When I play it my whole arm to the fucking shoulder gets tired like I was doing push ups on one hand for a week straight. I think this riff is necessary if you want to have full control over your wrist, endurance and speed. upd: learned it/playing it nonstop full song. Amazing track really cachy and fun to play.
"Only wrist" is literally the only possible way to do it. My picking technique is quite different compared to these guys, but when you (attempt to) play "Bleed", you have to do it their way. Otherwise it's literally impossible to pick up that much speed in that short amount of time.
he's also playing a lot lighter than most people realize. Learning this song also sort of forced me into adopting Frederik's "floating" pick-hand posture/technique...I used to play more like Marten where I had the middle, ring and pinky fingers extended outwards and making contact with either the strings or body of the guitar depending. It only took maybe a day or two to get used to keeping my hand in more of a fist, but admittedly it felt extremely awkward and out of control at first. It's much more precise and allows me to play faster without a doubt.
@@isansimpson2056 you're right, you'll engage different muscles when you anchor your hand/fingers. It's much "floatier" when you don't but strange feeling to me
Then you don't need an 8-9 string to play Meshuggah haha At least by trying the main riff you manage to learn rhythm and a different approch to the picking technique to manage more speed and also endurance.
I remember walking the tracks with our guitars and amps about 2 miles to each others houses to jam. We were amazed when we first started figuring out Iron Maiden Powerslave , that was around 1985 . Then we struggled thru some of Ride the Lightening ......but Meshuggah is just off the hook . Even back in '85 I know we woulda liked Meshuggah. Great band !
This song basically reinvented guitar complexity. It went the exact opposite direction of a Malmsteen-type song. Instead of playing a bajillion notes in a riff, fuck that: play like 5, but in the most fucked up way imaginable.
You’re re-writing history and skipping a decade of tech metal development. Tech, prog and hardcore bands have essentially been creating their own sound in the last 2 decades. While Meshuggah is influential, Bleed came along after an already long history of songwriting. Destroy. Erase. Improve has had more influence on genre than anything else they’ve released. Bleed is popular NOW. But 12 years ago when I posted this video, no one really cared. Just progheads.
@@DrOctatonic *"Tech, prog and hardcore bands have essentially been creating their own sound in the last 2 decades."* I never said otherwise. Bleed being innovative and other bands being innovative can both be true at the same time. And how many people cared isn't a factor either way; there are so many innovative bands that nobody cared about at the time when they were making music, but they were still the progenitors because they gained recognition over time.
@@MarkArandjus no, he’s right. Next time you leave a comment on a RUclips video, I expect a multi-volume, in-depth account of the full musical history that led to this video, including quotations from prominent historical figures, both living and dead. Also make sure to cover the significance of every musical era dating back to the baroque era. Please and thank you.
i know rigfht haha... i can play decrepit birth stuff but still can't even touch this riff. it's too tiring on my tendons. who the fuck can do this haha. and on drums... oh shit
@@420protoman yeah the drums are ABSURD. The guitar is tricky enough, but with the drums he’s doing it with his feet while also keeping a consistent 4/4 pattern with the hands. Actually absurd.
also Brandon Bruce - it's because they've aged well. some of the sickest bands a decade or two ago are completely irrelevant now, even bands still touring and releasing music. seems like musicians have a tendency to emulate the sound/style that culminated in their success or are just reluctant to make any dramatic changes to their sound because there's like a good like 30% of people who will throw a tantrum because they're not writing music that sounds exactly the same as all of their other music lol. Bring Me the Horizon comes to mind. folks went mental when Sykes started singing and their style got a little less heavy. same with Veil of Maya, there's a new vocalist or whatever on their newer album. the one with all the Game of Thrones references in the song titles lol. dude's cleans are crazy awesome, but there were still a handful of clowns still started crying about them trying new shit. Meshuggah is the kind of band that you can hear a distinct progression of sound/style throughout all of their albums and it's keeping people interested. Dir en Grey is the same way, almost every album they release is different from the last. still filling stadiums and shit. they're like Japan's version of Slipknot in terms of popularity.
1:35 this pattern is easily the hardest part of the song. It’s so easy to get lost in that pattern and lose where you are in it. It’s even harder after the solo, where the pattern starts midway into it. Once you get the main strumming pattern and endurance for the opening riff, you will feel like a god, only for the Nordic gods to come and smack you for your pride because you have another 6 minutes of odd patterns to deal with. However, learning Bleed is one of my proudest guitar achievements
to me the hardest parts are the intro riff variation where you play the gallop alternating from the F string back to the E string because the change in tension always kills me and I'm already fatigued at that point. and the riff where you gallop on the 3rd fret of the E string and then drop down for a single F note. but I keep on learning because getting the gallop right is so satisfying when it works out
Playing any part of bleed is an achievement. I’m primarily a bass player and played with fingers most of my life. Only started playing with a pick in more recent years and even when I’m strumming my absolute fastest it still sounds slow as hell compared to bleed.
