Well if we were to make parallels to their steam behavior. They would get fired from McDonalds for undercooking their burgers and lashing out at anyone who told their friends how awful their burger was. If he somehow got a managerial position, he would blame his failing business on the fact critics didn't know what a good burger tasted like.
***** When it comes to stuff that isn't drinks or burgers, burger king is, ironically, better. But I think McDonalds makes better burgers and it has McCafe.
The way developers act with criticism reminds me of a quote from a cartoon The Critic: "You're a critic. Your job is to rate a movie from good to excellent." "What if I don't like it?" "That's what good is for."
***** Also, I apologize for asking, as I'm new here, but do you honestly dislike Jim Sterling? I'm not the biggest fan of his, but I do watch his videos to stay within the loop of certain aspects of the gaming world. It's something I wanna learn if I ever want to step in.
Some people found their games and thought "I'd rather jump in some flames" Digital Homicide didn't take this so well, so they started to yell And unbeknownst to you, they threatened to sue 101 people, many from the forums of a great steeple They created a fuss while trying to hush it up 101 people too many for DH to sue In their lies they sealed their demise A laughing stock, with a crashing business stock And as DH failed they soon began to wail For all their lost trading fees, greenlight steam keys, and their feces (games).
They would have done fine if they ignored Jim Fucking Sterling, (FYI RAZORFIST said something similar to it Long before they did, it's been a thing for a long time), and continued working on their games.Or trolled the fuck out of him by spamming the fuck out of him with review copies for games with no intention of ever releasing and are just god awful intentionally to piss jim off. I would have much preferred they done the 2nd one.
".....or deluded bastards who think they're Gods gift to gaming, but couldn't make a good game if they were given the source code to Metroid Prime." This ridiculous story completely proves that statement all the way through
Colby Idk Yeah, what Goomba Masta said. And he recently gave Phelous a copyright strike for reviewing one of his movies, Julie and Jack. I think the issue might be resolved now, since he released a longer than 15 minute long video, but I'm not 100% certain
The creator of a bad movie called "Cool Cat Saves the Kids" who gave numerous internet reviewers copyright strikes for criticizing his movie. He even threatened to take legal action against one named I Hate Everything.
I hav to admit I'm still shocked over their behaviour. Any decent, self-respecting human would admit when they're discovered doing shady things and admit defeat, but not these two, oh no. Apparently it's not enough to be found being shifty and continuing to break steam's TOS and even referencing it in their document as a legitimate business venture, but that they have the sheer goal to act like they're the innocent part who never harmed anyone and were always in the right. Even when they've lost and been kicked off steam, they're still apparently in the right. They must be BEYOND disillusioned to believe that bullshit.
Robo Rat My brother acts like the Romine brothers. They do nothing wrong. They are faultless. It's the world that screwed them. Their decisions are completely in the right, and the fact that the consequences are negative is just proof of a conspiracy against just them. They're the type of people who get pulled over for doing 50 in a 30mph residential area, with weed in the car, then blame the fact that the speed limit is too low.
The sad truth of the matter is Jim is shady as fuck him self. He expects the AAA reviewer treatment if your game is going through green light, there is a good chance he will do a impression of it, if you don't give him a review copy he will crap all over your game. The key thing to do is pretend he doesn't exist period because his criticism can often be shit, and his fanboys will defend him to the end running your name through the mud along with it. If Digital homicide decided to ignore his shit, then he would have almost zero power over them. If you want a good review from him give him a review copy and the bonus goodies all AAA reviewers blackmail, I mean kindly ask for including ad campaign funds esc... Well I mean that is how destructiod use to function. Promote and give good reviews on any games that paid for the ads. That is the shady crap from most of the "Gaming News Journalism" as a whole though.
I really think these two guy's have some mental disorder. They can't take any critics, they overreact big time on anything directed at them, they truelly believe they are in their rights. In the interview with Jim Sterling they even said that their own games weren't good, but that they are just starting and that it is a learning curve for them and that Jim's first video's weren't good either. Jim replied that he didn't ask money for his video's where Digital Homicide does, so that is the difference. Needless to say they only comeback Digital Derpiside had was that the number of games Jim mentoined wasn't true, they made even more games that year so there for Jim didn't do his research. I mean...we should start a kickstarted for them. A kickstarter to hire a pshyciatrist to have a look at these two. Sadly Digital Nutcasecide isn't the only one pulling shit like this. A lot of Indy developers on Steam who make really crappy "I just completed a tutorial how to make my first game with Unity" games strike at youtubers who give a negative comment about the game with a copyright strike. I don't know what it is with these people, what they hope to gain. Maybe they truelly suffer from some mental disorder or maybe they are really that stupid, but unable to accept negative things about your game, means you have no business in the creative sector. Cause when you make something for the public, wether you ask money for it or not, there will be people who don't like it. Not to mention that shit remains shit, no matter the price tag.
