I watched your video about a year ago when you spoke about password managers. I looked into using LastPass and signed up for it. Because I was a little scared to change all of my passwords at one time, I decided to just do a few each day to see how it worked. It was so easy and by the end of the week, I had changed all my passwords (almost 100) and I've never looked back!
I completely agree I have been using Enpass for years now, and it's amazing. I started using it early on and am a legacy user. It works across my apple and windows devices. Nowadays, if you are not using a password manager, you are putting yourself at risk.
I'm using a password manager for over a year now and I'm never going back, the connivence and piece of mind alone are reason enough. I use Dashlane and it's been very reliable so far.
Apples own password manager has got much better recently and it’s now my default rather than Dashlane which I’ve been using for years. Nothing wrong with Dashlane just the Apple version is more seamless for me. Great video as always Gary.
Gary, you explain the problem very well. The problem is the Apple PW program has many other problems. I just got my new iPhone 15 Max and lost all my passwords in the transfer. Until the entire computer industry offers Facial ID or Finger Print ID or Iris retnal ID or Voice ID we will NEVER solve the password dilemma.
I agree with you. I’ve been using keychain since it started and went through a few years ago and updated all of my passwords with it, works great. I also highly recommend using Apples hide my email feature as well.
Totally agree with all the things you mention and started using a 3rd party password manager (1Password) a while back and am very happy with it. One teething problem that causes confusion is that I often find Apple's password manager and 1Password competing whenever I try to log on somewhere. Keen to hear how you deal with that. Thanks again for great content!
I use them both, so I let them both take in new passwords (I let Apple's system create the passwords). So then it doesn't matter when they compete. I usually just choose the Apple option since it is easier to click on.
Hi Gary. Second time I‘ve watched this and it has occured to me that what‘s missing is a simple demo - show your viewers HOW it works. One of the reasons I came late to password mgrs was I wasn‘t sure how they worked exactly. (Yeah I could have read a bit more about it but nevertheless, a demo from the likes of yourself would‘ve helped greatly.)
I’ve used a plethora of password managers over the years; LastPass, 1Password, Dashlane, Enpass etc. and the one crux is having to pay for it on a monthly or yearly basis. I just use iCloud Keychain which has vastly improved during the years in terms of security sensitivity and more importantly, it’s free with iCloud.
Great video, Gary! I've been using 1Password for years, and I've been hearing, through them, about the coming Passkey protocol. Maybe that could be a topic for a future video.
We have iMacs, iPad, MacBook, and of course, Android phones. So I use Keeper. It works so well and has great security features. I used to maintain our passwords in Numbers and kept a physical notebook but that was a headache and terribly not secure. We have over 100 accounts to track.
I have a mix of technologies on my home network Mac, Windows, Linux, Android. I've been using KeypassXC for many years now. Cross platform for desktop, browser extension (Chrome and variants), open source, mobile app (Android - I have never had an iPhone), regularly updated and free. Sync is handled by Syncthing.
Third-party ones usually have more features and are cross-platform. But for just passwords to websites, Apple's system is certainly as good. As for using it properly: just use it. Use it to generate new passwords, use it to enter passwords. Nothing too complex about it.
@@macmost well said. great job with your video today. nothing wrong with a refresher course on password and how to manage them. Apple password manager is very easy to use especially for someone who is well into the Apple ecosystem
I’ve been looking at my passwords and they’re all showing some kind of hazardous condition including used more than once and data breach but I’m not sure what to do. I even have some listed twice with user names in lowercase and capitalized. What should I do? Oh yeah, your stuff is the best!
Case-by-case. If it is a weak password, then change it. If it is used more than once, check and see where. If the "same" site, like two related domains that represent one account, then that's fine. But if two truly different sites then time to change that password (in both places). Take it one a time, maybe a few a day.
Yes! I've been using LastPass for years because I need a cross platform solution. Much better than the sticky note under the keyboard so many people use,
Fully concur, would like to add another reason. Sometimes you want/need to share password with others (spouse, kids), with a password manager like 1Password you can create dedicated vaults for specific sharing situations. Unfortunately this is not possible with Apple’s own pwmanager, that’s for personal usage only.
@@macmost so say, I wanted to share an Amazon account Password, because we share on Prime shipping, if son or daughter wanted the new password, I would have to,maybe copy and paste it to them in a text? Only way to share if they are not in the same room or house?
@@brentnutter1510 Right. No good solution to that using Apple's password manager if they are not with you. This would be an example of a feature that a third-party password manager would maybe have. Of course it won't be easy there either as you'd probably have to set up lots of things in advance and both of you would need to be using that third-party manager.
Could you describe exactly how to use Keychain and a 3rd party pw mgr on your device? In a previous post you said it was two clicks instead of one but I ‘m a real beginner and would appreciate steps. I find all your videos really helpful.
When you create a new password, you should get prompt from both to save it. Then when you go to enter a password you should see buttons/choices to fill in from both (you would choose just one).
