Fantastiv video my friend. I came across your channel from the 1920's New York baseball video. As someone new to baseball, I've always been interested in this period of the game.
I love this whole series of videos, and that is although I own Ken Burns' Baseball documentary on DVD and have seen it numerous times. So I have had my fair share of Baseball history, but these videis are still special.
To me personally 1990-1994 baseball was just great. Being 10 years old and seeing the Reds win the title and getting into collecting baseball cards. Baseball still had the old guard like Nolan Ryan and Ripken closing in on the streak along with new superstars rising each and every year. Frank Thomas,Bagwell,Piazza,Biggio...etc. Its sad how the steroid era ruined some of sports greatest records,mainly the single season hr record. No one can come close to 73 hrs unless they are juiced. Sosa,Mark and Bonds had one big problem,they were too good on whatever they were taking especially Sosa and Bonds. In the whole decade of the 80's i think only 1 or 2 players hit 50+ hrs,i know in 1989 when Cecil Fielder hit 51 and it was a big deal. Then Sosa hits 60+ for 4 or 5 seasons 😂. I remember when that story broke about the reporter finding the androwhatever that Mcgwire had in his locker and nobody cared. I blame baseball and the players union for not testing but then again the substances were banned by baseball and those players knew it. Ppl say steroids or whatever they were using doesnt help with hitting but thats not true. It can give you many benefits from recovering quickly and more energy and just feeling better physically which can put them feeling better mentally. I dont think Bonds becomes the greatest offensive force and homerun king without enhancements,in fact looking at his career you can kinda see when and why he started cheating. Can you blame someone drinking from the fountain of youth? Alot of us would of done the same thing and so would alot of former players from different eras. It is a shame how baseball ruined some of its best records. As a Ken Griffey Jr fan he was always better than Bonds and im glad ppl realize Griffeys greatness and being clean. Ill never forget Bagwell showing up one season looking jacked😂. Many players cheated but only 3 really screwed everything up😂 Bonds,Mcgwire and Sosa.
I do not have any cards worth much from MLB but I do have an NBA rookie Lamar Odem with the LA Kings after his first year a final print end of season card from Topps that is worth $30 -- $35 of all the cards I have. Yes it is in a card sleeve and is nearly new. That and a 1991 Huston Astros world series special set that has the guy Casey Candel who used to have the MLB record for shortest homer in MLB modern history. during the regular season, he ran so fast for that homer because the ball just cleared the then brand new team Arizona Diamondbacks wall bouncing on front edge of padded wall to hop over he feared it would not be counted as a homerun so he did one of the fastest homerun around the bases.
23:05 "Briefly, the Yankees were 'America's Team.'" I would disagree with this statement. If any team fell into that category, it would be the Mets. The Mets were the first sports team to play in New York after 9/11. In that game, the Mets' Mike Piazza hit a home run late in the game to beat the Braves. It was that home run that helped NYC begin to recover from the attacks. Even the Yankee's A-Rod called it one of the most memorable and important home runs he ever saw. ruclips.net/video/olaebjhnFuE/видео.html
Griffey Jr. is the standard. He would have been even more larger than life amazing if not for the cheaters. The guy would watch Jane Fonda workouts in the off season to get in shape. And still kept up with these chumps. By the way I have totally enjoyed this whole series, I started at lecture 3 or 4 a couple days ago. Well done.
Thanks for the compliment. I saw Ken Griffey Jr. play for the San Bernardino Spirt (Class A ball) in 1988. It was evident to everybody who saw him during his short minor league career that he was destined for greatness. The next year he broke in with the Mariners at the age of 19. Before injuries started to take their toll in 2002, he was on a pace to easily break Hank Aaron's mark of 755 homeruns. Great ballplayer. Such positive energy.
@@thebaseballprofessor I once read a prospective of how many home runs Ken might have have hit if he had used to recover from injuries alone. And accounting for a few more each season just from comparing him to Bonds. It was around 900. That said... I remember that 1987 McGwire card well... I was in the 5th grade... and he had 49 with that skinny frame.. in his 1st full season.
