Easily! Ali was wildly overrated. She had a nice NY swag, voice, and some bars, but was too overconfident and one-dimensional. She is probably the most boring rapper with a dope voice and bars I've ever heard, and that's insane. She walked around the stage the same way during each performance, looking like she herself was bored. Jaxs was robbed.
I thought ludacris was good on the show and gave Great feedback. I think busts rhymes should have been a regular and they had 4 judges because he was giving gems too. But they dropped the ball on the season 2 winner . Jay Taj was ahead of EVERYBODY all season. Then they made him defeat his biggest competitor in the rap battle
THEY WERE BAD!!! JAY TAJ was ROBBED!!! AND ALMOST ALL THE BEST WAS LOST DURING THE RAP BATTLE! IT WAS SHAMEFUL! The guy who won, I don't even remember his name... was one of the worst musically!!! IT S U C K S!!!
They gotta figure out a way to do the battle differently cause I thought people went home that shouldn't have on season 1 too... While weaker battles let people slide that shouldnt
@ 1000% I was pissed about that situation too cuz not all rappers are battle rappers anyways and that should have just been like a round to pick for the bottom few then kick half off maybe
@@Bigrig_trmcFr they should’ve made the losers of the battle rap battle each other again & one would get to stay. Would’ve def been RHOME if so honestly.
That win had Lotto all over it, She should have never been a judge she's not seasoned enough. The decision was very immature., the other two judges new better that why it was a screaming match as they said. First season judges would have never made that choice
@@haadhiqlong2091he didn’t better, I think they saw that he could have hits. I don’t understand how they kept Detroit Diamond over Dono and Jaxs tho. Even Tia P’s West sing was better than Diamonds
Jay Taj was the winner. Everyone knows it. But he was robbed of his rightful win anyway... Absolutely no point in these shows if the strongest artist gets shafted. Season 3 should be boycotted if there is one 💯 BULLSHIT
Jay Taj was robbed he had that all day Dre TL sometimes slurred his words and you couldn’t understand what he was saying and he didn’t go with the flow of the beat.
Its a rap contest and the judges acted impressed when dre tl stayed on beat, it was so stupid. And hate to say it but his voice was just straight up weak in comparrison to jay taj
People talking about catchy this and catchy that. Catchy is for the simple-minded. What ever happened to rewarding people who actually have talent?!?!? Judging music on only catchyness and a hook is for slow people.
Diamond cannot rap better than Dono they picked her because she was from Detroit and Eminem was judging. Personally I don't think that Latto has enough experience to be judging a rap show.
Diamond has better flow on the beat, Dono has better lyrics.. don't forget that Dono is a bad character and she spoke vey badly to diamond all the time at the show.
They let someone without Rythm and flow win a show called rythm and flow. Wish success to DreTL but not at the expense of ppl who deserves it. Top 4 should've been Jay, Sura Tiap and Jaxz. Last performance wasn't about making a new catchy tune, that was way earlier phases. It ws all about giving out a show, a closing spectacle, and as the judges said "i felt like i was at the grammies" with Jay Taj. ffs this finale was complete bullshit, only gen z mumblers and atlanta is happy with it.
Jay Taj was insane!! he was robbed and they even got rid of Jas with an X she clearly wrecked asura ali that chick was boring! Yuck!! and they make the winner a dude with no rythm or flow!! Luda and that overrated chick lotto, Yea yall both dirty!
Unfortunately today's rap music is not what it used to be. The true winner was Jay Taj, instead they picked a kid that is just gonna show off his future grillz with them big ass teeth that whines when he raps. It's not about music anymore unfortunately, it's about "show business". U gotta have that "look", look at 69 for example, can't rap for shit and ended up lookin like a rich clown literally 😂
I hate that we lost so much talent in the rap battle part , rap battling isn’t for everyone and labels don’t care if you rap battle they want to know if you can make hits and that’s it
There were very few polished performers this season, unlike Season 1, which featured many high-performing artists. The S2 cast, which started 30% smaller than last season, featured far fewer competent performers, with a surprising many contestants tripping over their lyrics when it really counted, making for a frustrating viewing experience. I trust it must be a high pressure, quick-turnaround environment, but I was surprised to see so many "hungry" rappers fumble their moment. In comparison to Season 1, what happened to the quality control? How did we go from over half a dozen lyrically adept, outstanding performers in D Smoke, Flawless Real Talk, Londynn B, Beanz, Jakob Campbell, Old Man Saxon and more, whilst Season 2 largely falls flat? Jay Taj, Jaxs, and Dono appeared to have among the strongest delivery to me, crushing it through and through. With a few notable exceptions, I am disappointed at the calibre of talent this season, I just don't buy that this is purely the cream of the crop, the way I could in season one.
What actually blows my mind is how the chose a winner this season who couldnt consistantly stay on beat. Im sorry but if you a rapper and people act like its a big deal you managed to stay on beat, thats god damn ridiculous. Jay taj should have won hands down!
