The difference is Netflix Marvel can have a scene like that but mainstream Marvel can't because they're trying to be for everybody and Netflix Marvel is more for adults. MCU wouldn't do a scene like that because it wouldn't look gritty, it would be way too polished and choreographed.
I'm so dettached to disney that even though Daredevil and Punisher are some of my favourite characters in fiction I didn't even know punisher is gonna be in born again. I want to remember them as well written protagonists.
Season one is one of the last great seasons of television. Hot take: I actually also love the Ben Affleck movie (both the regular cut and the DC edition). Prime Jennifer Garner too.
This may be my favorite superhero show. I thought the way they depicted him being Catholic was done well. The various looks Daredevil had were great throughout the entirety of the series and the choreography was on point. Although, I would’ve liked to see Bullseye eventually dawn his outfit and get even more screen time. Your channel has become one of my favorites along with Mr. H.
3:48, The big distinction that should be drawn between instances where a hero has a chance to and may even want to kill their villain but sparing them when said villain poses no threat, especially no immediate threat, to anyone, and instances where the hero has no way to incapacitate the immediate threat their villain poses without defensively killing them. Arrow analyzes this at numerous points where Oliver does kill defensively in the heat of battle along with times where he is more of an executioner and assassin. It's made a point that Oliver tries not to be just an executioner, just an assassin, but is routinely compelled to return to what he once was. And though he fails, he still tries to be that ideal hero he wishes he could be despite his persistent shame and continued regressions. Nolan's Batman specifically notes this distinction with Bruce refusing to be an executioner and assassin, preferring instead to have his enemies be judged by their peers, but that not meaning he isn't willing to kill defensively when he has no other option, like with the League Of Shadows members, Ra's (since if he escaped, he'd just continue attacking and economically crippling Gotham), Harvey after he'd been shot and needed to rescue Gordon's son quickly, and finally Talia to reach the bomb she was using to destroy Gotham with. He is specifically separated from the various antagonists he has that want to change Gotham through destruction because despite his brutal and theatrically frightening nature, he feels compassion for people (especially after he living among indigents in Asia during his training arc) and that compassion grounds his aggression into a desire to protect at all costs (3:06, and if Bane had posed an immediate threat where he was unable to contain him, he would have killed him too). Snyder's Superman, on top of being inexperienced as a fighter and superhero, also was put in a situation where he needed to end his fight with Zod before both of them destroyed the whole city and indirectly ended more lives as a side effect of their battle, making it a defensive kill. There is less of an excuse for the warlord Clark rams through walls in the sequel since he's been established as having heat vision without concussive beams that he could have burned the gun with or and enough control over his speed to be able outpace and disarm the warlord before he fired, except Snyder wanted a cool shot and doesn't really value Clark as a merciful individual when having him violently punishing someone for threatening Lois is more "badass". Holland's Spiderman, in keeping with his immature and irresponsible nature, tries to focus all his shame and rage over his part in Aunt May's death (since his recklessness throughout his appearances and mucking around with Strange to have everything he wanted is what put Aunt May in Goblin and the other villain's path in the first place) into hunting Goblin, completely ignore that there was a flawed, but innocent man trapped inside him Peter'd be killing too. It isn't even a choice he made to spare Goblin, it's Maguire's Spiderman bailing him out and taking a knife in the back because he keeps on putting himself in worse situations due to the fact that he is the most irresponsible of the live-action Spidermen. His attempts at atonement by erasing his identity from the world also is framed both as a kind of punishment for his failures, but also a way for himself to avoid being hurt again by letting people in that could die because they *chose* to be associated with him, meaning he's really just hoarding all the problems and solutions to himself instead of respecting the agency of the people in his life who, again, *chose* to be associated with him. And finally, Matt's temptation to murder Fisk is set up less as a means to defend others, but as a means for himself to channel his resentment for all he's lost and his shame over his physical and moral weakness into a living target. It's not clinical decision to remove an ever-present, ever-relentless threat from the board, but born out of Matt's pride and anger, the flaws, or "sins", that have been at odds with his compassion and generous desire to protect others and defend the sanctity of the law by forcing it to still have tangible meaning in the criminals he defeats and exposes. In beating his wrath, beating his need for his brutal nature to have cosmic significance and simply focusing on protecting both people and the law from those that world pervert it, Matt defeats Fisk both physically and ideologically. But there is one more example I want to add, one where a characters flaws and failures are not overcome, with Invincible's impulsive killing of Angstrom Levi in anger of seeing his injured mother and the loss of patience after other various stressors have gradually unraveled Mark Grayson. Unlike Holland's Spiderman, Mark isn't bailed out of this decision and is left debating with himself while utterly distraught if he lost control of the powers he doesn't fully respect or if he had no other way to stop Angstrom but to kill him. Either way, it's a wake up call for Mark to be more responsible and to stop running from his fear of failure and shame over prior mistakes, to take his development more seriously by disciplining himself mentally just as much as he does physically, so that no similar accidents occur and when he does kill someone, if the new skill he seeks to learn to prevent having to isn't enough, it's when absolutely necessary.
