**Check out the Part 2 follow up here ** ruclips.net/video/kfFfkogJm30/видео.html **Check out the 2020 iPad Pro review here** ruclips.net/video/SDB7tihlCfw/видео.html **Grab a Paperlike Artist screen protector** paperlike.com/cladioart For anyone commenting about and trying to dispute opening- here is my thread on Twitter with videos showing the magic keyboard being opened with one hand in multiple ways. Now I will post a follow up video here showing opening it with one hand, both ways and why it's designed to be opened the way I showed. Also, I state in the video I float my hand when drawing. I really meant to say the last angle is at just enough of an angle for someone who floats their hand to comfortably draw. If it's last angle was anything above the 130 degrees it wouldn't work out. So when I have it flipped I am also floating my hand, I don't rest my palm down on it. When I said the angles are solid in that flip method it was implied for how I float my hand when drawing, or how I play the touch instruments. If you rest your palm down hard it will of course begin to go down. To counter that you can hold the side. It doesn't go down for me because I don't rest down. If you rest your hand down in a heavy way the keyboard folio can be the better option for you because it locks into place when flipped. Again, a follow up video is coming. Also, if you are brand new to the channel please check the entire channel before assuming I only use Apple stuff. twitter.com/cladiojuliano/status/1255621776765263872?s=19
Cladio Juliano literally subscribed over this. you're 100% correct. Just tried opening the 2018 folio the "wrong" way and then tried it with your way. It was so much easier! The top heavy weight definitely makes sense to let the bottom fall. Awesome job!
I totally agree with you. I wanted to cancel my order based on previous videos and then decided to give it a try and returned it back after a couple of days. But I found that all of them were wrong. I wish you made this video earlier. Another hack I may add that you can place it vertically the same way you did resting on the top edge with the camera lens and down on the keys on the 2nd row from top. It is good temporary solution for the stupid apps which are doesn’t have flexibility to rotate into landscape position.
This review was really logical showing true accuracies. Other very popular RUclipsrs are complaining about not having function keys. However, when Apple introduced the new gestures on their trackpad a few years ago. It was clear that the function keys would no longer be necessary. Thanks for showing me and 'those other review RUclipsrs' what the functionality of a brilliant tool this cover/keyboard & trackpad really is.
This is another excellent review man!! Really in depth. I love how you showed how the magic keyboard actually gets used for your workflows. I love that you showed opening it with one hand too, because I thought the same thing as you when I saw some of those early videos too. Thank you for this awesome video.
Mine just came in today and i typed this comment from the magic keyboard. I love it and do not regret buying it. Ppl complain about the lack of escape button lol. You can customize your keys in setting. I set the Globe as my escape key. Easy. They want all the desktop keys like function keys on it but complain about the weight of the keyboard. Adding more keys will make it heavier and probably bigger or even they will be forced to make the keys smaller. This is the perfect size.
Those extra positions for laying the iPad are ingenious. Particularly the one where you laid it between the space-bar and trackpad. Literally the perfect position for me.
Should note though that with the newest one for the new M4 iPad Pro the inside is metal so this probably wont work well for the new with the metal on top of metal. Just something to note.
AWESOME REVIEW! I love how much detail you put into this for us, love the quality, and your unique style! Answered all of my questions about the magic keyboard. Thank you so much!
thanks to you i have made my mind and purchased a magic keyboard, and it’s turned my ipad pro into the ultimate machine, and GOD i loooove that ,so thank you so much 😊
Absolutely a solid review! I've been looking for someone to express this as an artist and you did just that. Thank you for the tips and the hidden hacks! I ordered my Magic Keyboard last night and was debating all day to cancel it because of the lack of artist's review. Looking forward to my order now!
This is a review that actually helped me make my decision. Most reviews say that the magic keyboard will make the iPad heavy, I then decided to not get it... but you helped me change my mind! Thanks 😊
Agree about the function keys. A lot of youtube reviews are dissing the “no function keys” of this keyboard but I think that people will find that that it is a necessary sacrifice
Surely necessary, but that hasn't stopped Apple from coming up with clever solutions in the past. Hope they can think of something cool for the next version of keyboard. Nothing is ever perfect but function keys would have been really nice to have. I'm surprised they didn't just add some way to access function layers by using modifiers. It's super common for many compact keyboards.
I like the drawing angle you demonstrated by resting the iPad on the groove below the space bar and the backing of the case. I also have the Smart Keyboard folio and i never thought about using the other angles and folds for drawing.
I wish the hinge had a mechanism that prevents the iPad from folding all the way back when you want to use it like a laptop, and that would allow it to fold all the way back when you release something like a switch.
I feel like this product has kind of neglected people who want to make visual art with the iPad(Procreate and such) but don’t want to take the iPad out of its protective case while working. (People who also prefer to rest their hand while drawing/painting)
Well that's exactly what I am and who I reviewed it for. I am both a raster artist using the pencil and a vector artist and one of the makers of ArtStudio Pro. Visual artists are also vector artists and designers who don't use the pencil for their work. I hear you on for those who rest their hand down, but if it went totally flat it would lose the keyboard anyway. No product does that. Even a Surface book when it goes flat loses the keyboard access. A large chunk of people also float their hands and don't like to work flat. It would have been cool if it could be pulled forward and had some transforming abilitly, but at the same time that would only cater to a small portion of people in the grand scheme of how the iPad Pro is used by the majority of people. For me it works out. For those who rest down on sceen the keyboard folio would work out better. The two positions lock into place so you can flip it and get those angles.
thank you so much! other reviews aren't for artist and i was like "is it that bad? but for my logic this should be good tho for drawing" and then i saw your review and now I'm convinced
Amazing Video Man! Just a quick question, So I know the material used catches dirt quickly and do you think I need to get a Case or Cover to cover up the edges which are being unprotected? Because I think with constant use, it’s prone to scratches on the edges?
Thanks! I would say it depends on where you use the machine. I had my keyboard folio for 2 years and didn't get a scratch or dent on mine, but I always kept it in a bag in its own pouch when traveling. I still travel with it in a bag. I think that's the safest way to travel with it. You could also skin it, but I'm not sure if they make a skin for the sides.