For real! Honestly, I was losing my mind waiting for someone to tell DreTL the truth. I was pleasantly surprised by his semi-final performance, but in no way did he outperform Jay Taj at any stage.
@@Gollybone and jay taj had actual diction and prnpunced his words, sorry but im way over the whole slurring words sounding uneducated gimmick that rappers think makes them hard or street. Might aswel be "rythemless and mumbles"
I think it’s a mix of a few things. The judges weren’t good this time around. You can also tell that the format was changed, maybe less of a budget and also there was very lil promo for the show. I also don’t feel like the show connected us to the artists as much as the first season. First season felt raw and uncut this season felt a lil more produced for tv. They need new judges next season.
Like they really dgaf about true talent anymore they just want another industry plant. I swear I tried my hardest to really feel dre tl but bruh you need speech therapy, can’t understand a damn word that come out ya mouth. How tf he win
They had bad calls, I only got to about episode 4 or 5? And they removed Cody Ray, which was crazy considering he's the only one in his cypher team who kept the cypher alive... So yea, I don't think it's a skill issue necessarily, I think it's just them looking at the wrong form of talent.
Idk how DreTL or Detroit Diamond even made it to the finals...the other contestants were so much better. I knew some BS was going on when they picked Detroit Diamond during the freestyle battles...When they announced Jay Taj didn't win, I was upset and turned off the TV. That was a whack move...IDK if they are scared that Jay Taj is better then all of them. I hope he goes platinum. Much love to JT.
Lotto was killing me with y'all don't know I've been here since the beginning of their journey and I love them. That's fine, but you are a judge not their mama so be objective and critique without care of your personal opinions.
Jay Taj should have been the winner...Hands down! I think Detroit Diamond has a lot of potential and now a fan of hers. Cody Ray got robbed...should have gone much further. Sura Ali has a terrible attitude. Dre TL is just okay...Definitely did not belong in the Finals. Jazz with X is nice too. Definitely starts with Netflix promotions on season 2. There was some talent...but could use more complete cast. Maybe should have gone to different cities like in the first R&F to find the rap talent
Well I was pissed off they kept pushing DreTl the whole time he honestly couldn’t catch a beat and does he have marbles in his mouth? Then he won!? Please! Smh…. Jay Taj had it locked down. The talent was no where near season 1 and I really don’t care for Latto or Kelad. So I won’t be looking for another season of that hot mess.
I disagree with the judges about one of the battles.Yoshi vintage doesn't respect her opponent,she told him that his mother is a hore..and after that he destroyed her with 100/100 Freestyle not written lyrics.Bunduke is better MC and i don't understand the reason that judges didn't send him to thenext round.
Nobody in their right mind will actually believe that DreTL deserved the win. It should be Jay Taj. Dude was too perfect (and as they say, polished), they have not to criticize him then ditched him the last minute for a dude who sounds like OG Loc in GTA San Andreas.
The problem was not the artist. The problem was the horrible lame ass judges. Robbing people of real opportunity and playing to the crowd in different cities. Detroit Diamond that lost that rap battle in the D. Dre TL should’ve lost in the finals Jay Taj. Jay Taj should’ve won the competition and it wasn’t even close but the only person that would’ve gave him a challenge was King Hoodie in episode 2 didn’t even make it but some goofy kid name Cali made it.
They did the Same shit to “Flawless RealTalk” on season 1 D Smoke was and is nice, but Flawless won that contest. Come to find out!!! D-Smoke had his brothers in the music industry there!!! The day of the final show.
Agreed!!! I was telling my bf that there is a guy that looks exactly like him and I love his music. I dunno why I didn't recognise SiR when they showed D-Smoke at home 😂😂 But fr, he could have taken a back seat coz he already had such an advantage in the industry Flawless could have done so much with that win ❤
OH LA HONTE!!! Les participants étaient presque tous nuls... À part certains qui étaient franchement bons. JAY TAJ HAS WAS ROBBED!!! IT S U C K S !!! Celui qui a gagné, était un des plus merdique et il ne sait même pas chanter juste... L'horreur!
I think the responsibility falls on the artists to build their music careers because Netflix and record labels have a budget that can only accommodate so many resources to artists. Netflix only gives the contestants a platform to get their name out there but then after the show is over, I think contestants have to pave their own way whether that’s signing with a label or going the independent route. Also with $250,000 like chance said in season 1, the winning artist should invest in themselves as much as the money comes with no strings attached since what happens is young artists ruin their careers by frivolously blowing money on their lavish lifestyles instead of their careers or let alone building a savings.
🙄Just what we needed another mumble whinner/rapper. He was screaming and whining and mumbling his words the whole time more than rapping. I feel like everything is rigged these days for the audiences disappointment. First it was the Tyson fight and now this?! Just goes to show about the entertainment businesses 90% of the time you will be disappointed. Jay Taj should have won.