*_"What kind of fucking judge WOULDN'T throw out this lawsuit?"_* A smart one or one that don't want to deal with this shit anymore. Precedent in court is really important and can influence similar lawsuit down the line. By having Digital Homicide actually finish their trial and not throwing it out, the judge could potentially rule that Review (which are protected under fair use) cannot be considered harassment. Such verdict would then be use in court for other reviewers who often get shit for unfavorably reviewing a bad game (Like TotalBiscuit for example) and make the proceeding go faster or easier to dismiss the lawsuit. Completing the trial also give the right to the judge to punish Digital Homicide for frivolously use the legal system as his own attack dog. Not to mention that Sterling can ask for punitive damage to pay for his legal fee. Of course, that the normal to best scenario. Sterling could totally shit the bed and fuck himself over.... which would be equally entertaining. It's like a bunch of aggressive hoboes fighting in a tournament for a giant bottle of hooch. No matter who get on top, we win. All and all, I think it's for the best.
Come on, dude. Any idiot can see that the lawsuit is complete horseshit and all that judge could possibly have accomplished by allowing it to go forward is force the victims to undergo a costly, drawn-out, emotionally draining shitshow of a court case. And what's worse, when it WAS thrown out, it was dismissed without prejudice, leaving the door open for DH to do it all over again. If it was dismissed _with_ prejudice that still sets the same precedent that DH has a history of filing frivolous lawsuits as a harassment tactic.
Amelia Bee *_"Come on [...] court case. (essentially; Why won't somebody think of the children or the Empathy Defence)"_* You clearly don't understand the court system, the concept behind it, how it adapt and change nor what it's actually supposed to be. You're probably basing your knowledge on Law and Order episode or any other courtroom drama which are completely different from the real thing. Me too, at first, I didn't know until a friend who happen to be a lawyer explain a few things to me. I suspect you need the same help. You also don't refute the benefit I pointed out earlier nor explain why should I care about those two jokers (both Sterling and the Digital Homicide goofballs... and jokers because I couldn't give less of a shit about them) which render your first paragraph completely moot. *_"And what's worse, when it WAS thrown out,"_* Wrong Lawsuit. The only one thrown out was Digital Homicide VS Steam users. It's not worst because it's not the same lawsuit. *_"it was dismissed without prejudice, leaving the door open for DH to do it all over again."_* Which is normal. Let me give you a crash course in law 101 (which is something my aforemention friend told me). When you sue or when the cop nailed you for a crime. They build up a case which they then submit to the court which examine it. *It's only a summary and not the full story*. It's in court that both side can actually air their grievances and explain themselves or make their defence known. If a judge think, based on that summary, that the Accused / District Attorney have a good enough reason then he has no choice but to validate this to court. Now, if no side were able to be heard, there's no way the Judge can make a judgement. That is why the Judge cannot dismiss this with prejudice. *_"If it was dismissed with prejudice..."_* The judge wouldn't have done his job as expected by the state (or country) and would be out of a job. This isn't rocket science tho. Why do people think the justice system is their very own Punisher (the marvel character) and should just punish out on a whim? That's more retarded than the whole Digital Homicide saga. The principle of our judicial system is to be fair: Fair to the accused as much as the Accuser. That's why the accused has a right to defend himself just like the accuser has a right to state his case. And the worst part is... if You would get arrested by your "system" or how you think it should work (ie: where the judge can make a verdict without the full story or hear from you), you'll be the first one call bullshit. That's Ironic, isn't it? *_"that still sets the same precedent"_* No. Thrown out court case don't create precedent.
About Dungeon's of Kragmore: It's worth pointing out that DH claims that their reason for ditching it is that the game wasn't making them enough money to break even, trying to shame everyone criticizing their shovelware because "if we followed your advice we would go out of business". I mean... look, make money how you gotta to put food on the table, but don't out and tell people that they're stupid for wanting better products. You have the right to make shovelware, but that right isn't a blanket armor against criticism. Your shit games are still shit, and you gotta deal with that. Hell, I'd almost be willing to buy the "woe is me" act if they weren't so goddamn aggressive towards everyone, and FREELY ADMITTED they wasted thousands of hours (trying to) study law so they could throw lawsuits at everyone.
Thanks for the tip; I had not heard that. And yeah; playing the victim would work a bit better if they didn't spend months being gigantic assholes to everybody in sight.