First off, the steroid era ended by the start of 2005 when testing began. From 2005 to 2010, HRs and offense didn't really slow down, throwing doubt on how much steroids effected the game league wide. In reality it was about, at most about a dozen sluggers who really benefitted and 3 specifically broke offensive records that pissed alot of sportswriters off. No one cared about steroids during the 90s tho, not the MLB, not fans, not media,.....Given how widespread this indifference was, I'm not gonna retroactively Scarlet letter players from this time period who really weren't breaking any rules.
Fans and sportswriters showed very little concern about steroids during the 1990s. Androstenedione was an over the counter supplement from the 1990s to the early aughts. I dislike sanctimoniousness on the topic of steroids in baseball but I do believe Bonds and Clemens and others are paying a price for not being truthful with the US government.
@@thebaseballprofessor The fact the US government were trying to put two alltime greats in federal prison was the height of ridiculousness. I didn't like the way sportswriters whipped up hysteria and moralized the issue (a decade after the fact) that it caused writers to withhold votes for players due to rumors about back acne and the like.
I have a statement to make about steroids. How many never got caught. Think on that look at the longevity of many players. How did this happen when many had injuries that should have ended there careers. Food for thought
I don't want known juicers, the "poster boys" so to speak in the MLB HOF. I just don't. I'm ok with them getting in their perspective teams HOF (for example if Canseco or McWire go the A's HOF). That's how I feel about it.
The people on Selection committee Conspired to keep McGuire out of the HOF even if the team he was on does make it in they will never let in McGuire. This is mainly because he fully admitted to the use of Steroids during his home run record unlike the others, a Wrong Wrong idea that some not just in record books but like Berry Bonds or Canseco are in HOF for votes and that is becuse they denied using despite getting caught. If they are letting on some of the PED players they need to let in all of them. What McGuire did was Expose GNC for selling Steroids and later why a number of the GNC stores failed in 2000's and 2010's was due to either the product did not work was trash/worked very poorly, was a band non PED substance or was an actual PED of some kind hidden behind a poor product/buy two parts A&B to make a PED out of even after the McGuire incident GNC kept pushing the products, why most of the GNC failed was due to these products.
Get your point, but you're basically saying the good liars are okay while the bad liars should be punished. Barry Bonds is a poster boy. But with or without them, he's a HOFer. In the conversation for top 5 all time. Even before the PEDs.
@@TheBatugan77 No, I may not have expressed my thought clearly. I mean if we KNOW for sure. Like, if there's only doubt, then innocent until proven guilty. But we KNOW Bonds, Clemons, Palmero, etc. (and all the guys we KNOW for sure). I agree that Bonds was arguably a HOF caliber player even before he juiced up, but I don't think he breaks the HR records without it. I'll compromise (as if I had some authority lol) and put him in as a Pirate player and only use those numbers as reference.
@@someguy7222 I'm not a big Bonds fan. But he's a 500-500 guy (SB/HR), the only one. He was a top five all-timer by the time he got to the Giants... imho. I do agree his numbers got cartoonish late in his career.
Griffey was better than Bonds. Griffey could do anything Bonds could and had more power. How many times did Bonds hit 50+ HR without roids? And Griffey could throw out Sid Bream.
With David Ortiz now in the hall of fame... sure seems like all these steroid greats, like bond McGuire Clemens, should get in too... Ortiz was listed in that Mitchell report
@@thebaseballprofessor as someone who grew up thru the whole steroid era, graduated in 07, i sure hope that happens, these were the stars that everyone looked up too
@@j.b.1854 They're also the players (and steroid use in general) that made some us lose interest in baseball for a longtime. Some of us felt that the blatant steroid use ruined the game's integrity and believability.
