‘Serious failings’ contributed to baby death in Bronzefield prison - inquest
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- A coroner has ruled that multiple systemic failings led to the tragic death of a newborn baby at HMP Bronzefield in Surrey - Europe's largest women's prison.
Rianna Cleary, who was eighteen at the time, called for medical attention at least twice whilst in labour with her daughter, but was ignored.
Coroner Richard Travers concluded that Aisha Cleary 'arrived into the world in the most harrowing of circumstances'. And there are calls for an end to pregnant women being sent to prison.
UK have a long glittering record of serious failings of children who die in care #RIP ❤️🙏
Never to mention who disappeared without a trace
Baby dies in Prison... tragedy. Selfish cow that took abortion pills in third trimester and killed baby is spared prison.
Those who were on duty and ignored her should see prison time themselves.
It’s the UK, won’t happen.
Disgusting nowhere else would this be acceptable. The prison service is responsible for the death of this child and as such should face accountability for it.
Yeh the baby's mother was in prison for robbery. She's also to blame.
@@alimetodista3459No one deserve to die for robbery
And the child should NEVER suffer for it
Makes me wonder, if there is a country, or a place where this is acceptable. What a thought.
@@redheadpatriot I am sure you wouldn't be saying that if your circumstances were less than fortunate upon birth.
🤦♀️🤦♀️ Heavens above this is shocking officers on duty need to be charged for Neglect!
I agree 120% its absolutely disgusting what happened to her. How can this go on?
Corporate manslaughter as far as I'm concerned.
Did she get pregnant in jail? Incomprehensible.
I do not understand why unless a serious danger to herself or others, that her sentence was not defered untill after birth to a date when the child could be looked after outside the prison. This is clearly a case of wantant neglect and those responsible should be charged and convicted, no two ways about it. I do hope that the young lady takes those responsible, both organisation and individuals to court for damages. Any good barister looking to make a name for themselves would do well to offer her fee free representation.
Some women are sent to prison for the safety of the baby. Drug use is a prime example.
@@olgawyn746as if there aren’t drugs in prison
@@olgawyn746 So it’s ok to let their baby die then?
@nigelleyland166 There is no provision in British law to defer a prison sentence.
She is a danger to others, she was in prison for robbery, and she was the one that was pregnant, so it's kind of mostly her fault.
Dreadful, dreadful. Of course, the young mother having refused help so many times before…still NO excuse for abandoning her.
@elizabethhalasz361 yes. A pregnant teenager is so terrifying 😨. I feel you.
Baby dies in Prison... tragedy. Selfish cow that took abortion pills in third trimester and killed baby is spared prison.
There should be special sections of the prison for expectant mothers. Not just treated as simply another inmate.
Well at the very least accomodate for them. Prisoners are treated so poorly just second class citizens to the establishment.
There are special conditions for expectant mothers. Having visited a different private prison for women run by Sodexo, we were extremely impressed by the environment for mothers and babies. In fact, some of the other visitors stated that they would quite like to have had one of the prison rooms when they were a young person.
I was very conscious that Sodexo were looking to make a good impression, but I felt that they were lacking in some respects. I felt that there were too many young and inexperienced staff.
I agree with the commentator that prison is not the best place for pregnant women, but what can you do when sone of them have committed such serious offences.
@@jasbenn7872 What do they do in the countries that do not imprison pregnant women?
@@jujutrini8412 In some parts of the U.S. if the sentence is not too long, they can put off the start of the sentence till after the birth. In the U.K. they will usually try not to sentence a pregnant woman to custody, but there is not the option ti put the sentence off until after the birth.
Just need somebody to pay for them .We need volunteers to pay extra tax to fund it .
Absolutely horrific but unfortunately not the first time I've heard this! Disgusting people need to be held accountable
there is zero accountability for the establishment and its institutions
Swift and decadence. It is a load of emotional fireworks. It is unheard of basically, not an episode of idiots. It could never happen with an 18 years woman in the UK, especially, London.