+BrokenMikrofone I don't think you're quite right about the "they only respond to punishment" line. Last we heard from them, they were busy whinging about how the media was being unfair about them ("in reality we were fighting for lower prices and a more open market") and even pointing fingers at other shit peddlers and going "look, look, they don't even have to go through Greenlight! So why isn't it okay when WE do it?" They will never learn, because in cloud-cuckoo land they are never in the wrong.
Actually, those thousands of hours "studying law" was one of the items James Romine claimed damages for from Jim Sterling...so, maybe that time wasn't entirely wasted?
I could understand DH's anger if their games were any good but no, they're less than worthless. Overly simple, glitchy and broken games made almost entirely from pre-made assets. DH put zero effort in to making any of their shitty games yet they are outraged when people say they are shit. Utter stupidity.
By their sheer output of games put on store, I doubt it would be possible for their games to be good unless they were all the clone of the exact same game.
Using Unity and Unreal is one thing but flatout abusing the fuck outta both of them is inexcusable for DH...there are a few good games using both of those engines yet these guys put both of those down the toliet
Destructoid also reported on this story at the point of how much Digital Homicide was suing Jim Sterling. The Romine brothers threatened Destructoid that if any additional information about the case would be revealed, they would sue Destructoid as well. Yikes...
***** You can find the article with a quick search on Destructoid. Basically, they covered the story as well, but got somewhat threatened by DH, mostly because Jim Sterling is a former DToid reporter.
I listened to the full interview last night. There's one bit where they actually accuse Jim Sterling of trying to form a mob to attack them. The audio clip they use as evidence made JS laugh hysterically because it was *tissue* *thin* .
Very well done video. It's absurd that this whole incident went as far as it did. Digital Homicide did a business practice, asset flipping, that is frowned up and when they receive negative reviews which were deserved because it was clear the little amount of effort they put in a game, they throw a hissy fit and try to justify that somehow it's not fair that they get judged much like other games that do the same thing. They got exactly what they deserved for try to silence people that are just trying to inform the consumer of the game. It really is the same incident that happened to TB with Garry's mod. It's a shame as there are developers out there that actually have an amount of maturity and use said criticism to help make their games better. Attacking reviewers just is begging for problems in return, especially because the companies in question were clearly trying to quiet negative votes by deleting comments left and right that point out the game's flaw. Digital Homicide might as well filed a lawsuit on the grounds that their feelings were hurt because that's what this came down to. Again, when you clearly use assets to make a quick profit, expect to get called out for it. It sucks because there are decent games that use assets which have care and attention put into them that are buried under this kind of garbage :(
"It's difficult to gauge how much crazy a crazy person is." You nailled it. Those devs were making a buisness to sell bad quality games as a living, they got what they deserved in the end.
I actully bought one of their game bundles a long time ago but after a while I just asked steam to remove them from my library, I didn´t care about the refund, they were sooo bad. And now all this lol, they are just very sad people.
KookyGal hahahah you “asked” steam to remove games? Gamer girl / sterling fan couldn’t figure out how to remove game from steam? No way, lol jim and his fans are not gamers, they are SJWs who attached themselves to gaming
Ignore the idiot! I'm sure you did know how to remove the game and didn't want to waste power to do so. These "games" (for lack of a better word, look shit anyway.
This one MMO which wasn't as bad as the others even was relatively well perceived by Jim Sterling. In the video he made about it he acknowledged that one could see that at least some thought and time went into the product and that he wished for DH to continue this approach to making games they obviously took for that game.
I'm glad I saw this. I watch Jim Sterling's videos, and I was wondering what happened between Digital Homicide suing him and them going out of business. Thanks for clearing it all up.
These people are like wanna-be Uwe Bolls, they want to game the system with terrible products, but are too dumb to actually be able to do it effectively
Dude, you really should listen to the "interview." It's actually kind of amazing in all its nonsensical glory. Though, admittedly, you might consider keeping some strong liquor handy while doing so.
Learning more about the digital homicide meltdown saga in modern day just makes this whole story even more crazy to me. That's because it's 2024 and people are still acting just as entitled as them, especially in the entertainment industry. Now people are trying to virtue signal away criticism or use their identity to play the victim card. As if being being born a certain way or liking certain genders means you deserve success. Everyone needs to learn eventually that success is earned not given.
I'm just thinking to myself, "well surely that's it"..... then it keeps going on. Then i'm like "okay. The Romaine's surely have to be done and finished now"..... video keeps going. These brothers are so relentless that it's honestly scary. Their drive and commitment to be the aggressor while also playing the victim card is psychologically confuddling. These people need help. They have serious mental anguish that needs to be resolved.
There are a few major inaccuracies with this video, the first being the designation of Jim Sterling as a games journalist, something he doesn't profess to being while the second is calling what Digital Homicide used to produce 'Games'.