How do you have less than 3k subscribers? This is the first time coming across one of your videos, I thought I was listening to someone from Cnet/theverge/engadget. Your tone, cadence, audio quality made this review super easy to listen to. This is the longest review I've listened to, and it felt like 5-7 mins. Informative, honest, well produced. Good job.
@@CladioJulianoArt I think I know what it is, I was just watching another review, it's like comparing NPR radio host to a Music/Entertainment radio host. You're taking your time to only say what's really important, rather than just saying as much as you can to fill up 15 minutes worth of content. Also, I was please to some John Kricfalusi inspired work.Loved Ren & Stimpy... Too bad that dude was a total piece of sht. Anyways, looking forward to your next review.
Great video. I have a question about screen protectors. I see a lot of folks purchasing screen protectors like Paperlike, etc. I honestly have never used screen protectors on any of my Apple devices - but am curious about your thoughts on them. Thanks so much!
Hi! I'm sorry I missed your comment a while ago. Just seeing it now. If you are doing art or writing with the pencil and want it to feel very close to paper, that's what Paperlike gives you. It's pretty awesome. I only use Paperlike for that feel for art. It does take away from your screens brilliance because it's matte and textured. Other than that I don't use screen protectors. I really only use Paperlike for the realistic feel. You can grab one from the link in the description. If you aren't trying to get that feel for the pencil, I reccomend no screen protector at all on iPad.
This review is amazing! Can you tell if the trackpad is also implemented in affinity designer? Can you pan, zoom or rotate with the trackpad? And thanks in advance!
Cladio Juliano thanks for your quickly response! I was wondering to get one or not, but after seeing you drawing with the trackpad...I mean it’s amazing! And it could really improve the way and the time I spend on my iPad. And thanks for your videos 🥰🥰🥰🥰
Hey! Could you do another video explaining and showing more on the drawing setup with this keyboard and the macro keys you set up? Also I heard on another youtuber that when used in the upside down mode it goes flat when you put your palm on. Could you show more of this?
I am planning a follow up. For the drawing segment I had said in the video it works out great for me because I float my hand, I don't rest my hand on screen when working so when showing the flipped angles that was all shown in the context of for hand floaters. If you are someone who rests your palm and hand down on the screen, with the magic keyboard you can counter the weight of resting by holding the side of the iPad which will stop it from going down. The keyboard folio is probably the better option for those who rest down on screen for it locks into its 2 positions. The positions on the Magic Keyboard don't lock into place when flipped. I am doing a follow up going over more details soon though.
Thanks for this, i was also having doubts about the magic keyboard, i am an artist and i have a digital planner, but i use this also for a lot of typing. i make my flashcards here and the trackpad will be a tremendous help. thanks for all those other position you can use for drawing. i would probably use it in portrait mode as well if it would work.
I think you are a better artist than the iPad Pro can be for an average person..therefore you are able to overcome the negatives which I have felt using this keyboard. My fingers hit the iPad while typing which is quite annoying. I wish the angle was slightly more to accommodate people who type with straight fingers...also the trackpad is kinda small for me and I don’t have such large or long fingers either..so am guessing many would face the same issue...and even for Apple standards the keyboard costs as much as another iPad mini or almost another iPhone which is an insane amount of money for a first generation keyboard. Apple needs to correct these things and other areas going forward..
Great review Cladio!!!!! Thanks for the valuable information. I’m really excited to receive mine. Be safe my friend. I’ll be looking for your next video I have notifications turned on!!!☀️
OMG, thank you so much for a favor and honest review. I have not likes any other review complaining about the weight bit if it was than they would’ve complained it was it Lindsey
Hey any tips on when you had the keyboard upside down to get the different ipad angles? I'm having issues with it falling down, I can't get it to stay at any angle
I pointed out in the video that I float my hand when I work so I don’t rest down. If you rest down and rest down more heavy it’s def not going to stay up. The keyboard folio (the one without trackpad) locks into place so that may be the better option for you. But with this one you can hold the side of the iPad with your other hand. Check out my part 2 video on the magic keyboard.
Please use a camera angle that shows your alternative iPad positions with the Magic Keyboard in profile views. This who allow one to judge the angle better.
The Alternate angles when flipped can adjust up to totally flat. The first position I would say starts at a 160 degree angle. The first one I show when not flipped I would say is about a 145-150 degree angle. Check the part 2 follow up too.
Cladio Juliano yes. Just the keyboard! It’s because of our dollar being so low I guess. I just purchased a refurbished 3rd gen 12.9 with 256 GB from Apple here for 1300 AUD so spending close to 600 on a keypad cover, and I know it would be top notch is too hard to justify. 😭
This is the review I needed to see along with Peter McKinnon. For the Artist/Content Creator this is definitely a game changer and no doubt a streamline benefit for the content creator. Thank you for the review.
It should work based on the sensor but I'm not totally positive. That may be a iOS 13.4 bug doing that. But, when you manually change it to the level you want it will stay at the setting you want. I haven't seen mine spiking up in brighter light. Unattach the iPad and restart, and then after restarted put back on and see if that clears it.
@@Andrei-Rex I just pointed mine directly at the sunlight and after a little adjustment it knocked the brightness all the way down. It's based on the ambient lighting conditions, so I would imagine it's using the iPads true tone sensor which also accounts for bounced light. It does seem to be working though. Take the ipad into direct sunlight and see if it knocks the brightness all the way down. Go into settings where the slider is and you'll see the slider adjust on its own.
@@Andrei-Rex Ok I just had it in a dark room and it didn't get brighter. I took it into brighter room and it went up and then down to its regular level. It could be a bug but I'm not positive. I would say it most likely is.
i mostly use my ipad at home for drawing , i basically need no keyboard for the ipad..... if i use easy canvas i can use my normal keyboard hooked up... if my computer isnt running i could switch the keyboard to ipad mode but i havent done it once since i got the ipad ...
