the battle phase dragons are a cool idea and technically going second in yugioh is as strong as going first, but that only holds true if you can choose. making a deck that is good going second is one thing but making a going second deck that doesn't automatically lose going first is another. what a deck like that would need is a way to force the opponent to go into the battle phase to deal with your cards and even then unlike going second would you miss out on the attacking part of that battle phase which this is build around to break boards
The synchro 10 forces the opponent to go to BP. It's not really spelled out, but "must attack if able" means that the opponent must enter battlephase if they control a monster that can attack.
@@hannessteffenhagen61That is only technically how it works. It's not like the moment the opponent summons a monster they must go to BP and attack. In pracyice they can still do whatever they want in Main Phase 1 and wipe your board before going to the BP.
@@lucaslennan3356 I mean, yes obviously I did not say they have an in-archetype way to skip their opponents MP1, that'd be a bit broken don't you think?
@@hannessteffenhagen61 The problem the OP brought up wasn't that they have to go BP before Ending Turn. It was that there's nothing stopping them from clearing your field in M1 and then killing you because all your plays happen in the BP. In this case "a way to force the opponent to go BP" would be disruptions that would force the opponents to go BP to clear them so you could use the main deck monster effects. So while you were technically correct, I completely admit, it missed the whole point, which is more what I tried to point out.
They finally made an archtype that loses to the thousands of armades-like effects that they've printed over the years that have rarely come up. that's hilarious
They can just quick synchro into the level 7 and beat over armades, the level 7 can revive the green one which revives the red one so then you can redeclare attacks with them after so they can use their effects, it makes no difference to the OTK the line just changes
The two big things about this deck are, it can OTK through an established board and activated Pot of Prosperity going SECOND, but the absolute best play it can make going FIRST is setting up the Hieratic Spheres, maybe with some kind of protection like Forbidden Lance, Safe Zone or Eagle Booster to force opponents to try to beat over it, and getting ambushed by a bunch of Fire Dragons in the process, which is going to be messy regardless of how well it goes.
Trident Dragion was my very first ulti I ever pulled. I didn't even know the rarity existed at the time so when I saw it it blew me away lmao, I still think its one of the best looking old ultis with the lightning
I feel like the dragons have some use going first if you can get a level 3 and the level 4 to stay on the field for your opponents turn. Will have to see if they get any future support and what it looks like but theyre neat cards.
The link 2 goddess is probably gonna be considered in lists that already include proper goddess, but would not make people run them in other decks. It could stand to be a little stronger, I wish it didn't activate but was instead a continuous effect
@@lucaslennan3356 it removes 2 monsters, gives you an hard to out monster, and can out 1 towers. It doesn't take much effort to go into than SP too. But it's mainly outclassed by needing to activate meanwhile with a SP the moment you have like a link 1 + anything you are threatening to make her
@@tcoren1 Almost all of the benefit in what you described is from Goddess. What Moon does is be removal that, if the opponent cannot stop it, converts to an extra body if you summon Goddess exactly, which is technically more removal. Conversely you could make S;P and it's removal if the opponent let's it go through and more removal even if it doesn't, and doesn't require the 2nd slot in the Extra Deck. Basically it makes it slightly easier to summon Goddess at the cost of being worse removal/flollow-up and being much weaker to disruption. This is all under the assumption that they put a monster in 1 of the 4 of 6 zones that it can point to and not the far left or EMZ. Just isn't worth it.
@@lucaslennan3356 making goddess with 3 materials IS a benefit, as is removing two monsters (reminder that as long as either the best or second best target can be pointed to it works, hard to put both in good zones). I'm not saying it's amazing or better than SP(goodness gracious), just that it's decent enough that if you run goddess you'll consider also adding her. It requires the same amount of materials as SP (if you don't have link 1s) for a better outcome, with the downside that it is A LOT more telegraphed and interruptible. If that aspect was removed by making it continuous it could be like how garura made people start playing super poly more, but with the actual text it'll just be a consideration in lists that already had goddess
What is your opinion on the mahjong cards as a going first 1 card combo, is there any utility in a free synchro 7 as you can do that before you get locked into anything? Edit: you could also add a seals engine to your deck as well, with a payoff in the sloth lock, AFD could work quite well but also clear wing synchro dragon can stop nibiru and potentially work quite well, if you make the engine bigger you could potentially search follow-up and have an easier OTK line
its extremely funny seeing all the "Its shit" "this is pack filler" comments about Tenpai in the chat considering just how good tenpair turned out to be
The level 10 looks like the in archetype going first boss monster, the field spell makes it unaffected and it's own effect then protects it during the battle phase. So basically if your opponent chooses to go second they can only do most of their meaningful stuff in main phase 2, not sure how much it matters but atleast it's annoying I guess.. The problem is just, what if they make something bigger than it, or what if they just blow up the field spell and then the monster?