Steroids . I think 1 thing is for SURE ! The com's, [ Bud ] , knew , the team owners knew , a lot of mangers knew , a lot of the trainers knew & the ball players knew ? BUT, the players paid the price for ALL . Bud , went into the HOF , Joe Torre went into the HOF , the Yankees with the MOST players [ NAMED ] in these reports won titles ? And some how Jeter never was named , while playing with a bunch of these players went into the HOF ? While others like Sosa & Big Mac did help save this game , after the 1994 - 95 strike seasons , along with others took the fall ? In fact just as MANY pitchers would be named as the hitters , SO , was it not still a fair trade off ? After all Cobb , Ruth & many others never played ALL the best [ BLACK ] players . Most times never had to face RELIEF pitchers in the 6th , 7th , 8th OR 9th innings or left VRS left , righty VRS righty late & had rules changed to help out there stats also ? So , do we BAN them form the HOF , then ?
I think Big Mac might be in the HOF if he had testified differently before Congress in 2005. The pubic and sportswriters did not like that Rafael Palmeiro tested postive after his testimony or that Clemens continued a pattern of denial after strong evidence emerged about his PED use. Here's the counterfactual I propose. Mcguire testifies on his own behalf (refuses to name others) and speaks candidly about his relationship to PEDs (I used them to recover from injuries, I used over-the-counter supplements, I benefitted from a drug that was available and widely used in my profession). He always made the point that steroids don't hit homeruns and I agree. It's hard to say what his numbers would've been without PEDs, but he was clearly a special player and as you point out, many others are in the HOF who used. The 2005 congressional hearing irreparably damaged his brand. Different testimony in 2005, especially if he had told the truth while his colleagues did not, might've changed the attitudes of certain sportswriters who would have to acknowledge his legendary skill and moral character for coming clean about something everyone did and knew others were doing. The public continues to hate Bonds and Clemens because they're jerks and they still won't speak truthfully.
Fantastiv video my friend. I came across your channel from the 1920's New York baseball video. As someone new to baseball, I've always been interested in this period of the game.
I attended AAA Denver Bears baseball in 1980. They drew great crowds at Mile High. I was not surprised the fans went crazy for MLB.
I love this whole series of videos, and that is although I own Ken Burns' Baseball documentary on DVD and have seen it numerous times. So I have had my fair share of Baseball history, but these videis are still special.
Best baseball era EVER!!❤
To me personally 1990-1994 baseball was just great. Being 10 years old and seeing the Reds win the title and getting into collecting baseball cards. Baseball still had the old guard like Nolan Ryan and Ripken closing in on the streak along with new superstars rising each and every year. Frank Thomas,Bagwell,Piazza,Biggio...etc. Its sad how the steroid era ruined some of sports greatest records,mainly the single season hr record. No one can come close to 73 hrs unless they are juiced. Sosa,Mark and Bonds had one big problem,they were too good on whatever they were taking especially Sosa and Bonds. In the whole decade of the 80's i think only 1 or 2 players hit 50+ hrs,i know in 1989 when Cecil Fielder hit 51 and it was a big deal. Then Sosa hits 60+ for 4 or 5 seasons 😂. I remember when that story broke about the reporter finding the androwhatever that Mcgwire had in his locker and nobody cared. I blame baseball and the players union for not testing but then again the substances were banned by baseball and those players knew it. Ppl say steroids or whatever they were using doesnt help with hitting but thats not true. It can give you many benefits from recovering quickly and more energy and just feeling better physically which can put them feeling better mentally. I dont think Bonds becomes the greatest offensive force and homerun king without enhancements,in fact looking at his career you can kinda see when and why he started cheating. Can you blame someone drinking from the fountain of youth? Alot of us would of done the same thing and so would alot of former players from different eras. It is a shame how baseball ruined some of its best records. As a Ken Griffey Jr fan he was always better than Bonds and im glad ppl realize Griffeys greatness and being clean. Ill never forget Bagwell showing up one season looking jacked😂. Many players cheated but only 3 really screwed everything up😂 Bonds,Mcgwire and Sosa.
Both Randy Johnson and Pedro Martinez played with the Montreal Expos. We had the best team in 1994.
Two things I am thrilled are gone... Cookie cutter stadiums and astroturf.
Cool
Never thought I'd see a video about baseball between 1992 and 2007 with not one word about either the Atlanta Braves or Derek Jeter.
Why, and why??