Gary, I recently attempted to change the password on my google account and email. I was not aware, I actually created a Mac/google keychain passkey. It seems to work well, and eliminated the need for a separate password. The passkey was automatically saved to Mac passwords. It would not allow me to save it to 1password. I must say, I do not understand keychains/passkeys and how they work. Have you done or will you be doing a video on keychains? Thanks, Adam
Do you mean a video on passkeys? I would like to, but the fact that almost every web site handles them differently makes it hard. Like if I showed how to set it up with site A, then it would be different in site B and very confusing. Still hoping things improve before I do a video.
I've been using Passwordwallet like forever. Inexpensive, one time purchase, syncs thru DropBox on devices with pw apps on phone, iPad. All without "subscription" payments.
As someone with ABI (that’s why I can’t remember shortcuts when I need them) the password manager is a lifesaver. My only problem is that 1Password doesn’t keep my phone and iPad updated with what’s on the Mac so sometimes I’m denied access or my bank will ask for a changed password. Also one site rejected the 1Password suggestion because it was “too hard to remember” lol. Isn’t that the point?
1Password should sync across your devices. Look at your settings and see where you could have something set up wrong, because it definitely does that. As far as the password, there are controls for length and what is included.
@@macmost Thank you. For some reason I'm no longer getting notices when people respond to my comments and questions. I only just discovered now that you replied two weeks ago. Have you a video that teaches us specifically how to use Apple's password manager? I'm looking, but I'm not sure if any of the ones I'm seeing do that. Thank you again.
How do you go and update all your weak passwords to strong passwords using the apple password manager. And will this then sync across all my apple devices?
It syncs with iCloud, yes. There's no magic way to update passwords since each site and service does it differently. You just have to do it one-by-one, prioritizing important sites (example: email first, then financial, then work, then social, etc.).
I remember reading an article (6-7 years ago) about the companies behind password management apps. Google and Apple were just about the only American owned companies, most were Chinese corporations and the bulk of them (save just a few) had ownership ties to Chinese corporations (I.e. based in Norway but majority owned by Chinese owners.) They played down the impact of the companies owned by Chinese corporations, but the percentage alone scared me. So if you’re looking for a third party password manager, look into the company first! Just because it’s on the google, apple or Microsoft app stores doesn’t mean it’s safe.
@@pseudoki - Only in the sense that China has proven itself to not be friendly or honest in its business dealings. They are literally THE hacking capital of the world, so why would I want to trust China with my passwords?
American owned companies can be as much dangerous and not reliable, as chinese owned. In my opinion, most trustworthy companies are from Europe, because it has strict laws and tradition to make quality products and from Russia, because it has the best mathematician school and talented programmers. European and russian companies doesn't hold monopolies like american or chinese and they tend to offer their customers better, safer products to be competitive. At the end, usually it doesn't matter where the company is located as far as it is a good company. It is always better to judge individually.
I have found that a problem with using a password manager and complicated passwords is that some sites will not allow the password manager to fill in the password, nor will it allow us to copy and paste the password, nor will it allow us to switch tabs back-n-forth as we try to fill in the password. It only allows us to fill in the password manually and in one go.
I’ve been using Apple’s password manager for some time and it generally works great, but I’ve had one problem. I went through and cleaned up my old passwords, getting rid of sites I no longer use, but the old passwords then came back. Any idea what would cause this?
I've been using a password manager for years, and not all times it fills in the password automatically. for the Apple Mac, I am having a hard time, because the built-in password manager keeps requesting the password for emails or websites which should be already registered and stored, but for some unknown reason, it deletes some of the passwords. I do not know the reason till today!
If on is using the Apple Password Manager and someone gains access to your Apple Password, does that compromise all of your stored passwords in the Apple password manager?
Great video! 👏👏👏 I use 1Password but use their option for "memorable" passwords instead of a completely random collection of numbers, letters, and symbols. My understanding was these memorable passwords are more than secure for one's needs and when you can't automatically enter your password, or copy-paste, a memorable password does make typing in the password easier. Am I incorrect in my understanding? For those who don't know what I mean, here is an example of a memorable password 1Password just created for this post... "sepsis-GENEVA-tabby-decimate." Sometimes I will add a number and or symbol to these memorable passwords if the site requires it.
What if I use the apple password manager most of the time, but then I want to log into a site from a chrome browser instead of safari? will I still have access to my passwords?
Not sure what that browser offers. They could support it, but I don't know if they do. Otherwise, you can always go to System Settings, Passwords to get your passwords. Not convenient, but possible.
Apple has an extension called “iCloud passwords” for Google Chrome. With this extension you will be able to use your passwords from Apples password manager directly in Google chrome.
im not the sharpest knife in the drawer - my defence is old age - but I've been trying to reset passwords, as per this video, and it is impossible. WTF! every time I go through the rigamarole of changing my banking password I end up back where I started: needing to change my password. any suggestions?