NO this is a reality tv show problem. How many winners of americas got talent can you name? American idol? The voice? The show was the exposure I don’t see how it’s Netflix’s fault in any capicity
I think the judges got it right with DreTL. Jax with an x, Jay Taj, Sura, Big Yoshi, and on and on the talent was endless. He was the most well rounded and impressive to me too. I think he’s gonna be huge. He’s only 20 I think lol and he’s got unbridled authenticity and messages that are too deep for 20 year olds. I’m 42 😂 he’s speaking some deep shit y’all need to listen.
Problem of this season was bad freestyle battle pairing imo, Dono, Rhome should have gone through and shine in next phases, the other white guy should go through instead of afrikan guy he was talented and they let african guy win over him only cuz he spit few bars in other language. DreTL cooked in the final but there's no way he was better than Taj and Sura Ali should not go that far, Jax should go through semis instead of her 🤷
There were a few talents that seemed promising during preselection, but failed in other rounds. Honestly, I believe either pool of Talents wasn't that vast. Also, it was odd that this time preselection was done only in Atlanta, that might have had impact on the roaster of talents. In Season 1 they did preselection in multiple states, East, Mid and West. I believe that's what they should definitely bring back. I don't have much confidence in Khaled and Latto (didn't even know who Latto is before the show), only Luda seemed to know what's up and even his decision where doubtful sometimes. I don't understand why they glorified DreTL from the beginning when he was and still is completely whack (no offense, just opinion). In debut singles round I really liked Tai P, she delivered. And I was shocked that DreTL was chosen over her. But I guess Atlanta has Atlanta's back, huh? They couldn't let a homie from the West win the second time in a row, could they? But I'm grateful I know Jay Taj now. And one good artists from a show is more than enough for me. Hope there is gonna be a S03 and S30 of Rhythm and Flow, cuz it's a live tv show I can get by. Also, I wish they would bring back the debut video clip challenge as well, it was lit in S01, but I understand that increases the production costs drastically, that's why it was cut out of S02.
Putting someone like DreTL over Jay Taj in itself is asinine if you ask me. DreTL is not even a finalist in my book. Jay Taj should've won the whole damn thing and Jazz with an X got ribbed as well! Dono was robbed vs Detroit Diamond. I feel like the home team Rappers were just given the nod fearing the crowd reaction.
The contestants was weak because they picked younger people and set higher hopes for them. It’s a reason Jay was the best…He wasn’t new to the hiphop industry which is why they decided to pick dreTL instead. *Dumb…*
One of the weakest contestants won. He was not the best so the show felt fixed. The production was solid but felt rushed. They should focus more on the competition and how they edited the show. The strong contestants never seemed to get highlighted. In season one the top 4 all could have won easily. This season only Sura and Jay belonged.
JayTaj is the true winner of this season, but he was already perfect. DreTL has that sob story the woke loves, but zero form of skills when it comes to rapping.
DreTL pure trash. Jay Taj pure 🔥🔥🔥. Ask yourself, whos album would you buy?! When Tia P was dropped, i knew they had no clue what a hip hop artist was.
In what world??? Bruh you tripping and you don't know shit about music. I can't for the life of me remember even a line from anything Dre tl said during the show but I can sure as hell remember jay taj's whole performance
Everyone talkin Jay Taj should've won. He's already got 140k listeners on Spotify? Dudes chillin and literally said he already won. Yeah, my boy is polished and he's made strides compared to the majority of contestants, but DreTL got flow and a different perspective on how he writes his shit. You even saw, on one of the challenges, the judges said the crowd wasn't feeling it at first BECAUSE he's so different. Keep playing Jay, I will too since it's well deserved and he's got talent, but also open those ears up to DreTL and what he's gonna be cooking up in these next coming years. Jay Taj said himself, if he was as talented as Dre at that age, he'd be way better than he already is. Jay Taj accepted the loss, took the win he gained of creating his new follower base, and understood that Dre has unmatched potential. Every keep hating but those two got love for each other so if you're hating on either one, you're disagreeing with both.
All these haters are trippin. DRETL stuck out all season. I knew he was gonna be I the finals, and I don't even like what has happened to hip hop. But I literally felt like DRETL Life story was being told when he rapped, and I could literally feel what he was saying. Jay Taj was amazing too, but give DRETL credit where it's due.
@indigenoustruthx4828 My heart was with DreTL as the underdog who kept underpromising but rising to the occasion. Jaxs and Dono are the ones I'm actually listening to regularly. JayTaj was amazing but can't connect with what he's saying personally.
Some artists sent home when others who didnt belong there get to the end.. each song for the finale were good except DreTL think he sounds sloppy and awkward.
it sucks . I can barely get through it . First of all , its too many women ,they arent as good . Also the very little men that are there , they have no lyricist . The cyphers sucked , the battles sucked and I believe because its too many women . I don't want to see people crying because they didn't get through . How are they considered equals and still getting sympathy for crying when they fail . Man up ! Rhome and Taj were really good and they shouldn't have put them together in the battle . Stop ruining what men like by adding too many women in it .