"You're in a territory where the focus is on pretty much the same thing, it's about playing guitar in a regular manner. This is, this is, uh, a rhythmic exercise" Priceless ^^
@@officialmetalwill cool, post a video of you playing this as smooth and effortlessly as he does. I would say you obviously don’t know much about music if you don’t think there’s anything special here. The intricacy of the picking pattern is insane.
It also absolutely requires a metronome which is hard for some people to accept. But moving in and out of the time signature like this is nuts without it.
I like to play Jambi better than I like to play Bleed because it has a similar pattern but the herta is made by the fretting hand. Instead of wrist cramps you just burn a hole in the pad of your index finger 😂😂😂
@@drumkidstu doesn't matter It is still 3/4 By the way it makes no difference for a guitar player since you have your own pattern and you actually do not need to count times
@@awrely The band who are experts at their music would say it's in 4/4 so I'll stick with the experts. Plus if you watch them live they all headbang to the 4/4 groove just saying.
@ARebuffi It's called a herta, from a drummer perspective. In 4/4, it's two 16th notes and two 8th notes repeating over and over again, which really makes it 3/4 if it was continuous. But Meshuggah are the masters of polyrhythms. Hertas are really fun in 12/8 as well, because the two 16ths + two 8ths = three 8th notes, so you can fit hertas into a measure. Bleed is just a glorified rhythm exercise like he says.
Meshuggah changed my life. Go watch Straws Pulled at Random, first the album version, then the live version video on here. I'm sure lots of Meshuggah fans would say it's cliche, but it's one of the most perfectly executed.. it's just an absolute piece of art, put into sound.
Im going right now, since the 1st time i heard them got instantly envolved with Meshuggah and Djent. Strong estatement and thank you for the suggestion :)
The most awesome thing about this way of playing other than time and signal changing is the fact that it's rooted on a lot of rhythem technique. I just bought a Schecter Hellraiser Special C-8 that will be at my home on Friday. I can not wait to dive in this way of playing guitar.
i can't get over the intro riff to Bleed. Watching this video over and over again just makes you think that there not of this earth which in fact they're not. Farout especially hearing this live when i last saw them, as tight as fuck man, freaks of nature. Luv Meshuggah, gotta luv em!!!!
Bleed riff should be listed one of the best guitar riffs ever written. It's so simple yet so compelling. Hope its get credited the same way as classic riffs like Pantera - Walk.
@@officialmetalwill This is not a basic gallop pattern. A basic gallop pattern consists of three notes (16/16/8). There are four notes in this riff (16/16/8/8) and the one "added" at the end of every gallop is played with an upstroke. So yes, playing that for seven minutes (and there are further variations of it as the song progresses) with precision, in time, at that tempo and together with other guitars and drums (which have their own unique pattern with cymbals, that do not "match" the guitar riff for majority of the time) is really, really amazing.
As said previously, 8 strings. Frederik probably got the Iceman around the time they started touring, maybe even before Obzen was recorded. A Latin jazz musician playing Meshuggah? That would be interesting to hear. Someone who is a Latin jazz musician will probably see this post and upload a video of their attempt at a song like Future Breed Machine or even Closed Eye Visuals.
I love a good droning riff. Alice in chains, meshuggah, deftones etc. They all write some pretty awesome droney riffs. Reminds me of a lawnmower for some reason. Lol
yessss I always thought jerry Cantrell had a very late 80's dissonant shred kind of style and always played in the lower frets for riffs and solos and always thought he was one of the most underrated guitarists of all time and really got the ball moving for g and L guitars and khaler locking bridge systems.
It's just 4 4 time signature, pretty basic rhythm once you get it down though, just triplets and semiquavers (16ths) strung together in the same pattern for each part, doesn't stray too far from the basic intro riff once you get that down
It's definitely beyond my guitar playing capabilities. And it does look hard. However I look at it and go, I MIGHT be able to play that with enough practice. On the other hand I watch, listen and observe Haakes drumming and just shake my head in bewilderment with the easy acceptance that never could I ever replicate that.
he's playing the majority of it on the open Eb string, then switching to the Bb string to replicate the note with a slightly different tone & to do the bend. they're fussy like that, it's why they get such interesting sounds I think
It's also easier to pick for longer periods of time on a thinner string. If you try and learn this song the difference in stamina needed for playing on the open E versus always on the fretted B is very noticeable.
i met marten in San Diego when they played at the house of blues with the Faceless and Cynic. he is such a talkative guy. really nice too. Meshuggah was absolutely amazing live. i would love to see them again.
goddamnitt its been five years yet still this riff is not playable, by me i mean... so simple yet so deadly fuck... hw do move my right hand that fuckin fast, so fucking fassstttttt
+ane urme try to focus on ur fingers,if u get to use ur fingers right when u're moving ur whole hand u will achive it,its a technical move but sadly i forgot the name since its been 10 years that i have not play instruments.