I honestly thought the Fisk in Hawkeye was alright lol 😂 he was toned down , Matt beat the tone out of him also bro you didn’t talk about Matt Clapping She-Hulks Cheeks 🎉 that’s a career highlight from a blind man in Hell’s Kitchen & he was a star lawyer in the show as well I honestly loved his episode in that weird show.
I actually quit watching Marvel stuff after I finished Daredevil. It was just peak storytelling and nothing else would come close. I don't think I missed much.
I’m a minute into this video but let me just say, Daredevil is in my top 3 comic book media put to screen. I’m watching it for the 3rd time in 3 months right now.
they wont top the original show, you can already see daredevil born again is not gonna be as good, all the leaked trailers and all the promotional material has no inclusion of the Christian aspect, and sister maggie hasn't returned and isn't a character in the show
Don't know if you've been watching Superman and Lois, but the fight with Lex Luther is the closest to the Daredevil scenario you proposed.. He effed with his family too much, and they went bold on this season.. and it's on the CW no less..but Daredevil is the GOAT 🐐
The final fight between Fisk and that teenager from Hawkeye soured me from watching any more Marvel shows. A guy who brutally beat up DD gets his ass handed to him by a girl. GTFOH
I feel like you missed the point with superman killing zod. It was the fact he did kill him, and how it made him feel that makes him come up with the code of not killing. It was his first fight and the catalyst of what makes him superman.
5:12 We haven't even seen an episode of the new show yet. But they're about to ruin it. 💀💀 Also, the outfit Kingpin wears at 14:46 is from the comics...
I agree with this video. My top mcu things. 1. Daredevil show 2. Rami Spider-Man 3. Cap winter soldier It was great seeing wolverine in Deadpool but its a joke movies, hes too old and tall. Im not saying make him 5'4 but don't make him super model height either. But hey Disney will completey replace him with x23 and you know it. Old logan will die heroically or more and more fade into the background.
Emotionally and narratively this scene is fantastic. Unfortunately it’s the only fight scene in the show that I do not enjoy at all. The choreography was severely lacking The third season fights were generally not as good as the fights in the first two seasons but this fight hurt my soul.
Hey, just doing my monthly check-in to tell you I still hate that one-eyed mask. I still love and watch your videos but I do so while holding back aggressive cringe vomit. Your Punisher comparison video was good too, I love The Punisher character! I love him right up to the very edge of the line before it becomes gay, no more no less. Well, Ok, good talk. See you next month.
You've spoken my mind brother. Daredevil is the greatest marvel television series ever.
Easily in top 3 moments of a live action superhero
The difference is Netflix Marvel can have a scene like that but mainstream Marvel can't because they're trying to be for everybody and Netflix Marvel is more for adults. MCU wouldn't do a scene like that because it wouldn't look gritty, it would be way too polished and choreographed.
I'm so dettached to disney that even though Daredevil and Punisher are some of my favourite characters in fiction I didn't even know punisher is gonna be in born again.
I want to remember them as well written protagonists.
‘It’s morbin time’😂💀😭
Season one is one of the last great seasons of television.
Hot take: I actually also love the Ben Affleck movie (both the regular cut and the DC edition). Prime Jennifer Garner too.
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ye even if jennifer garner doesn't look like elektra, prime jennifer garner is awesome
Super underrated this dudes great
i never knew i needed to see content like this til now. subscribed.
I like your take
New subscriber
Daredevil was next level
Hoping born again lives up to its predecessor 🤞
@@LaughnCry27 thanks man
this shit is raw
When it comes to movies, comics and tv shows you are sick, just like me. Subbed. 👍
Need a penguin video after the last episode dropped
tomorrow!!