I use it in the Magic Keyboard every day. I def couldn’t and wouldn’t want to go without it, because I do more than just draw on the iPad. Plus the Magic Keyboard streamlines the experience, and I prefer it over Bluetooth/other keyboards. So it’s use case depends on what you do as a whole.
It was easy for you to open because you had it upside down .. if it’s right side up like how you would normally open it or a laptop it’s not one handed
Wrong! The other way is upside down! The back of the iPad is where the camera is. You don't open it back first, It's not designed to be opened that way! It's not a laptop, it's a tablet. The iPads camera is on the back, you wouldn't open it back first. The iPad naturally sits display up, camera to the back of surface it's sitting on. It's not designed to be opened like that because it's not a clamshell design. All the weight is where the iPad is. A clamshell has guts and all the weight inside the base. Logiclly, with this design it does not make sense to open it that way, nor do you have to because opening it the right way is so damn easy and 10x better than trying to open it the other way. Even with the keyboard folio I always opened it keyboard first.
Uh, when the keyboard is flipped it definitely doesn't lock that well. If I'm drawing on it for more than 2 minutes or even let it sit long enough, the 12.9" gradually falls flat when flipped around.
There’s a difference in trying to open the cover when the keyboard is on top of the iPad or when the iPad is on top of the cover. You only showed opening it with the keyboard on top and then indeed it’s easy, because the weight of the iPad is holding that side down. If you work on your iPad, close the cover, than the iPad is on top. You don’t show that. Just a small warning to other artists: most artists like to rest their hand on the screen and in that case the floating screen is just a bit to high. A few friends of mine (digital artists) returned their magic keyboards because they didn’t like that and also because the screen wasn’t as firm. They did like the looks of the Magic keyboard, but if you have to work with it day in day out, then you better be sure if this is what you want.
Go look at the videos i posted on twitter!! The way I demoed opening it is the proper way to open it. The iPad is a tablet! The Magic Keyboard is NOT a clamshell design. A clamshell design has all of its guts and weight in its base. The iPad carries all the weight here. The iPad is designed to sit display up, with its camera on the back of the surface its sitting on. The logical and proper way to open it is how I showed, but its even easy to open the other way. I show both ways on Twitter with one hand. However, it makes no sense to open it the other way when its SO DAMN EASY and natural to open it how i showed. I am very happy with it. I also showed multiple other angles to work with the keyboard flipped and the iPad detached. I like the natural last angle, but then I also detach and placed it on that greater angle and flip it for even more angles.
I will say that if you are primarily taking notes with your ipad pro, the folio keyboard is superior in comparison to the magic keyboard. to get the ipad "flat" with the magic keyboard is really hacky and not a good solution whereas with the folio keyboard, you can easily fold it so the ipad is flat on the desk.
Lol...open it with one hand when its upside-down ok, I guess that works. I could see typing on this but no way for drawing. I don't float my hand when drawing. And applying pressure on the screen is going to change the angle.
Ehh... you had me until you talked about drawing. It definitely works for you, but still a deal breaker for me and a bunch of others because you are limited in the ways you can use the iPad for all the different ways people like to draw. The upside-down format is also just silly, not just because it looks dumb, but because that’s really just a hack. The keyboard was never meant to support that kind of usage, and if people rest their palms while drawing it does push down the hinge over time. I’m happy it works out for you, but I don’t think that automatically means that the early reviews should be dismissed. What you did with the Magic Keyboard was great, though, because you were creative with the way you use it and turned the shortcomings of the keyboard into productivity benefits. For me, I simply don’t want to use it that way, and I think the shortcomings are still shortcomings. Maybe eventually I’ll buy it anyway just to have it as a desktop typing accessory, but I definitely don’t see me taking this on the go to work where I do much more drawing, note taking in meetings, etc. with the Apple Pencil.
The keyboard doesn't stop or alter you from using the iPad as a pure tablet because like I said it can be taken off whenever you want. In fact it's designed to be pulled off. Thats the point of the design. You can take it off and on whenever you want, and it has attributes that allow one to prop the machine up when detached. I like drawing with it in the case at the last angle on lap, or in the first position I showed which in that position you can rest your hand down and it doesn't move. You can even put a decent amount of pressure on it when its flipped and it doesn't just collapse right down. I've been flipping the keyboard folio like that for a long time and once you try it you will always want to access those angles. It's way more ergonomic than using the iPad totally flat on a Surface. You can also hold the side with one hand when flipped so it doesn't move at all. Also, I didn't say I dismissed the early videos. I saw some random clips and in that part I was specifically talking about how to me they made it look extremely hard to open, and extra heavy which almost had me canceling my order. The 12.9" iPad Pro isn't something that can be held in one hand for long periods of time. The Magic Keyboard provides different ergonomics allowing one to prop the iPad up in the ways I showed. If I still was using the 11 I would have maybe passed on it, but for the way I work, it has worked out great with the 12.9. However, my workflow isn't everyone's and thats why at the end of the video I said if you have a workflow similar to mine I can reccomend it. Nowhere in the video did I say every artist should get it lol. Also when I say artist I'm covering every aspect of my work and covering for a wide range of different kinds of creators. Graphic arts, design, illustration, music, film/video.
@@CladioJulianoArt yeah, but if I had to take my iPad out of the case it's still an inconvenience. I also lose some protection from doing that as I lay the tablet flat on some surface (angled or not) the camera is exposed to getting damaged since the iPad no longer has a flush back without a case.. Also if it was in my bag, and the first thing I wanted to do was to draw (say in a park) I'd have to spend the extra time to open and remove it from the Smart Keyboard, then put the Smart Keyboard away somewhere, and reattach it when I'm done -- something I would never had to do with the Keyboard Folio case. This is why I think the Smart Keyboard is more of a desk/workstation accessory for creatives than a mobile one. The Folio Keyboard is just more versatile than the Magic Keyboard IMO. It's more mobile, and doesn't have to be placed in awkward positions to draw since it flips all the way to the back. Like I said, I'm happy you like yours so much, and it almost seems like it was made just for your usage, but I'm just posting my thoughts on why it still wouldn't work out for me. Especially with the added $150 price tag I expect it to do everything the Folio can and more. Honestly, if Apple just made it so that the hinge flipped all the way around like the Keyboard Folio I would have bought the Magic Keyboard in an instant.