Why does your opponent need to play in the main phase 2? Can't they just pop the field spell first and then clear the rest of your field in the main phase 1?
The field spell does not do anything on the opponent's turn. The immunity to activated effects only applies during the owner's main phase 1. You can certainly pass on the level 10 if you want, but the most it will do is make your opponent use removal, beat over or maybe use negation in order to stop it from reviving itself.
The field spell only protects during your(the owner)’s MP1 tho, I initially thought it’s during both and would be broken but sadly no. Regarding if they make something bigger, maybe you can special summon the fadra(protects from battle destruction) from gy from Bident effect and not use it as synchro mat, or maybe special summon fadra from deck with the quickplay spell during battle phase? Going first it definitely has some tools and if there’s ways to interrupt and keep even the 3 star dragons alive through the opponent MP1 then it would be decent strength.
i pulled an ultra rare trident dragion back in the day and have NO CLUE where it could be lol. ideally it gets a reprint in a side set before these cards release
It's definitely funny watching this in the future, where Tenpai is one of the few non snake-eye decks in the OCG meta. TBH his reasons for it being bad are my reasons for not wanting to play Tenpai (even though it's good)
Full armor utopic lancer indirect support a lot of rank 4 deck. The most obvious one suship. Exosister could used it if have extra slot for this. Other rank 4 deck need to check extra deck space but for suship it is not a big deal at all since it have a lot slot. About that dragon why the level 7 synchro lock your only synchro summon dragon monster? Haiz. For the quick spell, if your want a fire dragon tuner outside this artype, we only have 1 which is magna Draco which is level 2 fire tuner.
a deck that puts some minions on the field, has some space in ED, could use some help going second and doesn't lock you out of light fiends? someone call no extrav lab
Not sure how long the set up is for the new dragons prebattle phase, but like... Is this deck going to just be good with the time rules? Cause if you're doin crap, it's in the battle phase.... Oh, was time called? Well, we're in battle phase. Let me finish my setup that is also taking place during my attacks. gg.
Moon of the closed sky isn't a bad card per se, it just needs a proper target to make it worth, that isn't just goddess. While Borrelend is a pretty good target for this card, you have to sacrifice a suprising amount of consistency for this to work. The regular Darkfluid (not neo-tempest) is another target for this card to work, but why play regular dark fluid when Neo Tempest or any other cyberse monsters exist that gives more (think of Accesscode or Firewall dragon) consistency? Still really interesting and I hope it gets more interesting targets. The new dragons are fucking cool, I don't give a shit what people say about them. They are an actual fire dragon architype which I am suprised is extremely rare. Well anyway, they may not be the best but goddamn are they cool.
@@MomDom-o1nIt’s only used as a situational body, just like kaminari attack. It just happens to have to perfect type and attribute for what you need. No one is using it for its own merits.
Time to flex that ulti Trident Dragion
finally i can take him out of binder
@@CSCH69oh yeahh
Yeah I’m so hyped I saved my first Ed ulti from way back in dragunity format 🤣🤣👍🏾💪🏾
Bet you’re really happy to flex it now
@@gizmo6149 nah. Found someone dumb enough to buy it
Little did he know...
😂
26:00 that one didn’t age quite so well *speaks in OCG*
the battle phase dragons are a cool idea and technically going second in yugioh is as strong as going first, but that only holds true if you can choose. making a deck that is good going second is one thing but making a going second deck that doesn't automatically lose going first is another. what a deck like that would need is a way to force the opponent to go into the battle phase to deal with your cards and even then unlike going second would you miss out on the attacking part of that battle phase which this is build around to break boards
The synchro 10 forces the opponent to go to BP. It's not really spelled out, but "must attack if able" means that the opponent must enter battlephase if they control a monster that can attack.
@@hannessteffenhagen61That is only technically how it works. It's not like the moment the opponent summons a monster they must go to BP and attack. In pracyice they can still do whatever they want in Main Phase 1 and wipe your board before going to the BP.
@@lucaslennan3356 I mean, yes obviously I did not say they have an in-archetype way to skip their opponents MP1, that'd be a bit broken don't you think?
@@hannessteffenhagen61 The problem the OP brought up wasn't that they have to go BP before Ending Turn. It was that there's nothing stopping them from clearing your field in M1 and then killing you because all your plays happen in the BP. In this case "a way to force the opponent to go BP" would be disruptions that would force the opponents to go BP to clear them so you could use the main deck monster effects.
So while you were technically correct, I completely admit, it missed the whole point, which is more what I tried to point out.
My man predicted the trap card that did just that to help them go first lol
Trident Dragion is the original Borrelsword Dragon
That was never played
This is just like the people coping that Vennominaga was the original Towers.
Playability and meta relevance matter for this coinage of terms.