This may be my favorite superhero show. I thought the way they depicted him being Catholic was done well. The various looks Daredevil had were great throughout the entirety of the series and the choreography was on point. Although, I would’ve liked to see Bullseye eventually dawn his outfit and get even more screen time. Your channel has become one of my favorites along with Mr. H.
thanks man,appreciate you, more good stuff to come
@@Cinemavigilante looking forward to seeing more theories/breakdowns of the Aliens and Predator franchises.
@@ajc433 do you know bullseyes getting his outfit in the upcoming Born Again series? Man, I’m so hype for that to release
3:48, The big distinction that should be drawn between instances where a hero has a chance to and may even want to kill their villain but sparing them when said villain poses no threat, especially no immediate threat, to anyone, and instances where the hero has no way to incapacitate the immediate threat their villain poses without defensively killing them.
Arrow analyzes this at numerous points where Oliver does kill defensively in the heat of battle along with times where he is more of an executioner and assassin. It's made a point that Oliver tries not to be just an executioner, just an assassin, but is routinely compelled to return to what he once was. And though he fails, he still tries to be that ideal hero he wishes he could be despite his persistent shame and continued regressions.
Nolan's Batman specifically notes this distinction with Bruce refusing to be an executioner and assassin, preferring instead to have his enemies be judged by their peers, but that not meaning he isn't willing to kill defensively when he has no other option, like with the League Of Shadows members, Ra's (since if he escaped, he'd just continue attacking and economically crippling Gotham), Harvey after he'd been shot and needed to rescue Gordon's son quickly, and finally Talia to reach the bomb she was using to destroy Gotham with. He is specifically separated from the various antagonists he has that want to change Gotham through destruction because despite his brutal and theatrically frightening nature, he feels compassion for people (especially after he living among indigents in Asia during his training arc) and that compassion grounds his aggression into a desire to protect at all costs (3:06, and if Bane had posed an immediate threat where he was unable to contain him, he would have killed him too).
Snyder's Superman, on top of being inexperienced as a fighter and superhero, also was put in a situation where he needed to end his fight with Zod before both of them destroyed the whole city and indirectly ended more lives as a side effect of their battle, making it a defensive kill. There is less of an excuse for the warlord Clark rams through walls in the sequel since he's been established as having heat vision without concussive beams that he could have burned the gun with or and enough control over his speed to be able outpace and disarm the warlord before he fired, except Snyder wanted a cool shot and doesn't really value Clark as a merciful individual when having him violently punishing someone for threatening Lois is more "badass".
Holland's Spiderman, in keeping with his immature and irresponsible nature, tries to focus all his shame and rage over his part in Aunt May's death (since his recklessness throughout his appearances and mucking around with Strange to have everything he wanted is what put Aunt May in Goblin and the other villain's path in the first place) into hunting Goblin, completely ignore that there was a flawed, but innocent man trapped inside him Peter'd be killing too. It isn't even a choice he made to spare Goblin, it's Maguire's Spiderman bailing him out and taking a knife in the back because he keeps on putting himself in worse situations due to the fact that he is the most irresponsible of the live-action Spidermen. His attempts at atonement by erasing his identity from the world also is framed both as a kind of punishment for his failures, but also a way for himself to avoid being hurt again by letting people in that could die because they *chose* to be associated with him, meaning he's really just hoarding all the problems and solutions to himself instead of respecting the agency of the people in his life who, again, *chose* to be associated with him.
And finally, Matt's temptation to murder Fisk is set up less as a means to defend others, but as a means for himself to channel his resentment for all he's lost and his shame over his physical and moral weakness into a living target. It's not clinical decision to remove an ever-present, ever-relentless threat from the board, but born out of Matt's pride and anger, the flaws, or "sins", that have been at odds with his compassion and generous desire to protect others and defend the sanctity of the law by forcing it to still have tangible meaning in the criminals he defeats and exposes. In beating his wrath, beating his need for his brutal nature to have cosmic significance and simply focusing on protecting both people and the law from those that world pervert it, Matt defeats Fisk both physically and ideologically.
But there is one more example I want to add, one where a characters flaws and failures are not overcome, with Invincible's impulsive killing of Angstrom
Levi in anger of seeing his injured mother and the loss of patience after other various stressors have gradually unraveled Mark Grayson. Unlike Holland's Spiderman, Mark isn't bailed out of this decision and is left debating with himself while utterly distraught if he lost control of the powers he doesn't fully respect or if he had no other way to stop Angstrom but to kill him. Either way, it's a wake up call for Mark to be more responsible and to stop running from his fear of failure and shame over prior mistakes, to take his development more seriously by disciplining himself mentally just as much as he does physically, so that no similar accidents occur and when he does kill someone, if the new skill he seeks to learn to prevent having to isn't enough, it's when absolutely necessary.
