To make up for the utter blunder in this video since *Golbat cannot learn Poison Sting* , other Poison Sting candidates can be brought up. The issue with finding these is that the majority of Pokemon that learn Poison Sting already have Poison Jab in their current movesets, so it feels like those two moves may end up cannibalising each other too much. There are two (fully evolved) pokemon that learn Poison Sting and do not currently have other Poison fast moves: *Gliscor* and *Jellicent* . Poison Sting Jellicent would greatly help its pacing to reach Surfs and Shadow Balls, while Poison Sting Gliscor basically adopts the 'Lickilicky route' where it takes over where its nerfed pre-evolution left off.
I think Arbok would benefit from Poison Sting alot as well. It has decent charged moves but terrible fast moves. Give it poison sting and poison fang, and it already has dark pulse for coverage
I would also wager that mew absolutely deserves to have Psywave. The addition of Psywave alone boosts its win rate considerably, while still not being in broken territory. I know it’s a mythical, so odds are Niantic will keep it dogshit, but Mew is something that is given for free to all players via research, so I don’t see a problem accessibility wise. It really just needs that STAB pressure from Psywave, which shadow claw just lacks sadly. It would an incredible Swiss-army knife with its brilliant coverage options (well, I say brilliant as in quantity-wise, bc many of said moves it possesses aren’t exactly ‘good’ moves).
Unless I'm mistaken, the Zubat line cannot learn Poison Sting. It's odd because I thought they did learn it, but it looks like they never did. However, they do get Astonish which could be interesting if they got it. Crobat has been begging for a buff for sooooo long.
Buff them both while they’re at it. Give them both fire spin, flame charge, and give Hisui arcanine power gem. It would make it good, but by no means busted.
Arcanine will be on its way to being another Claydol soon 😂 but that Pokémon truly needs some respect put on it. I think it just sucks to use most Fire types in UL and that’s why (Swampert)
Bibarel, Rollout - Yes, but not Rollout. We have enough normals with it already. I'd rather it get Quick Attack that got buffed from a while back. Flygon, Mud-Slap - Yes Noctowl, Swift - Yes Musharna, Psywave - Yes Trevenant, Trailblaze - I think it's still too slow. Un-nerfing Seed Bomb and teaching it Rock Slide for those pesky normal/flying types seems more ideal, no? Shiftry, Sucker Punch - Oh God, please, this. We've waited for so long. Muk, Shadow Punch - I'd like for both Muk forms to learn Shadow Punch. Arcanine, Fire Spin - Yes Electivire, Karate Chop - Yes Golbat - Yes
I've always wished on Celesteela being viable, it has a lot of potential moves that could make it very good. Introduce absorb/giga drain vs mudbois, learn buffed metal sound, fly/acrobatics/brutal swing, yet it gets a combo of the worst you can imagine.
One thing abt Golbat that is wrong, *IT CANNOT LEARN POISON STING LEGALLY!* Since it knows Astonish by level up, why not go for that instead, as a substitute.
adding moves to make things meta is nice but how about we also remove a move from their pool so we dont sit here wasting 15 charged TMs trying to get swift on Noctowl or what have you. Everything has at least one or two charge moves that literally never see the light of day as is.
Flygon is fine personally I want Mudslap TORTERRA (and swamp man 👀)
Torterra would be cool
Torterra deserves so bad a good move update
Yess give some love for Torterra 😊
Or Bullet seed. any faster charging fast attack really
To make up for the utter blunder in this video since *Golbat cannot learn Poison Sting* , other Poison Sting candidates can be brought up. The issue with finding these is that the majority of Pokemon that learn Poison Sting already have Poison Jab in their current movesets, so it feels like those two moves may end up cannibalising each other too much.
There are two (fully evolved) pokemon that learn Poison Sting and do not currently have other Poison fast moves: *Gliscor* and *Jellicent* . Poison Sting Jellicent would greatly help its pacing to reach Surfs and Shadow Balls, while Poison Sting Gliscor basically adopts the 'Lickilicky route' where it takes over where its nerfed pre-evolution left off.
I think Arbok would benefit from Poison Sting alot as well. It has decent charged moves but terrible fast moves. Give it poison sting and poison fang, and it already has dark pulse for coverage
Rollout for Kanto Golem is long overdue
I would also wager that mew absolutely deserves to have Psywave. The addition of Psywave alone boosts its win rate considerably, while still not being in broken territory.