I’ve had that problem too but there is an ‘Other Options’ underneath the ‘Use Strong Password’ which allows you to customise the strong password to align with the website’s requirements. That revised password is then stored in the keychain as normal
I HATE 1Password since they went to a monthly subscription scheme. I’ve bought them multiple times over different versions but I no longer trust them with my data. I want a secure note/password manager that will sync over iCloud with my macs and iOS devices. I don’t mind paying, but I’m not effing renting one!
One-time payments for software was an unsustainable business model. Developers need to get paid for their work just like with any other job. I'm sure you wouldn't want your boss to pay you once and expect you to keep working for years after. If we expect to have good software moving forward, we need to support developers that switch to this model. It will mean they can develop and maintain software with the features really needed, not what the marketing people say will "sell new units and upgrades."
@@macmost Absolutely pure BS. Curiously, your response is almost verbatim what 1Password says ?? Create a new version, an upgrade, and charge for that, the same as always; I’ve bought several versions of 1Password. If I want new features I’ll upgrade, same as everything else, my Mac, my iPhone, my car, etc. I WILL NOT RENT SOFTWARE AS CRITICAL AS PASSWORD MANAGEMENT. You, and other apologists are ignoring the fact that I already paid full price for 1Password 7, and then the company is trying to force me to rent it. I do not trust developers who would be so sleazy to safeguard my critical data.
@@AV84USA I have no idea what 1Password has published about this. But not surprised they agree. Most major software developers have switched to this model at this point (Microsoft, Adobe, to name two big ones). For there to be good software in the future, developers need to have a sustainable revenue model whether you personally like it or not.
@@macmost how in the hell do you know if their software is good? You just punted and said these are the top password managers, some free some not. Anyone can go on the App Store and see what the top downloads are. And I disagree, a good revenue model is one that doesn’t piss off and alienate long time paying customers. (The same as you not wanting to offend any potential sponsors is a good revenue model for you) I wrote how I feel about their policy, and you attempting to educate me aren’t going to change my mind at all. I’ve been using 1Password a lot longer than I’ve been watching you, so your thoughts on their new business model are noted, but aren’t going to sway my opinion. I use a password manager to store my passwords and two or three secure notes, and have it sync across my Apple devices. That’s it! I don’t use the other bells and whistles, plug-ins, or other shovelware they insert to justify putting out updates every week. I believe I stated this in my original post. Renting this type of core utility is not something I’m going to do. However I do subscribe to Adobe products, but only because I extensively use and have paid to upgraded since Photoshop 2.5.
@@AV84USA "how in the hell do you know if their software is good?" A: Years of direct experience with some of them + recommendations from experts that I personally know and trust + a lifetime of keeping up with news and thoughtful commentary on this sector + a Computer Science education and years of experience. If you don't feel that this qualifies me to make some suggestions of apps to try, then fine I guess, won't argue with you.
There is no "app." It is built into the system (System Settings/Preferences, Passwords) and into Safari. It can be accessed in other apps when a password is requested.
I use both 1Password7 and Apple. I worry about the security on Apple. Not because they are not secure, but because my passcode for face id on my phone is just 6 digits. My 1password passsword is a complete sentence and very secure. I am not willing to require such a secure password for my Mac or iPhone. This, I think, is the achilles heel of Apple’s system.
Make your passcode longer then. In general, passcodes are shorter because they can't be used without physical access to the device. A malicious individual in another part of the world can't just force their way in with a million tries. They have to have your device, and they can only try one passcode and then have to wait (and you can limit it more). But if you want to make your passcode, say, 9 digits or a full keyboard password, then you have Face ID to help you limit the number of times you have to input that.
If someone were to break into your house or steal your iPhone and then hack into your devices, wouldn’t they then be able to use all of your passwords since the password manager would automatically fill in your passwords?
Yes, you should use a strong password for that. But keep in mind that a second factor is always needed. Either a two-factor code when logging into the service, or physical access to your unlocked device. It isn't as vulnerable as just an ID+password to a website or something like that.
I would have no problem if it would sink everywhere but it doesn't, especially on my iPhone, sometimes the app I want to use needs to have something I can remember, something easy. but everything else could sometimes sink with my other apple products.
very good video, thank you. My only disagreement is to NEVER print out a list of physical passwords, someone breaks into your home and finds that, breaks into or steals a safe, your life is probably ruined. If you are concerned about forgetting your master pwd or losing access, use a second password manager for free and do regular syncs between the two of them (using the export / import process). Store the master password for your primary pwd manager in the secondary pwd manager and vice versa. Never never never write down or print out a list of your passwords or keep an excel file or unencrypted digital copy of them.
I started with RoboForm years ago (pre-Apple) and then moved on to others. I like the features on 1Password so now use that. I’ve flirted with Keychain and think it’s well-worth using if you don’t know where to start.