The picking part is actually pretty simple when you slow it down. The pattern used for the right hand is a gallop followed by an upstroke, so it would be this for the first verse: DUD, U, DUD, U, DUD, U, and so on until the next verse. Verse 2: DUD, U, D, U, DUD, U, D, U, DUD, U, D, U, and so on. Hope this helps! 😊🤘
when people start getting exhausted, they have a tendency to tense up and clutch their picks harder to make smaller and more controlled movements and try to conserve as much effort as possible, but it's counterproductive. the muscles in your forearms that start hurting after a while are the same muscles responsible for articulating your fingers, so when you start squeezing the pick, you immediately start wasting effort. it's more or less the same story with forcing our arm to make smaller movements, you unnecessarily waste effort trying to keep your hand/fingers from moving too much. try to relax. it's easier said than done and it's a hard habit to break, but you'll notice a difference in endurance pretty quickly. it'll still hurt like a bitch for a while, but the more you power through it, the easier it gets the next time you play it. i've been using the song as an exercise for a couple of years now and it still makes a motherfucker sore.
its called variety... if youve ever played an 8 string, its completely different to a 6 or even a 7... it takes skill, and theseguys not only pull it of brilliantly but write some amazing riffs to.. kick ass video :)
Fluffed Pillows How long you havve been playing guitar? look up the john petrucci spider exercise, you will get faster on the right and left hand. And excersice on a slow level 16th notes with metronome and get slowly faster. I don't say it is easy but it is not imposible, I can play it at 190bpm and started at 80 bpm(had trouble with the rhythm at the beginning) . There are other songs like nights blood from dissection with 215pbm with I find for my self harder play
you're absolutely right, but what makes this interesting, is that in most songs eventually they will start playing in the same signature, this is not the case here. Amazing.
The hard part isn't necessarily the speed (which is very difficult, dont get me wrong), it's the time signature and keeping it at that time signature, then switching to a different time signature. Meshuggah uses odd timings. And many of their songs have multiple time signatures at one time.
I love the concept here. This is whats called an "Extended Hemiolla" Basically what it means is that the guitars are in 3/4 (a really fast 1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3) and the drums are in 4/4/ and they never correct with each other. Amazing.
I know I know, I mean I've played millenium cyanide christ and I mainly used 2 strings through the song. It's cool how you can pull of amazing tight riffs with few tricky patterns. Haven't listened to the new cd much yet though but bleed sounds good.
@Mohamed636 this song is in F, in a eight string guitar this is: Eight= F2 Seventh= A#2 Sixth = D#3 Fifth = G#3 Forth = C#4 Third = F#4 Second = A#4 First = D#5 I learned it in six string, by pitchin' down the sixth string like the eight and beyond!
@bennyvx08 The guys in Meshuggah use Fractal Audio's Axe-Fx, now, which is digital. I'm not sure if they run through cabs or straight to the PA live. A "normal" amp will work just fine with an 8-string, as long as you know how to EQ and don't use too much gain.
@AdamFreakinWest - well said. Rhythmic precision. I've been playing for years, and this is gonna take me 2 months and a metronome. Sounds amazing on it's own too, IMO!
From a rhythmic perspective, this is an extremely simple riff, just a 5/4 gallop pattern where there's a 32nd/16th gallop, repeated, but it's so fast it's impossible for me right now, yet they make it look like the simplest thing ever.
Can't get over how relaxed his arm is. All in the wrist.
When I play it my whole arm to the fucking shoulder gets tired like I was doing push ups on one hand for a week straight. I think this riff is necessary if you want to have full control over your wrist, endurance and speed.
upd: learned it/playing it nonstop full song. Amazing track really cachy and fun to play.
"Only wrist" is literally the only possible way to do it. My picking technique is quite different compared to these guys, but when you (attempt to) play "Bleed", you have to do it their way. Otherwise it's literally impossible to pick up that much speed in that short amount of time.
he's also playing a lot lighter than most people realize. Learning this song also sort of forced me into adopting Frederik's "floating" pick-hand posture/technique...I used to play more like Marten where I had the middle, ring and pinky fingers extended outwards and making contact with either the strings or body of the guitar depending. It only took maybe a day or two to get used to keeping my hand in more of a fist, but admittedly it felt extremely awkward and out of control at first. It's much more precise and allows me to play faster without a doubt.
