This is really exciting. I slowly get my head around that the kingdom Jesus speaks of is in this world. Through us as conduits of God’s will. Salvation is not in the next world, it’s here when heaven and earth come together. This is a message of hope, not of hopelessness
The Easter Vigil (Saturday evening before Easter) we hear “Salvation History” through selected readings from Genesis, Exodus, etc all the way to the Resurrection account. It conveys what Dr. Wright is saying here. Thank you for the reminder about the key role of Abraham. We need to study him more to understand the larger picture.
I have walked with Jesus for almost 50 years having accepted my salvation as a teenager. Every day has been majestic in one way or another but there have been some watershed moments along the way. Encountering N T Wright's perspectives on what the New Covenant is about is one of those moments. Thank you Tom.
Thanks so much for your encouraging words! While we don't handle publications at N.T. Wright Online, part one of our online course based on History and Eschatology is available now and part two is in post-production and coming soon at www.admirato.org You can also view our courses in Brasilian Portuguese here: www.ntwrightonline.org/portfolio-items/bem-vindo-ao-n-t-wright-online-brasil/
This series just started a few weeks ago, there’s a new video each week. 😊 Episode 4 will be available Monday, I think. So good, right?! It’s hard to wait for the next one.
God bless you Mr. Wright. I wonder if there is any venue, any preferred connecting point that you would engage with someone who is faithfully watching and learning from your videos. I realize that you can't talk to everyone, but I think I have something to say ~> into your beautifully constructed theology, that you would be very interested in. If there is any forum for communicating with you, could you please let me know?
We are happy to provide an online space where we discuss Professor Wright's free online courses and other topics of interest here: www.admirato.org/products/communities/freestudyhall Admirato.org is the new home of N.T. Wright Online where we welcome discussion and feedback. We hope to see you there!
We appreciate your question, a lot could be said! My reflection on this verse is that it speaks to the promise of God's abiding presence, assuring us that we find our dwelling with God. I am reminded of the beautiful vision in Rev. 21:3 where God comes to dwell with humans. "He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them and will be their God." What are your thoughts? Charleen--N.T. Wright Online
I like NT's phrase: 'heaven and earth come together'. But I think he's missed the most obvious description of this in Genesis 1 itself. Like Francis Schaeffer does in his Genesis in Space and Time, Tom seems to regard the days as in themselves nugatory. But we know that all scripture has purpose, and a major structuring device as are the days in Genesis 1 has to contain instruction, as per Paul's statement about scripture In 2 Timothy 3. So, what instruction could the days give? Most obviously to me is that they place the creation in history and attach it to our 'life-world'. The days are defined (calibrated) as normal days (about which no amount of squirming can avoid). God's tempo of action is the same as our tempo of action: he has, in so creating, entered the history of those who will bear his image and underwritten the creation of his, as truly made (not imaginary or an abstraction) and made in terms of the joint interaction of God's wisdom (Prov 3:19, 20) and its material. God is not a gnostic! This is the first of the great links between God's domain and the domain of his creatures-in-his-image; it sets the stage/makes the space for our communion with God in the real physical terms of the creation (and thus there has to be a real physical trace of God's real action in real days in our biosphere, or we have platonized the creation! and impersonalized it). The days show us creation in terms of a dependency structure in the events of each successive day, building to a climax. The dependency structure is not only physical, with energy -- light -- being first made, but theological at many levels. They also show creation by power: God's word has real effect and material consequences. There is no barrier between God's 'spiritual' ontology and his material creation - our material world and embodied being. He needs no intermediaries to create, nor does he bury his power in the on-going process of the creation, merging himself into the creation as theistic evolution must imply. And neither is he deism's (or Aristotle's) distant and perhaps impersonal 'god'. Again, the grounding of his domain linking with our domain is made. God's words in history show a rational causality at work. Similar to an engineer today: first a device is brought together in thought, then it is made: only we use intermediate material and mental processes. God doesn't. God's rational causality again places his creation in the real world, unlike the a-historical fantasies of either paganism in its irrational causality or modern materialism. The creation account (description) finally is God acting as he does throughout scripture: in history by concrete historical acts, events and causes. It creates the context for the theophanies, for the prophets, for the incarnation and is the obvious 'bookend' to which Revelation is the counterpart. Indeed, in the creation account itself we see the context at work: in Genesis 3:8 God comes to find Adam and Eve, to be in fellowship with them, but sees they have chosen 'not-god' over God at the tree. Alas! However, God will not be frustrated in bringing the final outcome he wants: thus the New Creation, as Tom so eloquently puts it. Days! God present and active in our history from the get-go; really, tangibly, concretely!