I know this type of person. Rest assured, they will be back. It won't be called Digital Homicide; they'll change their name and try again. Mark my words.
***** The vast bulk of my script is explaining in great detail how the classic mechanics it started with and the modern mechanics it ended up with combine into a total mess.
21:27 I disagree. There comes a point where when a company stops listening to its customers and pulls this kind of shit, them they need to feel the weight of the people who they screw over. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable”
god damn, that game at 1:30 (which its name I don't know, maybe slaughtering grounds) has the most horrendous setup I've seen in ages, gun covers a third the screen, and the target, lower hud covers a further fifth, ffs.
Landon yeah, that game has a metric shit-ton of problems. I covered the game in full in my video "Steam Indie Reviews Vol 1" and the game does not have distinct ammo types; picking up any ammo box just refills the gun you have equipped at that second.
After watching your video the only thing that stuck was a bad pun about how they should have named their company digital suicide, that's about how memorable they, and their games, are.
When ever I 'pass by'' this viedo in the tube suggestion list... XD I cant help to feel that ''2 kruegers , 3 krox clones 5 novas'' ..sounds like a list of extremly bad to eat crap fast food ^^
Ziggletooth Someone is oversimplifying the term shovel-ware. By that logic all software is shovel-ware. We can then go on to say all cell phones are shovel-hardware, and on and on, till we have covered every product made by anybody...lol
Around 21 when you get mad, I feel excitedly want to.. get mad too. GET MADddd and throw lemon bombs, to digital homicide. Thank you for uncovering this massive drama..
Your coverage of this shitfest of a situation is still the one I keep coming back too. Mainly because I feel like you were trying to be reasonable, calm, and fair at first and then just stopped caring and DESTROYED them. It's fun.
If I understand correctly, abusing the judiciary system to bully or harass someone, is grounds for a lawsuit in the United States. Thus someone like Jim Sterling could theoretically have grounds to sue Digital Homicide for such abuse.
I've met the "homicide brothers" they seem nice but when i asked about their games, they refused to talk about them. also i think we need to keep their games for archival purposes (aka this is how you don't make a game).
I almost suspected at one point that Jim's coverage of them actually would have gotten them more sales than it cost them just due to people buying these wretched things out of curiosity. I can understand that to a point as I collect terrible Kung Fu movies just because they are so bad they are entertaining. I am glad I stumbled on your video here, subscribed about 5 minuted in.
I think the same thing; nobody knew who they were until they threw such a bitch-fit against Jim. If anything he helped them out... until they self-destructed. Thanks for the sub!
They probably did sell more due to the coverage, but the craziness they pulled was so much more entertaining than their games though...lol ...and no problem. keep up the good work :)
the interview/conversation/thing between sterling and robert romine is absolutely hilarious since robert repeatedly showed off how he wasn't capable of differentiating criticism of his games with attacks against him personally. I feel bad for his children. That type of insecurity is not healthy in a parent.
Doctor Bane I was more pissed off by the game grinding to a halt for forty minutes with you doing absolutely nothing while you walk through those rooms with women being raped. And I have beaten the game; I'm trying to write a script now.
***** Ugh, good luck. It does sound a lot like they were sexualising what was happening, which is just vile. Oh, and of course Duke makes witty one liners while giving you the option to slap their breasts, because clearly this game was written by edgy kids.
You should absolutely listen to that "interview" that Jim Sterling and Digital Homicide have, it's quite possibly one of the best things that's ever been uploading to RUclips.
hey Darklord, if you are interested in other weird situation/scammers.. you should check out TrueBones on youtube. A guy so delusional, he thinks adobe, unity, epic games, etc are all out to get him, still not understanding its a no-no to steal other people's animations.
Apparently DH indirectly admitted the real goal of the lawsuit against the 100 was to get the subpoena (probably to attack the 100 and scare everyone else into not touching them). Now I think they dismissed the case because they didn't get it.
Then they should kiss their lucky charms the Judge didn't give them the info because that'd be a federal crime (and perhaps even as serious as Terrorism charges).
Even though the information here is more complete and contains some of the best of Digital Homicide's insanity, Jim Sterling just tells it better. I wish he'd do a full recap like this.
16:16 to be fair I only ever pre-order first party nintendo games because they haven't failed to deliver on their products, at least in my point of view.
Is it me or has the Slaughtering Grounds music rubbed off on anyone. I just want to bob my head along with the music every time it comes on. Good times, good times........ I have rarely gotten so much entertainment from a game I would never play. I hope saying that doesn't cause me to get sued for the price of the game plus $100,000,000 in interest.