Efficient movements
@@isansimpson2056 you're right, you'll engage different muscles when you anchor your hand/fingers. It's much "floatier" when you don't but strange feeling to me
Never has more been done with less. Bleed is a milestone in metal. Fact.
No thanks to them. Mediocre track with Nobel worth drumming.
Open mouth sir and let me piss, fact.
@@m4rcin847 *click* this one's going in my cringe compilation
@@m4rcin847play it then
more is more!
It improve
It groove
But most importantly,
It move.
Dude you killed me with that comment xD
It Destroy Erase Improve
@@whereisevan Fuck I came here to write that
I almost fainted 🤣😫💀
Destroyed, Erased & Improved
"IT MOVES" OK FREDRIK THE SONG IS MUCH EASIER TO PLAY NOW
TeddyGNOP I guess they're extremely smart but they don't realize it and they think they're explaining stuff clearly.
or maybe they're just regular idiots like you or me that just happen to write good music
TeddyGNOP Even though in their music they often sound like they have some sort of PhD.
try to play it. it's more structured than you think lol.
God bless them for playing the main riff on the E string, giving us all a fighting chance
Then you don't need an 8-9 string to play Meshuggah haha
At least by trying the main riff you manage to learn rhythm and a different approch to the picking technique to manage more speed and also endurance.
sounds like a top fuel dragster idling at the starting line .
This is the most perfect definition of Bleed's patterns. Thank you.
AvocaSingleTrack dude great analogy!!!!
I remember walking the tracks with our guitars and amps about 2 miles to each others houses to jam. We were amazed when we first started figuring out Iron Maiden Powerslave , that was around 1985 . Then we struggled thru some of Ride the Lightening ......but Meshuggah is just off the hook . Even back in '85 I know we woulda liked Meshuggah. Great band !
hahaha best fuckin comment ever
AvocaSingleTrack she got a cam in her
This song basically reinvented guitar complexity. It went the exact opposite direction of a Malmsteen-type song. Instead of playing a bajillion notes in a riff, fuck that: play like 5, but in the most fucked up way imaginable.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're exactly right.
Most fucked up rhythmic pattern imaginable
You’re re-writing history and skipping a decade of tech metal development. Tech, prog and hardcore bands have essentially been creating their own sound in the last 2 decades. While Meshuggah is influential, Bleed came along after an already long history of songwriting. Destroy. Erase. Improve has had more influence on genre than anything else they’ve released.
Bleed is popular NOW. But 12 years ago when I posted this video, no one really cared. Just progheads.
@@DrOctatonic *"Tech, prog and hardcore bands have essentially been creating their own sound in the last 2 decades."*
I never said otherwise. Bleed being innovative and other bands being innovative can both be true at the same time. And how many people cared isn't a factor either way; there are so many innovative bands that nobody cared about at the time when they were making music, but they were still the progenitors because they gained recognition over time.
@@MarkArandjus no, he’s right. Next time you leave a comment on a RUclips video, I expect a multi-volume, in-depth account of the full musical history that led to this video, including quotations from prominent historical figures, both living and dead. Also make sure to cover the significance of every musical era dating back to the baroque era. Please and thank you.
@@jeffg329 x)
This is one of the hardest riffs I've ever tried to play. Grats.
i know rigfht haha... i can play decrepit birth stuff but still can't even touch this riff. it's too tiring on my tendons. who the fuck can do this haha. and on drums... oh shit
420protoman
My thought of somebody trying to play this on drums: Poor bastard.
Danadrol Slin Bayer I sing this song fucking pleb
+420protoman dude I’m exactly the same, anything like decrepit birth, death I can get a good grasp of but bleed.... jesus
@@420protoman yeah the drums are ABSURD. The guitar is tricky enough, but with the drums he’s doing it with his feet while also keeping a consistent 4/4 pattern with the hands. Actually absurd.
This one song sold so many 8 string and 9 string guitars. So much djent , now everyone wants to djent. Can't blame em.
You can djent just as well on a baritone 6 string guitar
Abdullah true, but 7 strings and 8 strings are so much cooler! And that extra range is really nice too.
@@Abdullah-cj2mh You can Djent on a Les Paul with a high enough string gauge.
I djent in 1 string.
