DON'T EVER CUT THROUGH THE BED! HERE'S WHY! - Fuel Pump
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DON'T EVER Cut through the bed of a truck to replace the fuel pump!
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Gas is 6 pounds per gallon so a 30 gallon tank could weigh 180 pounds plus the tank weight. I agree tho it's easier to drop the tank or even lift the bed on smaller beds
Great Job how much you charge ✌️
I did the access hatch through the bed floor and never regretted it. When its -20 degrees in the dead of winter and a couple feet of snow on the ground, you may just change your tune if you're stuck on the side of the road but you have a new replacement pump with you behind the seat for backup.
I cut a hole in my Silverado bed, never regretted it one bit. I put flat strips of metal around the edge with rivets and 8 screws holding the cut out piece in place. If I ever need to replace the fuel pump again, it will only take me about 15 minutes. So much easier! Just make sure you measure and cut the hole in the right place, which I did.
Every car should have a access panel for the fuel pump from the factory. I used a step drill bit in the corners and cut mine with tin snips. I wasn't brave enough to use angle grinder.
Every car should but they don't 😢
I used a Dremel tool and the little, reddish/brown cut-off wheels to cut through the floor on my Suburban. I went through almost a full pack of cut-off disks. BUT the good thing is, they are too shallow to cut through the wrong things.
Why not cut through the bed! They make vehicles that has excess to the fuel pump. Just make sure you do it right
Cutting a hole is perfectly fine, it makes little to no difference.
You can't with some models since it's through the reinforcing of the box which connects to the frame. Like my truck, your box will literally fold if you cut through the structural
@@jasonabbey5583 wats ur point
I have a 01 Super crew here in Michigan and I am jealous of the underside of that truck , mine looks like a war zone and ain’t no way in hell you could do that easy of a removal here in the rust belt. You would snap every bolt off. It’s a old truck I wouldn’t think twice about cutting a hole in the bed.
Sometimes in the rust belt, it’s so much easier on a beater truck to cut the bed and patch. Otherwise, the straps break, or the bolts break, or the bed is rusted in place. Most of the time the Bed liner is covering a rusted out floor anyway.
Yes but that's what cutting a big old hole into bad does it makes it a beater truck something you just want to throw away how you supposed to haul anything in it from there on not like you can just patch that big hole laying something over it all the time leak and then it'll be leaking right down on the gas tank if you're going to keep a vehicle for any amount of time do the service on it right don't half-ass stuff
Cut it to the size of a boat hatch 😂
It's always easier and faster to cut a hole in the floor, not to mention if it's an older vehicle you can create even more problems if you try to remove the tank. If you snap off or strip the bolts that hold the tank straps in you just gave yourself a long and painful repair job.
@@mikebaird6788 Even with basic fabrication skills, cutting a small (not big) access hole and then cutting a plate for same and installing it with good sealant would not be half-ass unless you don't know what you are doing.
Cutting a hole is so much easier. And you can put hinges and a latch and make a access panel.
If you don't have any substantial rust to deal with and the hoses are reasonably pliable, then dropping the tank isn't a big deal, but if you round out or break off a bolt, or break a hose you will probably wish you'd just cut the hole.
Yeah my buddy had an 87 Dodge Dakota 4cyl, I drilled a small hole so I can observe where I need to cut first. Patched with small screws after we were done. He lived in an area where you couldn't do any work on cars. Been 8 years, no issues.
I'm envious how easy that tank came out. In my '97 Ford Ranger, it was a huge PITA to get the tank out. Even with everything disconnected, it still took a large pry bar, lots of grunting and swearing and liberal use of a large rubber mallet to force the tank out. I'll remove the bed next time I think.
When I did the pump on my Tacoma I lifted the bed - just tilted it - didn't even take it off. 6 bed bolts and it's loose. No helper needed.
Strange. Someone came around when I wasn't looking and installed vents in my gas cans, too.
Ford should have put a access panel in the bed for those damn pumps!!!