@@GuessWhatHappened1 Saw niche play in REDMD and Dragunity decks
@@GuessWhatHappened1 it was played in aggro dragon way back lol
@@retr0pearce765 Borrelsword was in damn near every deck before accesscode and the revision
I don't know if this will matter, Ascended sage will search a rank up Magic spell when you use it to summon a utopia.
Why is nobody mentioning that the new Fire King just says "Add Fraktall"?
Why the hell did they not name that card Fraktaur?
They finally made an archtype that loses to the thousands of armades-like effects that they've printed over the years that have rarely come up. that's hilarious
They can just quick synchro into the level 7 and beat over armades, the level 7 can revive the green one which revives the red one so then you can redeclare attacks with them after so they can use their effects, it makes no difference to the OTK the line just changes
Yang Zing already existed my guy
@@retr0pearce765 yang zing already lost to themselves, they didn't need help
This comment didn't age well
The two big things about this deck are, it can OTK through an established board and activated Pot of Prosperity going SECOND, but the absolute best play it can make going FIRST is setting up the Hieratic Spheres, maybe with some kind of protection like Forbidden Lance, Safe Zone or Eagle Booster to force opponents to try to beat over it, and getting ambushed by a bunch of Fire Dragons in the process, which is going to be messy regardless of how well it goes.
Safe Zone mentioned in 2023
Trident Dragion was my very first ulti I ever pulled. I didn't even know the rarity existed at the time so when I saw it it blew me away lmao, I still think its one of the best looking old ultis with the lightning
If they get a trap it would probably be activatable from the hand in the battle phase
I feel like the dragons have some use going first if you can get a level 3 and the level 4 to stay on the field for your opponents turn. Will have to see if they get any future support and what it looks like but theyre neat cards.
The link 2 goddess is probably gonna be considered in lists that already include proper goddess, but would not make people run them in other decks.
It could stand to be a little stronger, I wish it didn't activate but was instead a continuous effect
issue is extra deck space is so rough atm so many staples you have to fill your extra deck up with so what do you cut for little goddess
The problem is that it's link 2 removal and I see very few reasons to play it over S;P.
@@lucaslennan3356 it removes 2 monsters, gives you an hard to out monster, and can out 1 towers.
It doesn't take much effort to go into than SP too. But it's mainly outclassed by needing to activate meanwhile with a SP the moment you have like a link 1 + anything you are threatening to make her
@@tcoren1 Almost all of the benefit in what you described is from Goddess. What Moon does is be removal that, if the opponent cannot stop it, converts to an extra body if you summon Goddess exactly, which is technically more removal. Conversely you could make S;P and it's removal if the opponent let's it go through and more removal even if it doesn't, and doesn't require the 2nd slot in the Extra Deck.
Basically it makes it slightly easier to summon Goddess at the cost of being worse removal/flollow-up and being much weaker to disruption.
This is all under the assumption that they put a monster in 1 of the 4 of 6 zones that it can point to and not the far left or EMZ.
Just isn't worth it.
@@lucaslennan3356 making goddess with 3 materials IS a benefit, as is removing two monsters (reminder that as long as either the best or second best target can be pointed to it works, hard to put both in good zones).
I'm not saying it's amazing or better than SP(goodness gracious), just that it's decent enough that if you run goddess you'll consider also adding her.
It requires the same amount of materials as SP (if you don't have link 1s) for a better outcome, with the downside that it is A LOT more telegraphed and interruptible.
If that aspect was removed by making it continuous it could be like how garura made people start playing super poly more, but with the actual text it'll just be a consideration in lists that already had goddess
What is your opinion on the mahjong cards as a going first 1 card combo, is there any utility in a free synchro 7 as you can do that before you get locked into anything?
Edit: you could also add a seals engine to your deck as well, with a payoff in the sloth lock, AFD could work quite well but also clear wing synchro dragon can stop nibiru and potentially work quite well, if you make the engine bigger you could potentially search follow-up and have an easier OTK line
the fire king card is a 1,5 full combo and if you play the old garunix you have more monster for link plays on board
its extremely funny seeing all the "Its shit" "this is pack filler" comments about Tenpai in the chat considering just how good tenpair turned out to be
this fricking deck can otk under prosp what are we talking about
The level 10 looks like the in archetype going first boss monster, the field spell makes it unaffected and it's own effect then protects it during the battle phase.
So basically if your opponent chooses to go second they can only do most of their meaningful stuff in main phase 2, not sure how much it matters but atleast it's annoying I guess..
The problem is just, what if they make something bigger than it, or what if they just blow up the field spell and then the monster?
Why does your opponent need to play in the main phase 2? Can't they just pop the field spell first and then clear the rest of your field in the main phase 1?
The field spell does not do anything on the opponent's turn. The immunity to activated effects only applies during the owner's main phase 1.