I hate that word lol
these guys are robots man, keep those rythims while headbanging on stage is inhuman :O All Hail Meshuggah!
people don't realise how long these guys have been doing this stuff though. Theyve been playing for longer then i've been alive
also Brandon Bruce - it's because they've aged well. some of the sickest bands a decade or two ago are completely irrelevant now, even bands still touring and releasing music. seems like musicians have a tendency to emulate the sound/style that culminated in their success or are just reluctant to make any dramatic changes to their sound because there's like a good like 30% of people who will throw a tantrum because they're not writing music that sounds exactly the same as all of their other music lol.
Bring Me the Horizon comes to mind. folks went mental when Sykes started singing and their style got a little less heavy. same with Veil of Maya, there's a new vocalist or whatever on their newer album. the one with all the Game of Thrones references in the song titles lol. dude's cleans are crazy awesome, but there were still a handful of clowns still started crying about them trying new shit.
Meshuggah is the kind of band that you can hear a distinct progression of sound/style throughout all of their albums and it's keeping people interested. Dir en Grey is the same way, almost every album they release is different from the last. still filling stadiums and shit. they're like Japan's version of Slipknot in terms of popularity.
Facts, nice opeth logo too
@@Anomalocaria watch some of their old performances and they head bang the entire show
Indeed man these guys are gods
1:35 this pattern is easily the hardest part of the song. It’s so easy to get lost in that pattern and lose where you are in it. It’s even harder after the solo, where the pattern starts midway into it. Once you get the main strumming pattern and endurance for the opening riff, you will feel like a god, only for the Nordic gods to come and smack you for your pride because you have another 6 minutes of odd patterns to deal with. However, learning Bleed is one of my proudest guitar achievements
Weird, to me the pattern after the solo is way easier because I don't have to time the left hand note press
to me the hardest parts are the intro riff variation where you play the gallop alternating from the F string back to the E string because the change in tension always kills me and I'm already fatigued at that point. and the riff where you gallop on the 3rd fret of the E string and then drop down for a single F note. but I keep on learning because getting the gallop right is so satisfying when it works out
Playing any part of bleed is an achievement. I’m primarily a bass player and played with fingers most of my life. Only started playing with a pick in more recent years and even when I’m strumming my absolute fastest it still sounds slow as hell compared to bleed.
I love fredriks input in this video
Fredrik: It... move *circle hand motion*
GOOD ONE
Straight to the point this guy
The secret to liking Meshuggah is to appreciate breakdowns consisting solely of rhythms aligning.
WOW! Their rhythmic control by the right hand is unhuman! The technics, the elegance, the solidity and the art at the highest level!
"You're in a territory where the focus is on pretty much the same thing, it's about playing guitar in a regular manner. This is, this is, uh, a rhythmic exercise"
Priceless ^^
"It... Mooove..."
I wonder how many people REALLY appreciate the uniqueness of Meshuggahs style and complexity, not just rythmically, but tonally as well.
People mostly look at the rhythm aspect, and while that is of course the USP the atmosphere Meshuggah create seem to be lost on a lot of listeners.
Most people never head of Meshuggah, just we metal heads.
great video i can play the whole song perfectly now
GOOD ONE
Did you figure out how “it…move…” yet? LOL seriously though, took me a while to get this down. You got it!
that picking is insane
No it isn't. Any beginner playing metal should be able to do that. It's a pretty basic gallop pattern.
@@officialmetalwill bruh
@@officialmetalwill L comment + ratio bozo
@@officialmetalwill it's not a basic gallop, its a gallop with 2 "8th" notes instead of 1 wich changes everything in terms of rythmic difficulty
@@officialmetalwill tf you on bro
His picking technique is unbelievable. Never seen such consistent playing with the wrist.
You obviously don't listen to much music or watch many people play. There is absolutely nothing special about the playing here.
@@officialmetalwill Who are you again? Nobody asked for your shitty opinion lmfao
@@officialmetalwill what?
@@officialmetalwill cool, post a video of you playing this as smooth and effortlessly as he does. I would say you obviously don’t know much about music if you don’t think there’s anything special here. The intricacy of the picking pattern is insane.
The greatest picking technique in metal belongs to Mr. James Hetfield
Man that rhythm is just insane and that breakup is genius.
The pattern is actually pretty simple, the problem is the endurance. After a while I get cramps in my wrist!
And also the boredom. I get bored of it after 1 minute. Very boring and repetitive.
@@pmaster1173 Add notes.
It also absolutely requires a metronome which is hard for some people to accept. But moving in and out of the time signature like this is nuts without it.
@@XMetalChefX It move?
I like to play Jambi better than I like to play Bleed because it has a similar pattern but the herta is made by the fretting hand. Instead of wrist cramps you just burn a hole in the pad of your index finger 😂😂😂
I love the way they're amazing guitarists and have like no idea what to say.
It move
Why the hell are people fighting over the time signature of the tune?
