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For those who don’t understand: Kratos was weaken because he breached into Valhalla with force. So Valhalla took away his physical strength as a punishment. That’s why we start at lvl 1. And Valhalla was limiting Kratos abilities to force him to use different strategies, so he can master his skill without relying his brute force and the strategies he used to. That also apply to the player to encourage us to try different play styles. Therefore he is not weak, he was only weaken while he was in Valhalla.
Its crazy that tyr basically wanted to be training partner for kratos in order for him to not only overcome his last mental barriers to becoming a god again but also get stronger 💀
Valhalla isnt about strength. Each enemy represents something to kratos, like guilt, anger, disappointment, ect. He has to mentally overcome these things to defeat his opponents in valhalla.
Y'all are forgetting that tyr will admit kratos is stronger when he defeats him. Just because he can catch the punch doesn't mean kratos is weak. The point of the battle is to spar, the intent isn't to kill tyr, so when kratos has him down, he's not going to punch with full force
hell Tyr invited him to Valhalla to help Kratos. To do what even Kratos's patheon couldn't do. help him find peace within himself to make him even better than before.
You do realize every god of war game you start out weak. Some you retained previous strength then gets taken away. Gow 2 Zeus took your powers, gow 3 the damned ate your powers away, fimbulwinter eroded your powers. This shouldn’t be the case for him as weak, he adapts and overcomes
You start god of war 3 at max power, hence allowing Kratos to defeat one of if not the most powerful Olympian god at the time: Poseidon. Its only when you fall into the river of styx do you lose your powers and become weak again
Dont forget PSP titles too Ghost of Sparta happens after 1 but hes at lv1 and different magic Chains i can forgive because Ascension didnt exist back then so one could say thats his fist journaey But then a different problem, why didnt Gow 1 started at max power too?
Kratos is weak 🤡 *Rips open doors to Valhalla with brute strength* *Breaks Valhalla saving mimir* *Over powers atlas the gaint that held up greece* This the type of dude to say doom slayer is stronger, I rest my point 🥱
@@EchoDragonHawk no one agrees with u kid, kratos killed Hades and crawled out of hell 3 times. doom slayer did the equivalent but kratos has done it over multiple mythologys and he has killed multiple gods with different ranges of power. Kratos is the ultimate warrior with the most combat experience. He also doesn't rely on guns like a bih
Valhala as I understand, was like a dream state, or a place within your mind. It has nothing to do with Kratos’s “weak” physical body. Kratos is much stronger than his younger self. That much was confirmed by many before. Kratos is not weak. But maybe his mind was, which he proved that he could make as strong as his body was, by the end.
based on how the enherjar worked in asgard i dont think you can even consider dying in Valhalla "death" . they returned to asgard immediately after "dying" and freya had to sever their connection to Valhalla for them to die think of it like this you get sent into the matrix and die but your body outside survives and you just go back to it immediately after dying . so he goes in and pretty much just gets knocked out then dropped off outside where he started it is more than capable of killing him from what we have seen but it didnt get the chance
maybe its because kratos didnt fight those foes in over a thousand years?, and also valhalla probably boosts those enemies to a point where kratos could struggle, he needs to overcome that struggle to come by, just like tyr powers up everytime kratos defeats him
and just because the fight improves his mental, does not mean it does not improve his physical strength, since old kratos basically has a free mind from valhalla, young kratos would struggle significantly
In reality, the enemies that Kratos faces (except Týr) come from his spirit, he sees them much stronger than when they were alive. on top of that, he has, for the most part, remorse for those who appear there, he sees himself as the monster. so it's a psychological blockage that Kratos has. everything happens in a “dream” where you only live thanks to Valhalla.
Like all Greek Gods, Kratos's magical power comes from Mount Olympus. So yes, he is weak in Scandinavia. Its like Superman without the yellow sun. Still he is formidable and defeated Heimdall, Thor and Baldur in rematches.