With dreATL winning. This show is officially cooked. It's clear Latto and Ludacris wanted an ATL rapper to win. I won't be tuning in anymore. The show is a joke.
Jax With An X Should’ve Beat Sura Ali. DreTL Should’ve BEEN Left From When He Was Off Beat And Mumbling … Jay Tag Should’ve Won The Whole Thing! *Real Disappointed* DreTL Wasn’t It
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jay taj was ROBBED! how you gonna call him “polished” and say that he’s been perfect throughout every round, then give the win to someone else?
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Cuz they know Dre tl gone have all the lil kids these days listening to him
Straight robbed
Especially someone that can barley talk
Im sayin doe! DreTL sound like a special ed Lil Baby!
Jaz with an x should have beaten sura Ali easily
Easily! Ali was wildly overrated. She had a nice NY swag, voice, and some bars, but was too overconfident and one-dimensional. She is probably the most boring rapper with a dope voice and bars I've ever heard, and that's insane. She walked around the stage the same way during each performance, looking like she herself was bored. Jaxs was robbed.
Yes
Easily!!!!
Bro we not gonna talk about how fucking DreTL won? Jay Taj got robbed fr fr, they didn't let him win because it was too suspected the whole time
Sura Ali was terrible lol. She enjoying her 15 minutes tho 😂
Jay Taj, Jax and Dono were robbed. Dretl and Diamond didn’t belong in the building…
True shit.
Completely robbed
I was saying exactly that! They all got shaded
Exactly
Thank you! My thoughts exactly.
Jay taj was robbed. Lotta even told Dre TL I got you on one episode. Dude was the wackiest of them all smh
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I agree! The "winner" was one of the worst musically!!! What a shame!!!
Bro Detroit diamond went wayyyy to far in this show
I thought it was just me...
FACTS!!!!!
Stg
Fr fr
Yup
I lost interest when Jaxs got voted out. To me she had the whole package.
My feelings too she killed it and i Rap myself She had me like o shit!!!
Facts
Honestly I dont know how Sura Ali made it so far. Her vibe as a whole was waaaccckkk
She was trash fr
@@haadhiqlong2091Too ratchet. If they said “Ok, your challenge is to make a rap song without cursing once” literally 90% of them would’ve gone home 😂
The only reason people saying sura didn’t deserve the spot was because of her attitude . She a good rapper a made top 3 deal with it
@ she traaaaasssshhh
Facts 😂I wanted her gone
Jaxs and Jay Taj should have been the final 2
Say Top 3 and add Dono 😊
These three judges "Khaled, Latto, Ludicrous" sucked. The winner of season 2 didn't deserve the win.
I thought ludacris was good on the show and gave Great feedback. I think busts rhymes should have been a regular and they had 4 judges because he was giving gems too. But they dropped the ball on the season 2 winner . Jay Taj was ahead of EVERYBODY all season. Then they made him defeat his biggest competitor in the rap battle
Khaled is an example of how far you can get on confidence alone.
Agreed.. last season's judges were much better... The production was way better last season too.. felt really rushed this year
Facts budget must had been low cause they add latto and luda
Latto is wack herself. It’s like my four year old niece critiquing art.
THEY WERE BAD!!!
JAY TAJ was ROBBED!!! AND ALMOST ALL THE BEST WAS LOST DURING THE RAP BATTLE!
IT WAS SHAMEFUL! The guy who won,
I don't even remember his name... was one of the worst musically!!!
IT S U C K S!!!
Talk Facts!!! 🤝
They gotta figure out a way to do the battle differently cause I thought people went home that shouldn't have on season 1 too... While weaker battles let people slide that shouldnt
I agree. They put two of the best against each other and have to elimínate 1 while the weather ones go through.
All the best were lost in the rap battle at least 3 that were better than 3 of them that made it bar for bar or challenge for challenge
@Holy_Bible_Reads_Ai
Exactly!!! Thank you!
I think Dre won bc he’s from Atlanta and they ain’t want another west coast artist to win. The talent wasn’t as strong as S1
True! And I think he's more marketable in today's music.
I can barely make it through season 1. Trash. Outside of Flawless battle rap it's a snooze fest
@@grantmitchell5013ain't like they gave him a record deal all he got was $250,000 its about talent Jay Taj was flawless he murdered every competition
Facts. DreTL is going to make millions
Jay taj should’ve won he was the only good one throughout the competition
He was on a whole nother level
I feel like Jay Taj and RHOME would’ve been the last two standing if they didn’t make him battle Jay.
@ 1000% I was pissed about that situation too cuz not all rappers are battle rappers anyways and that should have just been like a round to pick for the bottom few then kick half off maybe
@@Bigrig_trmcI been giving RHOME’s music some love tbr, I recommend it too he’s a pretty good MC honestly.
@@Bigrig_trmcFr they should’ve made the losers of the battle rap battle each other again & one would get to stay. Would’ve def been RHOME if so honestly.