@@DarrinLin For me all those things aren't an inconvenience. When I take it off I have it in lap or slightly held up a little in the lap. I pop it back on. I don't work in parks or things like that so another reason why it works great for me. But, even if I did I would have no problem just popping it on and off because I would then take it and place it on my lap and hold it up with one hand. We just don't work anything alike and won't see it the same!
@@DarrinLin I agree it would have been great if the hinge could go totally flat for those who would use it like that, but even with the keyboard folio I never once used it flat. I used it with the angles or took it out of the case.
@@CladioJulianoArt Ah, I have a dedicated drawing tablet stand that I use to get a proper sturdy drawing angle at the office. But when I'm on the go, I just make do without a drawing angle. I could if I used the Smart Folio, but not having a keyboard on hand is more frustrating than losing drawing angle when I'm out at a cafe.
Hands might hurt you mean? Doesn't for me. Many artists are used to using hotkey workflows with a keyboard, plus hot keys can be custom set to any key you want so they can be placed in strategic ergonomics areas.
Cladio Juliano I mean how do you draw while the iPad is on the keyboard. Is the angle usable with good drawing experience or you have to take the iPad off to draw and put it on to type?
I’m kind of disappointed with this direction Apple is taking. If I want a decent keyboard trackpad experience i have my MacBook Pro. My iPad is just for this unique touch first experience. I’m sure Luma Fusion and some Affinity workflows are better with keyboard, but then Final cut and desktop apps are better. Actually Affinity designer works really well with touch only interface surprisingly. I had a keyboard for my gen 2 iPad Pro, but ditched it for the 2018 one as I never used it. Doesn’t look like an accessory for me.
A great tool caters to many kinds of workflow, and this adds to it. It doesn't take anything away from it. It allows one to use the tool in a verity of ways. I can't see how that can be chalked up to a bad thing. It just makes the iPad Pro more versatile as far as the direction.
It might not be a great accessory to you, and def didn't say that it would work well for everyone in this video. I simply showed why and how it works well for my processes.
"You can open it with 1 finger" yet you are constantly using two HANDS to open and close it? I have the Magic Keyboard and the hinge design is clever but this is not an "easy to open" hinge at all so its a shame you spent so much time telling us how easy it is to open but didnt actually show it.
Lol I literally showed it multiple times being opened with one hand, what are you talking about??? 2:13 and on it's being opened with one hand and flipped up with one hand. And I open it constantly with one finger too. I adjusted the angles with one hand too at some spots. It couldn't be more easy to open to me and it's literally shown. I don't even know how one could watch this video, see me opening it with one hand and say that lol. I didn't say you can adjust the angles with one finger. And I spent so much time on that? Huh?! Lol. I talked about that for less than a minute 😂 smfh. In fact I'm going to now post a video on Twitter showing me opening it again with one finger and hand.
@@CladioJulianoArt Okay cool, I saw your twitter video. Could you please show that with the keyboard down, as if I just closed the iPad and want to reopen it without having the flip the entire device over?
@@joshuac8981 I'll show that too, but it's not designed to be opened that way. The iPad is a tablet, that naturally lays on a Surface display up with it's back and camera down on the surface. It's not designed to be opened from the back first because it's not a laptop or a clamshell design. Not designed to be opened like a clamshell, because a clamshell has all the weight of the guts inside the bottom of it's base. The majority of the weight is where the iPad is, naturally opening front first, which is keybaord first. I always opened that way even with the keyboard folio.
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For anyone commenting about and trying to dispute opening- here is my thread on Twitter with videos showing the magic keyboard being opened with one hand in multiple ways. Now I will post a follow up video here showing opening it with one hand, both ways and why it's designed to be opened the way I showed.
Also, I state in the video I float my hand when drawing. I really meant to say the last angle is at just enough of an angle for someone who floats their hand to comfortably draw. If it's last angle was anything above the 130 degrees it wouldn't work out.
So when I have it flipped I am also floating my hand, I don't rest my palm down on it. When I said the angles are solid in that flip method it was implied for how I float my hand when drawing, or how I play the touch instruments. If you rest your palm down hard it will of course begin to go down. To counter that you can hold the side. It doesn't go down for me because I don't rest down. If you rest your hand down in a heavy way the keyboard folio can be the better option for you because it locks into place when flipped. Again, a follow up video is coming.
Also, if you are brand new to the channel please check the entire channel before assuming I only use Apple stuff.
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Cladio Juliano literally subscribed over this. you're 100% correct. Just tried opening the 2018 folio the "wrong" way and then tried it with your way. It was so much easier! The top heavy weight definitely makes sense to let the bottom fall. Awesome job!
@@zdoubleyou2073 Glad to hear!
I totally agree with you. I wanted to cancel my order based on previous videos and then decided to give it a try and returned it back after a couple of days. But I found that all of them were wrong. I wish you made this video earlier. Another hack I may add that you can place it vertically the same way you did resting on the top edge with the camera lens and down on the keys on the 2nd row from top. It is good temporary solution for the stupid apps which are doesn’t have flexibility to rotate into landscape position.
@@wessamalia2873 Thank you!I wish I was able to get it up earlier, but I had to pre-order like everyone else. Was pretty lucky I got it before may.
This review was really logical showing true accuracies. Other very popular RUclipsrs are complaining about not having function keys. However, when Apple introduced the new gestures on their trackpad a few years ago. It was clear that the function keys would no longer be necessary. Thanks for showing me and 'those other review RUclipsrs' what the functionality of a brilliant tool this cover/keyboard & trackpad really is.
Finally, there is a solid review from an artist. Good job, and stay healthy. thx !
Thank you my friend! You too!