EXACTLY and that's why I believe Tyr trained Kratos for this reason-also, to expand Kratos' arsenal of abilities without relying on his bread & butter. Remember how Tyr could use magic/abilities from the Aztec, Greek & Japan? light, blood, darkness, ice, duplication, teleportation all these elements at his disposal. He created his own versions of those abilities using Norse incantation *exclusive to himself.* And so can Kratos.
did you miss the part where helios tried to blind kratos or telling him to step into the fires of olympus -_- he deserved it, all of the greek gods did
I'm glad someone finally acknowledged Magni and Modo being stronger in the dlc. When i fought Modi i died and was like uh what lol i noticed new moves as well
Valhalla isn't to make Kratos a better fighter, Tyr wanted Kratos to take his place as God of War. The island itself took him back to basics as well game mechanic and we shouldn't look to much into that in all honesty, at least Santa Monica is one of the few studios to explain why heros in sequels start off as "weaker". Tyr invited Kratos to Valhalla to allow Kratos to face his inner demons, sins, past and ultimately his younger self and fully accept his past actions and officially reclaim his throne as a God. That's why we only see Helios, that's the one Greek God Kratos truly regrets killing given how he helped him as Kratos himself has said. Valhalla didn't make Kratos weak, it will ultimately make him stronger now that he doesn't have anything holding him back or weighing on his mind. When we see Kratos next, it will be an entirely brand new Kratos one who is strong in mind and body, while wise from learning from his mistakes
Kratos kicked the door into Valhalla, only makes sense for it to make you weaker. *Now you have to think because muscle can’t solve every problem!* Gotta love Santa Monica!!
Kratos is not invincible or invulnerable, he can be killed and as have witnessed in the first games, but his thing is it's nearly impossible for him to stay dead after being killed, as he will do everything to come back from the afterlife/underworld, especially if Atreus's life and safety is at question, and imo each time he comes back from death he will be stronger than he was before.
Okay , why Athena wasn't in Valahala? Kratos felt guilt and remorse after killing her . Also, I don't think Kratos felt anything when he killed Helios Why Demios wasn't in Valahala? Kratos definitely blame himself for his brother's death Why The Last Spartan wasn't in Valahala? Kratos literally killed him and The Last Spartan last words for Kratos to avenage Sparta , Kratos must have felt terrible after killing his most loyal servent Why wasn't Kratos Mother in Valahala? Although Kratos indirectly killed her but that still counts and Kratos was heart broken after his mother not to mention his greek family and Pandora
Its still possible to lose even if you are better or stronger than your opponent, for a number of different reasons. Kratos is definitely the more powerful warrior, but Tyr is kind of like a mentor to Kratos here, and shows a level of mastery over self that Kratos is still working towards.
I don't believe Kratos is weak and I have a theory on why he is so ridiculously strong We all know the blades of Chaos activated his demigod powers when he opened Pandora's box he absorbed the power of hope, killed Ares then that power went dormant after being denied release from his nightmares so between losing his mother, Deimos being betrayed by Zeus and all of Sparta getting destroyed by him as a F you to Kratos he was pushed into constant Spartan Rage, which possibly increased his base level strength ,when he went to war with Olympus after he killed all the gods he impaled himself with the blade released hope into what was left of the Greek world but transferred his war god powers back into himself not all of them just the physical powers strength stamina age empowerment and all Corey Barlog stated Norse Kratos could beat Greek Kratos and his main power being his enormous strength on why he was weak in Valhalla he breached the wrong way and was penalized for it he went back to normal when the Valkyries opened the gate for him.
If Kratos viewed his enemy in a very strong and dangerous way, then the enemies will get stronger in Valhalla. Wich is why valhalla isn't about strength it's about the mentality and strategi. Wich is why Sigrun said this when i was killed by Magni "try to remember the fact that you beat the sons of Thor in real life" And "The sons of Thor are really strong in Valhalla". And saying that Kratos is weaker than Týr by a dialogue after the mistake that you as the player made dosen't help either. Some dialogue was purely made for gameplay purposes only. If every dialogue is canon in a video game then Atreus asking Kratos what he is doing, when I'M doing combos and such when there is no enemies around, should be taken as canon aswell?.
This isn't EXACTLY correct.In the books odin viewed Are's as a far superior god of war as compared to tyr(who might I add was bested by kratos himself)
@@manojshriramkumar3775In GoW 1 Novel and Game its pretty obvious that Ares would just step on Tyr. Just as its obvious that the Greek Gods in general are way more devine and powerful than the Aesir/Vanir tribes
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I made an edit to showcase what it would be like to have TC Carson and Christopher Judge in the same scene together. Go check it out: ruclips.net/video/9RDDdmR62ag/видео.html
For those who don’t understand:
Kratos was weaken because he breached into Valhalla with force. So Valhalla took away his physical strength as a punishment. That’s why we start at lvl 1. And Valhalla was limiting Kratos abilities to force him to use different strategies, so he can master his skill without relying his brute force and the strategies he used to. That also apply to the player to encourage us to try different play styles.