I had to search for some reaction videos to see if I was trippin… how did Dre TL even make it on the show… let alone WIN?!?!?!
I said the same thing. It was definitely something shady going on behind the scenes for DreTL to even make it as far as he did let alone win.
same reason I'm here.... crazy
They cheated like crazy!!! A big disappointment
im convinced he is a make a wish kid
@@londonglasgow2145 facts 😂😂😂
That win had Lotto all over it, She should have never been a judge she's not seasoned enough. The decision was very immature., the other two judges new better that why it was a screaming match as they said. First season judges would have never made that choice
Wrong they literally all loved Dre tl and said it after every performance…it’s not about who you like better it’s who did better🤷🏾♂️
@@haadhiqlong2091DreTl is not a good rapper period.
@@haadhiqlong2091he didn’t better, I think they saw that he could have hits. I don’t understand how they kept Detroit Diamond over Dono and Jaxs tho. Even Tia P’s West sing was better than Diamonds
@@nicolenunya984 remember they kept diamond because of frequency.....frequency has an effect on our brain
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When Dono lost I knew it was gonna go be bad
That’s when I stopped watching.
Right idk y tf they hyped up Detroit diamond like that... Kept saying she has a 'frequency' wtf does that mean?
Yeah Dono should of been in the finals for sure and Jasx
Yup, that was the first one. Then TiaP. Then Jax. Then started seeing they were gonna fumble the winner too. Very strange.
Detroit diamond should have never made it that far. Her battle was ass
Jay Taj was the winner. Everyone knows it. But he was robbed of his rightful win anyway... Absolutely no point in these shows if the strongest artist gets shafted. Season 3 should be boycotted if there is one 💯 BULLSHIT
Jay Taj was robbed he had that all day Dre TL sometimes slurred his words and you couldn’t understand what he was saying and he didn’t go with the flow of the beat.
Its a rap contest and the judges acted impressed when dre tl stayed on beat, it was so stupid.
And hate to say it but his voice was just straight up weak in comparrison to jay taj
Show should have been called “No rhythm + No flow” 😂
Like lil baby.
People talking about catchy this and catchy that. Catchy is for the simple-minded. What ever happened to rewarding people who actually have talent?!?!? Judging music on only catchyness and a hook is for slow people.
Diamond cannot rap better than Dono they picked her because she was from Detroit and Eminem was judging. Personally I don't think that Latto has enough experience to be judging a rap show.
We couldn't even understand half of what she was saying... I'm guessing that's why she picked DreTL.. Couldn't understand that mf either...
Diamond has better flow on the beat, Dono has better lyrics.. don't forget that Dono is a bad character and she spoke vey badly to diamond all the time at the show.
Detroit was better to me....and more interesting
dono is better than latto herself
"the judges provided valuable mentorship" IS A REACHHHHHHH
They let someone without Rythm and flow win a show called rythm and flow. Wish success to DreTL but not at the expense of ppl who deserves it. Top 4 should've been Jay, Sura Tiap and Jaxz. Last performance wasn't about making a new catchy tune, that was way earlier phases. It ws all about giving out a show, a closing spectacle, and as the judges said "i felt like i was at the grammies" with Jay Taj. ffs this finale was complete bullshit, only gen z mumblers and atlanta is happy with it.
@DanilloMagalhaes your top 4 is spot on
Jay Taj was insane!! he was robbed and they even got rid of Jas with an X she clearly wrecked asura ali that chick was boring! Yuck!! and they make the winner a dude with no rythm or flow!! Luda and that overrated chick lotto, Yea yall both dirty!
Rhythm and flow? Lame. I won’t be watching season 3 if this is how it’s going to be.
Unfortunately today's rap music is not what it used to be. The true winner was Jay Taj, instead they picked a kid that is just gonna show off his future grillz with them big ass teeth that whines when he raps. It's not about music anymore unfortunately, it's about "show business". U gotta have that "look", look at 69 for example, can't rap for shit and ended up lookin like a rich clown literally 😂
Sura Ali should not have beat out Jasx. Her final comment seemed like production karma.
This season is going to hurt the shows future for sure. Dre TL shouldn’t even have made it to episode 3 let alone won the whole competition.
I was thinking the same thing 🥴
Thank you
I liked his energy but he was rapping off beat. Maybe he can't hear the music
I hate that we lost so much talent in the rap battle part , rap battling isn’t for everyone and labels don’t care if you rap battle they want to know if you can make hits and that’s it
There were very few polished performers this season, unlike Season 1, which featured many high-performing artists. The S2 cast, which started 30% smaller than last season, featured far fewer competent performers, with a surprising many contestants tripping over their lyrics when it really counted, making for a frustrating viewing experience. I trust it must be a high pressure, quick-turnaround environment, but I was surprised to see so many "hungry" rappers fumble their moment.