Just wondering about when using say another browser. I use Firefox at times instead of Safari. What are my options in this case? ie. Can a site created p/w while using Firefox save to my Apple password manager? Is it a dumb question? I think sometimes a new p/w will 'migrate' to my Apple p/w manager? *And thank you for your helpful uploads Garry. They've helped me SO much over the years. 😉🙏🏻🇦🇺🦘
Firefox always has had it's own built-in password manager that is very efficient, and one of the reasons it's always been my default browser. Twenty years of using it and I've never been hacked by anyone anywhere. They also have the option for using a master password (which of course I always use) so if someone goes to a site where you've stored a password for, they have to enter your Firefox master password, or no access to your credentials. That person does have the option to enter their own login info and then choose whether to save that info also, or just not use the site at all on your computer. Your passwords are stored on your device, not in some cloud somewhere, which I find the most secure option of all. Granted I'm assuming that someone is using an account password when logging into their computer, and that they're using a different Firefox master password than their Apple account password. There is also the option to share between devices by creating a Firefox account, which will let you share your logins, bookmarks and tabs between more than one device. It's also very secure on a Windows run computer. Firefox also has the best built-in security and the easiest to use in order to configure and dump website data (cookies, cache, etc) from. Personally I can't stand Safari, it's built-in security and options to choose what you share is very basic and not very user friendly at all! I am always surprised about it being an Apple built app because of that. On any computer I setup for someone, I make sure that Firefox is the default browser, and no one has regretted it yet. Personally, I never actually type my passwords in anywhere, as they're stored in an encrypted, secure app (with yet another different password required, lol) on my computer -- you have four times to enter it's password, then the encrypted file is locked. When required to supply credentials, I just open that app, then copy and paste the required info in where needed. That allows me to create long complicated passwords that I never bother try to memorize cos I never bother to try to type them in anywhere, lol. In general though, I'm very careful where I go, and check website addresses when need be. I also created a couple of "throwaway" email addresses that I use only for membership type websites such as discussion boards -- or any website that I'm not completely sure of, but need to create an account with. That way if a site is less than honourable, then my main email address doesn't get hit with crap. This all might seem a lot of work, but once setup, it pretty much runs on it's own, and like I said, I've never been hacked or compromised in twenty years. There's always a compromise for things being easy, so I don't take that route, nor ever recommend it to anyone.
I'm not sure if it's a good idea to recommend LastPass, considering all of the trouble they've been into lately after their hack. Do you care to comment?
Well this video predates their late December announcement. You are right, I do not recommend LastPass now. Plenty of others to choose from, or just use iCloud.
I watched your video about a year ago when you spoke about password managers. I looked into using LastPass and signed up for it. Because I was a little scared to change all of my passwords at one time, I decided to just do a few each day to see how it worked. It was so easy and by the end of the week, I had changed all my passwords (almost 100) and I've never looked back!
Always nice when people report back after some time has passed. Good on you Diane!
Thanks Gary, I was a bit unsure about Password Manager. Didn’t realise it synced across other devices. Will be updated all my passwords asap
I completely agree I have been using Enpass for years now, and it's amazing. I started using it early on and am a legacy user. It works across my apple and windows devices. Nowadays, if you are not using a password manager, you are putting yourself at risk.
I'm using a password manager for over a year now and I'm never going back, the connivence and piece of mind alone are reason enough. I use Dashlane and it's been very reliable so far.
Apples own password manager has got much better recently and it’s now my default rather than Dashlane which I’ve been using for years. Nothing wrong with Dashlane just the Apple version is more seamless for me. Great video as always Gary.
Gary, you explain the problem very well. The problem is the Apple PW program has many other problems. I just got my new iPhone 15 Max and lost all my passwords in the transfer. Until the entire computer industry offers Facial ID or Finger Print ID or Iris retnal ID or Voice ID we will NEVER solve the password dilemma.
I agree with you. I’ve been using keychain since it started and went through a few years ago and updated all of my passwords with it, works great.
I also highly recommend using Apples hide my email feature as well.
I love Bitwarden! Highly recommended!
Totally agree with all the things you mention and started using a 3rd party password manager (1Password) a while back and am very happy with it. One teething problem that causes confusion is that I often find Apple's password manager and 1Password competing whenever I try to log on somewhere. Keen to hear how you deal with that. Thanks again for great content!
I use them both, so I let them both take in new passwords (I let Apple's system create the passwords). So then it doesn't matter when they compete. I usually just choose the Apple option since it is easier to click on.
@@nunuvyurbiz123 FYI - you CAN access notes for passwords in iOS. Go to Settings, Passwords and look for the entry.
I disabled the Safari one because of this. I assumed the 1Password was better
Hi Gary. Second time I‘ve watched this and it has occured to me that what‘s missing is a simple demo - show your viewers HOW it works. One of the reasons I came late to password mgrs was I wasn‘t sure how they worked exactly. (Yeah I could have read a bit more about it but nevertheless, a demo from the likes of yourself would‘ve helped greatly.)