Baby dies in Prison... tragedy. Selfish cow that took abortion pills in third trimester and killed baby is spared prison.
I find it amazing that the video uses words such as "sad"! I would use words such as "murder"!
The prison system and judicial system is broken. They need to full up rooms to justify the funding so Judges have quota's to fill regardless of true integrity and honesty. These concepts are lost on their corrupt mindsets. Its a business not a system of justice. Who's going to give back the life of the child the lady lost? What a complete disgrace!
When you're in prison with medical needs, it's a nightmare. You can't even get some medication that you are prescribed by the doctor on the outside, and if you want to see the doctor, it's almost impossible to get an appointment prisons run by the private sector are run like a business and prisoners are treated terribly bet this place was run by Serco or some other private firm.
Sodexo, worst of the worst.
It appears that since the young lady is low class prisoner that her situation would have never been taken seriously. Hopefully the young lady will get the justice she needs in her situation.
An eye for an eye is the only fair justice
She was low class ???.Did you know her personally
Its a scum in prison. No need for them to keep breeding
@@fyre2377Funny you say then, when the real scum like the nonce Andrew walk free while people die in prison for petty robbery to make ends meet. Disobeying the law is absolutely justified when the law is unfair and biased.
@@fyre2377 exactly they do it to get off with the disgusting crime they have committed
Thankfully never been arrested or imprisoned, yet the stories keep coming out everyday of mistreatment in these places are astonishing.
Prison has always been where people are mistreated. The Stanford prison experiment has show it will always be an issue.
So, a privately run prison screws up. Who knew?
Absolutel despicable, this breaks my heart that a young woman who had been through so much is now having to endure more. How do they expect traumatised people to trust other people when they are let down again and again 😢😢. Sending love to the young woman and I hope things change once and for all 😢
Yeh the baby's mother was in prison for robbery. She's also to blame.
@@alimetodista3459 she's to blame for the robbery she committed. She's not to blame for the inhumane conditions that made this happen. If you can't tell the difference you might want to refrain from debating these complex issues.
"Been through so much"
I mean, she's a criminal in prison, so she just has herself to blame.
@@patavinity1262 she grew up in care so goodness knows what happened to her for her to be placed in care. There is no proper support either for care leavers.
@@Evie3331 Plenty of people grow up in care who aren't criminals. So what?
The huge prison at HP Bronzefield in Surry is a disgrace. The public demand that heads (plural NOT singular) must roll at the top due to a failure in the system to give proper medical care to an inmate. In addition, the inmate needs to sue the prison system for its lack of care given to a pregnant mother about to give birth when THEY held the keys. It is a total disgrace.
Do you demand heads role if the mother decided to terminate the child and they helped her?
@@ghosttheprogram6973 You have a point, but then the question arises as to which doctor authorised termination and was this legally carried out? Was the mother in a fit state of mind to make such as decision and based on what criteria?
@@LaHayeSaint all that is irrelevant, if you think it's a problem now why won't it be a problem when the mother decides to do it?
You're being selective at what to be outraged about because you think the child is only valuable if the mother wants it, not because it's a completely separate human being
Its just disgracful whats going in prisons nowadays
That’s an intense inquest - Better help could have saved her life. Wow! Shocking
The baby would not have died if she/he was Jewish
The baby would not have died of the mother wasn't a criminal
@@Christinebanks11
The mother is a criminal but the baby has not even been born to commit a crime! You seem to be Jewish because only Moses killed all the unborn babies in their mothers belly. It is in the Number 31 of the Bible
Utterly beggars belief.
Total neglect of both the mother and her baby. The attitudes of the prison staff are behind the baby's death and the mother's suffering. I hope she is compensated.
Cover up on the cards …..😢😢😢😢😢😢sweep this one under the carpet 😮
America turns a blind eye to the poor here as well.
This is about a pregnant incarecerated Briton, not about poverty!
