosion.
Fourth, you have greatly improved the chances for a person with a crowbar to jimmy the gate off of its rail by lowering it.....
Fifth, by mounting those wheels inside the frame you have caused the wheels and housing to catch and retain ANY dirt or small stones causing further wear...
Please NO ONE do what this person has done... This is completely wrong....
If you are trying to re enforce the weld area you could just have gusseted the steel frame of the wheel housing...
Makes life difficult for future replacement and it is guaranteed to need replacing
Если так хочется спрятать внутрь, то просто окно вырезаешь и прячешь через него внутрь этот ролик. Но при этом не забыть, что болт, проходящий через стенки насквозь, не может быть осью ролика, потому что при его затяжке стенки профиля сойдутся. Внутрь ролика ставится втулка, которая и зажимается стенками профиля при затягивании болта, она и есть ось. Вот и всë.
Once again we are here, welders beefing in the section on what constitutes as a good weld.
Usually you take a larger wheel and insert it directly into the tube. Simply cut an opening at the bottom, drill a horizontal hole and install the wheel using the axle with scew and nut.
This is brilliant! makes the wheel sturdier 💯
это для задвижки ворот ? или такое правило для поверхности залитого битона ?
🤔🤔🤔... isso daí, só quando o serralheiro é um profissional capricho so com seus serviços !!! 🇧🇷
ЛА ХАВЛА ВА ЛА КУВВАТА ИЛЛА БИЛЛАХ
All you did was make it easier for the inside to rust.
I love this job
your way is very good
Nice Job Idol ❤🎉
El proyecto es muy bueno, pues asegura que no haya riesgo.🤗
В ЭТОМ СЛУЧАЕ ПРОФНАСТИЛ МОЖНО ПОНИЖЕ ОПУСТИТЬ ЧЕМ ТАКУЮ СЛОЖНУЮ ОПЕРАЦИЮ ДЕЛАТЬ.
Muy buen idea, me joro el arrastre y que no se salga de la guía 👌💡
Excellent job 👍
Legends never use this type steel tyre's. 😂😂
bro just made it even worse 💀
Железный ролик шумит по рельсам, я поставил парно от роликовых коньков ,тише стало и мягче в сто раз, главное ворота делать облегченные
Muy buena idea solo que deberías de meter la llanta solo cortas la pura tapa
Bukadar ölçü yerine tekerleğe işaret koyup her iki tarafa da mark atabilirsin 👍🏼
เยี่ยมมากครับ😮