Great advice, Rosey . Will do today👍👏🌟
I’ve used a plethora of password managers over the years; LastPass, 1Password, Dashlane, Enpass etc. and the one crux is having to pay for it on a monthly or yearly basis. I just use iCloud Keychain which has vastly improved during the years in terms of security sensitivity and more importantly, it’s free with iCloud.
Great video, Gary! I've been using 1Password for years, and I've been hearing, through them, about the coming Passkey protocol. Maybe that could be a topic for a future video.
Came here to suggest the same thing.
We have iMacs, iPad, MacBook, and of course, Android phones. So I use Keeper. It works so well and has great security features. I used to maintain our passwords in Numbers and kept a physical notebook but that was a headache and terribly not secure. We have over 100 accounts to track.
Love today’s class video tutorial! Apple products are the best in my opinion! Thank you, Gary! 👏🏻❤️
@macmost Gary, which password manager do you use?
I mainly using the built-in one (iCloud). But I also use 1Password.
Good advice, Gary. I’ve been pleasantly impressed by the built-in password manager. Thank you
I have a mix of technologies on my home network Mac, Windows, Linux, Android. I've been using KeypassXC for many years now. Cross platform for desktop, browser extension (Chrome and variants), open source, mobile app (Android - I have never had an iPhone), regularly updated and free. Sync is handled by Syncthing.
The obvious questions are - is the built in Apple password manager as good as the commercial ones and if so, how do you use it properly?
Third-party ones usually have more features and are cross-platform. But for just passwords to websites, Apple's system is certainly as good. As for using it properly: just use it. Use it to generate new passwords, use it to enter passwords. Nothing too complex about it.
@@macmost well said. great job with your video today. nothing wrong with a refresher course on password and how to manage them. Apple password manager is very easy to use especially for someone who is well into the Apple ecosystem
Good information. I had to use 1Password to log into RUclips to leave this comment. 🙂
I did not know about password manager, thanks Gary that was an interesting tutorial 👍
I use Bitwarden. Very happy with it.
I’ve been looking at my passwords and they’re all showing some kind of hazardous condition including used more than once and data breach but I’m not sure what to do. I even have some listed twice with user names in lowercase and capitalized. What should I do?
Oh yeah, your stuff is the best!
Case-by-case. If it is a weak password, then change it. If it is used more than once, check and see where. If the "same" site, like two related domains that represent one account, then that's fine. But if two truly different sites then time to change that password (in both places). Take it one a time, maybe a few a day.
@@macmost Thanks so much!
Yes! I've been using LastPass for years because I need a cross platform solution. Much better than the sticky note under the keyboard so many people use,
Good video, Gary. I use Apple’s KeyChain on iCloud and also copy any new Passwords to my eWallet, for extra security. This has proven invaluable.
Excellent video. Thanks.
Fully concur, would like to add another reason. Sometimes you want/need to share password with others (spouse, kids), with a password manager like 1Password you can create dedicated vaults for specific sharing situations.
Unfortunately this is not possible with Apple’s own pwmanager, that’s for personal usage only.
But you can Share a password via AirDrop. Very handy.
@@macmost so say, I wanted to share an Amazon account Password, because we share on Prime shipping, if son or daughter wanted the new password, I would have to,maybe copy and paste it to them in a text? Only way to share if they are not in the same room or house?
@@brentnutter1510 Right. No good solution to that using Apple's password manager if they are not with you. This would be an example of a feature that a third-party password manager would maybe have. Of course it won't be easy there either as you'd probably have to set up lots of things in advance and both of you would need to be using that third-party manager.
Could you describe exactly how to use Keychain and a 3rd party pw mgr on your device? In a previous post you said it was two clicks instead of one but I ‘m a real beginner and would appreciate steps. I find all your videos really helpful.
When you create a new password, you should get prompt from both to save it. Then when you go to enter a password you should see buttons/choices to fill in from both (you would choose just one).
Thank You very much, Gary!
I love your content!! you should do a video on Freeform (tips, tricks, etc.) - you're the best person to dig the best value out of software
Coming tomorrow.
Gary, I recently attempted to change the password on my google account and email. I was not aware, I actually created a Mac/google keychain passkey. It seems to work well, and eliminated the need for a separate password. The passkey was automatically saved to Mac passwords. It would not allow me to save it to 1password. I must say, I do not understand keychains/passkeys and how they work. Have you done or will you be doing a video on keychains? Thanks, Adam
Do you mean a video on passkeys? I would like to, but the fact that almost every web site handles them differently makes it hard. Like if I showed how to set it up with site A, then it would be different in site B and very confusing. Still hoping things improve before I do a video.
@@macmost ok. Thanks Gary
I've been using Passwordwallet like forever. Inexpensive, one time purchase, syncs thru DropBox on devices with pw apps on phone, iPad. All without "subscription" payments.