I understand that the Bible is pretty silent on what happens to you between death and the New Creation. What about Jesus’ teaching on Gehenna/ Hell. He seems to talk quite a bit about that. Will those going there only experience that fire after the New Creation?
Mr Wright we have thousands of temples made by human hands where God does not dwell, whether they are Roman Catholics, Anglicans, Presbyterians, Methodists, and a long etcetera. And God does not dwell, not because he is not ubiquitous, but because he is not interested in sanctuaries, nor does he demand them, since he does not need them because he is omnipresent. What Yahweh really wants is for us as his children to be the temple where God lives. Obstinacy for supposedly sacred buildings leads us to spiritual and economic misery, to an ultimately failed prior pact.
The premise that god(super being) lives in people(believers) or “within you”(individuals)is not true or is false. Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your LAW, I said, Ye are gods? The characteristics of gods are our free will(sovereign) and capacity for judgment. Psa 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of God(government); He judgeth among the gods. A god among gods who rises above gods becomes the supreme ruler, whose word is almighty - the word is God(John 1:1) If you can’t get this right then the whole premise of Christian salvation of the world and nations, plus their biblical discourse, will be all wrong or false(giving rise to a false gospel and doctrine) Psa 82:6 I said, Ye are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High. Psa 82:7 Nevertheless ye shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes Psa 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; For thou shalt inherit all the nations. The salvation of the world begins with nations. The salvation of nations involves government(ruler gods) and people(ruled gods). The state of the world we are in right now is because the governments of this world have been corrupted by Sin. Sin is not moral failing or disobedient to a “super unseen being”. Sin occurs when a god among gods rises to the helm or become supreme leader/father in the body of sin(government). Isa 14:13 And thou saidst in thy heart, I will ascend into heaven(realm of authority and power), I will exalt my throne above the stars of God(elect); and I will sit upon the mount of congregation(peak of power/government), in the uttermost parts of the north(constitution); Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds(witnesses); I will make myself like the Most High(the supreme god among gods). Thus salvation involves not a super and unseen being living inside of individuals or a religious temple/church. Salvation of nations, hence the world, comes about through the deconstruction (tearing down) and reconstruction of man’s government(the temple) in the IMAGE of God(?) - religion has falsely defined or theorise this image. Jhn 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. This temple is where you find the devil(your supreme ruler) at the peak of power. Mat 4:5 Then the devil taketh him into the holy city; and he set him on the pinnacle of the temple, The Abrahamic religion (the three frogs) are the cause of blindness - blind leading the blind. If they continue their narrative(in the absent of light) , nations will continue the course towards “hell fire”, on their account Truth is, that’s the trajectory the world/nations is heading. And no super being will one day come from the sky to save you or you suddenly possess the ability to defy the law of gravity - religious BS.
Sir, you have Different view of Christianity, Christ, God and anything else even SALVATION and GOSPEL SO YOU ARENO MORE CHRISTIAN AND YOU ARE OK WITH HOMOSEXUALITY
The amount of ignorance that have been saying is disgusting. You have to be a basic reformed guy. Go a get some serious knowledge of the Christian faith my G.
The single big story, expressed through a photomosaic kind of work. Each little piece is a story in itself; each contributes to the whole larger story.
This is really exciting. I slowly get my head around that the kingdom Jesus speaks of is in this world. Through us as conduits of God’s will. Salvation is not in the next world, it’s here when heaven and earth come together. This is a message of hope, not of hopelessness
This is very well put. Thank you!
The Scriptures are like a circle. Genesis to Revelation Revelation to Genesis. Amen and Amen ❤️ Great teaching Mr. Wright. Thank You
I like to think of prayer as a temple as well, where heaven and earth meet. My heart and God’s heart. ❤
Liz, that is beautiful! Thank you for sharing.
--NTW Online Team
May the Lord bless you, the series is great.
Glad to hear you're enjoying it!
Thank you Dr Wright 🙏
Hallelujah! Glory to God. Thine Kingdom O’ Lord come on Earth as it is in Heaven sums it up.
Thank you Thomas, because you have made it easier to understand or grasp the word and the truth.
Wow…this is so helpful and clear. Pulls so much together. Thank you for this valuable series.
Hi Thomas, Thank you for teaching us. I am eagerly waiting for these messages about Salvation.