In comparison to Season 1, what happened to the quality control? How did we go from over half a dozen lyrically adept, outstanding performers in D Smoke, Flawless Real Talk, Londynn B, Beanz, Jakob Campbell, Old Man Saxon and more, whilst Season 2 largely falls flat? Jay Taj, Jaxs, and Dono appeared to have among the strongest delivery to me, crushing it through and through.
With a few notable exceptions, I am disappointed at the calibre of talent this season, I just don't buy that this is purely the cream of the crop, the way I could in season one.
What actually blows my mind is how the chose a winner this season who couldnt consistantly stay on beat.
Im sorry but if you a rapper and people act like its a big deal you managed to stay on beat, thats god damn ridiculous.
Jay taj should have won hands down!
For real! Honestly, I was losing my mind waiting for someone to tell DreTL the truth. I was pleasantly surprised by his semi-final performance, but in no way did he outperform Jay Taj at any stage.
@@Gollybone and jay taj had actual diction and prnpunced his words, sorry but im way over the whole slurring words sounding uneducated gimmick that rappers think makes them hard or street.
Might aswel be "rythemless and mumbles"
Jay taj was Robbed,Dretl sucks
How did the worst guy win??
The worse??? naw u didn’t listen to what he was sayin bro had real bars people just hatin on Atlanta rappers nothin new
I think it’s a mix of a few things. The judges weren’t good this time around. You can also tell that the format was changed, maybe less of a budget and also there was very lil promo for the show. I also don’t feel like the show connected us to the artists as much as the first season. First season felt raw and uncut this season felt a lil more produced for tv. They need new judges next season.
Like they really dgaf about true talent anymore they just want another industry plant. I swear I tried my hardest to really feel dre tl but bruh you need speech therapy, can’t understand a damn word that come out ya mouth. How tf he win
That Part 😂😂😂‼️‼️
😂😂 omm
He's not anything special. He was back all the way around!!
They had bad calls, I only got to about episode 4 or 5? And they removed Cody Ray, which was crazy considering he's the only one in his cypher team who kept the cypher alive... So yea, I don't think it's a skill issue necessarily, I think it's just them looking at the wrong form of talent.
Agree Cody Ray was robbed
Lack of talent was the problem
But there were people far more talented than Dre TL. I don’t get it.
Jay Taj should have won!
Idk how DreTL or Detroit Diamond even made it to the finals...the other contestants were so much better. I knew some BS was going on when they picked Detroit Diamond during the freestyle battles...When they announced Jay Taj didn't win, I was upset and turned off the TV. That was a whack move...IDK if they are scared that Jay Taj is better then all of them. I hope he goes platinum. Much love to JT.
Lotto was killing me with y'all don't know I've been here since the beginning of their journey and I love them. That's fine, but you are a judge not their mama so be objective and critique without care of your personal opinions.
She big mama though
The French show is genuinely better, even with me reading subtitles ☠️ the talent, criticism, vibe is more genuine
Day light robbery.. love to you jay taj
Its the judges 🎉
Jay taj should’ve won but yall are wrong about DreTL. He’s good too
There was barely talent in season 2. Jay Taj was obviously the most talented, and people got pushed through that were barely a talent
Dre TL sounded like OG Loc from San Andreas
😂😂😂
😂😂😅
OMFG HE DID!!! 💀
Jay Taj should have been the winner...Hands down! I think Detroit Diamond has a lot of potential and now a fan of hers. Cody Ray got robbed...should have gone much further. Sura Ali has a terrible attitude. Dre TL is just okay...Definitely did not belong in the Finals. Jazz with X is nice too.
Definitely starts with Netflix promotions on season 2. There was some talent...but could use more complete cast. Maybe should have gone to different cities like in the first R&F to find the rap talent
Well I was pissed off they kept pushing DreTl the whole time he honestly couldn’t catch a beat and does he have marbles in his mouth? Then he won!? Please! Smh…. Jay Taj had it locked down. The talent was no where near season 1 and I really don’t care for Latto or Kelad. So I won’t be looking for another season of that hot mess.
Jay Taj didn't win the show, but he won the audience. He won without winning. Enough said.
I disagree with the judges about one of the battles.Yoshi vintage doesn't respect her opponent,she told him that his mother is a hore..and after that he destroyed her with 100/100 Freestyle not written lyrics.Bunduke is better MC and i don't understand the reason that judges didn't send him to thenext round.
DreTL is just hard for me to listen to. His voice...its his voice.
Really hate Luda and Latto..
Nobody in their right mind will actually believe that DreTL deserved the win. It should be Jay Taj. Dude was too perfect (and as they say, polished), they have not to criticize him then ditched him the last minute for a dude who sounds like OG Loc in GTA San Andreas.
My top 4 were Honey gold , diamond, Dono Jay Taj. lyrically they was the best.
Honey gold was dope af but she kept messing up. She has Doja cat potential though.
