Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris vs Nike Alphafly 3
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- The Asics Metaspeed Sky Paris and Nike Alphafly 3 are two top-tier racing shoes new for 2024. Both are lightweight, aggressive and designed for fast PR attempts. In this video, I compare the two shoes after running a 2:49 marathon PR in the Sky Paris and a recent 22 mile long run in the Alphafly 3, letting you know key differences, who each shoe is best for and alternative options on the market.
4:22 - Alphafly 3 Overview
6:32 - Upper
11:12 - Heel Width & Stability
12:33 - Outsole & Durability
17:12 - The Ride
20:23 - Who They're Best For
23:53 - Alternatives
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Those Metaspeed Paris shoes are very tempting. They seem to be absolute bangers, and at 250 euro the same price as the Endorphin Pro 4. The Alphafly 3 is 310 euro, and the availability of the Metaspeed is so much better...
I wouldn't waste your money on the pro 4... Iv got both and the pro 4 doesn't feel like a super shoe. The paris is the best shoe I've ever run in
I went half a size up on the sky and that worked wonders. Just needed a thicker sock to offset the extra space. No more toe rub.
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Love this! Just what i was looking for. My race shoe for this season is the Wave Rebellion Pro 2 and focusing on half and below. Enjoying it so far but also on the lookout for my marathon shoe and have narrowed it down to these 2. Sky Paris sounded appealing due to its weight and price (much cheaper in Tokyo) but AF3 appears to be more aligned with where I land and comfortable overall.
Still can’t wait to test the AF3. You absolutely nailed the metaspeed. I went on the longer end of sizing and really try to tighten the fit without getting too much bite up top. It’s that or blackened toes with a short fit. Thanks for saving me an extra $250 not getting the Sky to see the difference.
Agreed with this! I went for the edge as I like the similar feel to the saucony EP series and went with 11s vs 10.5s and am super thankful I did 🙌 I also do a tight runner’s knot which really holds it down around the ankle 👍
i have absolutely no problem with getting a good fit in the sky
I own the ASICS Metaspeed Edge Paris and Alphafly 3 and find them true to size.
I've got both of these, used the Asics for shorter runs but need to go longer and used the Alphafly 3 for longer runs and need to try them for shorter runs before I can come to a conclusion. At the moment I love them both!
Your earlier video suggested that you really liked Sky Paris. What other factors played a key role for you to suggest Endorphin Pro 4 now?
Think he said they were too stiff for him
I still like the sky Paris but after running my marathon in it i wouldn't recommend it for the full marathon for most people. It's narrow and unstable, and I felt the most benefit of the lightweight when running faster than my marathon pace. The endorphin pro 4 is more comfortable and more stable, and feels fun and bouncy at slower paces than the pro 4. I also ran a full marathon in the pro 4 and it was an all around more enjoyable experience because of the comfort and more relaxed feel of the shoe
You have to give a chance to Elite; when i try EE first time I don’t like it; but over weekend (London Expo) i try EP4 and EE and EE feel much faster
Buy the way i run PB in London, on Sunday, 3:17:26
Agreed, did a Half M Saturday in the Pro4 and felt like I could have easily kept going. I swapped the laces out with a retired VF2 set, besides that they are good to go out of the box no break in required, cushion, comfort, and stability, perfect for us regular runners. The Edge Paris were way too narrow in the heel and you need to be up on your toes the entire time I am just not fast enough for them.
congrats on the half! and yeah edge/sky are great for short and fast but for me not the best option for longer than a half
I appreciate all your videos! Looking forward to this one!
I'm 90kg, shoe size UK 11.5 very wide. Most fast shoes are not suitable for me. Currently I have some size 12 brooks that are too narrow but just about work for lightweight, and some wide true motion in 11.5 that give a great bounce. Would love a carbon plated shoe but not sure anything would realistically work for me. I tried the Hoka Tecton X 2 off road carbon plate. It was fast, but I rolled my ankle on every small rock and was too narrow even in size 12, and too heavy to wear on the road.
@onlineo2263 I’m also 90kg 11.5kg Uk. I last ran properly a decade ago (16:32 -5km) but I was under 80kg. Your point is key as I note since starting up that being 10kg heavier it’s clear width, stability is key for bigger runners.
