7:40 the (lack of) lag is the whole point of mid-drive motors, which usually come with torque sensor instead of PAS. It makes night and day difference in traffic and uphill start.
I have both. By the city I use the citybike because it's cheaper. I don't want to waste my nice tubeless tires and long travel suspension by everyday use.
OMG! Some amateur mistakes in regard to the transportation quest - why not using a backpack as any sane biker would? Guess we all have to learn it the hard way😜. And going down the stairs with the city bike: I now see why you thought 45£ to be a cheap offer😈. Finally, taking the „grassy route“ might not count as a felony there, but better don’t do it in „three strikes and your out“ states🤪 Ultimately, some fine parking skills on the eMTB were shown - I applaud 👏! Now add 4h to the eMTB for another trip to the police to register its theft that probably only didn’t happen because of your geared up camera man kept standing nearby while you went shopping😜 PS: Funny video, I had to laugh hard multiple times 😜👍
Paniers on the back rack makes less back sweat and a lower center of gravity. I have pedaled 200 pounds (weight) of groceries uphill (15% grade) in my paniers. 15 pounds in my backpack when cycling makes my back hurt.
@@apm9507 Sure, panniers are the best option! Despite being overkill for that 0.95kg of groceries in the video, I would also prefer these to a backpack. He could even use a bikepacking dropper post pannier for that minuscule shopping back on his emtb ;)
@@desrosij I have two different bikes. It is anyway more expensive than replacing tires 20% earlier. Your call. I for one try to cycle whenever I have the opportunity, and only care about damage, not wear.
@@markotrieste Good, i have two bikes as well, one for road and snow and my EMTB. If the millage is not too much on the asphalt, i would imagine that it's not a concern. I have good tires, i am more inclined to preserved them as long as possible for the sport of EMTB then for commuting.
I have a hardtail that I equipped with fenders, rack, lights etc that I use as commuter bike, and a full suspension E-MTB. Both are mid-drive. I'd take the full suspension every day if I had nothing to carry. Unfortunately that's rarely the case, and my two vaude 28l are often full to the brim. And please, don't use rucksacks for commuting, as it makes you sweat even in winter.
Why do bike shows always have to focus on speed - not everything is a timed competition. Better would have been comparing the ride, visibility, storing while shopping and transporting of goods all while staying on legal routes. EMBN you could be much better at your editorial level. This vid is expertly produced - it’s just misguided in what it’s offering your viewers - few of which are racing around
Speak for yourself about racing around. If you’re not interested in racing around I suggest you watch a different channel not one that’s based around mountain bikes
5:35 and maintenance after them stairs?money and time.And you should not ride on pavement-UK law. And on serious question,how expensive is maintenance on your MTB e-bike and how often you need to do it,plus isn't simple to do it at home(need experience). Isn't a hate comment but is a fair point of view.
Both bikes are restricted to the same speed limit, so its obvious emtb would be faster, because it can do obstacles much faster and easier. Price is not a point here, because if you have city bike and want to do some fun stuff, you will need to buy secend bike, emtb can do it all, its always better to have one bike, than many, especially if you don't have a big garage.
You totally missed the point of a city e-bike. It’s not about racing it’s about helping you out on hills and getting up to the speed. And I challenge you to ride your emtb on tarmac with an empty battery and those sticky tires.
@@larrylalzbeats9931 But riding in a city is not a bikepacking, there is no way you will run out of power, or meybe you just don't know you must charge the batteries like in a phone.
I genuinely miss Chris. I feel like he was one of the main reasons behind me purchasing an EMTB. Just a legend in my book.
As a local, I see you've found the magic portals to get around the city like McDonald and Dodds do!
What magic portals? 😅
7:40 the (lack of) lag is the whole point of mid-drive motors, which usually come with torque sensor instead of PAS. It makes night and day difference in traffic and uphill start.
I doubt your EMTB will still be there when you are back from the shop.....🙄
Valid point , I can’t take my Emtb for errands anywhere based on the eyeballs it attracts.
The stopy 180° 👌
Chris is the best at jibbing! 🔥
I always take my bike to a carpark. Very relevant.
I have both. By the city I use the citybike because it's cheaper. I don't want to waste my nice tubeless tires and long travel suspension by everyday use.
That's a great point to make, Andrea! Using a city bike will prevent wear to your EMTB!
Great video can't believe lord Steve Jones doesn't park his rolls Royce nearer to the office
Haha! Thanks, Nick! We're glad you enjoyed this one! 👍
if id need both id just get a middrive hardtail emtb. can do it both really well. doesnt feel weird on the street but can also do trails.
OMG! Some amateur mistakes in regard to the transportation quest - why not using a backpack as any sane biker would? Guess we all have to learn it the hard way😜.
And going down the stairs with the city bike: I now see why you thought 45£ to be a cheap offer😈.