This is another excellent review man!! Really in depth. I love how you showed how the magic keyboard actually gets used for your workflows. I love that you showed opening it with one hand too, because I thought the same thing as you when I saw some of those early videos too. Thank you for this awesome video.
Thank you John! You are awesome and I appreciate you.
Mine just came in today and i typed this comment from the magic keyboard. I love it and do not regret buying it. Ppl complain about the lack of escape button lol. You can customize your keys in setting. I set the Globe as my escape key. Easy. They want all the desktop keys like function keys on it but complain about the weight of the keyboard. Adding more keys will make it heavier and probably bigger or even they will be forced to make the keys smaller. This is the perfect size.
Those extra positions for laying the iPad are ingenious. Particularly the one where you laid it between the space-bar and trackpad. Literally the perfect position for me.
Should note though that with the newest one for the new M4 iPad Pro the inside is metal so this probably wont work well for the new with the metal on top of metal. Just something to note.
@@CladioJulianoArt that’s what I’m using. It actually works great! Thanks for the heads up though.
@@stubbornweeb2190 Oh good!
AWESOME REVIEW! I love how much detail you put into this for us, love the quality, and your unique style! Answered all of my questions about the magic keyboard. Thank you so much!
Thank you so much Jillian!! I appreciate your continued support.
thanks to you i have made my mind and purchased a magic keyboard, and it’s turned my ipad pro into the ultimate machine, and GOD i loooove that ,so thank you so much 😊
Glad to hear!
Absolutely a solid review! I've been looking for someone to express this as an artist and you did just that. Thank you for the tips and the hidden hacks! I ordered my Magic Keyboard last night and was debating all day to cancel it because of the lack of artist's review. Looking forward to my order now!
Thank you!
This is a review that actually helped me make my decision. Most reviews say that the magic keyboard will make the iPad heavy, I then decided to not get it... but you helped me change my mind! Thanks 😊
Agree about the function keys. A lot of youtube reviews are dissing the “no function keys” of this keyboard but I think that people will find that that it is a necessary sacrifice
Surely necessary, but that hasn't stopped Apple from coming up with clever solutions in the past. Hope they can think of something cool for the next version of keyboard. Nothing is ever perfect but function keys would have been really nice to have. I'm surprised they didn't just add some way to access function layers by using modifiers. It's super common for many compact keyboards.
Thank you! I was really looking to see if I could use the keyboard to do short cut while drawing. Not many review out there are for artists
Thanks for tuning in! I have a Part 2 follow up as well if you want to check it out!
I like the drawing angle you demonstrated by resting the iPad on the groove below the space bar and the backing of the case. I also have the Smart Keyboard folio and i never thought about using the other angles and folds for drawing.
Thank you!
Love that too! Had no clue they could do that and never thought to until I saw here!
I loved your review. Thanks!
So much better and well reasoned than most of the “hot take sensationalist” reviews out there right now.
Thank you very much!
I wish the hinge had a mechanism that prevents the iPad from folding all the way back when you want to use it like a laptop, and that would allow it to fold all the way back when you release something like a switch.
Beautiful, informative review! One of the best! Thanks for sharing
Thank you very much!
I feel like this product has kind of neglected people who want to make visual art with the iPad(Procreate and such) but don’t want to take the iPad out of its protective case while working.
(People who also prefer to rest their hand while drawing/painting)
Well that's exactly what I am and who I reviewed it for. I am both a raster artist using the pencil and a vector artist and one of the makers of ArtStudio Pro. Visual artists are also vector artists and designers who don't use the pencil for their work. I hear you on for those who rest their hand down, but if it went totally flat it would lose the keyboard anyway. No product does that. Even a Surface book when it goes flat loses the keyboard access. A large chunk of people also float their hands and don't like to work flat. It would have been cool if it could be pulled forward and had some transforming abilitly, but at the same time that would only cater to a small portion of people in the grand scheme of how the iPad Pro is used by the majority of people. For me it works out. For those who rest down on sceen the keyboard folio would work out better. The two positions lock into place so you can flip it and get those angles.
thank you so much! other reviews aren't for artist and i was like "is it that bad? but for my logic this should be good tho for drawing" and then i saw your review and now I'm convinced
Amazing Video Man! Just a quick question, So I know the material used catches dirt quickly and do you think I need to get a Case or Cover to cover up the edges which are being unprotected? Because I think with constant use, it’s prone to scratches on the edges?
Thanks! I would say it depends on where you use the machine. I had my keyboard folio for 2 years and didn't get a scratch or dent on mine, but I always kept it in a bag in its own pouch when traveling. I still travel with it in a bag. I think that's the safest way to travel with it. You could also skin it, but I'm not sure if they make a skin for the sides.
How do you have less than 3k subscribers? This is the first time coming across one of your videos, I thought I was listening to someone from Cnet/theverge/engadget. Your tone, cadence, audio quality made this review super easy to listen to. This is the longest review I've listened to, and it felt like 5-7 mins. Informative, honest, well produced. Good job.
Thank you very much for that! I appreciate it. I've been at it for a long time now.
@@CladioJulianoArt I think I know what it is, I was just watching another review, it's like comparing NPR radio host to a Music/Entertainment radio host. You're taking your time to only say what's really important, rather than just saying as much as you can to fill up 15 minutes worth of content. Also, I was please to some John Kricfalusi inspired work.Loved Ren & Stimpy... Too bad that dude was a total piece of sht. Anyways, looking forward to your next review.
after ipad get out magickeyboard i gonna go back to mackbook pro lol look like they are losing the way
Great video. I have a question about screen protectors. I see a lot of folks purchasing screen protectors like Paperlike, etc. I honestly have never used screen protectors on any of my Apple devices - but am curious about your thoughts on them. Thanks so much!
Hi! I'm sorry I missed your comment a while ago. Just seeing it now. If you are doing art or writing with the pencil and want it to feel very close to paper, that's what Paperlike gives you. It's pretty awesome. I only use Paperlike for that feel for art. It does take away from your screens brilliance because it's matte and textured. Other than that I don't use screen protectors. I really only use Paperlike for the realistic feel. You can grab one from the link in the description. If you aren't trying to get that feel for the pencil, I reccomend no screen protector at all on iPad.