As someone with ABI (that’s why I can’t remember shortcuts when I need them) the password manager is a lifesaver. My only problem is that 1Password doesn’t keep my phone and iPad updated with what’s on the Mac so sometimes I’m denied access or my bank will ask for a changed password. Also one site rejected the 1Password suggestion because it was “too hard to remember” lol. Isn’t that the point?
1Password should sync across your devices. Look at your settings and see where you could have something set up wrong, because it definitely does that. As far as the password, there are controls for length and what is included.
Gary, Does Apple's built-in password manager work in non-Safari web browsers? What about applications? On all Apple devices, ie MBP and iPhones?
Apple has provided what developers need to do this. I think many apps do it. Not sure about the third-party browsers. Try it and see.
@@macmost Thank you. For some reason I'm no longer getting notices when people respond to my comments and questions. I only just discovered now that you replied two weeks ago. Have you a video that teaches us specifically how to use Apple's password manager? I'm looking, but I'm not sure if any of the ones I'm seeing do that. Thank you again.
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How do you go and update all your weak passwords to strong passwords using the apple password manager. And will this then sync across all my apple devices?
It syncs with iCloud, yes. There's no magic way to update passwords since each site and service does it differently. You just have to do it one-by-one, prioritizing important sites (example: email first, then financial, then work, then social, etc.).
I didn't see mSecure password manager listed in the big four. I have had it for years. Works well but doesn't seem to get much press.
I remember reading an article (6-7 years ago) about the companies behind password management apps. Google and Apple were just about the only American owned companies, most were Chinese corporations and the bulk of them (save just a few) had ownership ties to Chinese corporations (I.e. based in Norway but majority owned by Chinese owners.) They played down the impact of the companies owned by Chinese corporations, but the percentage alone scared me. So if you’re looking for a third party password manager, look into the company first! Just because it’s on the google, apple or Microsoft app stores doesn’t mean it’s safe.
@@pseudoki - Only in the sense that China has proven itself to not be friendly or honest in its business dealings. They are literally THE hacking capital of the world, so why would I want to trust China with my passwords?
@@pseudoki I forgot to say thanks, I’ll check them out! 👍🏽😎
As far as I can see, LastPass and DashLane are in the US, 1Password is Canada.
@@macmost - Also good to know, thanks!
American owned companies can be as much dangerous and not reliable, as chinese owned. In my opinion, most trustworthy companies are from Europe, because it has strict laws and tradition to make quality products and from Russia, because it has the best mathematician school and talented programmers. European and russian companies doesn't hold monopolies like american or chinese and they tend to offer their customers better, safer products to be competitive. At the end, usually it doesn't matter where the company is located as far as it is a good company. It is always better to judge individually.
I have used 1Password for years, should I start using Apple's Password manager? I am only using Apple devices.
Either one. Or both. The important thing is just that you are using one.
I have found that a problem with using a password manager and complicated passwords is that some sites will not allow the password manager to fill in the password, nor will it allow us to copy and paste the password, nor will it allow us to switch tabs back-n-forth as we try to fill in the password. It only allows us to fill in the password manually and in one go.
This should be very rare now. Any site worth anything would know that password managers are how people do things.
I’ve been using Apple’s password manager for some time and it generally works great, but I’ve had one problem. I went through and cleaned up my old passwords, getting rid of sites I no longer use, but the old passwords then came back. Any idea what would cause this?
Perhaps you didn't delete them like you thought? I'd experiment and delete one again and see what happens.
I've been using a password manager for years, and not all times it fills in the password automatically. for the Apple Mac, I am having a hard time, because the built-in password manager keeps requesting the password for emails or websites which should be already registered and stored, but for some unknown reason, it deletes some of the passwords. I do not know the reason till today!
If on is using the Apple Password Manager and someone gains access to your Apple Password, does that compromise all of your stored passwords in the Apple password manager?
Do you mean your iCloud password? They would need more than that. They would need the two-factor code too.
Great video! 👏👏👏 I use 1Password but use their option for "memorable" passwords instead of a completely random collection of numbers, letters, and symbols. My understanding was these memorable passwords are more than secure for one's needs and when you can't automatically enter your password, or copy-paste, a memorable password does make typing in the password easier. Am I incorrect in my understanding? For those who don't know what I mean, here is an example of a memorable password 1Password just created for this post... "sepsis-GENEVA-tabby-decimate." Sometimes I will add a number and or symbol to these memorable passwords if the site requires it.
Thanks, Gary! Is ENPASS a good Password Manager?
I haven't heard of it so I can't tell you anything about it, sorry.
@@macmost Ok, Gary. Enpass is a well-known password manager. Thanks anyway.
What if I use the apple password manager most of the time, but then I want to log into a site from a chrome browser instead of safari? will I still have access to my passwords?
Not sure what that browser offers. They could support it, but I don't know if they do. Otherwise, you can always go to System Settings, Passwords to get your passwords. Not convenient, but possible.