Finally, taking the „grassy route“ might not count as a felony there, but better don’t do it in „three strikes and your out“ states🤪
Ultimately, some fine parking skills on the eMTB were shown - I applaud 👏! Now add 4h to the eMTB for another trip to the police to register its theft that probably only didn’t happen because of your geared up camera man kept standing nearby while you went shopping😜
PS: Funny video, I had to laugh hard multiple times 😜👍
Paniers on the back rack makes less back sweat and a lower center of gravity. I have pedaled 200 pounds (weight) of groceries uphill (15% grade) in my paniers. 15 pounds in my backpack when cycling makes my back hurt.
@@apm9507 Sure, panniers are the best option! Despite being overkill for that 0.95kg of groceries in the video, I would also prefer these to a backpack. He could even use a bikepacking dropper post pannier for that minuscule shopping back on his emtb ;)
My consern by commuting with my EMTB is the risk of Waring out faster the compound on my tires of riding on asphalt roads.... what do you think?
Tires are replaceable
@@markotrieste Everything is replaceable, but you won't necessarily do things to force replacing expensive components faster then it should.
@@desrosij I have two different bikes. It is anyway more expensive than replacing tires 20% earlier. Your call. I for one try to cycle whenever I have the opportunity, and only care about damage, not wear.
@@markotrieste Good, i have two bikes as well, one for road and snow and my EMTB. If the millage is not too much on the asphalt, i would imagine that it's not a concern. I have good tires, i am more inclined to preserved them as long as possible for the sport of EMTB then for commuting.
you could also get two sets of wheels and just swap.
I have a hardtail that I equipped with fenders, rack, lights etc that I use as commuter bike, and a full suspension E-MTB. Both are mid-drive. I'd take the full suspension every day if I had nothing to carry. Unfortunately that's rarely the case, and my two vaude 28l are often full to the brim. And please, don't use rucksacks for commuting, as it makes you sweat even in winter.
That’s like chalk and cheese.The rented bike is just for pootling around town nothing more or less.
Your not going to spend £45 and spend your day messing around on a car park are you?
Why do bike shows always have to focus on speed - not everything is a timed competition. Better would have been comparing the ride, visibility, storing while shopping and transporting of goods all while staying on legal routes. EMBN you could be much better at your editorial level. This vid is expertly produced - it’s just misguided in what it’s offering your viewers - few of which are racing around
I agree with you.
Visibility? It’s a bike. You can literally see everything around you
And also life is a race dude
@@metalofthedeath how catchy you are for others
Speak for yourself about racing around. If you’re not interested in racing around I suggest you watch a different channel not one that’s based around mountain bikes
£45 / day to rent a bicyle???? There are rental deals for small cars that are around that price...
5:35 and maintenance after them stairs?money and time.And you should not ride on pavement-UK law.
And on serious question,how expensive is maintenance on your MTB e-bike and how often you need to do it,plus isn't simple to do it at home(need experience).
Isn't a hate comment but is a fair point of view.
I have both types. They have their own strengths and weaknesses for sure
45 pounds? Yikes!
I'm going at £45 ,what world do you guys live in.
Why ?
£45 a day x 365 = £16425 🤑🤑🤑,what an awesome species we are 😂
£45 for a day FFS
Both bikes are restricted to the same speed limit, so its obvious emtb would be faster, because it can do obstacles much faster and easier. Price is not a point here, because if you have city bike and want to do some fun stuff, you will need to buy secend bike, emtb can do it all, its always better to have one bike, than many, especially if you don't have a big garage.
No if your into shopping 🤣
@@MrAndrew2509 Backpack isn't new technologi, i guess.
How can you say that the EMTB shopping was intact??? Where was the drink at the end? And I'd hardy say the fruit was intact. The was just a con job!
Husqvarna Rocks
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Just picked up my Husqvarna MCLE. What a beast. Couldn’t beat the price either oh MG compared to the big tag brands.
You totally missed the point of a city e-bike. It’s not about racing it’s about helping you out on hills and getting up to the speed. And I challenge you to ride your emtb on tarmac with an empty battery and those sticky tires.
Whats the point of riding electric bike with empty battery? Will you ride your car without gas? Think about it...
@@boniedwa And what was exactly the point of the video. Comparing a sedan to a full size pickup truck.
Because at some point you're gonna run out of battery, and have to pedal. That range anxiety hits different on a heavier ebike.
@@larrylalzbeats9931 But riding in a city is not a bikepacking, there is no way you will run out of power, or meybe you just don't know you must charge the batteries like in a phone.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, it's not pronounced Husk A Varna...THERE IS NO "A" between Husq and Varna.
Please pronounce it properly....HUSQVARNA
my vado sl would have smoked that haibike on the streets
Just a fun video, not reality
That bike is ugly