I do not have any cards worth much from MLB but I do have an NBA rookie Lamar Odem with the LA Kings after his first year a final print end of season card from Topps that is worth $30 -- $35 of all the cards I have. Yes it is in a card sleeve and is nearly new. That and a 1991 Huston Astros world series special set that has the guy Casey Candel who used to have the MLB record for shortest homer in MLB modern history. during the regular season, he ran so fast for that homer because the ball just cleared the then brand new team Arizona Diamondbacks wall bouncing on front edge of padded wall to hop over he feared it would not be counted as a homerun so he did one of the fastest homerun around the bases.
23:05 "Briefly, the Yankees were 'America's Team.'" I would disagree with this statement. If any team fell into that category, it would be the Mets. The Mets were the first sports team to play in New York after 9/11. In that game, the Mets' Mike Piazza hit a home run late in the game to beat the Braves. It was that home run that helped NYC begin to recover from the attacks. Even the Yankee's A-Rod called it one of the most memorable and important home runs he ever saw. ruclips.net/video/olaebjhnFuE/видео.html
Griffey Jr. is the standard. He would have been even more larger than life amazing if not for the cheaters. The guy would watch Jane Fonda workouts in the off season to get in shape. And still kept up with these chumps. By the way I have totally enjoyed this whole series, I started at lecture 3 or 4 a couple days ago. Well done.
Thanks for the compliment. I saw Ken Griffey Jr. play for the San Bernardino Spirt (Class A ball) in 1988. It was evident to everybody who saw him during his short minor league career that he was destined for greatness. The next year he broke in with the Mariners at the age of 19. Before injuries started to take their toll in 2002, he was on a pace to easily break Hank Aaron's mark of 755 homeruns. Great ballplayer. Such positive energy.
@@thebaseballprofessor I once read a prospective of how many home runs Ken might have have hit if he had used to recover from injuries alone. And accounting for a few more each season just from comparing him to Bonds. It was around 900. That said... I remember that 1987 McGwire card well... I was in the 5th grade... and he had 49 with that skinny frame.. in his 1st full season.
I can see the next generation of stadiums being mandated to have retractable roofs, especially in northern colder cities.
First off, the steroid era ended by the start of 2005 when testing began.
From 2005 to 2010, HRs and offense didn't really slow down, throwing doubt on how much steroids effected the game league wide.
In reality it was about, at most about a dozen sluggers who really benefitted and 3 specifically broke offensive records that pissed alot of sportswriters off.
No one cared about steroids during the 90s tho, not the MLB, not fans, not media,.....Given how widespread this indifference was, I'm not gonna retroactively Scarlet letter players from this time period who really weren't breaking any rules.
Fans and sportswriters showed very little concern about steroids during the 1990s. Androstenedione was an over the counter supplement from the 1990s to the early aughts. I dislike sanctimoniousness on the topic of steroids in baseball but I do believe Bonds and Clemens and others are paying a price for not being truthful with the US government.
@@thebaseballprofessor The fact the US government were trying to put two alltime greats in federal prison was the height of ridiculousness.
I didn't like the way sportswriters whipped up hysteria and moralized the issue (a decade after the fact) that it caused writers to withhold votes for players due to rumors about back acne and the like.
I have a statement to make about steroids. How many never got caught. Think on that look at the longevity of many players. How did this happen when many had injuries that should have ended there careers. Food for thought
Put the juicers in the Hall Of Fame
Well, some of them. Maybe not all of banished juicers
I don't want known juicers, the "poster boys" so to speak in the MLB HOF. I just don't. I'm ok with them getting in their perspective teams HOF (for example if Canseco or McWire go the A's HOF). That's how I feel about it.
The people on Selection committee Conspired to keep McGuire out of the HOF even if the team he was on does make it in they will never let in McGuire. This is mainly because he fully admitted to the use of Steroids during his home run record unlike the others, a Wrong Wrong idea that some not just in record books but like Berry Bonds or Canseco are in HOF for votes and that is becuse they denied using despite getting caught. If they are letting on some of the PED players they need to let in all of them. What McGuire did was Expose GNC for selling Steroids and later why a number of the GNC stores failed in 2000's and 2010's was due to either the product did not work was trash/worked very poorly, was a band non PED substance or was an actual PED of some kind hidden behind a poor product/buy two parts A&B to make a PED out of even after the McGuire incident GNC kept pushing the products, why most of the GNC failed was due to these products.