@@colleenpeck6347 Oh. She was rich then? Wealthy enough to have a baby alone on a prison floor. Cardiff has a study that if you're from a poor area you're ten times more likely to be a prisoner. I'm sure, you knew that. You know everything. Thanks for your comment.
@@kenzie-.- If you're poor you're more likely to be a prisoner because of non-nuclear households, absent fathers, lower level education, the crime rate in the area you grow up in etc. Stats are mostly false... Just because you're poor doesn't mean you will become a criminal...
@elizabethhalasz361Think that's fair for a robbery a dead baby? Bigger picture. Why was she doing a robbery? Why would a pregnant woman in poverty think a robbery was going to save her baby? That's what the prison thought and that's why she didn't receive care. That seems to be what you're getting at as well. Would you imprison a pregnant woman and make her deliver a baby alone?
There have been centuries of prison incarnations. There have been centuries of prison reform. What is wrong with this picture?
Pregnant women should not be in prison. End off. Are we seriously discussing deferral and better treatment of pregnant women serving prison sentence. Pregnancy and labour is one of the most difficult thing a woman has to endure, I’ve experienced it with my wife. No pregnant women should be behind bars. That baby did not commit a crime and should not be forced to live behind bars because of her mothers decision. Not acceptable and should not be tolerated. Get all pregnant women out of prison!
Prosecute those
responsible for this inhuman behavior. Accountability
She was thats why she was in Jail the root cause of all this.
Baby dies in Prison... tragedy. Selfish cow that took abortion pills in third trimester and killed baby is spared prison.
what do we expect from Stoneage Britain?
I was a volunteer there at the time and the next day the girls on that wing said to me they heard noises like a puppy dog early that morning implying the mother must have been putting her hand over the babies mouth to muffle the sound.....i reported it to a detective at the time but it went nowhere. I advised him to gather all the girls together who told me about hearing the baby alive and find out the truth of what happened. This went nowhere which I found suspicious. It was obvious to the girls in prison that the baby was indeed alive and later was found dead. MOJ has no teeth over this prison as it is run by a French outsourced company.
Currently there is no safety wire mesh from the ground floor to the first floor and one lady jumped over the small barrier and ended up on a wheelchair for at least six months. someone will kill themselves as it is a very big drop. I have reported it but nothing was ever done...this prison should be closed down as it is unfit for purpose.
'Why on earth was she imprisoned in the first place'? Asks Mrs. Coles. Well, I dont know. What crime did she committ? You tell me. Mrs. Coles for some reason changes the conversation from one about why the birth wasnt detected, to a quesiton that implies she disagrees with imprisonment fundamentally. Miss me with your prison-abolitionist position. Especially if you dont actually know what crime was committed in the first place.
To use her to learn a lesson ,shocking
@elizabethhalasz361 Is that so? Well, in my opinon, that crime is worthy of being imprisoned for.
Another video I watched about this said that rianna was at risk of county lines which is drug dealing. She was not long out of foster care so she's the perfect target for the dealers. So sad 😢
And if course its run by sodexo?
0:48 And they wonder why she didnt get help?
More information about the mothers attitude and reason for imprisonment would give a better understanding of this story, but, yet again this case only focuses on one thing.
Obviously there was mistakes made, but, i dont think it is all down to staff at Bronzefield prison. I think the mother is as much at fault as anyone.
Maybe there should be a non biased party dealing with this.
This is despicable!!!! She was failed by British society. It is a shame. Proper care would have worked out all the dates. Disgusting! The prison officers should be ashamed
Woah hang on ! Why was she failed by British society ? Can she not take responsibility for her criminal actions ? You mean she couldn't act normal in British society and committed crimes ?, and as a result ended up in prison !
@@7th.trumpet I guess I mean the British system that provides these prisons that takes 18 year old care leavers
Yeah I worked for Sodexo during lockdown as a covid-19 tester. No comment
Where do they treat pregnant women in prison like this?