You're all right, it's 4/4 and more than that, just enjoy it now.
You realize that the "bleed" pattern itself is in 3/4 right?
so many polyrhythms ... yeah, most of the time there's at least one instrument in 4/4, sure.
@@milkymilsy 3/8 to be exact. The drums are in 4 and the song is written in 8, 16, 32, and 64 measures of 4/4.
@@drumkidstu doesn't matter
It is still 3/4
By the way it makes no difference for a guitar player since you have your own pattern and you actually do not need to count times
@@awrely The band who are experts at their music would say it's in 4/4 so I'll stick with the experts. Plus if you watch them live they all headbang to the 4/4 groove just saying.
@ARebuffi It's called a herta, from a drummer perspective. In 4/4, it's two 16th notes and two 8th notes repeating over and over again, which really makes it 3/4 if it was continuous. But Meshuggah are the masters of polyrhythms. Hertas are really fun in 12/8 as well, because the two 16ths + two 8ths = three 8th notes, so you can fit hertas into a measure. Bleed is just a glorified rhythm exercise like he says.
Mesmerizing
This is awesome!
Meshuggah changed my life.
Go watch Straws Pulled at Random, first the album version, then the live version video on here. I'm sure lots of Meshuggah fans would say it's cliche, but it's one of the most perfectly executed.. it's just an absolute piece of art, put into sound.
Im going right now, since the 1st time i heard them got instantly envolved with Meshuggah and Djent. Strong estatement and thank you for the suggestion :)
+Robyn W there melodie is so beautyfull like you rockbabychick
Hell yeah hah
The most awesome thing about this way of playing other than time and signal changing is the fact that it's rooted on a lot of rhythem technique. I just bought a Schecter Hellraiser Special C-8 that will be at my home on Friday. I can not wait to dive in this way of playing guitar.
It move...
i can't get over the intro riff to Bleed. Watching this video over and over again just makes you think that there not of this earth which in fact they're not. Farout especially hearing this live when i last saw them, as tight as fuck man, freaks of nature. Luv Meshuggah, gotta luv em!!!!
Fredrik's guitar is like an Ibanez Iceman 8string monster. Awesome!
I like how the beginning riff just "bends" in a free-flowing type. Like a river.
right?
lol, I just saw that this comment was made 12 years ago 😂
@@kikiphallin ahaha
ah now i know for a fact that Fredrik is a robot. 0:58
ree eses lmao
lol what was that? i don't know messugah well, did't he try to taalk inglese?
the iceman is just such a perfect guitar shape. I love my IC400
This song is the marathon version of a guitar race. All about endurance
It's move.
gregorio232 hahaha
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Bleed riff should be listed one of the best guitar riffs ever written. It's so simple yet so compelling. Hope its get credited the same way as classic riffs like Pantera - Walk.
It's boring as fuck. It sounds like any beginner guitar player who just discovered metal.
that guitar looks like a mideval executioner's weapon or bludgeoning pummeler if that is a thing
Meshuggah has to have one of the most savage sick guitar t ones ever!!!
1:35 could be Tool's intro to Jambi
@Jérome Bastin And the Mesh listened to Tool as well
I can't even understand how he plays it so easily without any serious movements in this arm. Amazing
It's a basic gallop pattern. I don't understand why people think this is so amazing.
@@officialmetalwill It's amazing because achieving consistency at such speed is a lot of work.
@@officialmetalwill This is not a basic gallop pattern. A basic gallop pattern consists of three notes (16/16/8). There are four notes in this riff (16/16/8/8) and the one "added" at the end of every gallop is played with an upstroke. So yes, playing that for seven minutes (and there are further variations of it as the song progresses) with precision, in time, at that tempo and together with other guitars and drums (which have their own unique pattern with cymbals, that do not "match" the guitar riff for majority of the time) is really, really amazing.
As said previously, 8 strings. Frederik probably got the Iceman around the time they started touring, maybe even before Obzen was recorded.
A Latin jazz musician playing Meshuggah? That would be interesting to hear. Someone who is a Latin jazz musician will probably see this post and upload a video of their attempt at a song like Future Breed Machine or even Closed Eye Visuals.
Their tone is sooooo nice!
His picking technique is amazing! He manages to make this look easy. It is not. :-(
It's pretty simple.
This is very satisfying to watch and listen to and the last part is very relaxing.
One of my favorite bands of the past 20 years.
I love a good droning riff. Alice in chains, meshuggah, deftones etc. They all write some pretty awesome droney riffs. Reminds me of a lawnmower for some reason. Lol
yessss I always thought jerry Cantrell had a very late 80's dissonant shred kind of style and always played in the lower frets for riffs and solos and always thought he was one of the most underrated guitarists of all time and really got the ball moving for g and L guitars and khaler locking bridge systems.