Or you live in the rust belt and dropping the tank means completely replacing it the filler kneck lines harness straps and making a new mount for the bolts... Don't even think about taking the bed off you'll just be replacing it too. Best to install inspection port and save you the money time and hassle
My friend father did this to his Chevy w/t the first time we did it like you were how the book said to. But after 3 shoddy aftermarket fuel pumps he cut the bed and still had to change it like 3 more time until someone recommended he uses oem
I did that same pump assembly rebuild pump kit from advance Auto over a year ago still working good too and I think I paid around 60.00 with discounts and speed perks
I cut the holes carefully in 2 pickups and a full size Bronco by just going under and carefully measuring where to cut using a jig saw with a fine tooth metal cutting blade. I used a very thin 4" grinder disc to get a 1/2" starter cut, then switched to jig saw. Had a fan blowing underneath to dissipate any gas fumes. I used cross bed supports where possible to support the "hatches" on re-installation. The hatches are well supported and they came out great. I did weld on a few little tabs for support where there were no cross supports under the beds. I cleaned up the sharp edges, and installed new pumps while open, screwed the hatches down, then caulked the cut lines, touched up with paint to match close to original bed color. The hatches are held down with sheet metal screws. Now if I need to replace a fuel pump, I just have to cut the caulked seams with a box cutter, take out the screws, and pull the hatches off. So much easier than dropping a tank that will weigh 150 lbs with all the gas in it. Going forward, any fuel pump replacement will be easy with a simple tool kit I always carry. On any trip out of town (or out in the boonies in the Bronco), I will bring along a spare pump and won't be stuck paying big bills for towing and shop, or stranded while out in the countryside.
@jeffro221 I did the exact same thing to 3 of my pickups and a suburban. Waaaay easier than dropping the tanks.
@@rossbrown9768 Yup it gives you a good feeling knowing you can solve a bad pump without having to mess with the tank. Which will probably have a lot of gas in it when it happens. It puzzles me how people get so bothered by this and claim it ruins the vehicle's value. Baloney. It should come equipped with them from the factory like lots of cars do. I did mine with care and they function and look just fine. Another reason to have these panels is for when the level sender fails. Now you have to drop the tank again for that....unless you have a nice little access panel.
Easy to tell you've never worked on a rusty vehicle. Where I live, if a vehicle is over 10 years old, there is no way you will get any bolts out without breaking them. That includes on the fuel tank or the bed.
The trick you did with the hose when you were emptying the gas tank was pretty cool
I noticed that also, what did he do?
I cut a panel in my 92 Explorer a year ago.
It worked, took my time, and cut it carefully.
Connectors were rusty, one broke off the old fuel pump. Had to pull out the metal spiders inside the connectors and order replacement.
Been awhile since I've seen a pump that wasn't a lock-ring.
I have been through this situation ... 1997 C203/4 of a tank of fuel and the fuel pump goes out I check the pressure in the rail and confirm I have a work bed on that truck I decided to cut a hole because the tank was longer than meI ordered a new fuel pump installed it through the holeDrove it for 1/2 an hour and the fuel pump Made in the USA was no good... Well I was happy to have that hole in the bed with the flanges added so that I could simply put in another fuel pump. I'll never pull a fuel tank again if I can cut a hole .you do you, I'll do me...
WHY do some cars have fuel pump access panel? And some DONT? 1000% easier when it’s there.
Man, I'm jealous! I can only dream of a clean underside like that in Nebraska.😂
The sound of kids playing outside is refreshing!
Hmmmm 🤔
I did this to my ford ranger just unbolt the bed and the filler neck and up the bed came exposing the tank, easy change.
Just take the hole bed off. Saves weight. Added bonus of being able to see your fuel tank 24/7.
But in honest, I love your channel. 3 years ago I was asking a friend if there was such a job called a Roadside Mechanic. When I went home your channel was suddenly in my feed. So glad you are still doing this and growing. I must of been one of the first thousand of your subscribers. Love ya brother.
Your phone has ears.