My view is a bigger runner can take a heavier shoe if it delivers on stability. I used to run Adidas/Asics but having started in Hokas I’ve moved to Saucony. I’m not convinced they’re the answer to everything but super shoe carbon racer wise the Pro 4 is a great entry point. It’s slightly wider and more supportive in the rear/mid sole. That said, the Alpha Fly is wide too so it’s a good option albeit I don’t have one. I’m interested in the out coming Puma Deviate Nitro Elite 3 depending on its width… maybe the Hoka Cielo or Adidas Pro 4 once it releases?? All seem possibles for bigger, heavier runners.
Perhaps, If I weighed 75kg or less and had a narrow foot AND was running up to half marathon I’d love to wear the Meta Speed Paris but I’m not, so to me it’s a super nimble shoe shoe for light people with reasonably stable mechanics.
At 6ft 165 I went with the TYR Valkyrie Elite Carbon. Wishing I went with the Pro 4 now
I wish you could’ve tried the Edge Paris in an 11! I tried both the Sky and Edge in 11s and 10.5s and the Edge in 11 won out by a huge margin for me! (I returned the other 3 lol) I have wide-ish feet and am accustomed to the Saucony EP series and the Edges give me a similar feel to them with the similar aggressive plate shape.
I’m going for an aggressive HM PR in the Edges this Sunday and am pretty confident in the shoes considering how they’ve performed for me in recent LR workouts. Here’s to hoping they’ll perform the same in race conditions!
(I commented something similar to this as a reply to Midlife (Andrew) but I feel strongly enough about it to repeat it)
Ayy good luck in the half this weekend! I liked the edge and sky just a little aggressive for the full marathon - perfect half PR shoes though 💪🏽
@@supwell thanks man! I’m moving up to the marathon distance later this fall/next spring and I’m planning to stick with the saucony endorphin pro series for it thanks to your advice 👍
I thought the Sky fit wonderful! I am always between two sizes because one foot is bigger than the other and wider, so I went with my typical shoe size and it felt great! No issues between my two stupid feet!
I wonder if you would have thought the Sky was better for the 'thon if it was bigger. Was the size one reason it didn't seem perfect for the race? Remember, no shoe model is short, just that exact size on your particular feet.
No it was about the narrow and unstable platform - not the length. In general shoe felt better at faster speeds. Marathon pace and slower wasn't my favorite
@@supwell OK I was wondering. I know you talked quite a bit about the stability and comfort at marathon pace for hours at a time. Good evaluation. I was just hoping it wasn't partially because you had mentioned you would like to try it half size up. I didn't want the asics to not get a fair shake because of that....but it seems to be ideal for faster and shorter. Thanks for the clarification. Keep up the excellent job!
Just ran the Boston Marathon in the Sky Paris. Super light and great shoe. Not sure what happened but around mile 8 mile my left shoe came loose. around Mile 20 the blister on my big toe popped and it hurt so bad I finished 10 minutes slower than last year in Boston. I should have stopped and fixed it. Great review Yowana.
congrats on boston! and sorry to hear about the shoe snafu 😩
Just thought. With the wear pattern on most of your shoes being in the heal might you consider working on your stride to become more of a forefoot runner. Not a running gate analisyt but seems that landing mostly on your heal slows you down kind like braking. Anyway you are putting in the miles and will meet your marathon goals soon. Just thinking out loud.
i appreciate the thoughts! yeah my form definitely isn't perfect, but from my understanding and personal experience - heel striking is only bad if you're overstriding, causing injury. i haven't had any running injuries related to my form and have continued to get faster and run more miles. so unless i start to get injured a ton and am not able to get faster, i probably won't plan to change my form - also i run for enjoyment and that does not sound like an enjoyable pursuit 😂
@@supwell well explained and explained. I understand and am happy you are and will remain injury free. As you well know maybe half of your followers have probably experienced some type of running injury. I’ve been in that boat from time to time. 🤭😵💫
I love the sky Paris and find the AF3 inferior in every way especially the upper which I find far too abrasive. The weight difference is another area where ASICS come out top. Each to his own I guess 😃!
Other reviewers comparing the uppers prefer the Asics one over the Nike. Definitely comes down to personal preference.
Hey legend, wondering should I stay true to size with the Af3?
My usual.size is 11.5 and my Sky Paris is 11.5 as well fits perfectly.
What size should I go with the Af3 your opinion?
Thx a lot in advance
Thanks for the video. How do you think the Sky Paris stacks up against the Vaporfly 2 (being more aggressive than the alpha fly 3) for a road 5k?
In that case, the Edge Paris would suit you better
@@KnigthMare69 Interesting, what makes you say that?
