Is sugar poison?
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Almost anything is poison if sedentary. The key is: get moving! Get jacked!
I think the problem is that sugar makes it easy to eat lots of calories quickly, so generally avoiding sugar (or added sugars) is generally a good idea
Some of that is simply according to taste. Kids are conditioned to like sweet food and treats. When you get somewhat older, it's not as important to be shoving cookies into your gullet or having deserts after every meal. Plus when mom isn't around there's less going on for the baking.
My impression from the studies I read is that fructose combined with being sedentary is the problem. Keeping the calories the same substituting fructose for glucose while sedentary will still produce an insulin resistance problem and elevated triglycerides. Add exercise and the problem goes away.
The problem is exactly avoiding overconsumption, right? At least for me...
Dr. Robert Lustig often talks about a study done in California where a group of overweight metabolically dysfunctional kids were put on a special diet for 10 days that kept calories the same but substituted the sugary foods in their diet with starchy foods- Pop Tarts out, bagels in, cookies out, baked potato chips in, etc. All of their biological markers for metabolic impairment improved, some significantly, while their weights remained the same, in just TEN days. To me that study speaks volumes as to the impact of sugar on metabolic health. Since 75% of foods found in supermarkets have some form of sugar in them, I think the ubiquitousness of sugar in our food is the reason we are as obese and unhealthy as we are.
Calories are left the same... that's your hint.
How about the Twinkie Diet where you eat Twinkies but at a Caloric deficit? (blood markers better, lose weight) How about the Fast Food Diet but at a caloric deficit (blood markers better, lose weight).
All you're doing in this study is switching out high glycemic foods with low glycemic foods. I'm sure you'll get better results if you take out all processed foods for whole meat, fruits and veggies if you keep calories the same. But it's probably impossible... try eating the same number of calories that it takes to get obese on PopTarts but with Broccoli (it's impossible).
They are kids. Give them some damn poptarts and icecream just make sure they aren't eating the whole damn carton. Let them run around outside... JFC...
When I was a kid, I'd eat toaster strudels, hot chocolates, bags of chips, Dr.Pepper, E.L. Fudge cookies and I wouldn't gain a pound because we were outside all damn day.
Kids are on their phone or tablets, don't play sports, and they will eat what you buy for them... these obese kids need better parents!
Did they exercise
@@bobdown5520 there was no formal exercise component to this - they just carried on with their normal daily routine
@@toph10167I'm not sure your assumption is right. Pop tart for a bagel has a biologically equivalent GI. There really does appear to be data that fructose has detrimental effects at isocaloric levels.
But much more importantly it drives appetite. This makes an enormous amount of sense because millions of years, before we were humans as apes we followed figs. They are only good for a few days, so you need to eat as much as possible, and get as much fat stored. The idea that we would have routine access to this nutrient is something we are not evolutionarily adapted to.
And yes movement is good. But at some level, if your satiety is driven higher, activity will increase it even further. You'll exercise, and then overeat. There's a reason 5% of people can maintain weight loss at one year on the calories in, calories out model. Because the effort and energy, mental discipline to do so becomes Herculean when your body is constantly telling you you're starving.
@@johnpienta4200 pretty sure any isocaloric detrimental effects are corrected by movement. So... how am I getting this wrong?!
Anyone who does NOT consume sugar is much better off.
Nonsense.
Agree.
try doing endurance sports, at least ride 100km or run 30km in one go without any sugars and then with sugars. comeback later and tell me how did you feel
@maisetas Look up Dr Ekberg
@SebastianLarsen Brilliant one-word reply. Try an explanation, if you can.
The simple question is, “is sugar good for your body?” It’s not good for mine. I think because I abused it before.
It has no nutritional value and causes metabolic harm. It's not good for anyone.
Sugar is addicting. Start there!!!
Wrong you cannot become addicted to sugar you can develop a dependency on sugar but even that's rare. How many times of you walked past a table sugar pot and eaten a spoonful?
What people become dependent (not addicted) is a combination of saturated fat,sugar and salt. Take a look at a donut the next time you eat one its alot high it fat than it is sugar.
What about all those animal based dudes eating fruit and meat? That mixes all those things@@courtesywater6hi992
Fat is addicting and has over 3 times the potential to be stored as fat in calorie surplus, there is more fat in processed foods yet you blame sugar.
Lol stop blaming fat or sugar, jeez, just eat whole foods
Dr. Lustig: 3 words to make his point.
Dr. Attia: Many words to make his. I lost count.
To suggest that sugar is poison is a vast over-simplification of a complex issue, but I guess people like sound bites.
Even sped up the video on the short LOL
Lustig in German means funny 🤣😂
Here is the short version: Lustig is a liar.