How much did you charge for this job? I just ask because I want to know how much I saved by doing this myself. And just for giggles I am totally blind. Did it on my wife’s 2002 F150 exactly how you did it
Almost every time I've changed a fuel pump, the tank was full. People always put gas in when the fuel pump starts going bad, they think that's the problem.
Much easier! I had to that because of time money and my back! I went to Home Depot and installed a sheet metal closure with insulatation around the opening. It's no different than what other manufactures do underneath a rear 💺 Seat!
Only smart techs will think of tricks to get the job done quickly! I By the way I installed a Life Time Warranty Pump assembly from Autozone and the whole process took less than 30 minutes rather two ✌️ Hours to drop the Tank!
Everyone is stuck on a truck bed but cars/suv s need fuel pumps too! The manufacturers should make access panels to fuel pumps period....Some do !!
Another awesome video.. I like the long hair man. I've been growing mine for 2yrs as well.
Safe way to cut the hole, I use an air chisel with a body shop panel cutting tool. Like a hot knife thru butter, on the truck bed.
I used a drill and an air chisel also. Here is a tip. Use a 1/4 inch drill bit and put it in 3/8 pipe so the bit only sicks out about 1/4 inch.. Fill the pipe with epoxy. Now you can lay out where you want to drill holes without running into the tank. It is a lot faster and safer.
What kind of siphon hose is that...that you used to siphon the gas?
Soon as I seen the way the pump assembly comes out of the tank I knew It was a Ford ! I really love Ford vehicles easy ASF to work on
I find it's easier to move the bed back .
Great job dude you make it seem so easy 😂
A full 26 gallon tank would be roughly 210 pounds plus on an old truck the bolts are usually rusted all to hell
I prefer to tilt the bed or just move it back onto the tires.
Hacked a hole in the bed of my vanlopy to change the pump.
Just don't use it around Sparks Sparks or any other element that may cause a fire or explosions around the gasoline tank think about it
Great job
Working from above is easier than working underneath.
Yeah why did he say that? Here's why you shouldn't do it? I mean I didn't watch a whole video but if you're careful with a grinder measuring you know where it is. I booked that truck from a guy who was in a pool business and the bolts the straps. Everything was freaking rusted anyway it was the best thing just to carefully cut a hole with little flap and repaired it and then put a bed. I put the bed liner back on. It looks like it's fine
So much easier to unbolt the box and slide it back than trying to get the tank out, takes less time too.
“I don’t know why you wouldn’t just drop the tank”
not that I would ever cut a while in the bed of my own truck or a customer unless explicitly instructed, but I also think it’s funny to hear “mechanics” who live in places like Arizona say things like this, it would genuinely be hilarious to watch you work on cars here in Maine.
if you’ve never replaced a pump cause the lines are rotted out, dropped the tank just to find that the metal retainer and the locking tabs are gone too you shouldn’t talk
I live in Arizona, and have dropped the tank in 120+ degree heat on my brother's '88 F150, in the dirt, to put in ANOTHER free replacement Airtex pump (of course they don't reimburse you for your labor); we must have done that 5 or 6 times before we heard about cutting the bed; since then I've done it on several vehicles, no problem; I use Simpson straps to make a flange for the cutout to sit back on, screw it together with short sheet metal screws, caulk it, paint it, all good; like the guy in the video said, he didn't realize the tank was going to be so heavy! and the best part is trying to get the very stiff filler hose back onto the tank, in cramped spaces, with no extra length to help and dirt falling in your face the whole time, you really should try it a few times in extreme weather, you will learn to appreciate better ways!
@@bryanhood9839 Amen.
I learned a lesson a long time ago to always change the whole module when changing fuel pumps, It's just as cheap and last much longer
Not if it’s all OEM, but yes I do the same. I have been using Spectra Premium, they are pretty good for affordable tanks and pumps.
I would rather cut a hole its easy enough
I TILT the beds. Rarely ever remove or drop tanks.
Double ear hose clamps are great
did you replace the fuel filter too
Thank you Sir.
Yeah, that looks miserable. I'm cutting a hole.