Can someone explain if I’m wrong, but when people say they’re a ‘heel striker’ doesn’t that just mean their form is bad? You’re not supposed to strike with the heel it’s really bad however you look at it
I don’t think there’s a universal answer. There are plenty of fast athletes that heel strike, including Yowana! I’m slow as a tortoise and have a midfoot strike so go figure. What’s more important is not over-striding which can be interpreted as “bad” form.
After testing all these supershoes, as a bigger guy which shoe would you wear for your next race if you had to choose from the ones you’ve reviewed?
Half marathon and below I would probably go Rocket X2 but I only did one run in it so far so need to test more. And for a full marathon, Saucony endorphin pro 4 or hoka cielo x1
Out of those 2 and the saucony elite and adidas pro 3,which has the best heel striking stability??
haven't tried the endorphin elite but of the other 3, definitely the adidas adios pro 3
@supwell ooo interesting, I have the Boston 12, but they've started to give me lace bite so I've had to change the laces and run with them fairy loose but I'd still like to try the pro 3 even after the Boston 12 issues. Do you plan on trying the elites at some point???
@@kingofdeath5600 yessir will be testing the elites very soon! stay tuned
Another great video today..a lot of you-tube viewers are influenced by the brands and the elites..there isn't a perfect shoe cos each of us has differents need/wants..for me the I have a couple of non-negotiables..it has to be breathable, it has to be comfortable and the forefoot cushioning has hold up past 22 miles..so far I have not found one that can do everything..there are many that can do that at slower paces,but if you put a lot of power into your foot strike it changes everything..since I run more like a sprinter I overwhelm the cushioning of a shoe pretty quickly..just the way that works for me and why I wear the outsole forefoot off my alphafly V-1s at around 100 miles..the rocket x2 has become my race shoe and my 1st pr survived my 1st racing season better than the alphafly V-1, V-2 are still has just a tad of some forefoot cushioning left at 1/2 marathon distance..got the alphafly V3 and the Diadora cara carbon this week so will see if they have the chop to go the distance..keep doing your own thing and ignore the wanna bes that have the need to tell you how to do your own channel ..😊😊😊
People really love Asics for some reason. It's like I trigger an emotional response if I'm slightly critical of them ... the sky is solid shoe but people out here acting like it delivered their firstborn child 😂
I got mine tts and they are way to small.
No free feet 🤑 Charli with the quote of the day 😂
I watch almost all of them, and I think you have it in the bag, but why no 100 mile review of the SC Trainer V2? Also would like to see you get some miles in the Adios Pro 3. Weird that you love the Boston 12 but haven't been a quick adopter of the AP3...
i did the full review of it at 70 miles but should do an update! and yeah i really need to take the pro 3 out again soon
@@supwell Sweet! Thanks! Then maybe a 150-200 mi review. I just took mine to 100. Would be interested if you use them differently as you move into your Speed/Workout build. I been pushing 55-60ish miles/week (6'1" 190 lbs) and I used non-plated shoes getting to that space but since getting there I've been relying on my Boston 12s and SC Trainers as the Brooks Ghost and ASICS Gel Cumulus have been rough on the legs for the 7-13 daily miles.
If Asics makes a cutout in Edge or sky they will become even lighter may be in the 170 gram category. Will that make the shoe better or worse? Just thinking.
worse; such a simple design but effective
Is the saucony endorphin elite on the menu for any upcoming videos? I have a downhill marathon on hard packed gravel and i feel like that shoe might be the one to use for that race
yessir! will be testing soon
Which one much narrower on the forefoot and the midfoot? Thanks!
The sky Paris is narrower overall! Nike has a bit more width
I heard you mention the altra. While I’m curious about your review on it, I really don’t wanna see you review it. Personal experience with 0 drop shoes. Just absolutely shredded my Achilles. I didn’t know it was going to do that. I didn’t know you should do kind of a “transition” to 0 drop. I just took off and yeahhh it didn’t tear anything but I had a bunch of inflammation on my Achilles and it put me down for a month. Bike only.
yeah i have not tried any zero drop shoes yet. really curious to see how they feel. i've heard altra does some trickery with the rocker though on their faster shoes to give them the same effect as a moderate drop while still being allowed to call it zero drop 🤷🏽♂️
10:29 - LOL, be careful there. Last I heard, Nike was suing new balance and sketchers over something to do with similar upper material design
For a sub 4-4:15 marathon, do you think its better with NB SC Elite v4?
I have used the elite v4, and I think it depends on what you normally wear. In my opinion it loaded my calves more than I am used to. I think the Saucony Pro 4 is a better "normal" option that runs more like a normal shoe with the 8mm drop vs 4mm.