We can't accommodate expectant mothers safely but we allow every service for men pretending to be women to be in female prisons for putting on a wig.
Middle finger to European human right system
Russia doesn't send pregnant women to prison, but the UK do.
The baby payed the price for her mothers crimes which is a pity
She was found NOT GUILTY. She was on remand but was innocent!
Another inhumane human tragedy
This calls for a review of the prison system and urgent engagement of midwifery partnership with the NHS private provider of community care services centres, by all means, a pregnant woman should not be in isolated confinement. Very sad, that the frustration of caring for women inmates as reached a new low. Condolences to the family of the baby.
Why are we not hearing that that midwife has been sacked and struck off, or whatever the equivalent is for midwives, that's what I'd like to know?
All you hear from the various organisations is either one blaming the other or, 'we''ll do better mext time' bullshit responses; they never will and there will be more of these cases. Having contractors in charge of the prison systems is the worst thing this government have ever done; contractors are commercial buisnesses who don't give a damm; they don't have the same outlook because they are commercially orientated; neither are they experienced in dealing with people, like properly trained prison staff might be. Contractor companies employed by this government are some of the worst in Europe; if not the World, why, because they are cheap!!
There should be a purpose built prison with midwives ect on hand at all times for pregnant prisoners and prisoners with babies. Prisoners would probably do better as they can support and help each other.
Also it would help keep the costs in regular prisons down.
Agreed
It sounds like a horror fiction like something out of a horror story of the Soviet Gulag or 200 yrs ago alla “Le Miserables”.It sounds like people on the chain of command not doing their jobs or worse it’s the torture of negligence.Someone needs to be banged up themselves for this horrendous act of negligence.
She was imprisoned because she committed a crime!
Gosh, go to the top of the class!
@mariecrowe-br3et So you would have defended miracle Hindley would you
Not one person is addressing her prosecuted crime. Could she have been in a lesser security atmosphere until after the birth?
@colleenpeck6347 Who pays for this .Why should the tax payers
@@TEMPLAR969this has nothing to do with tax payers, the prison neglected her and didn't call the ambulance on time
prison service emplyees criminally irresponsible.
I assume no blame will ever be put on the teenage criminal mother.
She was neglected which caused the baby's death. Baby was 4 weeks premature.
@@manichairdo9265 And she didn't tell anyone when the baby came, didn't bother to tell staff when they responded. POS was responsible, people don't get passes because of their colour
Absolutely amazing responses here from the comments as always and not once do the majority say the mother is to blame.
She is entirely to blame for the situation she finds herself in and as a result that her baby finds itself n. I'm getting sick to death of all you goodie goodies blaming everyone but the person responsible for the situation.
The minute you give someone leniency for crimes they will abuse it. Rather than say "they should have deferred her sentence till after birth", instead you should be saying "why get pregnant and commit crimes that could land you in jail", because 100% you will be the same people who will then say you can't lock up a woman cos she has to look after the child.
2 options were available here;
1. She has the pregnancy aborted.
2. She carries to term and then social services steps in and takes the baby away.
I would say option 1 is the better option, cos then the state doesn't have to pay to look after yet another persons child who cannot look after themselves, let alone another human.
Bottom-line here is this;
1. Don't break the law, Don't go to Jail.
2. When In Jail and you are Pregnant take extra care of yourself.
3. If you cannot handle or manage being pregnant, then don't be.
Anyone going to prison who is pregnant isn't in anyway fit to be a parent or have a child.
So lets stop the blame of the prison, and start blaming those responsible.. IE: The Mother.
This is utterly disgusting
Hello it beggars belief!! Where is the compassion basic humanity and care for a troubled young woman with challenging behaviour and complex care needs? Absolutely Disgusting the Prison system needs reform NOW!
Very bad. What is happening in the U.K
We are a third world nation ...a government who serve themselves ..and let people rot ...no humanity ...all greed
nhs under staffed and under paid
They get better pay than me .When was the last time your saw a thin nurse ???