Last fuel pump i done for something other than my job was my friends NBS silverado 99 or 2000 model dont remember. Just unbolt the filler neck, light harness and bed bolts. Stick truck in neutral and lift the back of the bed while pulling back. Bed rolls right up the tires and set it down on the bumper. Had the truck running in 30 minutes
You're slow. I started a stopwatch, then went to work unbolting the bed (8 bolts), unplugged tail lights, detached fuel filler tube, used my engine hoist to lift the bed off my Silverado, pulled truck out from under, placed the bed down on sawhorses. Then pulled the old fuel pump (which was old but still working), cut a nice access panel in the bed for the future with jig saw, drilled and tapped screw holes to re-mount the panel on bed crossmember flanges, raised the bed back up with the hoist, backed the truck under the hoisted bed, bolted it back down, reattached filler tube, tail lights plugged back in, all in 10 minutes and 27 seconds from start to finish.
@@jeffro221 There is a comic based on you, called "The Flash!"
@@bw1841 Bahahaha! Of course, I'm lying about 10 min. Just being sarcastic. It just kills me when people claim how fast they do some involved job faster than they did.
@@jeffro221 NO WAY AND THEN YOU WOKE UP .
So random I cut concrete for a living never expected to see an add for a concrete saw on your channel
Did you replace the fuel filter too?
Old trucks like ford and Chevy! You should always cut a hole for access, nothing wrong with it. You need more experience.
On my Ranger, it's six bolts holding on the bed. If I remove those, disconnect the filler from the bed and disconnect the tail light wiring harness, I can lift the bed back a couple of feet and get unfettered access to the fuel pump without removing the tank. Takes less than 10 minutes to get this done and the bed is light enough that I can move it with one helper. Not sure if the operation is similar with an F150.
Good video
I can only speak for myself here in California. I just take the bed bolts out lift the bed up. Rest bed on cut 2 x 4 shovel. Whatever you got that’s about 6 foot long to hold the bed up. Change the pump drop the bed back down done I know in the rust belt it’s a lot harder easier to replace a couple tank straps and drop the tank some people in the rust belt just cut a hole in the bed and patch it, but yeah, I’m all about either dropping the fuel tank or lifting the bed
There was no legitimate reason in this video why not to create a access panel in a truck bed. Maybe this truck bed wasn’t the best design to do so, but if done right on plenty other models it makes the job so much easier, especially the next time you have to change the pump and don’t have to create the access panel at the same time. I recommend only creating a access panel if you plan on keeping the vehicle for a long time and are willing to do it right by cutting the proper size hole and fabricating a nice cover that will seal up nicely. If it’s a beater then you can just do a hack job like no other!🤷🏽♂️😂
Where are you located ? I need someone to install a fuel pump in my 04 Suburban and if I can’t find someone then I’m definitely going to be cutting a hole in the floor of it because it’s full of gas and I don’t have any help.
Never mind I see that you’re out west somewhere
You need a clip on mic
You stole some gas or what was that?
Ratchet straps make that so much easier.
having an overhead beam to lift the bed.
I cut a hole, made a cover, in the floor my 2014 Expedition. I can change a fuel pump in about 15 minutes even at the side of the road if needed. Being stuck on the highway is no fun. I know I would get points taken off my Expedition at a car show for doing this. But I am not going to enter my SUV in a car show. Not now or ever.😑
I got a vent and full flow nozzle on my gas can and that is what I call a jerk off pump LoL 😆😆😆😆 and yes I cut a access hole in my 98 Ford e250 right at the hump on drivers side inside the van 6 8 mm bolts hold the pump assembly in place tank is easy to drop but not fully fueled and I keep my tank full all the time
Great video. How much do u charge for a Diagnosis?
I thought you.d put that gas in your tank for the landscape clean up.
What did you use to get the gas out of the tank?
A jerk off pump
A shake-to-start siphon hose
@@bw1841 it's a jerk off pump LoL
@@bw1841 thank you!