The Easter Vigil (Saturday evening before Easter) we hear “Salvation History” through selected readings from Genesis, Exodus, etc all the way to the Resurrection account. It conveys what Dr. Wright is saying here.
Thank you for the reminder about the key role of Abraham. We need to study him more to understand the larger picture.
Thank you! I love the Lord, his word and the work in his kingdom so much more because of you and your teachings, dear brother.
Wow. Very timely
I have walked with Jesus for almost 50 years having accepted my salvation as a teenager. Every day has been majestic in one way or another but there have been some watershed moments along the way. Encountering N T Wright's perspectives on what the New Covenant is about is one of those moments. Thank you Tom.
my man , always supporting you, from mexico. your an og.
For we know that God works all good things through those who love Him who are called according to His purpose. Rom.8:28
Thank you for this videos, Tom! May God bless your ministry. We need a Translation of History and Escathology as soons as possible here in Brazil!
Thanks so much for your encouraging words! While we don't handle publications at N.T. Wright Online, part one of our online course based on History and Eschatology is available now and part two is in post-production and coming soon at www.admirato.org
You can also view our courses in Brasilian Portuguese here: www.ntwrightonline.org/portfolio-items/bem-vindo-ao-n-t-wright-online-brasil/
Amen
YHWH through salvation is saving his creation Amen Hallelujah
💙✝️Genesis 12:3 is expressed through the deeds 💙 shown in Matthew 25:31-46✝️💙
How come only three of the ten videos are available? I found the first three so helpful and I would like to watch the rest.
This series just started a few weeks ago, there’s a new video each week. 😊 Episode 4 will be available Monday, I think. So good, right?! It’s hard to wait for the next one.
Stay tuned for a new episode every Monday!
God bless you Mr. Wright. I wonder if there is any venue, any preferred connecting point that you would engage with someone who is faithfully watching and learning from your videos. I realize that you can't talk to everyone, but I think I have something to say ~> into your beautifully constructed theology, that you would be very interested in. If there is any forum for communicating with you, could you please let me know?
We are happy to provide an online space where we discuss Professor Wright's free online courses and other topics of interest here: www.admirato.org/products/communities/freestudyhall
Admirato.org is the new home of N.T. Wright Online where we welcome discussion and feedback. We hope to see you there!
Thank you so much. :)@@NTWrightOnline
Please explain John 14 where I am you may be also etc.
We appreciate your question, a lot could be said! My reflection on this verse is that it speaks to the promise of God's abiding presence, assuring us that we find our dwelling with God. I am reminded of the beautiful vision in Rev. 21:3 where God comes to dwell with humans. "He will dwell with them, and they will be his people, and God himself will be with them and will be their God." What are your thoughts?
Charleen--N.T. Wright Online
I like NT's phrase: 'heaven and earth come together'. But I think he's missed the most obvious description of this in Genesis 1 itself. Like Francis Schaeffer does in his Genesis in Space and Time, Tom seems to regard the days as in themselves nugatory. But we know that all scripture has purpose, and a major structuring device as are the days in Genesis 1 has to contain instruction, as per Paul's statement about scripture In 2 Timothy 3.
So, what instruction could the days give?
Most obviously to me is that they place the creation in history and attach it to our 'life-world'. The days are defined (calibrated) as normal days (about which no amount of squirming can avoid). God's tempo of action is the same as our tempo of action: he has, in so creating, entered the history of those who will bear his image and underwritten the creation of his, as truly made (not imaginary or an abstraction) and made in terms of the joint interaction of God's wisdom (Prov 3:19, 20) and its material. God is not a gnostic!
This is the first of the great links between God's domain and the domain of his creatures-in-his-image; it sets the stage/makes the space for our communion with God in the real physical terms of the creation (and thus there has to be a real physical trace of God's real action in real days in our biosphere, or we have platonized the creation! and impersonalized it).
The days show us creation in terms of a dependency structure in the events of each successive day, building to a climax. The dependency structure is not only physical, with energy -- light -- being first made, but theological at many levels.
They also show creation by power: God's word has real effect and material consequences. There is no barrier between God's 'spiritual' ontology and his material creation - our material world and embodied being. He needs no intermediaries to create, nor does he bury his power in the on-going process of the creation, merging himself into the creation as theistic evolution must imply. And neither is he deism's (or Aristotle's) distant and perhaps impersonal 'god'. Again, the grounding of his domain linking with our domain is made.