@@TEMPLAR969troll
@TEMPLAR969 Did you study at University for 4 years?
@colleenpeck6347 No joined the army for 25 years .Dint fancy sitting round bars doing nothing for four years but drinking .
@TEMPLAR969 As a nurse of 38 years and actually studying and doing clinicals for 4 years, the UK will never pay nurses enough! Austerity will cause a worse healthcare shortage.
guilty of been poor
Try not to comit a crime when youre pregnant I guess.
Sickening really shameful this happened 😡🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
1:50 here they go again
She’s in prison for a reason
One might expect this in a banana republic.
This is tragic and it breaks my heart but what should make the news every hour is that babies are taken from the womb every minute of every day in the name of personal freedom:,Genocide for the sake of selfish desires.
I dont have any sympathy for the mother shes obviously a criminal or any criminal male or female there in jail thats were they should be but the child is innocent and this is unacceptable they should have the right facilities for women who are pregnant in prison so they can give birth and the child taken into care away from the criminal mothers children are inoccent in fact this is murder of an innocent child the mother is a criminal not the unborn child the mother should have the child taken from her cause shes a criminal but the child is innocent and it died and in tgis case its murder by the state under these circumstances
Why did she respond with "i dont know, uust get here"? She should have just told them "i think I'm going into labour". Maybe then they would've taken her request more seriously.
You're very helpful. Thanks for the feedback 👍
Boycott Sodexo
This is rly sad.
Sodexo is a French catering/ management company, who run this Prison for profit. I strongly feel, we the voters, have a duty of care, towards people we place in prisons. Styal Ladies Prison, which is run by the Ministry of Justice, for non profit, have a medical wing, together with a strong proven duty of care policy, for all inmates.
I used my vote, in previous elections, to allow profit, over care, which is mirrored in our NHS care system, I feel, I cannot allow another new live to end so tragically, and I will personally vote for a party who cares, for human compassion, and not for profits.
Sodexo ... how much tax money went to share holders ... privatisation ..is tax theft
Shocking
0:32 Better Help, the online company? I almost thought this for a split second.
Heads must Roll guys this is inadequate.
This is a vision of the bowels of the lion they give rights to all but its prisoners says a lot about human rights in this country
The tax payer has saved a few Bob though
This is so disgusting, what was she even doing in prison when men below the age of 25 are getting away with rape because they were 'too young' to understand their actions. Tell me again that systemic institutional misogyny and racism doesn't exist within the whole judicial system! From the police right through to prison. The rage I feel can't be quantified!
That's neglegent!
I predict another David Guake situation where some lncel MPs propose that fewer women should face jail because [insert ridiculous arguments that justify double standards].
You sound like the incel, how ignorant to your own identity crisis can you be. This guy is nuts.
I’m sorry to say this but this country always lesson is learned when it involves Ethnic minority and when they have said that,that’s is it. Shocking especially when the news also use her conviction as an excuse, we did not need to know about her trouble life here.
Completely disgraceful
the staff are under resourced
Ok , a pregnant woman commits a murder . She doesnt go to prison ?
People are talking about basic needs she deserves ,let them go to prison but do not punish innocent unborn babies because of their parents actions
Turns out she was found not guilty.
trevor
Sad but the root cause of this was the fact she broke the law and was in Jail in the first place been pregnant should not be a = get out of jail free card. This should never of happend and the staff need to be punished for allowing it but at the end of the day she is the root cause of this how ever sad it might be if she did not brake the law she would not of been in Jail.
Absolutely BS. A little baby has died. You are sick in the head!
She was on remand. She was found NOT GUILTY
Commenters, you're being confronted by the consequences of your cruelty. The word "criminal" allows you to dehumanise people to this extent, every single day. Tomorrow you'll be celebrating another atrocity. You're only feigning outrage now because the "criminal" has been humanised.