Therefore he is not weak, he was only weaken while he was in Valhalla.
And I think the weapon challenges also are to get you to try something knew instead of using one weapon
@@cjmodmanboom8518 its written for the game tho.
@@paulbarry7760 Nuh uh
@@cjmodmanboom8518because they are combining gaming mechanics into the story.
it doesnt matter. His strength grows every second
Its crazy that tyr basically wanted to be training partner for kratos in order for him to not only overcome his last mental barriers to becoming a god again but also get stronger 💀
For real when I first played it I was like Bro tyr is way stronger than kratos when he took that punch
@@coachcarti1867thats horseshit
@@matrix.45 that was my first initial reaction like bro just stopped his punch like nothing
@@coachcarti1867 why would kratos want to kill tyr i dont understand they were basically sparring
@@matrix.45 I never said he wanted to kill him 😂
Valhalla isnt about strength. Each enemy represents something to kratos, like guilt, anger, disappointment, ect. He has to mentally overcome these things to defeat his opponents in valhalla.
Y'all are forgetting that tyr will admit kratos is stronger when he defeats him. Just because he can catch the punch doesn't mean kratos is weak. The point of the battle is to spar, the intent isn't to kill tyr, so when kratos has him down, he's not going to punch with full force
Not just Tyr both Sigrun and Mimir also admit is stronger
hell Tyr invited him to Valhalla to help Kratos. To do what even Kratos's patheon couldn't do. help him find peace within himself to make him even better than before.
You do realize every god of war game you start out weak. Some you retained previous strength then gets taken away. Gow 2 Zeus took your powers, gow 3 the damned ate your powers away, fimbulwinter eroded your powers. This shouldn’t be the case for him as weak, he adapts and overcomes
You start god of war 3 at max power, hence allowing Kratos to defeat one of if not the most powerful Olympian god at the time: Poseidon. Its only when you fall into the river of styx do you lose your powers and become weak again
Dont forget PSP titles too
Ghost of Sparta happens after 1 but hes at lv1 and different magic
Chains i can forgive because Ascension didnt exist back then so one could say thats his fist journaey
But then a different problem, why didnt Gow 1 started at max power too?
Kratos is weak 🤡
*Rips open doors to Valhalla with brute strength*
*Breaks Valhalla saving mimir*
*Over powers atlas the gaint that held up greece*
This the type of dude to say doom slayer is stronger, I rest my point 🥱
I’m a god of war fan and have watched countless scaling videos. and doom guy scales higher then kratos unfortunately so yea you’re off there bud.
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@@EchoDragonHawk no one agrees with u kid, kratos killed Hades and crawled out of hell 3 times. doom slayer did the equivalent but kratos has done it over multiple mythologys and he has killed multiple gods with different ranges of power. Kratos is the ultimate warrior with the most combat experience. He also doesn't rely on guns like a bih
With Valhalla they opened the gates for kratos to go to any mythology next. I think it'll either be Japan or Egypt.
probaly celtic myth because is nearere than japan or egypt
In the Fallen God comic he did go to Egypt for a short while. It would be amazing to see more of Egypt IN GAME this time
Id go for Egypt, Japan doesn’t nearly have as much monsters or gods that would match Kratos
He just told Freya he's staying.
@@tadrosse3786 Yeah if ever after egypt they could also tackle mesopotamian gods
Valhala as I understand, was like a dream state, or a place within your mind. It has nothing to do with Kratos’s “weak” physical body. Kratos is much stronger than his younger self. That much was confirmed by many before.
Kratos is not weak. But maybe his mind was, which he proved that he could make as strong as his body was, by the end.
weak? kratos would destroy anyone … clickbait much?