The problem was not the artist. The problem was the horrible lame ass judges. Robbing people of real opportunity and playing to the crowd in different cities. Detroit Diamond that lost that rap battle in the D. Dre TL should’ve lost in the finals Jay Taj. Jay Taj should’ve won the competition and it wasn’t even close but the only person that would’ve gave him a challenge was King Hoodie in episode 2 didn’t even make it but some goofy kid name Cali made it.
They did the Same shit to
“Flawless RealTalk” on season 1
D Smoke was and is nice, but Flawless won that contest.
Come to find out!!! D-Smoke had his brothers in the music industry there!!! The day of the final show.
Agreed!!!
I was telling my bf that there is a guy that looks exactly like him and I love his music. I dunno why I didn't recognise SiR when they showed D-Smoke at home 😂😂
But fr, he could have taken a back seat coz he already had such an advantage in the industry
Flawless could have done so much with that win ❤
I think Netflix is gatekeeping stardom
Jay Taj should have won 🏆
If Netflix the issue, they too busy trying to raise everyone bill, it’s like they switched up
It should of been cody ray and jay taj simple!!!!!!!!!!!!
I too think Cody Ray was dope and am listening to his music these days
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So two judges that repp Atl & someone from Atlanta wins it okay😂🤯😵💫😡🙄
Jay Taj, Jaz with X, Suri Ali, and Duno was the hardest artist on the entire show
This season was garbage
OH LA HONTE!!! Les participants étaient presque tous nuls... À part certains qui étaient franchement bons. JAY TAJ HAS WAS ROBBED!!! IT S U C K S !!!
Celui qui a gagné, était un des plus merdique et il ne sait même pas chanter juste... L'horreur!
🎉🎉🎉merci pour le français !!!
@LePurist1218 De rien très cher! Ça me fait plaisir! ✨️
Cause they was sending home the real winners and passing some of the worst! I wish remy ma would have been a judge or would have brought cardi b back!
The problem was there’s only 1 d smoke. If you take d smoke out of season 1, then season 2 doesn’t seem all that far off.
I think the responsibility falls on the artists to build their music careers because Netflix and record labels have a budget that can only accommodate so many resources to artists. Netflix only gives the contestants a platform to get their name out there but then after the show is over, I think contestants have to pave their own way whether that’s signing with a label or going the independent route. Also with $250,000 like chance said in season 1, the winning artist should invest in themselves as much as the money comes with no strings attached since what happens is young artists ruin their careers by frivolously blowing money on their lavish lifestyles instead of their careers or let alone building a savings.
How come no one is talking about Tia P? Her last performance shot her up to second best for me in the pool of remaining contestants
Jay taj should of won this since day one he mastered his performance
🙄Just what we needed another mumble whinner/rapper. He was screaming and whining and mumbling his words the whole time more than rapping. I feel like everything is rigged these days for the audiences disappointment. First it was the Tyson fight and now this?! Just goes to show about the entertainment businesses 90% of the time you will be disappointed. Jay Taj should have won.
NO this is a reality tv show problem. How many winners of americas got talent can you name? American idol? The voice? The show was the exposure I don’t see how it’s Netflix’s fault in any capicity
This show is racism
Not racism, favoritism
I think the judges got it right with DreTL. Jax with an x, Jay Taj, Sura, Big Yoshi, and on and on the talent was endless. He was the most well rounded and impressive to me too. I think he’s gonna be huge. He’s only 20 I think lol and he’s got unbridled authenticity and messages that are too deep for 20 year olds. I’m 42 😂 he’s speaking some deep shit y’all need to listen.
Problem of this season was bad freestyle battle pairing imo, Dono, Rhome should have gone through and shine in next phases, the other white guy should go through instead of afrikan guy he was talented and they let african guy win over him only cuz he spit few bars in other language. DreTL cooked in the final but there's no way he was better than Taj and Sura Ali should not go that far, Jax should go through semis instead of her 🤷
There were a few talents that seemed promising during preselection, but failed in other rounds. Honestly, I believe either pool of Talents wasn't that vast. Also, it was odd that this time preselection was done only in Atlanta, that might have had impact on the roaster of talents. In Season 1 they did preselection in multiple states, East, Mid and West. I believe that's what they should definitely bring back.
I don't have much confidence in Khaled and Latto (didn't even know who Latto is before the show), only Luda seemed to know what's up and even his decision where doubtful sometimes. I don't understand why they glorified DreTL from the beginning when he was and still is completely whack (no offense, just opinion). In debut singles round I really liked Tai P, she delivered. And I was shocked that DreTL was chosen over her. But I guess Atlanta has Atlanta's back, huh? They couldn't let a homie from the West win the second time in a row, could they? But I'm grateful I know Jay Taj now. And one good artists from a show is more than enough for me. Hope there is gonna be a S03 and S30 of Rhythm and Flow, cuz it's a live tv show I can get by.
Also, I wish they would bring back the debut video clip challenge as well, it was lit in S01, but I understand that increases the production costs drastically, that's why it was cut out of S02.
Frances rap scene is younger and fresher, it’s more alive over there. Partly because it’s in French lol.