Russian spy, how are u ? Trevor pratt from lock down,,,FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE
She made a decision to commit a criminal act while pregnant, risking the stability of her child's life. The only victim here is the child involved. If you commit a crime knowing you're pregnant then there's no sympathy for you.
It's the baby who died so are you saying the baby guilty too? Did the baby deserve to be punished with death? It's clear to see from this case that if we have no sympathy for the mother, it puts the baby's life at risk.
@@xwhateverx666it’s called “ CONSEQUENCES” anything can happen, that’s why it’s advised to THINK before we act
I am shocked as a parent to hear this,I bet if you ever worked in prison,we would have a mass graves built next to it,neglect is not part of the sentence she has received,she has been sentenced for her crime and nothing to do with the child.I really can’t believe this,people like you don’t deserve to work anywhere because you are letting your emotions control your judgement,you can not separate work and feelings.
You have to remember, it's not as if she was living with a gang that was abusive and that put her baby in danger. She was in a facility that is run by the government, just like a hospital, you'd assume there would be a level of care, even if it is prison. This is meant to be Britain, not some third world country where prison conditions are inhumane.
She was on remand. She was found not guilty
Pratt
You cant complain about going into labour. I did not call an ambulance when i went in to labour and everyone is in pain when giving birth, so i have to be honest, i was the same age, no phone and gave birth without help, the mum was s3nt to prison to ensure no more harm was done to the baby, though it is very das that a human has died as prison have inmates try so much to get out of thier cells just for attention, i can see why officers dont pay much attention , when so many other inmates fake it to get out.
If you can't do the time, don't comit the crime
@@Valhalla-vk7hf Never heard of an umbilical cord or a rubber-jonny
She was remanded. At trial she was found NOT GUILTY
These youngens are right. Not satire or sarcastic in the slightest. Just puts a glowing smile on your faces.
😢😢😢🤲🤲🤲
Hahahaha
Man, woman do get treated so well over. First world and first class, i just have to marvel how nicely she got treated, she got herself such nice guys she would cook and clean for them free of charge. Such gratitude, grace, and royalty. You have to love it.
No one feels bad for her. Everyone that reads that headliner will forget about it in two days. Every single one of them.
Rhiana from walmart. The people's greatness is showing. You see it frequently this year.
Nothing to see , move along. This is nobody's business.
Whoever liked this comment is heinous.
Teens are so smart these days. She didn't need to depend on anything, so natural.
Freak.
@@bums009 I know. I was just repeating millennial humour. It's sarcastic, but they love their dark humour, about dead people.
When Women or Men go to prison ! It’s the prison staff responsible for every inmate and the deaths in custody 😢 Blood has been on the hands of HMP for a very long time
Lovely really, the baby isn't going to have the chance to grow. So loved by her own mother, that it's not going to see the next month or the next day. I wonder when theyre going out this "exact" reviting story into a comic.
Don't do the crime if you can't stand the time
She was found NOT GUILTY at trial .
So the innocent baby deserves to die? Talk about lynch mob mentality. Anyway, she was found not guilty.
@@seaglass22 200,000 babies are killed in the womb each year. I bet you don't mind that
Don’t commit crimes 💀
She was pregnant because if we change one law for another person.
The sentence in the court did not include inflicting death on a child. Special additional punishments available for pregnant inmates. Sounds like British justice, of which you approve.
When you have children, every wicked thought you had about this young girl and her child will be visited on you and yours.
Karma comes quickly...barbaric comment from a barbarian.
She should have been treated in a mental health hospital, not a privatised money making machine. No one mentioned her crimes but it’s a known fact men get far more lenient sentences than women in the U.K.
I don’t care.
You seem like a mentally healthy person with a huge respect for others' experiences.
Nobody cares whether you care.
One day you could...no you will be in such a desperate situation. Your comment garuantees it.
why are you pretending to be trans youtuber blair white and going around on youtube comments laughing about dead kids?
im gonna tell her about you in a super chat
@@yvonnemccalla7282 a am