I know it’s a mythical, so odds are Niantic will keep it dogshit, but Mew is something that is given for free to all players via research, so I don’t see a problem accessibility wise. It really just needs that STAB pressure from Psywave, which shadow claw just lacks sadly. It would an incredible Swiss-army knife with its brilliant coverage options (well, I say brilliant as in quantity-wise, bc many of said moves it possesses aren’t exactly ‘good’ moves).
Unless I'm mistaken, the Zubat line cannot learn Poison Sting. It's odd because I thought they did learn it, but it looks like they never did.
However, they do get Astonish which could be interesting if they got it. Crobat has been begging for a buff for sooooo long.
Not sure what they would sting with considering that they're bats.
But it gets Astonish
Arcanine sure feels like one that is due for a buff to become meta sometime in near future.
Buff them both while they’re at it. Give them both fire spin, flame charge, and give Hisui arcanine power gem. It would make it good, but by no means busted.
Arcanine will be on its way to being another Claydol soon 😂 but that Pokémon truly needs some respect put on it. I think it just sucks to use most Fire types in UL and that’s why (Swampert)
Crobat deserves poison sting more than golbat. Crobat is a cool pokemon that got nerphed for soooo long
Too bad none of the Crobat line *actually learns Poison Sting* . Sloppy video right here
Why not Astonish instead?
Good job, Jonkos. I need my PVP fix.... but this double garbage cups is rough
Bibarel, Rollout - Yes, but not Rollout. We have enough normals with it already. I'd rather it get Quick Attack that got buffed from a while back.
Flygon, Mud-Slap - Yes
Noctowl, Swift - Yes
Musharna, Psywave - Yes
Trevenant, Trailblaze - I think it's still too slow. Un-nerfing Seed Bomb and teaching it Rock Slide for those pesky normal/flying types seems more ideal, no?
Shiftry, Sucker Punch - Oh God, please, this. We've waited for so long.
Muk, Shadow Punch - I'd like for both Muk forms to learn Shadow Punch.
Arcanine, Fire Spin - Yes
Electivire, Karate Chop - Yes
Golbat - Yes
I've always wished on Celesteela being viable, it has a lot of potential moves that could make it very good. Introduce absorb/giga drain vs mudbois, learn buffed metal sound, fly/acrobatics/brutal swing, yet it gets a combo of the worst you can imagine.
In that Sunshine Cup the other week, Shadow Shiftry was tight. 3-4 Snarls into the possible debuff of Leaf Tornado was so sick.
One thing abt Golbat that is wrong, *IT CANNOT LEARN POISON STING LEGALLY!*
Since it knows Astonish by level up, why not go for that instead, as a substitute.
Niantic intern is probably getting screamed at to jot this all down lmao
my favorite content style of video! great work
Mandibuzz with drill peck is be overpowered
Love these types of videos, well done. I had been thinking about fire spin arcanine for quite some time now, it just makes sense imo
I would like a tyranitar buff. Sucker punch would be awesome on it
Doesn't learn it in the main series, so not happening unless that changes.
Gamefreak never gave it sucker punch cuz that would be broken in msg. It does learn incinerate, shadow claw, snarl and mud slap tho
@@nakamuraharu5367 it's really squishy in great and ultra league, but also a bad typing. So given it a strong fast move would break the game
Would love to use Flygon & I miss having Trev on my team. Electrivre is one of my faves so would love to see that happen!
good video idea nice jonkler
Love love love these videos
Every season I will ask for dragon claw/breaking swipe Turtonator.
adding moves to make things meta is nice but how about we also remove a move from their pool so we dont sit here wasting 15 charged TMs trying to get swift on Noctowl or what have you. Everything has at least one or two charge moves that literally never see the light of day as is.
Scrafty something
oh shit congrats on the 80k homie
I wait a buff on Arcanine since season 2...
LOOOOOVE when you do this
You need an UL equivalent so we can mention Grumpig and Crobat
Heads up: neither Golbat nor Crobat can actually learn Poison Sting.
@@breloommaster12 I know but how about one more damage on air slash with same energy. That's one tiny move and mud slap on grumpig
Thanks for helping us not devolve into just bbml degenerates lol
Mudslap gligar 😏
Second best pogo PvP RUclipsr after LilyKatchum the goat
Simp
@@calvinooi1407 Your ma
Wow
nice idea for a vid! still cant believe these dogshit cups this week
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