Apple has an extension called “iCloud passwords” for Google Chrome. With this extension you will be able to use your passwords from Apples password manager directly in Google chrome.
im not the sharpest knife in the drawer - my defence is old age - but I've been trying to reset passwords, as per this video, and it is impossible. WTF! every time I go through the rigamarole of changing my banking password I end up back where I started: needing to change my password. any suggestions?
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keychain doesn’t work on chromium browsers on mac os
actually I used apple password manager and my second choice is Dashline
Surprised no mention of Secrets for Mac and iOS, was a 1password user but switched a while back, inexpensive and works well
I have some apps the password manager does not work
I have hasd issues with Apple's password manager not generating passwords in the format or size that a website wants it in. What do you do then?
I’ve had that problem too but there is an ‘Other Options’ underneath the ‘Use Strong Password’ which allows you to customise the strong password to align with the website’s requirements.
That revised password is then stored in the keychain as normal
@@stevelevy4754 Yes, this was added in macOS Ventura.
This function has been added in Safari for Intel Macs also. I am using it with MBA 2017.
@@bharatkiseema Yes, it is in Ventura. It doesn't rely on the processor type.
I HATE 1Password since they went to a monthly subscription scheme. I’ve bought them multiple times over different versions but I no longer trust them with my data. I want a secure note/password manager that will sync over iCloud with my macs and iOS devices.
I don’t mind paying, but I’m not effing renting one!
One-time payments for software was an unsustainable business model. Developers need to get paid for their work just like with any other job. I'm sure you wouldn't want your boss to pay you once and expect you to keep working for years after. If we expect to have good software moving forward, we need to support developers that switch to this model. It will mean they can develop and maintain software with the features really needed, not what the marketing people say will "sell new units and upgrades."
@@macmost Absolutely pure BS. Curiously, your response is almost verbatim what 1Password says ??
Create a new version, an upgrade, and charge for that, the same as always; I’ve bought several versions of 1Password. If I want new features I’ll upgrade, same as everything else, my Mac, my iPhone, my car, etc. I WILL NOT RENT SOFTWARE AS CRITICAL AS PASSWORD MANAGEMENT.
You, and other apologists are ignoring the fact that I already paid full price for 1Password 7, and then the company is trying to force me to rent it. I do not trust developers who would be so sleazy to safeguard my critical data.
@@AV84USA I have no idea what 1Password has published about this. But not surprised they agree. Most major software developers have switched to this model at this point (Microsoft, Adobe, to name two big ones). For there to be good software in the future, developers need to have a sustainable revenue model whether you personally like it or not.
@@macmost how in the hell do you know if their software is good? You just punted and said these are the top password managers, some free some not. Anyone can go on the App Store and see what the top downloads are. And I disagree, a good revenue model is one that doesn’t piss off and alienate long time paying customers. (The same as you not wanting to offend any potential sponsors is a good revenue model for you)
I wrote how I feel about their policy, and you attempting to educate me aren’t going to change my mind at all. I’ve been using 1Password a lot longer than I’ve been watching you, so your thoughts on their new business model are noted, but aren’t going to sway my opinion.
I use a password manager to store my passwords and two or three secure notes, and have it sync across my Apple devices. That’s it! I don’t use the other bells and whistles, plug-ins, or other shovelware they insert to justify putting out updates every week. I believe I stated this in my original post. Renting this type of core utility is not something I’m going to do. However I do subscribe to Adobe products, but only because I extensively use and have paid to upgraded since Photoshop 2.5.
@@AV84USA "how in the hell do you know if their software is good?" A: Years of direct experience with some of them + recommendations from experts that I personally know and trust + a lifetime of keeping up with news and thoughtful commentary on this sector + a Computer Science education and years of experience. If you don't feel that this qualifies me to make some suggestions of apps to try, then fine I guess, won't argue with you.
Whats the name of the built in app from apple?
There is no "app." It is built into the system (System Settings/Preferences, Passwords) and into Safari. It can be accessed in other apps when a password is requested.
I agree, and I pay for a password manager. but I don’t use it; Idon’t know how to use it and I pay my bills on my IPhone, my Mac mini or my work pc.
One disadvantage of iOS keychain is that the list with old/obsolete password grows with the time.
What happened to passkeys? Have they released it yet?
It is part of macOS Ventura. Now we just have to wait for more sites to adopt it.
Thanks bunches
I use both 1Password7 and Apple. I worry about the security on Apple. Not because they are not secure, but because my passcode for face id on my phone is just 6 digits. My 1password passsword is a complete sentence and very secure. I am not willing to require such a secure password for my Mac or iPhone. This, I think, is the achilles heel of Apple’s system.
Make your passcode longer then. In general, passcodes are shorter because they can't be used without physical access to the device. A malicious individual in another part of the world can't just force their way in with a million tries. They have to have your device, and they can only try one passcode and then have to wait (and you can limit it more). But if you want to make your passcode, say, 9 digits or a full keyboard password, then you have Face ID to help you limit the number of times you have to input that.