Yeah, kratos is weak. Plot armor help him
@@RhapsodiaRoscida Everyone has plot armor
based on how the enherjar worked in asgard i dont think you can even consider dying in Valhalla "death" . they returned to asgard immediately after "dying" and freya had to sever their connection to Valhalla for them to die
think of it like this
you get sent into the matrix and die but your body outside survives and you just go back to it immediately after dying . so he goes in and pretty much just gets knocked out then dropped off outside where he started
it is more than capable of killing him from what we have seen but it didnt get the chance
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maybe its because kratos didnt fight those foes in over a thousand years?, and also valhalla probably boosts those enemies to a point where kratos could struggle, he needs to overcome that struggle to come by, just like tyr powers up everytime kratos defeats him
and just because the fight improves his mental, does not mean it does not improve his physical strength, since old kratos basically has a free mind from valhalla, young kratos would struggle significantly
In reality, the enemies that Kratos faces (except Týr) come from his spirit, he sees them much stronger than when they were alive. on top of that, he has, for the most part, remorse for those who appear there, he sees himself as the monster. so it's a psychological blockage that Kratos has. everything happens in a “dream” where you only live thanks to Valhalla.
Like all Greek Gods, Kratos's magical power comes from Mount Olympus. So yes, he is weak in Scandinavia. Its like Superman without the yellow sun. Still he is formidable and defeated Heimdall, Thor and Baldur in rematches.
Exactly and this thing is not yet in the strange game.
Didn't the developers literally say he is stronger now than ever before ?
@@0Leonx0Yes, physically. He still would be even stronger if he still had his Greek powers.
Is there a way for him to harness the magic of these lands then?
EXACTLY and that's why I believe Tyr trained Kratos for this reason-also, to expand Kratos' arsenal of abilities without relying on his bread & butter.
Remember how Tyr could use magic/abilities from the Aztec, Greek & Japan? light, blood, darkness, ice, duplication, teleportation all these elements at his disposal.
He created his own versions of those abilities using Norse incantation *exclusive to himself.*
And so can Kratos.
Actually he doesn't die at all the Cannon event is that he fails when he gets the headaches
did you miss the part where helios tried to blind kratos or telling him to step into the fires of olympus -_-
he deserved it, all of the greek gods did
Exactly
I'm glad someone finally acknowledged Magni and Modo being stronger in the dlc. When i fought Modi i died and was like uh what lol i noticed new moves as well
Valhalla isn't to make Kratos a better fighter, Tyr wanted Kratos to take his place as God of War. The island itself took him back to basics as well game mechanic and we shouldn't look to much into that in all honesty, at least Santa Monica is one of the few studios to explain why heros in sequels start off as "weaker". Tyr invited Kratos to Valhalla to allow Kratos to face his inner demons, sins, past and ultimately his younger self and fully accept his past actions and officially reclaim his throne as a God. That's why we only see Helios, that's the one Greek God Kratos truly regrets killing given how he helped him as Kratos himself has said.
Valhalla didn't make Kratos weak, it will ultimately make him stronger now that he doesn't have anything holding him back or weighing on his mind. When we see Kratos next, it will be an entirely brand new Kratos one who is strong in mind and body, while wise from learning from his mistakes
True because with the armor set of the pat we got his strength stats go crazy higher
Old Kratos is more wiser and stronger then ever now after going through Vahalla. Far far from weak.
Valhalla is more about the mental journey, not so much the physical
The DLC would have been a cakewalk if I could have kept my stats and armor sets from the main story.
Abd, do you remember me from ur world record stream bro. I remember u read a lot of my comments and also i was first in ur stream.
Kratos kicked the door into Valhalla, only makes sense for it to make you weaker. *Now you have to think because muscle can’t solve every problem!* Gotta love Santa Monica!!
Hey could you make the intro a small video of its own or a RUclips short? It’s just really good is all
Kratos is not invincible or invulnerable, he can be killed and as have witnessed in the first games, but his thing is it's nearly impossible for him to stay dead after being killed, as he will do everything to come back from the afterlife/underworld, especially if Atreus's life and safety is at question, and imo each time he comes back from death he will be stronger than he was before.
The self discovery aspect of this dlc really resonates. Let go of ego. Always be growing and learning
Okay , why Athena wasn't in Valahala?
Kratos felt guilt and remorse after killing her . Also, I don't think Kratos felt anything when he killed Helios
Why Demios wasn't in Valahala?
Kratos definitely blame himself for his brother's death
Why The Last Spartan wasn't in Valahala?