This review is amazing! Can you tell if the trackpad is also implemented in affinity designer? Can you pan, zoom or rotate with the trackpad? And thanks in advance!
Thank you! You can't yet, it's not setup for it. I'm sure it will be soon though!
Cladio Juliano thanks for your quickly response! I was wondering to get one or not, but after seeing you drawing with the trackpad...I mean it’s amazing! And it could really improve the way and the time I spend on my iPad. And thanks for your videos 🥰🥰🥰🥰
@@veronicaschembri No prob! It's def one of the reasons I enjoy it! Thanks again!
Hey! Could you do another video explaining and showing more on the drawing setup with this keyboard and the macro keys you set up? Also I heard on another youtuber that when used in the upside down mode it goes flat when you put your palm on. Could you show more of this?
I am planning a follow up. For the drawing segment I had said in the video it works out great for me because I float my hand, I don't rest my hand on screen when working so when showing the flipped angles that was all shown in the context of for hand floaters. If you are someone who rests your palm and hand down on the screen, with the magic keyboard you can counter the weight of resting by holding the side of the iPad which will stop it from going down. The keyboard folio is probably the better option for those who rest down on screen for it locks into its 2 positions. The positions on the Magic Keyboard don't lock into place when flipped. I am doing a follow up going over more details soon though.
Great help. I am now convinced. Thanks
Thanks for this, i was also having doubts about the magic keyboard, i am an artist and i have a digital planner, but i use this also for a lot of typing. i make my flashcards here and the trackpad will be a tremendous help. thanks for all those other position you can use for drawing. i would probably use it in portrait mode as well if it would work.
I think you are a better artist than the iPad Pro can be for an average person..therefore you are able to overcome the negatives which I have felt using this keyboard. My fingers hit the iPad while typing which is quite annoying. I wish the angle was slightly more to accommodate people who type with straight fingers...also the trackpad is kinda small for me and I don’t have such large or long fingers either..so am guessing many would face the same issue...and even for Apple standards the keyboard costs as much as another iPad mini or almost another iPhone which is an insane amount of money for a first generation keyboard. Apple needs to correct these things and other areas going forward..
Great review Cladio!!!!! Thanks for the valuable information. I’m really excited to receive mine. Be safe my friend. I’ll be looking for your next video I have notifications turned on!!!☀️
Thank you!
An informative and well stated assessment, thanks.
Thanks very much!
Nice to have a positive feedback its nice to recognise when a product is nicely done thanks
I got mine love the trackpad and keyboard
OMG, thank you so much for a favor and honest review. I have not likes any other review complaining about the weight bit if it was than they would’ve complained it was it Lindsey
Great video. Really enjoyed the depth of the review.
Thank you Tom! I have a part 2 video up as well if you want to check it out.
Hey any tips on when you had the keyboard upside down to get the different ipad angles? I'm having issues with it falling down, I can't get it to stay at any angle
I pointed out in the video that I float my hand when I work so I don’t rest down. If you rest down and rest down more heavy it’s def not going to stay up. The keyboard folio (the one without trackpad) locks into place so that may be the better option for you. But with this one you can hold the side of the iPad with your other hand. Check out my part 2 video on the magic keyboard.
Huh, didn’t expect artists to like this.
Well, Luigi you learned something new from your uncle Cladio. Mario still my favorite nephew 🤪
So if you predominantly use your iPad as a note-taking device laying flat on a surface, you should simply not buy this, right?
I would say yes if you strictly use the iPad for note taking.
Please use a camera angle that shows your alternative iPad positions with the Magic Keyboard in profile views. This who allow one to judge the angle better.
The Alternate angles when flipped can adjust up to totally flat. The first position I would say starts at a 160 degree angle. The first one I show when not flipped I would say is about a 145-150 degree angle. Check the part 2 follow up too.
I will post some pictures on twitter when I have a chance.
What app were you using when you were sketching in the first clip with the File, edit, etc. options at the top of the screen ?
Clip studio paint, one after is my software Artstudio Pro. Check out Artstudio Pro, its one of the top apps in the app store.
Great view. I’ve also listened to the follow up. It’s $589 here in Australia. I love good tools but would you pay that for it? I’m really tossing up!
Just the keyboards is $589? If so I wouldn't. I know about aus prices from friends. It's a bummer.
Cladio Juliano yes. Just the keyboard! It’s because of our dollar being so low I guess. I just purchased a refurbished 3rd gen 12.9 with 256 GB from Apple here for 1300 AUD so spending close to 600 on a keypad cover, and I know it would be top notch is too hard to justify. 😭
How about placing the iPad on top of the closed case to take notes? Would that be possible?
Yea you could do that. Check out my part 2 video if you haven't. Talks about some things I didn't get to fit here.
Love all your reviews excellent job !!!
Thank you!
How easy is it to take the normal smart folio case on and off? If I want to swap between the normal smart folio and the magic keyboard is it easy?
Very easy, at least to me.
This is the review I needed to see along with Peter McKinnon. For the Artist/Content Creator this is definitely a game changer and no doubt a streamline benefit for the content creator. Thank you for the review.
Thank you my friend!
Can you please explain how the auto brightness for keyboard works. Mine gets brighter in brighter environment which is weird...
It should work based on the sensor but I'm not totally positive. That may be a iOS 13.4 bug doing that. But, when you manually change it to the level you want it will stay at the setting you want. I haven't seen mine spiking up in brighter light. Unattach the iPad and restart, and then after restarted put back on and see if that clears it.
Cladio Juliano would you mind testing yours when you get a minute. To see how it behaves in dark vs bright room. I’d really appreciate it.
@@Andrei-Rex I just pointed mine directly at the sunlight and after a little adjustment it knocked the brightness all the way down. It's based on the ambient lighting conditions, so I would imagine it's using the iPads true tone sensor which also accounts for bounced light. It does seem to be working though. Take the ipad into direct sunlight and see if it knocks the brightness all the way down. Go into settings where the slider is and you'll see the slider adjust on its own.