28:14 "You can't spout shit this crazy for this long and constantly preach that someone is out to get you and everyone who doesn't like you is in on it without having a few genuine bats in the belfry" Good thing they aren't billionaires or they might be the next Republican presidential nominees.
Digital Homicide are geniuses. They exploited and exposed every single weakness of Steam's almost non-existent quality control and made money off of it. I would like to shake their hands and have a beer with them.
A bit of correction - The Dismissal Motion was NOT denied, it has NOT been decided yet as Romine still present a motion for to make a correction and Jim Lawyers present a response against this NEW motion by Romine.
hi jadow I love your reviews I always laugh also can you please review top shot dinosaur hunter for the Wii but it is also called Jurassic the hunted and can you please review bionicle heros thanks
Jim fucking Sterling, son. That's their legacy. The best thing they ever did. By accident. :P
It's Jim Fuckin' Sterling, Son, sir. That's all proper nouns. I'm pretty sure that Uncle Jimbo has had his name legally changed to that.
I'm pretty sure Razorfist said it years before digital homicide.
As he said himself "if someone says Jim Sterling, they think of Jim Sterling. If someone mentions Digital Homicide, they think of Jim Sterling"
he wins either way
The following month: James and Robert Romaine sues McDonalds for defamation because they got fired for refusing to cook burgers.
No way, they'd sue them for emotional distress.
Well if we were to make parallels to their steam behavior. They would get fired from McDonalds for undercooking their burgers and lashing out at anyone who told their friends how awful their burger was.
If he somehow got a managerial position, he would blame his failing business on the fact critics didn't know what a good burger tasted like.
So how deformed are these burgers?
FKTHD He just brought in the jimmy dean's sausage patties he bought at Wal-mart
***** When it comes to stuff that isn't drinks or burgers, burger king is, ironically, better. But I think McDonalds makes better burgers and it has McCafe.
The way developers act with criticism reminds me of a quote from a cartoon The Critic:
"You're a critic. Your job is to rate a movie from good to excellent."
"What if I don't like it?"
"That's what good is for."
Clearly the creed DH lived by.
+Darklordjadow1 Honestly and truly. If anything comes from this, I hope it's a cautionary tale to everyone that not everyone is suited to make a game.
***** Also, I apologize for asking, as I'm new here, but do you honestly dislike Jim Sterling? I'm not the biggest fan of his, but I do watch his videos to stay within the loop of certain aspects of the gaming world. It's something I wanna learn if I ever want to step in.
Jack Of All Trades
I really like Jim Sterling; he just has some moments of real jackassery that get on my nerves from time to time.
Jack Of All Trades you are Jack or no nothing
7 years later and this is still the best sum up of the digital homicide drama on the internet
Man, Digital Homicide is like a cautionary folk tale on what NOT to do during game development
While no one was looking, Digital Homicide released forty games. They
released forty games. That's as much as four tens. And that's terrible.
Some people found their games and thought "I'd rather jump in some flames"
Digital Homicide didn't take this so well, so they started to yell
And unbeknownst to you, they threatened to sue
101 people, many from the forums of a great steeple
They created a fuss while trying to hush it up
101 people too many for DH to sue
In their lies they sealed their demise
A laughing stock, with a crashing business stock
And as DH failed they soon began to wail
For all their lost trading fees, greenlight steam keys, and their feces (games).
Nice poem dude, mind if i recite it to spread the tale?
Sure I don't mind.
They would have done fine if they ignored Jim Fucking Sterling, (FYI RAZORFIST said something similar to it Long before they did, it's been a thing for a long time), and continued working on their games.Or trolled the fuck out of him by spamming the fuck out of him with review copies for games with no intention of ever releasing and are just god awful intentionally to piss jim off. I would have much preferred they done the 2nd one.
A critic that influences the sales of a product is doing his job.
Yeah like, you want to make money off games??? MAKE GOOD ONES!!!!!
".....or deluded bastards who think they're Gods gift to gaming, but couldn't make a good game if they were given the source code to Metroid Prime."
This ridiculous story completely proves that statement all the way through
Incorrect, there's a second good thing that came from this.
"I'm Jim fucking Sterling, son!"
A tag Sterling wears with pride.
Wow. Digital Homicide seems more pathetic than Derek Savage and James Nyugen combined.
The Shady Reviewer Who's James Nyugen?
Director/producer of Birdemic and Birdemic 2
Colby Idk Yeah, what Goomba Masta said. And he recently gave Phelous a copyright strike for reviewing one of his movies, Julie and Jack. I think the issue might be resolved now, since he released a longer than 15 minute long video, but I'm not 100% certain
I had no idea the Birdemic guy actually got worse, but who's Derek Savage?
The creator of a bad movie called "Cool Cat Saves the Kids" who gave numerous internet reviewers copyright strikes for criticizing his movie. He even threatened to take legal action against one named I Hate Everything.