You can certainly pass on the level 10 if you want, but the most it will do is make your opponent use removal, beat over or maybe use negation in order to stop it from reviving itself.
The field spell only protects during your(the owner)’s MP1 tho, I initially thought it’s during both and would be broken but sadly no. Regarding if they make something bigger, maybe you can special summon the fadra(protects from battle destruction) from gy from Bident effect and not use it as synchro mat, or maybe special summon fadra from deck with the quickplay spell during battle phase? Going first it definitely has some tools and if there’s ways to interrupt and keep even the 3 star dragons alive through the opponent MP1 then it would be decent strength.
@@chewdoom8415 aaahh I misread that, shame, the cards look cool, but no protection when it matters kinda kills it
i've got this recomended now and.. well
Here after months of curses cause of tenpai
i pulled an ultra rare trident dragion back in the day and have NO CLUE where it could be lol. ideally it gets a reprint in a side set before these cards release
It's definitely funny watching this in the future, where Tenpai is one of the few non snake-eye decks in the OCG meta. TBH his reasons for it being bad are my reasons for not wanting to play Tenpai (even though it's good)
Full armor utopic lancer indirect support a lot of rank 4 deck. The most obvious one suship. Exosister could used it if have extra slot for this. Other rank 4 deck need to check extra deck space but for suship it is not a big deal at all since it have a lot slot. About that dragon why the level 7 synchro lock your only synchro summon dragon monster? Haiz. For the quick spell, if your want a fire dragon tuner outside this artype, we only have 1 which is magna Draco which is level 2 fire tuner.
Bro you can do it with all dragon two lvl 3 and one lvl 4 so it 10 there is one tuner
a deck that puts some minions on the field, has some space in ED, could use some help going second and doesn't lock you out of light fiends? someone call no extrav lab
Not sure how long the set up is for the new dragons prebattle phase, but like... Is this deck going to just be good with the time rules? Cause if you're doin crap, it's in the battle phase.... Oh, was time called? Well, we're in battle phase. Let me finish my setup that is also taking place during my attacks. gg.
Maybe the new level ten fire dragon synchro is for the going first strategy.
Moon of the closed sky isn't a bad card per se, it just needs a proper target to make it worth, that isn't just goddess. While Borrelend is a pretty good target for this card, you have to sacrifice a suprising amount of consistency for this to work. The regular Darkfluid (not neo-tempest) is another target for this card to work, but why play regular dark fluid when Neo Tempest or any other cyberse monsters exist that gives more (think of Accesscode or Firewall dragon) consistency? Still really interesting and I hope it gets more interesting targets.
The new dragons are fucking cool, I don't give a shit what people say about them. They are an actual fire dragon architype which I am suprised is extremely rare. Well anyway, they may not be the best but goddamn are they cool.
Fun fact you can use new dragons to cheat Horus lv6 out and summon lv8 at end phase to shut spells out
Flamvell Guard is a level 1 fire dragon and tuner. Add in sinful spoils engine and I think this deck can cook
Need a better level fire dragons
Whats that music on the background?
dragion was the final boss of my dragunity deck back in ygo3. I went 200 unbeaten with that deck.
Can anyone tell me the name of the background music used in this video? I recognize it from a game but I can't remember it
I think its 夢の岸辺に アナザー･ワールド from Chrono Cross
Everyone forgot that you can add Flamvell Guard with the quick spell. Card will be broken!
D-link and dragon rulers can play trident dragons and it will be glorious.
I don't care how "good" the mahjong dragons are, I'm still playing them because big number funny.
When we getting WIND support Konami?? My Speedroids want generic WIND spells pretty please.
yes Yes YES YES YEEES
Where is “I am sorry”????
Actually, i got a question; does Moon of the Closed Sky affect the monster it targets or the player? Could she bypass monsters that are unaffected?
No she can't. But Goddess can and it's unlikely that the opponent has 2 unaffected monsters.
Dragon rulers getting fully unbanned for this deck?
At least it is better than War Rocks.
Tenyis go brrrr
I wonder if the lvl 10 is something that’s meant to be sent to the GY with something like Extra Foolish burial or something.
you can’t revive ED monsters sent by foolish burial
Nah you're meant to destroy both it and the field spell with trident dragon
Tenpai will be the best deck in Yugioh history. I said it here. This comment is proof I saw the writing on the wall before Josh could.
Well it’s up there 😆
In before people side deck Gravity Bind in 2023.
Make Attackphase Great Again !!!
What if War Rock, but synchro?
The new Underworld card sucks.
See your comment after the fiendsmith
@@MomDom-o1nIt’s only used as a situational body, just like kaminari attack. It just happens to have to perfect type and attribute for what you need. No one is using it for its own merits.
@@arrownoir yeah true but konami print this card to this reason