@@Andrei-Rex Ok I just had it in a dark room and it didn't get brighter. I took it into brighter room and it went up and then down to its regular level. It could be a bug but I'm not positive. I would say it most likely is.
Its a good accessory but the only problem is the price. And in India, it is very costly. 423$.
i mostly use my ipad at home for drawing , i basically need no keyboard for the ipad..... if i use easy canvas i can use my normal keyboard hooked up... if my computer isnt running i could switch the keyboard to ipad mode but i havent done it once since i got the ipad ...
I use it in the Magic Keyboard every day. I def couldn’t and wouldn’t want to go without it, because I do more than just draw on the iPad. Plus the Magic Keyboard streamlines the experience, and I prefer it over Bluetooth/other keyboards. So it’s use case depends on what you do as a whole.
It was easy for you to open because you had it upside down .. if it’s right side up like how you would normally open it or a laptop it’s not one handed
Wrong! The other way is upside down! The back of the iPad is where the camera is. You don't open it back first, It's not designed to be opened that way! It's not a laptop, it's a tablet. The iPads camera is on the back, you wouldn't open it back first. The iPad naturally sits display up, camera to the back of surface it's sitting on. It's not designed to be opened like that because it's not a clamshell design. All the weight is where the iPad is.
A clamshell has guts and all the weight inside the base. Logiclly, with this design it does not make sense to open it that way, nor do you have to because opening it the right way is so damn easy and 10x better than trying to open it the other way. Even with the keyboard folio I always opened it keyboard first.
I just posted another video on Twitter opening it the other way too with one hand. Go look.
Claudio, what music app is that that you were using? Excuse my ignorance, I’m not an Apple vet.
That was Garage Band my friend!
@@CladioJulianoArt thanks a mill!
Thorough review. Thanks.
Appreciate it 👊🏻👊🏻👊🏻
Thank you for the video bub, stay safe
Uh, when the keyboard is flipped it definitely doesn't lock that well. If I'm drawing on it for more than 2 minutes or even let it sit long enough, the 12.9" gradually falls flat when flipped around.
Watch part 2 video
There’s a difference in trying to open the cover when the keyboard is on top of the iPad or when the iPad is on top of the cover. You only showed opening it with the keyboard on top and then indeed it’s easy, because the weight of the iPad is holding that side down. If you work on your iPad, close the cover, than the iPad is on top. You don’t show that. Just a small warning to other artists: most artists like to rest their hand on the screen and in that case the floating screen is just a bit to high. A few friends of mine (digital artists) returned their magic keyboards because they didn’t like that and also because the screen wasn’t as firm. They did like the looks of the Magic keyboard, but if you have to work with it day in day out, then you better be sure if this is what you want.
Go look at the videos i posted on twitter!! The way I demoed opening it is the proper way to open it. The iPad is a tablet! The Magic Keyboard is NOT a clamshell design. A clamshell design has all of its guts and weight in its base. The iPad carries all the weight here. The iPad is designed to sit display up, with its camera on the back of the surface its sitting on. The logical and proper way to open it is how I showed, but its even easy to open the other way. I show both ways on Twitter with one hand. However, it makes no sense to open it the other way when its SO DAMN EASY and natural to open it how i showed. I am very happy with it. I also showed multiple other angles to work with the keyboard flipped and the iPad detached. I like the natural last angle, but then I also detach and placed it on that greater angle and flip it for even more angles.
twitter.com/cladiojuliano/status/1255621776765263872?s=19
I will say that if you are primarily taking notes with your ipad pro, the folio keyboard is superior in comparison to the magic keyboard. to get the ipad "flat" with the magic keyboard is really hacky and not a good solution whereas with the folio keyboard, you can easily fold it so the ipad is flat on the desk.
Yes, that I agree with.
Great vid!
Thank you!
Lol...open it with one hand when its upside-down ok, I guess that works. I could see typing on this but no way for drawing. I don't float my hand when drawing. And applying pressure on the screen is going to change the angle.
Go watch the follow up video...
Ehh... you had me until you talked about drawing. It definitely works for you, but still a deal breaker for me and a bunch of others because you are limited in the ways you can use the iPad for all the different ways people like to draw. The upside-down format is also just silly, not just because it looks dumb, but because that’s really just a hack. The keyboard was never meant to support that kind of usage, and if people rest their palms while drawing it does push down the hinge over time. I’m happy it works out for you, but I don’t think that automatically means that the early reviews should be dismissed. What you did with the Magic Keyboard was great, though, because you were creative with the way you use it and turned the shortcomings of the keyboard into productivity benefits. For me, I simply don’t want to use it that way, and I think the shortcomings are still shortcomings. Maybe eventually I’ll buy it anyway just to have it as a desktop typing accessory, but I definitely don’t see me taking this on the go to work where I do much more drawing, note taking in meetings, etc. with the Apple Pencil.
The keyboard doesn't stop or alter you from using the iPad as a pure tablet because like I said it can be taken off whenever you want. In fact it's designed to be pulled off. Thats the point of the design. You can take it off and on whenever you want, and it has attributes that allow one to prop the machine up when detached. I like drawing with it in the case at the last angle on lap, or in the first position I showed which in that position you can rest your hand down and it doesn't move. You can even put a decent amount of pressure on it when its flipped and it doesn't just collapse right down. I've been flipping the keyboard folio like that for a long time and once you try it you will always want to access those angles. It's way more ergonomic than using the iPad totally flat on a Surface. You can also hold the side with one hand when flipped so it doesn't move at all. Also, I didn't say I dismissed the early videos. I saw some random clips and in that part I was specifically talking about how to me they made it look extremely hard to open, and extra heavy which almost had me canceling my order.