@@bw1841 where did you find it I've never seen one before that's pretty cool actually
You need to buy a pump up spray tank, mine is a 2 gallon I use mine as air supply to blow dirt and trash away, try it and see for your self
Never pull the tank, it's faster and easier to pull the bed off. Or take all bolts out of one side then loosen other bolts in bed and jack bed up sideways. So much easier faster and cleaner
I'm not that fast at it, but shoot yeah that's better than choppin or droppin a 27 gallon tank, full of course.
Why haven't the dealerships pre cut on new cars. I bet its liability for them . Safety first my friends.
Personally, I would never cut a hole in the bed of my truck. That said…living in the rust belt, I totally understand why some choose to. Those older vehicles out west L👀K like virgins under the carriage. Out here, a heat induction tool such as the BoltBuster is absolutely mandatory, but still no guaranties. You end up opening a can of worms! That specific hardware that will need to be sourced, once in a bind, is not easily accessible. Leaving you face down arse up on the side of the road. 👍Job well done!
Being a Ford, I would question if it's worth fixing.
Do you see the outrageous prices for newer trucks?
Good luck with any of that here where everything rusts.. A hole would be cut. :-)
This guy doesn't want you / us cutting a Access panel like Alot of automotive manufacturers do because 1. It takes away from his Job.
2. He can't Charge more labor Time.
This guy is using Dura last tool set and giving mechanical advice on RUclips 🙄.
😂 Oh yeah I'd much rather crawl around on my back in gravel or the street. So let's do it the hard way to only lay down in the truck bed 2 -3 feet from where the access panel would be cut . 😂😂
Also ... keep putting those AutoZone fuel pumps in and your definitely gonna need an access panel 🤣.
Always buy a good pump...those cheap pumps are cheap for a reason!
Sure dealing with a 100lbs of gas or more is so easy!
On a truck? No. I drop the tank. There’s plenty of room if you jack it up some. On vans and cars… yeah.. I’ll cut through the floor or trunk to get to it- especially if people don’t have the money to fork out. Cutting up late 90s-2000s Camaros and Firebirds.. I’ve probably made an entire years salary on just doing those.
I prefer dropping the tank, but on some old rusty pos work truck it’s not worth it. You’ve obviously never worked on a rusted junk with northeast winters. I don’t go around advocating it but not telling someone not too
There’s no reason this video should be 15 minutes.
I don't see any issue with cutting a hole in the bed of the truck to get to the fuel pumps. If you are a young guy and don't mind crawling under the truck and dropping a heavy ass gas tank, more power to you. I'm 53 years old, and crawling around on the ground is not my idea of a fun afternoon. I think using an angle grinder to cut a hole in the bed sounds like a much better option. You can protect the hole from rust, and truth is, the bed probably is going to get rust on it somewhere else from the shitty factory paint job your truck got from Ford! I am speaking from experience, mine has rust above each wheel well lol!
I use a plasma torch to cut my holes in the bed so I can make sure I completely destroy it with a kaboom. Dumbest thing ever to cut thru the bed
No thanks, ill just tip the bed up and get to it that way.
I am not watching 15 min to find the target of the clickbait title.
Do you know how much liquid weighs like how much a gallon of water weighs now you're talking about a full 18 gallon tank I promise you it's weighs weigh more than 100 lb
"that's what she said " with all that beer sloshing around in your fat gut,
You're clearly not doing repairs in Indiana or Illinois or Ohio
I do them in Ohio Cleveland area and that truck looks brand new underneath
skid plate
U literally didnt give us a gud reason to not cut . Tha comments are VERY convincing definitely doin lol i cudnt even hear video tha comments were so loud lol
Your statement "don't ever cut through the bed" wasn't explained or demonstrated in any substantive way, shape or form during your presentation. If anything, your presentation makes it quite clear that cutting an access panel in the bed is the way to complete this task.
Always cut a hole ignore this advice
Its 2 bolts on my truck i cant stand lazy people who ruin cars and trucks by cutting floors and beds
I hated it when idiots cut the same type hole in the old f bodies