I hav to admit I'm still shocked over their behaviour. Any decent, self-respecting human would admit when they're discovered doing shady things and admit defeat, but not these two, oh no. Apparently it's not enough to be found being shifty and continuing to break steam's TOS and even referencing it in their document as a legitimate business venture, but that they have the sheer goal to act like they're the innocent part who never harmed anyone and were always in the right. Even when they've lost and been kicked off steam, they're still apparently in the right. They must be BEYOND disillusioned to believe that bullshit.
Aron Marczylo We are on the same side, my friend.
Robo Rat My brother acts like the Romine brothers. They do nothing wrong. They are faultless. It's the world that screwed them. Their decisions are completely in the right, and the fact that the consequences are negative is just proof of a conspiracy against just them. They're the type of people who get pulled over for doing 50 in a 30mph residential area, with weed in the car, then blame the fact that the speed limit is too low.
These guys are small fry. If you're gonna mess up by insisting you're the smartest guys in the room go big or go home. Like Prenda law for instance.
The sad truth of the matter is Jim is shady as fuck him self. He expects the AAA reviewer treatment if your game is going through green light, there is a good chance he will do a impression of it, if you don't give him a review copy he will crap all over your game. The key thing to do is pretend he doesn't exist period because his criticism can often be shit, and his fanboys will defend him to the end running your name through the mud along with it. If Digital homicide decided to ignore his shit, then he would have almost zero power over them. If you want a good review from him give him a review copy and the bonus goodies all AAA reviewers blackmail, I mean kindly ask for including ad campaign funds esc... Well I mean that is how destructiod use to function. Promote and give good reviews on any games that paid for the ads. That is the shady crap from most of the "Gaming News Journalism" as a whole though.
I think you are as delusional as DigiHom with that line of thought.
I'm losing track of how many times I've rewatched this one. Pure gold.
10:00 the use of the Tidus laugh had me LOL. Well played sir
It's cringy, but sooooooooo fitting LMAO!!!
HA HA HA HA HA!
Tidus laughs like a crow lol.
This is the ONLY Tidus laugh I have ever seen that is used in an appropriate context!
Not even DarkSydePhil has gone as far as DigiHom.
I fear the day when he finally does so for one final desperate attempt at a cash grab...
Or he could start a buisness at Pornhub, if you know what event I refer to. xD
When he called someone a fluffer?
Gumba Masta
I think he's talking about the now infamous "jerk off" incident.
I never heard of that... I guess I got lucky.
... that pretty much leaves nothing unknown left
I really think these two guy's have some mental disorder. They can't take any critics, they overreact big time on anything directed at them, they truelly believe they are in their rights. In the interview with Jim Sterling they even said that their own games weren't good, but that they are just starting and that it is a learning curve for them and that Jim's first video's weren't good either. Jim replied that he didn't ask money for his video's where Digital Homicide does, so that is the difference. Needless to say they only comeback Digital Derpiside had was that the number of games Jim mentoined wasn't true, they made even more games that year so there for Jim didn't do his research.
I mean...we should start a kickstarted for them. A kickstarter to hire a pshyciatrist to have a look at these two.
Sadly Digital Nutcasecide isn't the only one pulling shit like this. A lot of Indy developers on Steam who make really crappy "I just completed a tutorial how to make my first game with Unity" games strike at youtubers who give a negative comment about the game with a copyright strike. I don't know what it is with these people, what they hope to gain. Maybe they truelly suffer from some mental disorder or maybe they are really that stupid, but unable to accept negative things about your game, means you have no business in the creative sector. Cause when you make something for the public, wether you ask money for it or not, there will be people who don't like it. Not to mention that shit remains shit, no matter the price tag.
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So true.
ASD maybe? :l
What kind of fucking judge WOULDN'T throw out this lawsuit? Christ, strip that guy off the bench...
*_"What kind of fucking judge WOULDN'T throw out this lawsuit?"_*
A smart one or one that don't want to deal with this shit anymore.
Precedent in court is really important and can influence similar lawsuit down the line. By having Digital Homicide actually finish their trial and not throwing it out, the judge could potentially rule that Review (which are protected under fair use) cannot be considered harassment. Such verdict would then be use in court for other reviewers who often get shit for unfavorably reviewing a bad game (Like TotalBiscuit for example) and make the proceeding go faster or easier to dismiss the lawsuit. Completing the trial also give the right to the judge to punish Digital Homicide for frivolously use the legal system as his own attack dog. Not to mention that Sterling can ask for punitive damage to pay for his legal fee. Of course, that the normal to best scenario. Sterling could totally shit the bed and fuck himself over.... which would be equally entertaining. It's like a bunch of aggressive hoboes fighting in a tournament for a giant bottle of hooch. No matter who get on top, we win.