I will never tire of this song
Haha, yeah, people love to think this shit is in some weird time sig, yet it is not. Massive right hand control though.
It's just 4 4 time signature, pretty basic rhythm once you get it down though, just triplets and semiquavers (16ths) strung together in the same pattern for each part, doesn't stray too far from the basic intro riff once you get that down
@@gedgemondod8808 starts in 4/4 ... and as the song goes on it gets massively syncopated, displaced and shifted through time...
The first rhythm change, where the video interrupts is one of my favorite riff changes of all time, no idea why.
These guys make this look waaay too easy
Dorron don dorron don dorron don dorrorrorrururuun gotta love that riff dude.
Guys don't get stressed...sure it's hard, even he messed up a few strokes. We'll all get there. He's awesome.
It's definitely beyond my guitar playing capabilities. And it does look hard. However I look at it and go, I MIGHT be able to play that with enough practice. On the other hand I watch, listen and observe Haakes drumming and just shake my head in bewilderment with the easy acceptance that never could I ever replicate that.
he's playing the majority of it on the open Eb string, then switching to the Bb string to replicate the note with a slightly different tone & to do the bend. they're fussy like that, it's why they get such interesting sounds I think
well you cannae bend an open string, yet
It's also easier to pick for longer periods of time on a thinner string. If you try and learn this song the difference in stamina needed for playing on the open E versus always on the fretted B is very noticeable.
i met marten in San Diego when they played at the house of blues with the Faceless and Cynic. he is such a talkative guy. really nice too.
Meshuggah was absolutely amazing live. i would love to see them again.
goddamnitt its been five years yet still this riff is not playable, by me i mean... so simple yet so deadly fuck... hw do move my right hand that fuckin fast, so fucking fassstttttt
+ane urme try to focus on ur fingers,if u get to use ur fingers right when u're moving ur whole hand u will achive it,its a technical move but sadly i forgot the name since its been 10 years that i have not play instruments.
I just kind of masturbated too much, so it's easy to my right hand and not my left.
The picking part is actually pretty simple when you slow it down. The pattern used for the right hand is a gallop followed by an upstroke, so it would be this for the first verse:
DUD, U, DUD, U, DUD, U, and so on until the next verse.
Verse 2:
DUD, U, D, U, DUD, U, D, U, DUD, U, D, U, and so on.
Hope this helps! 😊🤘
when people start getting exhausted, they have a tendency to tense up and clutch their picks harder to make smaller and more controlled movements and try to conserve as much effort as possible, but it's counterproductive. the muscles in your forearms that start hurting after a while are the same muscles responsible for articulating your fingers, so when you start squeezing the pick, you immediately start wasting effort. it's more or less the same story with forcing our arm to make smaller movements, you unnecessarily waste effort trying to keep your hand/fingers from moving too much.
try to relax. it's easier said than done and it's a hard habit to break, but you'll notice a difference in endurance pretty quickly. it'll still hurt like a bitch for a while, but the more you power through it, the easier it gets the next time you play it. i've been using the song as an exercise for a couple of years now and it still makes a motherfucker sore.
This is excellent advise that's right on the money, economy of motion is what it's all about.
14 years ago this video changed the way I approach alternate picking
The Best guitar duo in the world...8 string Power
The best at putting people to sleep with their childish riffs.
There is no doubt this is one of my favorite songs in a list filled with Alt Rock and Early Metal.
I T M O V E
I just want to all the know 14 years later and with the the help of this video I still can't play this.
Marten can't even play "normally" too weird for him
its called variety... if youve ever played an 8 string, its completely different to a 6 or even a 7... it takes skill, and theseguys not only pull it of brilliantly but write some amazing riffs to..
kick ass video :)
How in the fuck do you pick that fast
its also in like quadruplets to top it all off
all in the wrist my dude.
Alternate Picking, just alternate picking with 16th notes at 230bpm. If you are able to play this ou just need the rhythm than you can play bleed
kaeseistcool You say that as if it's easy lmfao. 16th notes at 230 bpm is 15.3 notes per second
Fluffed Pillows How long you havve been playing guitar? look up the john petrucci spider exercise, you will get faster on the right and left hand. And excersice on a slow level 16th notes with metronome and get slowly faster.
I don't say it is easy but it is not imposible, I can play it at 190bpm and started at 80 bpm(had trouble with the rhythm at the beginning) .
There are other songs like nights blood from dissection with 215pbm with I find for my self harder play
you're absolutely right, but what makes this interesting, is that in most songs eventually they will start playing in the same signature, this is not the case here. Amazing.
actually, easy to do a riff, but doing it for more than 3 times without bleeding out your hand is the magic behind this song...