That isocaloric fructose glucose study was in rodents - humans are way more sensitive to fructose abd have specific point mutations that alter their fructose metabolism. Functionally in the way it's consumed, fructose is a smoking gun and a poison. Thats the question worth asking, - for dosages typically consumed, not 'depends on the dose'. All poisons are dose dependent, nobody is asking whether sugar should be considered a poison to uncover that redundant point.
Just stay away from sugar. I did& still do. Guess what. My life is back now.
Eat some fruits.
I replaced part of my carbohydrates and fat consumption with fruits (instead of legumes and nuts), and my weight did not change. All biomarkers improved, so sugar actually was more beneficial for me. Even though I eat 2 pounds of fruits daily, my liver fat was decreased, and triglycerides decreased in a iso-caloric state.
Why is this video sped up?
My metabolism is high I remove sugar if feel lightheaded anxiety lots of unpleasant sensations
There's a lot of paranoia around sugar consumption which has declined over the decades but inflammatory disease has gone skyward in unison with seed oil consumption and there's data to demonstrate this.
Seed oil itself actually isn't an issue. You missed out a key part of the equation which is that inflammatory disease has gone up in conjunction with seed oil consumption in conjunction with an overall huge increase in calorie consumption. The last part of that is of greater importance than seed oils although they do contribute to calories. Basically if people controlled their calorie consumption then seed oils being in there aren't an issue. Layne Norton did a video on this called My Most Hated Video.
@@FlatToRentUK Yep I saw his video but veg oil is highly processed with numerous chemicals including caustic soda, bleaches, deodorizers, solvents and in addition to that most if not all seed oils by the time they hit supermarket shelves are already well and truly oxidizing which is another major problem for health in general and specifically blood vessel/heart health.
BINGO! Sugar is metabolized much more easily in relatively small doses with little damage to the system.
@@jonathanmagic5633 I'm not qualified to comment on that level of detail. However I have my doubts because I would expect those issues to be highlighted by the likes of Layne during their videos. There was another by Dr. Mike Israetel recently saying similar. I'm watching Layne on RichRoll right now where he addresses the supposed issues one after the other referring to studies that show positive or neutral effects of seed oils.
In the US the average daily consumption of sugar is 126 grams even though it was slightly decrease from ten years ago that's still a big problem, and there a lot of studies that demonstrate how excess sugar intake get you a pass for diabetes, overweight, dental caries, apart form it is not like a person is taking just a spoon of sugar they take it in products in donuts, ice creams, sodas, french fries
Yeah! Basic carbohydrates! Poison? Makes sense seeing how everybody's dead
re: "I don't see that an Isocaloric substitution of Fructose for Glucose is demonstrably worse for health outcomes if total energy intake is preserved". If there is an effect you might see it in Patients with NAFLD who exercise. In the short term, they might be able to control their Metabolic disfunction from glucose consumption better (quicker) than from fructose consumption.
It makes a big difference in my toddlers. I can tell with 100% accuracy if it had High-fructose in it or regular sugar. That's the thing that blows my mind about it. I think the Fructose is more active too.
Wow, he is over 50 - he looks healthy and youthful!
Has the video been sped up ???
Saying nothing....that we don't already know
In a verbose and almost pedantic fashion.
I never felt better until I removed sugar and yes it's poisonous because its addictive. Yea u could have some sugar treats once in a good while but why bother. If I do a line of cocaine once a week I'll probbaly be ok but will it benefit me? So WTF why bother with it?
Soooo...
_the dose maketh the poison?_
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Or the OG
_All things are poison, and nothing is without poison; the dosage alone makes it so a thing is not a poison_
Exactly but people can't fathom this concept. This is the reason the organic and the homeopathic billion dollar industries can exist.
indeed i think that if one is metabolically healthy and brushes his teeth 1h after consumption, then eating sugar is ok, it's just glucose and fructose. however you do get a blood glucose spike, not sure if that's good.
Maybe not for everyone, but for some of us, YES - sugar IS poison.
In what way is it poison for some people 🤔
@@kygo type 2 diabetes? Then you'd REALLY have to limit your sugar intake, beyond just the calories.
@@sam20inu it's not the sugars' fault that you have a disease tho... it's like saying nuts are bad because of allergies but that's just a you problem.
Yes, sugar is poison. For sedentary people.
@@homsterluder5364 Except eating too much nuts doesn't cause you to develop a nut allergy, however excess sugar consumption (especially in the form of fructose, liquid sugar, or refined carb) over the years (even without consuming excess calories) DOES eventually develop into type 2 diabetes.