All and all, I think it's for the best.
Come on, dude. Any idiot can see that the lawsuit is complete horseshit and all that judge could possibly have accomplished by allowing it to go forward is force the victims to undergo a costly, drawn-out, emotionally draining shitshow of a court case.
And what's worse, when it WAS thrown out, it was dismissed without prejudice, leaving the door open for DH to do it all over again. If it was dismissed _with_ prejudice that still sets the same precedent that DH has a history of filing frivolous lawsuits as a harassment tactic.
Amelia Bee
*_"Come on [...] court case. (essentially; Why won't somebody think of the children or the Empathy Defence)"_*
You clearly don't understand the court system, the concept behind it, how it adapt and change nor what it's actually supposed to be. You're probably basing your knowledge on Law and Order episode or any other courtroom drama which are completely different from the real thing. Me too, at first, I didn't know until a friend who happen to be a lawyer explain a few things to me. I suspect you need the same help.
You also don't refute the benefit I pointed out earlier nor explain why should I care about those two jokers (both Sterling and the Digital Homicide goofballs... and jokers because I couldn't give less of a shit about them) which render your first paragraph completely moot.
*_"And what's worse, when it WAS thrown out,"_*
Wrong Lawsuit. The only one thrown out was Digital Homicide VS Steam users. It's not worst because it's not the same lawsuit.
*_"it was dismissed without prejudice, leaving the door open for DH to do it all over again."_*
Which is normal.
Let me give you a crash course in law 101 (which is something my aforemention friend told me). When you sue or when the cop nailed you for a crime. They build up a case which they then submit to the court which examine it. *It's only a summary and not the full story*. It's in court that both side can actually air their grievances and explain themselves or make their defence known. If a judge think, based on that summary, that the Accused / District Attorney have a good enough reason then he has no choice but to validate this to court.
Now, if no side were able to be heard, there's no way the Judge can make a judgement. That is why the Judge cannot dismiss this with prejudice.
*_"If it was dismissed with prejudice..."_*
The judge wouldn't have done his job as expected by the state (or country) and would be out of a job.
This isn't rocket science tho. Why do people think the justice system is their very own Punisher (the marvel character) and should just punish out on a whim? That's more retarded than the whole Digital Homicide saga. The principle of our judicial system is to be fair: Fair to the accused as much as the Accuser. That's why the accused has a right to defend himself just like the accuser has a right to state his case.
And the worst part is... if You would get arrested by your "system" or how you think it should work (ie: where the judge can make a verdict without the full story or hear from you), you'll be the first one call bullshit. That's Ironic, isn't it?
*_"that still sets the same precedent"_*
No. Thrown out court case don't create precedent.
About Dungeon's of Kragmore: It's worth pointing out that DH claims that their reason for ditching it is that the game wasn't making them enough money to break even, trying to shame everyone criticizing their shovelware because "if we followed your advice we would go out of business".
I mean... look, make money how you gotta to put food on the table, but don't out and tell people that they're stupid for wanting better products. You have the right to make shovelware, but that right isn't a blanket armor against criticism. Your shit games are still shit, and you gotta deal with that.
Hell, I'd almost be willing to buy the "woe is me" act if they weren't so goddamn aggressive towards everyone, and FREELY ADMITTED they wasted thousands of hours (trying to) study law so they could throw lawsuits at everyone.
Thanks for the tip; I had not heard that.
And yeah; playing the victim would work a bit better if they didn't spend months being gigantic assholes to everybody in sight.
+BrokenMikrofone I don't think you're quite right about the "they only respond to punishment" line. Last we heard from them, they were busy whinging about how the media was being unfair about them ("in reality we were fighting for lower prices and a more open market") and even pointing fingers at other shit peddlers and going "look, look, they don't even have to go through Greenlight! So why isn't it okay when WE do it?"
They will never learn, because in cloud-cuckoo land they are never in the wrong.
Actually, those thousands of hours "studying law" was one of the items James Romine claimed damages for from Jim Sterling...so, maybe that time wasn't entirely wasted?
in 2017, Digital Homicide will sue the whole earth. in 2018, the entire solar system!
CrazytankXD 2020 the whole universe
2055: The Multiverses.
2100: DigHom sues Anromeda galaxy
They can't even afford to sue their own mother these days.
2150: The entire infiniteness of time and space itself! (I wish my comments had an echo filter)
Watch them try to come back with a different name in a few years
few years? try in a few months. they're probably already back in the bowels of the Greenlight system
The A-Trane
If they are still around under a different name, hopefully word gets to Valve and they get shut down again.