Putting someone like DreTL over Jay Taj in itself is asinine if you ask me. DreTL is not even a finalist in my book. Jay Taj should've won the whole damn thing and Jazz with an X got ribbed as well! Dono was robbed vs Detroit Diamond. I feel like the home team Rappers were just given the nod fearing the crowd reaction.
The contestants was weak because they picked younger people and set higher hopes for them. It’s a reason Jay was the best…He wasn’t new to the hiphop industry which is why they decided to pick dreTL instead. *Dumb…*
SURA ALI SAYIN TO THE JUDGES IF I DONT WIN EVERYONE IS CHEATERS🤣🤣🤣
JAY TAJ SHOULD'VE WON HANDS DOWN. DRETL ONLY WON CUZ THEY WERE IN ATL
One of the weakest contestants won. He was not the best so the show felt fixed. The production was solid but felt rushed. They should focus more on the competition and how they edited the show. The strong contestants never seemed to get highlighted. In season one the top 4 all could have won easily. This season only Sura and Jay belonged.
JayTaj is the true winner of this season, but he was already perfect. DreTL has that sob story the woke loves, but zero form of skills when it comes to rapping.
Sura Ali was robbed. She said it, every one is a cheater. 😉😂😂
none of the contestants were at their best. They seem big potential in the young man.
DreTL pure trash. Jay Taj pure 🔥🔥🔥. Ask yourself, whos album would you buy?! When Tia P was dropped, i knew they had no clue what a hip hop artist was.
How they took DreTL outta the single tracks round and left TIA P.? WEST was smooth and polished. Dude is a nice guy but his flow is ...........
Sure Jay Taj was polished but DreTL got better bars
In what world??? Bruh you tripping and you don't know shit about music. I can't for the life of me remember even a line from anything Dre tl said during the show but I can sure as hell remember jay taj's whole performance
@@ParadoxTheGhost 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Detroit Diamond 💎 or Jay Tae....were the TRUE WINNERS
Everyone talkin Jay Taj should've won. He's already got 140k listeners on Spotify? Dudes chillin and literally said he already won.
Yeah, my boy is polished and he's made strides compared to the majority of contestants, but DreTL got flow and a different perspective on how he writes his shit. You even saw, on one of the challenges, the judges said the crowd wasn't feeling it at first BECAUSE he's so different. Keep playing Jay, I will too since it's well deserved and he's got talent, but also open those ears up to DreTL and what he's gonna be cooking up in these next coming years. Jay Taj said himself, if he was as talented as Dre at that age, he'd be way better than he already is. Jay Taj accepted the loss, took the win he gained of creating his new follower base, and understood that Dre has unmatched potential. Every keep hating but those two got love for each other so if you're hating on either one, you're disagreeing with both.
Man thank you!!!
All these haters are trippin. DRETL stuck out all season. I knew he was gonna be I the finals, and I don't even like what has happened to hip hop. But I literally felt like DRETL Life story was being told when he rapped, and I could literally feel what he was saying. Jay Taj was amazing too, but give DRETL credit where it's due.
@indigenoustruthx4828 My heart was with DreTL as the underdog who kept underpromising but rising to the occasion. Jaxs and Dono are the ones I'm actually listening to regularly. JayTaj was amazing but can't connect with what he's saying personally.
Na próxima temporada, tragam de volta o Chance, T.I, e coloquem o Chris Brown junto, pronto, tudo será analisado da forma certa.
Jay should have won that!!!!
French rythm and flow winners don’t have that much success either. Fresh is already a story of the past
Some artists sent home when others who didnt belong there get to the end.. each song for the finale were good except DreTL think he sounds sloppy and awkward.
Idk wtf was up with season, its like they tryna dumb rap down so much they llied to let Dretl win
JAZ WITH X 👑
They are talented. It’s the Judges fault
Jay Taj got rob. DreTL he more of a underground banger type of artist which nothing is wrong with that but jay Taj is mainstream ready.
it sucks . I can barely get through it . First of all , its too many women ,they arent as good . Also the very little men that are there , they have no lyricist . The cyphers sucked , the battles sucked and I believe because its too many women . I don't want to see people crying because they didn't get through . How are they considered equals and still getting sympathy for crying when they fail . Man up ! Rhome and Taj were really good and they shouldn't have put them together in the battle . Stop ruining what men like by adding too many women in it .
Facts
JAY TAJ IS THE REAL WINNER!!!!!
Jay taj!! was robbed. all i know. I can't even remember the winners name, but know HE WASN'T THE winner!!!
I only watched to see Jay Taj perform
With dreATL winning. This show is officially cooked. It's clear Latto and Ludacris wanted an ATL rapper to win. I won't be tuning in anymore. The show is a joke.
Jax With An X Should’ve Beat Sura Ali. DreTL Should’ve BEEN Left From When He Was Off Beat And Mumbling … Jay Tag Should’ve Won The Whole Thing! *Real Disappointed* DreTL Wasn’t It
Worst judges ever