Get your point, but you're basically saying the good liars are okay while the bad liars should be punished. Barry Bonds is a poster boy. But with or without them, he's a HOFer. In the conversation for top 5 all time. Even before the PEDs.
@@TheBatugan77 No, I may not have expressed my thought clearly. I mean if we KNOW for sure. Like, if there's only doubt, then innocent until proven guilty. But we KNOW Bonds, Clemons, Palmero, etc. (and all the guys we KNOW for sure). I agree that Bonds was arguably a HOF caliber player even before he juiced up, but I don't think he breaks the HR records without it. I'll compromise (as if I had some authority lol) and put him in as a Pirate player and only use those numbers as reference.
@@someguy7222 I'm not a big Bonds fan. But he's a 500-500 guy (SB/HR), the only one. He was a top five all-timer by the time he got to the Giants... imho. I do agree his numbers got cartoonish late in his career.
Even if they're 2 of the greatest players ever?
Griffey was better than Bonds. Griffey could do anything Bonds could and had more power. How many times did Bonds hit 50+ HR without roids? And Griffey could throw out Sid Bream.
With David Ortiz now in the hall of fame... sure seems like all these steroid greats, like bond McGuire Clemens, should get in too... Ortiz was listed in that Mitchell report
Bonds, McGuire, and Clemens may well be inducted into the HOF thanks to the Veterans Committee.
@@thebaseballprofessor as someone who grew up thru the whole steroid era, graduated in 07, i sure hope that happens, these were the stars that everyone looked up too
Also nice work on these “lectures”, don’t feel like lectures I had to endure in school.. would have loved Baseball History Class!
Its McGwire not McGuire. How the hell do so many people misspell his name?
@@j.b.1854 They're also the players (and steroid use in general) that made some us lose interest in baseball for a longtime. Some of us felt that the blatant steroid use ruined the game's integrity and believability.
Steroids . I think 1 thing is for SURE ! The com's, [ Bud ] , knew , the team owners knew , a lot of mangers knew , a lot of the trainers knew & the ball players knew ? BUT, the players paid the price for ALL . Bud , went into the HOF , Joe Torre went into the HOF , the Yankees with the MOST players [ NAMED ] in these reports won titles ? And some how Jeter never was named , while playing with a bunch of these players went into the HOF ? While others like Sosa & Big Mac did help save this game , after the 1994 - 95 strike seasons , along with others took the fall ? In fact just as MANY pitchers would be named as the hitters , SO , was it not still a fair trade off ? After all Cobb , Ruth & many others never played ALL the best [ BLACK ] players . Most times never had to face RELIEF pitchers in the 6th , 7th , 8th OR 9th innings or left VRS left , righty VRS righty late & had rules changed to help out there stats also ? So , do we BAN them form the HOF , then ?
I think Big Mac might be in the HOF if he had testified differently before Congress in 2005. The pubic and sportswriters did not like that Rafael Palmeiro tested postive after his testimony or that Clemens continued a pattern of denial after strong evidence emerged about his PED use. Here's the counterfactual I propose. Mcguire testifies on his own behalf (refuses to name others) and speaks candidly about his relationship to PEDs (I used them to recover from injuries, I used over-the-counter supplements, I benefitted from a drug that was available and widely used in my profession). He always made the point that steroids don't hit homeruns and I agree. It's hard to say what his numbers would've been without PEDs, but he was clearly a special player and as you point out, many others are in the HOF who used. The 2005 congressional hearing irreparably damaged his brand. Different testimony in 2005, especially if he had told the truth while his colleagues did not, might've changed the attitudes of certain sportswriters who would have to acknowledge his legendary skill and moral character for coming clean about something everyone did and knew others were doing. The public continues to hate Bonds and Clemens because they're jerks and they still won't speak truthfully.