Kratos literally killed him and The Last Spartan last words for Kratos to avenage Sparta , Kratos must have felt terrible after killing his most loyal servent
Why wasn't Kratos Mother in Valahala?
Although Kratos indirectly killed her but that still counts and Kratos was heart broken after his mother not to mention his greek family and Pandora
a weak god that defeated a whole pantheon
Its still possible to lose even if you are better or stronger than your opponent, for a number of different reasons. Kratos is definitely the more powerful warrior, but Tyr is kind of like a mentor to Kratos here, and shows a level of mastery over self that Kratos is still working towards.
Valhalla is just Kratos’s Silent Hill
I need him to go back to his home in God of War 4
I don't believe Kratos is weak and I have a theory on why he is so ridiculously strong
We all know the blades of Chaos activated his demigod powers when he opened Pandora's box he absorbed the power of hope, killed Ares then that power went dormant after being denied release from his nightmares so between losing his mother, Deimos being betrayed by Zeus and all of Sparta getting destroyed by him as a F you to Kratos he was pushed into constant Spartan Rage, which possibly increased his base level strength ,when he went to war with Olympus after he killed all the gods he impaled himself with the blade released hope into what was left of the Greek world but transferred his war god powers back into himself not all of them just the physical powers strength stamina age empowerment and all Corey Barlog stated Norse Kratos could beat Greek Kratos and his main power being his enormous strength on why he was weak in Valhalla he breached the wrong way and was penalized for it he went back to normal when the Valkyries opened the gate for him.
At this pointt you should sttop making theories bro
Eh the firs time he enters Valhalla yes. But the second time he enters Kratos mentions he is fine.
I use some of your videos on my TikTok to argue about God of war. I hope you don’t mind.
What is his intro music I just started watching his videos today and now the music is stuck in my head any help defeating the ear worm would be great
BTS - Black Swan
the man himself replied thanks! its much appreciated@@abdbay
No it didn’t only because he was in Valhalla but before he was strong before
If Kratos viewed his enemy in a very strong and dangerous way, then the enemies will get stronger in Valhalla. Wich is why valhalla isn't about strength it's about the mentality and strategi.
Wich is why Sigrun said this when i was killed by Magni "try to remember the fact that you beat the sons of Thor in real life" And "The sons of Thor are really strong in Valhalla".
And saying that Kratos is weaker than Týr by a dialogue after the mistake that you as the player made dosen't help either. Some dialogue was purely made for gameplay purposes only. If every dialogue is canon in a video game then Atreus asking Kratos what he is doing, when I'M doing combos and such when there is no enemies around, should be taken as canon aswell?.
I'm glad i'm not the only one who lost to tyr
Smh he fucking BROKE Valhalla
He is not weak....quit saying that shit already
Mimir said better FIGHTER, not stronger😂
He looks like Triple H from WWE.
Primordial power weakens a god temporarily... hmmm not even remotely close to proving kratos is weak.
Yo kratos is one of the most overpowered characters
Kratos is weak therefore all gods he killed is weak including odin
It's smart enough not to try and keep him there.
And kratos got weaker when ge step foot in vallhala that make his stat health and rage reset to level 1
*watching this vid makes kratos is weak*
I dont think greek enemies are stronger then the original one
Kratos is only continent level
What is the song used in the background? The humming
@@kratosandloki4309 thank you very much
Kratos ain’t weak we just bad at the game lmao 😂 the creatures aren’t stronger lol
guys is the game worth 30$ rn its on sale so is it fun I haven’t played a god of war in forever
Yes. Kratos is very well written as well as the other characters and the combat is extremely engaging
sweet
can i collab 🤣i love god of war
Sup
Mofo should go Israel 🇮🇱 😅😂
This isnt the real kratos. The real kratos died in greece
Tyr IS stronger than kratos or maybe equal, he is wayy older and been to many other realms
This isn't EXACTLY correct.In the books odin viewed Are's as a far superior god of war as compared to tyr(who might I add was bested by kratos himself)
Tyr states multiple times that Kratos is stronger than him
Shizo stuff like this is why this fandom has gone downward big time since 2018
@@manojshriramkumar3775In GoW 1 Novel and Game its pretty obvious that Ares would just step on Tyr.
Just as its obvious that the Greek Gods in general are way more devine and powerful than the Aesir/Vanir tribes