Someone email this RUclips video to Kevin Fiege at marvel studios
I honestly thought the Fisk in Hawkeye was alright lol 😂 he was toned down , Matt beat the tone out of him also bro you didn’t talk about Matt Clapping She-Hulks Cheeks 🎉 that’s a career highlight from a blind man in Hell’s Kitchen & he was a star lawyer in the show as well I honestly loved his episode in that weird show.
I’m here before this man blows up
my man!!
Zaffy. As wise as he is handsome.
I actually quit watching Marvel stuff after I finished Daredevil. It was just peak storytelling and nothing else would come close. I don't think I missed much.
I’m a minute into this video but let me just say, Daredevil is in my top 3 comic book media put to screen. I’m watching it for the 3rd time in 3 months right now.
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they wont top the original show, you can already see daredevil born again is not gonna be as good, all the leaked trailers and all the promotional material has no inclusion of the Christian aspect, and sister maggie hasn't returned and isn't a character in the show
You earned your subscription awesome take can't wait for the next video now hurry up 😂
Don't know if you've been watching Superman and Lois, but the fight with Lex Luther is the closest to the Daredevil scenario you proposed.. He effed with his family too much, and they went bold on this season.. and it's on the CW no less..but Daredevil is the GOAT 🐐
The final fight between Fisk and that teenager from Hawkeye soured me from watching any more Marvel shows. A guy who brutally beat up DD gets his ass handed to him by a girl. GTFOH
Yeah daredevil is the best thing the mcu has ever made, period.
Netflix did Daredevil right. Iron fist flopped Arrow went too long, i never even wasted time on much else from Netflix.
Iron fist s2 was pretty good but it was too late.
@accidentalmadness1708 imo after the first season it was lame
I feel like you missed the point with superman killing zod. It was the fact he did kill him, and how it made him feel that makes him come up with the code of not killing. It was his first fight and the catalyst of what makes him superman.
5:12 We haven't even seen an episode of the new show yet. But they're about to ruin it. 💀💀
Also, the outfit Kingpin wears at 14:46 is from the comics...
I agree with this video. My top mcu things.
1. Daredevil show
2. Rami Spider-Man
3. Cap winter soldier
It was great seeing wolverine in Deadpool but its a joke movies, hes too old and tall. Im not saying make him 5'4 but don't make him super model height either. But hey Disney will completey replace him with x23 and you know it. Old logan will die heroically or more and more fade into the background.
Look what they did to my boy 😭
I don’t pretend that anything marvel does in the past 3 years is any good. It’s complete trash. Daredevil, punisher we’re good. Disney sucks balls.
Karen is beautiful and not annoying at all!
Make a video on bale 3 I would watch it!
Emotionally and narratively this scene is fantastic.
Unfortunately it’s the only fight scene in the show that I do not enjoy at all.
The choreography was severely lacking
The third season fights were generally not as good as the fights in the first two seasons but this fight hurt my soul.
@@wearywanderer7018 agreed
Hey, just doing my monthly check-in to tell you I still hate that one-eyed mask. I still love and watch your videos but I do so while holding back aggressive cringe vomit. Your Punisher comparison video was good too, I love The Punisher character! I love him right up to the very edge of the line before it becomes gay, no more no less. Well, Ok, good talk. See you next month.
(Not) Me: 5:14 Pshh what EVER man I'm outta here. 5:16 .....Okay I'm listening amuse me. (Serious note though man, good video lol)
thanks dude
Disney is the true villain
How exactly are Marvel about to ruin this scene??
Imagine you have a wife* hahahaah
Can you not compain without bringing up masculinity and femininity. Like does it hurt y'all's egos that bad.
woman moment
Daredevil born again will at least be better than daredevil season 2 that’s what I’m going in with lol. Cuz let’s be fair season 2 kind of a mess .
Zaffy is an idiot... everyone knows Moon Knight is actually THE insane superhero...
Alright, I think you're thinking in a literal way
I don’t pretend that anything marvel does in the past 3 years is any good. It’s complete trash. Daredevil, punisher we’re good. Disney sucks balls.