God's words in history show a rational causality at work. Similar to an engineer today: first a device is brought together in thought, then it is made: only we use intermediate material and mental processes. God doesn't. God's rational causality again places his creation in the real world, unlike the a-historical fantasies of either paganism in its irrational causality or modern materialism.
The creation account (description) finally is God acting as he does throughout scripture: in history by concrete historical acts, events and causes. It creates the context for the theophanies, for the prophets, for the incarnation and is the obvious 'bookend' to which Revelation is the counterpart.
Indeed, in the creation account itself we see the context at work: in Genesis 3:8 God comes to find Adam and Eve, to be in fellowship with them, but sees they have chosen 'not-god' over God at the tree. Alas! However, God will not be frustrated in bringing the final outcome he wants: thus the New Creation, as Tom so eloquently puts it.
Days! God present and active in our history from the get-go; really, tangibly, concretely!
I understand that the Bible is pretty silent on what happens to you between death and the New Creation. What about Jesus’ teaching on Gehenna/ Hell. He seems to talk quite a bit about that. Will those going there only experience that fire after the New Creation?
Mr Wright we have thousands of temples made by human hands where God does not dwell, whether they are Roman Catholics, Anglicans, Presbyterians, Methodists, and a long etcetera. And God does not dwell, not because he is not ubiquitous, but because he is not interested in sanctuaries, nor does he demand them, since he does not need them because he is omnipresent. What Yahweh really wants is for us as his children to be the temple where God lives. Obstinacy for supposedly sacred buildings leads us to spiritual and economic misery, to an ultimately failed prior pact.
The premise that god(super being) lives in people(believers) or “within you”(individuals)is not true or is false.
Jhn 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your LAW, I said, Ye are gods?
The characteristics of gods are our free will(sovereign) and capacity for judgment.
Psa 82:1 A Psalm of Asaph. God standeth in the congregation of God(government); He judgeth among the gods.
A god among gods who rises above gods becomes the supreme ruler, whose word is almighty - the word is God(John 1:1)
If you can’t get this right then the whole premise of Christian salvation of the world and nations, plus their biblical discourse, will be all wrong or false(giving rise to a false gospel and doctrine)
Psa 82:6 I said, Ye are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High.
Psa 82:7 Nevertheless ye shall die like men, And fall like one of the princes
Psa 82:8 Arise, O God, judge the earth; For thou shalt inherit all the nations.
The salvation of the world begins with nations. The salvation of nations involves government(ruler gods) and people(ruled gods).
The state of the world we are in right now is because the governments of this world have been corrupted by Sin. Sin is not moral failing or disobedient to a “super unseen being”. Sin occurs when a god among gods rises to the helm or become supreme leader/father in the body of sin(government).
Isa 14:13 And thou saidst in thy heart, I will ascend into heaven(realm of authority and power), I will exalt my throne above the stars of God(elect); and I will sit upon the mount of congregation(peak of power/government), in the uttermost parts of the north(constitution);
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds(witnesses); I will make myself like the Most High(the supreme god among gods).
Thus salvation involves not a super and unseen being living inside of individuals or a religious temple/church.
Salvation of nations, hence the world, comes about through the deconstruction (tearing down) and reconstruction of man’s government(the temple) in the IMAGE of God(?) - religion has falsely defined or theorise this image.
Jhn 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.
This temple is where you find the devil(your supreme ruler) at the peak of power.
Mat 4:5 Then the devil taketh him into the holy city; and he set him on the pinnacle of the temple,
The Abrahamic religion (the three frogs) are the cause of blindness - blind leading the blind.
If they continue their narrative(in the absent of light) , nations will continue the course towards “hell fire”, on their account
Truth is, that’s the trajectory the world/nations is heading. And no super being will one day come from the sky to save you or you suddenly possess the ability to defy the law of gravity - religious BS.
Sir, you have Different view of Christianity, Christ, God and anything else even SALVATION and GOSPEL SO YOU ARENO MORE CHRISTIAN AND YOU ARE OK WITH HOMOSEXUALITY
The amount of ignorance that have been saying is disgusting. You have to be a basic reformed guy. Go a get some serious knowledge of the Christian faith my G.
Amazing how understanding comes. Thank you for helping me to understand Salvation at its essence. 🩵🙏🏻🕊
The single big story, expressed through a photomosaic kind of work. Each little piece is a story in itself; each contributes to the whole larger story.
Great imagery of a 'photomosaic'!
@@NTWrightOnline I first heard it from Tim Mackie, from the BibleProject. Our Lord is Good, knitting is all together by His Spirit.