@@macmost Thank you. Good points
What about Keepass?
Haven't used it, but have heard of it. Don't know much about it, sorry.
If someone were to break into your house or steal your iPhone and then hack into your devices, wouldn’t they then be able to use all of your passwords since the password manager would automatically fill in your passwords?
How would they "hack into your devices" exactly?
@@macmost if they figured out your Apple password and unlocked your devices.
@@jamesshrouds4130 But how do they figure out your password?
but if your master password is very "guessable" then you are still in trouble correct?
Yes, you should use a strong password for that. But keep in mind that a second factor is always needed. Either a two-factor code when logging into the service, or physical access to your unlocked device. It isn't as vulnerable as just an ID+password to a website or something like that.
@@macmost awe thank you Gary!
I would have no problem if it would sink everywhere but it doesn't, especially on my iPhone, sometimes the app I want to use needs to have something I can remember, something easy.
but everything else could sometimes sink with my other apple products.
how to access built in password manager?
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@@macmost Safari preferences now Safi settings in Ventura
@@macmost Sari preferences now Sari settings in Ventura. Thx again Gary.My hero.
@@macmost Found by typing passwords in setting gets you there too
very good video, thank you. My only disagreement is to NEVER print out a list of physical passwords, someone breaks into your home and finds that, breaks into or steals a safe, your life is probably ruined. If you are concerned about forgetting your master pwd or losing access, use a second password manager for free and do regular syncs between the two of them (using the export / import process). Store the master password for your primary pwd manager in the secondary pwd manager and vice versa. Never never never write down or print out a list of your passwords or keep an excel file or unencrypted digital copy of them.
I assume if I need to access my passwords from a non-Apple computer I won’t be able to? This scares me usually
Only with Apple's password manager. If you are cross-platform then that's a good reason to use a third-party one.
I started with RoboForm years ago (pre-Apple) and then moved on to others. I like the features on 1Password so now use that. I’ve flirted with Keychain and think it’s well-worth using if you don’t know where to start.
I use Mac, Windows, iOS and Android, so 1Password has worked best for me with its ability to sync across all platforms.
Just wondering about when using say another browser. I use Firefox at times instead of Safari. What are my options in this case?
ie. Can a site created p/w while using Firefox save to my Apple password manager? Is it a dumb question? I think sometimes a new p/w will 'migrate' to my Apple p/w manager?
*And thank you for your helpful uploads Garry. They've helped me SO much over the years. 😉🙏🏻🇦🇺🦘
Not sure if Firefox integrates with it yet. Try it and see.
Firefox always has had it's own built-in password manager that is very efficient, and one of the reasons it's always been my default browser. Twenty years of using it and I've never been hacked by anyone anywhere. They also have the option for using a master password (which of course I always use) so if someone goes to a site where you've stored a password for, they have to enter your Firefox master password, or no access to your credentials. That person does have the option to enter their own login info and then choose whether to save that info also, or just not use the site at all on your computer. Your passwords are stored on your device, not in some cloud somewhere, which I find the most secure option of all. Granted I'm assuming that someone is using an account password when logging into their computer, and that they're using a different Firefox master password than their Apple account password. There is also the option to share between devices by creating a Firefox account, which will let you share your logins, bookmarks and tabs between more than one device. It's also very secure on a Windows run computer.
Firefox also has the best built-in security and the easiest to use in order to configure and dump website data (cookies, cache, etc) from. Personally I can't stand Safari, it's built-in security and options to choose what you share is very basic and not very user friendly at all! I am always surprised about it being an Apple built app because of that. On any computer I setup for someone, I make sure that Firefox is the default browser, and no one has regretted it yet. Personally, I never actually type my passwords in anywhere, as they're stored in an encrypted, secure app (with yet another different password required, lol) on my computer -- you have four times to enter it's password, then the encrypted file is locked. When required to supply credentials, I just open that app, then copy and paste the required info in where needed. That allows me to create long complicated passwords that I never bother try to memorize cos I never bother to try to type them in anywhere, lol. In general though, I'm very careful where I go, and check website addresses when need be. I also created a couple of "throwaway" email addresses that I use only for membership type websites such as discussion boards -- or any website that I'm not completely sure of, but need to create an account with. That way if a site is less than honourable, then my main email address doesn't get hit with crap. This all might seem a lot of work, but once setup, it pretty much runs on it's own, and like I said, I've never been hacked or compromised in twenty years. There's always a compromise for things being easy, so I don't take that route, nor ever recommend it to anyone.
@@theantikaren Very interesting. Thank you for adding this extensive comment! 😉🙏🏻
I'm not sure if it's a good idea to recommend LastPass, considering all of the trouble they've been into lately after their hack. Do you care to comment?
Well this video predates their late December announcement. You are right, I do not recommend LastPass now. Plenty of others to choose from, or just use iCloud.
@@macmost I use BItwarden and went for the Premium version. It's been a good experience, so far.