Doesn't this all boil down to simply not being a junkie with it, especially for consuming more than an average kid did before, and would do now. Consider your years in grade school times, and all the stuff you'd get for Hostess goodies your mom packed in your lunch box. We all had that and traded for it. I had that stuff every school day, and at home I often had kid's cereal with the heavier sugar content, (Fruit Loops, etc.) and while I wasn't super into Cokes and other soda pops and such, I did have them some of the time, much more than now. None of that was a problem then with my expected good health, so there has to be a threshold where it becomes a problem. There is almost always some sugar in things like chocolate, like boxed cereal, spaghetti sauce, salad dressing, etc., and that's in the context of pretty good diets short of being health food nut diets. That amount of sugar isn't a problem either. So I guess what I'm getting at is this "sugar is poison" thinking is bollocks. You just have to avoid being a junkie with it.
I am there. Peter.
The phrase is also a clickbait title for RUclipsrs
Hey, I just said that! Great minds.... :)
every endurance athlete eat shitloads of sugar, like pure sugar. are they fat and unhealthy?
People also freak out over "adultery.".
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Yes
What did he just say?
What we should really be asking, I think, is a question that is more along the lines of... IS THIS THE AI VERSION OF PETER ATTIA?? 🤷♀️ I mean... I. Just. Don't. See. The. Data. To. Demonstrate. That. This. Is. The. REAL. Peter. Attia. 🤖
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You’re so good looking… I really have to concentrate on what your saying 😂😂😂
I’m 51 (calendar age).
Sugar makes you gay
My whole views on all sugars has changed, after going down the united fruit company rabbit hole.
I think it’s so odd that everyone has a sugar addiction. I crave coney dogs, pizza, and French fries lol
Bread, potato, and ketchup are sugar or our bodies convert it to sugar. Carbs are basically sugar. So you are addicted to sugar too.
@@mykalq1MK this makes sense!
Bring it Peter! Enough with pseudoscientists, pulling terms and catch phrases out of their…
How much did they pay you bud
Dr. LUSTIG dis this study with kids
Refined sugar causes inflammation
No
It basically can be a poison of sorts. After life long stomach issues, I found out that I am sucrose intolerant. So no sugar, white flour or anything that is too high in sucrose. I'm now on a strict low sucrose diet and I physically feel so much better and I've lost weight without even trying.
Sugar is not necessary or healthy. There!
Nothing is.
@@SebastianLarsen sure kid
In a world where high fructose corn syrup isn't the cheapest sweetener then beet sugar or cane sugar would get the label.
That being said, processed food with an overabundance of processed sugars is the slow poison of our age. So HFCS is no different metabolically but this soundbite leaves out that it's also metabolically unnecessary. A weakness of these shorts.
Wow...... go through the effects of sugar. Dont let anyone know you're talking about sugar, and simply ask if what you just described isnt poison. Denials a hell of a drug buddy....
Sorry this short is not helpful..😮
Wow Peter you talk so fast
It’s easier to say sugar is poison because it’s true 😂
It really isn't.
@SebastianLarsen, wow, your arguments are impressive.
Sugar is poison=sugar is addictive
No.
He needs to listen to Dr Lustig's talk
Lustig is a liar. Look up Layne Norton's debunking of Lustig. It's hilarious.
Layne Norton, lol
We ought to call it what it is. A drug.
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Its not a drug.
@@danperlman3185it behaves like a drug in many ways. More than a poison.
@@MarcellHanson no. I disagree. Maybe donuts and cakes have an addictive quality but sucrose on it's own does not behave like a drug.
@@danperlman3185so you don’t think cookies, donuts and baked goods have sucrose in them? What sucrose isolate are you consuming/in what form?
I’m not fond of the greatly accelerated voice. He speaks very slowly, and this video makes him sound like a hobbit or something.
Interesting. I do appreciate the faster paced voice. The words are clear, you get the info in a shorter amount of time = good.
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Idk how you’re hearing a hobbit…
I think he thinks of that Hobbit who is with the dragon who guards the gold.
He did talk a bit funny..
@@fieldsy6642 perhaps I should have said he sounds like he just had 5 Red Bull…
Sugar is Slow Poison !
It really isn't.
I like living life free ...no sugar .that's easy for me to grasped..
Then I don't eat sugar
Sugar is a drug
Better?
It's not.
Go eat sugar all the time, see how you'll feel..Im diabete I can't my reading go ups...
I noticed in last videos Peter talks ambiguously ,no clarity,wouldn't trust much.After him still need to check with other resources of information.
Because u can’t get everything here. U need to read as well. Or maybe, u are not just getting his point
Nonsense...read the room.
Data doesn't care about your feelings.