The 12.9" iPad Pro isn't something that can be held in one hand for long periods of time. The Magic Keyboard provides different ergonomics allowing one to prop the iPad up in the ways I showed. If I still was using the 11 I would have maybe passed on it, but for the way I work, it has worked out great with the 12.9. However, my workflow isn't everyone's and thats why at the end of the video I said if you have a workflow similar to mine I can reccomend it. Nowhere in the video did I say every artist should get it lol. Also when I say artist I'm covering every aspect of my work and covering for a wide range of different kinds of creators. Graphic arts, design, illustration, music, film/video.
@@CladioJulianoArt yeah, but if I had to take my iPad out of the case it's still an inconvenience. I also lose some protection from doing that as I lay the tablet flat on some surface (angled or not) the camera is exposed to getting damaged since the iPad no longer has a flush back without a case.. Also if it was in my bag, and the first thing I wanted to do was to draw (say in a park) I'd have to spend the extra time to open and remove it from the Smart Keyboard, then put the Smart Keyboard away somewhere, and reattach it when I'm done -- something I would never had to do with the Keyboard Folio case. This is why I think the Smart Keyboard is more of a desk/workstation accessory for creatives than a mobile one.
The Folio Keyboard is just more versatile than the Magic Keyboard IMO. It's more mobile, and doesn't have to be placed in awkward positions to draw since it flips all the way to the back. Like I said, I'm happy you like yours so much, and it almost seems like it was made just for your usage, but I'm just posting my thoughts on why it still wouldn't work out for me. Especially with the added $150 price tag I expect it to do everything the Folio can and more. Honestly, if Apple just made it so that the hinge flipped all the way around like the Keyboard Folio I would have bought the Magic Keyboard in an instant.
@@DarrinLin For me all those things aren't an inconvenience. When I take it off I have it in lap or slightly held up a little in the lap. I pop it back on. I don't work in parks or things like that so another reason why it works great for me. But, even if I did I would have no problem just popping it on and off because I would then take it and place it on my lap and hold it up with one hand. We just don't work anything alike and won't see it the same!
@@DarrinLin I agree it would have been great if the hinge could go totally flat for those who would use it like that, but even with the keyboard folio I never once used it flat. I used it with the angles or took it out of the case.
@@CladioJulianoArt Ah, I have a dedicated drawing tablet stand that I use to get a proper sturdy drawing angle at the office. But when I'm on the go, I just make do without a drawing angle. I could if I used the Smart Folio, but not having a keyboard on hand is more frustrating than losing drawing angle when I'm out at a cafe.
They could easily have offered function keys without altering the size, checkout any 60% keyboard for an example.
Go watch part 2 video
Sold, it’s on the way
What drawing app is that????
I think the hands might heart if you type and draw at the same time!
Hands might hurt you mean? Doesn't for me. Many artists are used to using hotkey workflows with a keyboard, plus hot keys can be custom set to any key you want so they can be placed in strategic ergonomics areas.
It looks weird here because I am positioned so I didn't get in the way of the shot, normally the setup is much closer to me or on my lap.
Cladio Juliano I mean how do you draw while the iPad is on the keyboard. Is the angle usable with good drawing experience or you have to take the iPad off to draw and put it on to type?
@@txshon Did you watch the parts where I'm drawing with it in the keyboard? I go over that in this video starting at 10:20
Cladio Juliano Yeah but without wrist support from table. Just wondering if the wrist hurts after drawing for long hours
I’m kind of disappointed with this direction Apple is taking. If I want a decent keyboard trackpad experience i have my MacBook Pro. My iPad is just for this unique touch first experience. I’m sure Luma Fusion and some Affinity workflows are better with keyboard, but then Final cut and desktop apps are better. Actually Affinity designer works really well with touch only interface surprisingly. I had a keyboard for my gen 2 iPad Pro, but ditched it for the 2018 one as I never used it.
Doesn’t look like an accessory for me.
A great tool caters to many kinds of workflow, and this adds to it. It doesn't take anything away from it. It allows one to use the tool in a verity of ways. I can't see how that can be chalked up to a bad thing. It just makes the iPad Pro more versatile as far as the direction.
It might not be a great accessory to you, and def didn't say that it would work well for everyone in this video. I simply showed why and how it works well for my processes.
Wow 2160@60 fps.....
Very rare
0:23, what case is that? I can’t find that color anywhere
It's just the standard color of the magic keyboard and current gen keyboard folio. It's slightly darker than the previous generation.
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A “ really “ good review
Thank you
10:39 name of app please
Clip Studio Paint
@@CladioJulianoArt thank you~
Aside from making me self-conscious about unconsciously overusing "really", great review.
I said really that much on purpose. Go watch my other videos I never say it. Lol.
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"You can open it with 1 finger" yet you are constantly using two HANDS to open and close it?
I have the Magic Keyboard and the hinge design is clever but this is not an "easy to open" hinge at all so its a shame you spent so much time telling us how easy it is to open but didnt actually show it.
Lol I literally showed it multiple times being opened with one hand, what are you talking about???
2:13 and on it's being opened with one hand and flipped up with one hand. And I open it constantly with one finger too.
I adjusted the angles with one hand too at some spots. It couldn't be more easy to open to me and it's literally shown. I don't even know how one could watch this video, see me opening it with one hand and say that lol. I didn't say you can adjust the angles with one finger. And I spent so much time on that? Huh?! Lol.
I talked about that for less than a minute 😂 smfh. In fact I'm going to now post a video on Twitter showing me opening it again with one finger and hand.
This is a moronic comment! I clearly saw it being opened with one hand more than once... are you blind or something?
@@CladioJulianoArt Okay cool, I saw your twitter video. Could you please show that with the keyboard down, as if I just closed the iPad and want to reopen it without having the flip the entire device over?
@@joshuac8981 I'll show that too, but it's not designed to be opened that way. The iPad is a tablet, that naturally lays on a Surface display up with it's back and camera down on the surface. It's not designed to be opened from the back first because it's not a laptop or a clamshell design. Not designed to be opened like a clamshell, because a clamshell has all the weight of the guts inside the bottom of it's base. The majority of the weight is where the iPad is, naturally opening front first, which is keybaord first. I always opened that way even with the keyboard folio.
@@joshuac8981 Check twitter again to see the other video.