Simple + patient = thank you!
The hard part isn't necessarily the speed (which is very difficult, dont get me wrong), it's the time signature and keeping it at that time signature, then switching to a different time signature. Meshuggah uses odd timings. And many of their songs have multiple time signatures at one time.
Hello you from 14 years ago. I am here to announce my disagreement with this ancient monologe.
I love the concept here. This is whats called an "Extended Hemiolla" Basically what it means is that the guitars are in 3/4 (a really fast 1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3) and the drums are in 4/4/ and they never correct with each other. Amazing.
So they got 8 strings to play 4 notes on 1 string.
Harris it's to get heavier shizzetzzz man and extended lower range
Harris u know how hard it is to keep up that polyrythmic beat.
Levi Ackerman it's also hard to play guitar using my dick. That doesn't mean I'm a good musician.
Harris i know, they should be using 12 8 isnt dj0nt enough
+Levi Ackerman Fuckin hell, guitarists don't fucking play polyrhythms. Stop regurgitating shit you see in the RUclips comments.
Sounds fucking amazing
picking hand stamina for days. anyone talking shit has no idea lol
im in love with those guitars
"...this is a rhythmic exercise." too sick. math metal has no rival. Meshuggah is like NO OTHER.
dont insult them like tht
Thordendal is crazy. No doubt about it \m/
fuckkk. the song is 4/4 at 115 Bpm. now stop arguing! and 32nd notes.
***** tis true... :(
***** no, its a fact.
Wrong, wrong and then have some more wrong. Just LOOK and LISTEN to it to see how wrong you are.
TUUK2006 Play a metronome with the exact same settings, and you have this song dumb fuck.
TUUK2006 you should learn how to use a metronome. The song is 4/4.
one of the coolest rifts Ive ever heard
I'm assuming you've heard two, maybe three other riffs?
”Its moving all the time” his mic cut of or something...
indeed
did anyone else hear the rest of the song in their head while he was playing for the intro or am i the only one with Bleed by Meshuggah ptsd
Honestly I play more songs like this then I do "normal" guitar songs like he said.
I love the sound of "Bleed" in the morning.
Their playing is some of the most robotic I have ever seen. And I mean that in a good way. Mechanical precision, almost like binary code.
Right! Absolutely no unnecessary movement.
0.5 speed FTW!
AATE Mo- OOFF
That 8 string Iceman is so freakin AWESOME!! There is no amount of money that I wouldnt pay for one.
"Hardest" song in the world.
This is one of the hardest riffs I've played. Because it's really confusing and the required endurance and stamina of this song is out of this world
The drumming is the hardest part
Nah very easy. Hardest because it gets too boring because it's repetitive
@@pmaster1173 you played it at least to day that?
I was trying to use way too many downstrokes. This video helps a lot with right hand technique.
does it djent?
yea lmfao.
- Does periphery Meshuggah? FUCK NO.
Incredible to watch
I know I know, I mean I've played millenium cyanide christ and I mainly used 2 strings through the song. It's cool how you can pull of amazing tight riffs with few tricky patterns. Haven't listened to the new cd much yet though but bleed sounds good.
Have you listened to it yet? Lol
that guitar is a piece of art
Still relevant in 2021!
@Mohamed636 this song is in F, in a eight string guitar this is:
Eight= F2
Seventh= A#2
Sixth = D#3
Fifth = G#3
Forth = C#4
Third = F#4
Second = A#4
First = D#5
I learned it in six string, by pitchin' down the sixth string like the eight and beyond!
this is indeed a rhythmic exercise
@bennyvx08 The guys in Meshuggah use Fractal Audio's Axe-Fx, now, which is digital. I'm not sure if they run through cabs or straight to the PA live. A "normal" amp will work just fine with an 8-string, as long as you know how to EQ and don't use too much gain.
@AdamFreakinWest - well said. Rhythmic precision. I've been playing for years, and this is gonna take me 2 months and a metronome. Sounds amazing on it's own too, IMO!
Hilarious!
I'm so glad you pointed that out; otherwise I would've never noticed.
he makes it look so fuckin' effortless!
From a rhythmic perspective, this is an extremely simple riff, just a 5/4 gallop pattern where there's a 32nd/16th gallop, repeated, but it's so fast it's impossible for me right now, yet they make it look like the simplest thing ever.
A 5/4 gallop patern? Those are hertas and it's in 3/16
0:12 does anyone know if this pattern is down up down down, or down up down up? I can’t tell man 😥
Its down-up-down ... up
i love that tone!