I would try both if you have that option.
@@coreyadcock I actually own Endorphin Pro 3 and have tried it on 26km long run...but i felt it was quite a bit firm (6-6:30 pace). Still unsure if it fits my needs because when i tried the SC Elite it felt plushier but also snappier at the same pace. (if that makes any sense)
@@Adriansyah1995 personal preference I assume. I thought the same thing about the v4, very snappy. That's why I used it for a half, it did a good job, just calf problems, but I have had calf issues before.
@@coreyadcock i see…thanks for the answer
Having run in it, yes! The metaspeed is a great shoe but it forces me to focus on my stride and landing non stop, not the most stable or comfortable over that period of time
I submitted my Sky Paris to your shoe sale link. I didn't get any confirmation on what the status is.
i got it! will be sending out emails soon to all who submitted
is it safe to say asics aren't for you 😅
Hahaha no I really liked the novablast 4. Also the sky Paris is solid - just not my favorite for the full marathon
Charlies right😅
Review the endorphin elite next
i got you fam
Diadora Gara vs Endo Pro 4?
I'd go endorphin pro 4. Rides are pretty similar but endorphin pro 4 is $75 cheaper with better durability - I've had some runners tell me the Gara is starting to wear really hard even within 100 miles
I ordered the Paris already being an owner of the AF3, VF3, and Prime X Strung V2. I did the Amazon try before you buy as i couldnt find the locally. Glad I did for the easy return. The Sky Paris just felt way too narrow and unstable, like I'd roll an ankle in a corner. Knowing i had the easy return option, i never even ran it and boxed it up to send back. I put it on side to side with the AF3, one on each foot and just walked around the house. It was a no brainer for me the AF3 just fit me better. I did the same with the VF3 and same results. For my feet and running style, the Sky Paris was a no go.
22:20 ...having an "American Moment", are we?
5% is huge
I'm assuming the "L" word is lockdown. Not sure why you don't like it; it's just descriptive. I don't like the word "supertrainer" because it sounds like marketing hype. I prefer "high-performance trainer." I'd like to see a sub-$200 high-performance trainer with Cielo X1-type geometry. Asics builds less expensive shoes with similar geometry to their race shoes. They have the Magic Speed with a plate and the non-plated Evoride Speed.
I don't mind it but my guy Brian Way challenged me not to use it. So I'm trying for a week lol
Here's the thing about lockdown. As far as I can tell, it was invented by shoe reviewers on YT. I started running in the '70s. Never heard of it prior to watching videos such as this.
Never needed lockdown. Never wished for lockdown. Never wondered about lockdown. Never said the word. Never was aware of it. Seems to be made up to have something to talk about on these channels.
Same with gussetted. Never said it or heard it before. I don't need to know about it.
Other runners in the Sky Paris have done 150km with hardly any wear. Your wear is not normal even for a heel striker.
Go hard or go home baby 😤💪🏽
Shout out for avoiding the 'L' word. And the 'G' word. If you edit out disclosure, gusseted, and l_____n talk from other reviewers, you're not left with much. Those topics inflience me not at all. That is not the info I need.
If reviewer gets the shoe for free, disclosure is required by law
@@RunnerdJK Have you never heard one of those mind-blowingly dull hour-long radio infomercials with people going on about some dietary supplement that saved their lives?
1. They didn't pay for the stuff.
2. They disclose nothing.
Well-known actors plugging cars or clothes also don't 'disclose'.
But you what's not required by law? Me watching some influencer drone on about meaningless (to me) disclosures, gussets and lockdown. None of those 3 topics are interesting to me in the least.
First reviewer that has preferred the 10th place Nikes over the ASICS 🤔
Especially since many elite runners have abandoned the AF3 at the London 🤔
After wearing the ASICS, they are way better than the AF3, and the Vaporfly 3. I own all, and don’t agree with anything you said
i'm a lot slower than the elites, so i don't make my race day shoe choice based on what works for them. but if i were to choose based on that, alphafly 3 wouldn't be a bad choice as it holds the current marathon mens world record! RIP kelvin kiptum
also my general thought is that training has a lot more to do with race performance than the shoes (both for the elites and recreational runners), but here's a video breaking down my philosophy more. might help explain why i prefer the alphafly for the full marathon (more stability) ruclips.net/video/vlUfIOxJcTE/видео.htmlsi=tpBQgMEc2oR8y8h2