They will already be doing that, hell, theres already several different names.
Just like scabbies
OH il bring the popcorn and sodas. This is gonna be good
I could understand DH's anger if their games were any good but no, they're less than worthless. Overly simple, glitchy and broken games made almost entirely from pre-made assets. DH put zero effort in to making any of their shitty games yet they are outraged when people say they are shit.
Utter stupidity.
Serpico's Beard if their games were good, there would be no bad reviews to get angry about
By their sheer output of games put on store, I doubt it would be possible for their games to be good unless they were all the clone of the exact same game.
Using Unity and Unreal is one thing but flatout abusing the fuck outta both of them is inexcusable for DH...there are a few good games using both of those engines yet these guys put both of those down the toliet
Destructoid also reported on this story at the point of how much Digital Homicide was suing Jim Sterling. The Romine brothers threatened Destructoid that if any additional information about the case would be revealed, they would sue Destructoid as well.
Yikes...
Wow; now that is interesting. I had not heard that.
***** You can find the article with a quick search on Destructoid. Basically, they covered the story as well, but got somewhat threatened by DH, mostly because Jim Sterling is a former DToid reporter.
MrJechgo
It's just impressive that they got stupid enough to sue a massive corporation long before Valve.
Love it how sucky game devs act like your typical SJW
"60 frames of copyright a second" MY COPPER-PLATED ASS. The Slaughtering Grounds barely cracks 30fps for most RUclipsrs that I've seen play it.
Adios Digital Homicide, you will not be missed.
I listened to the full interview last night.
There's one bit where they actually accuse Jim Sterling of trying to form a mob to attack them.
The audio clip they use as evidence made JS laugh hysterically because it was *tissue* *thin* .
Very well done video. It's absurd that this whole incident went as far as it did. Digital Homicide did a business practice, asset flipping, that is frowned up and when they receive negative reviews which were deserved because it was clear the little amount of effort they put in a game, they throw a hissy fit and try to justify that somehow it's not fair that they get judged much like other games that do the same thing. They got exactly what they deserved for try to silence people that are just trying to inform the consumer of the game. It really is the same incident that happened to TB with Garry's mod. It's a shame as there are developers out there that actually have an amount of maturity and use said criticism to help make their games better. Attacking reviewers just is begging for problems in return, especially because the companies in question were clearly trying to quiet negative votes by deleting comments left and right that point out the game's flaw. Digital Homicide might as well filed a lawsuit on the grounds that their feelings were hurt because that's what this came down to. Again, when you clearly use assets to make a quick profit, expect to get called out for it. It sucks because there are decent games that use assets which have care and attention put into them that are buried under this kind of garbage :(
How you make the Steam Community sound, makes it sound like you're in a Steam Civil War.
Eh; sort of like an extremely small scale one where neither side is actively fighting the other.
The Steam Community is cancer.
Community is cancer. People getting together only results in vulgar idiocy. We should all live in bubbles.
"It's difficult to gauge how much crazy a crazy person is." You nailled it. Those devs were making a buisness to sell bad quality games as a living, they got what they deserved in the end.
I actully bought one of their game bundles a long time ago but after a while I just asked steam to remove them from my library, I didn´t care about the refund, they were sooo bad.
And now all this lol, they are just very sad people.
KookyGal hahahah you “asked” steam to remove games? Gamer girl / sterling fan couldn’t figure out how to remove game from steam? No way, lol jim and his fans are not gamers, they are SJWs who attached themselves to gaming
Ignore the idiot! I'm sure you did know how to remove the game and didn't want to waste power to do so. These "games" (for lack of a better word, look shit anyway.
This one MMO which wasn't as bad as the others even was relatively well perceived by Jim Sterling. In the video he made about it he acknowledged that one could see that at least some thought and time went into the product and that he wished for DH to continue this approach to making games they obviously took for that game.
SanitysEdge he also wanted them to work on it more. but no, abandonware abound
that MMO did look somewhat fun to play, if they just focused on improving that game they would've made bank
Keep up the good work
Thanks!
Reminder for greenlight: Ironically shitty games are still shitty games.
digital homicide goodbye and you will be forgotten
MrBrandonStar never
Alexey Stolovoy they will
Who?
The MaskedGeek digital homicide
I know. It was a tongue-in-cheek joke against Digital Homicide that we'd soon forget them.
I'm glad I saw this. I watch Jim Sterling's videos, and I was wondering what happened between Digital Homicide suing him and them going out of business. Thanks for clearing it all up.
Happy to be of assistance.
A long exhaustive lesson that trying to silence critics will only make them yell louder and draw more attention to your antics.
capthavic Streisan Effect. An effort to cover up a small, unnoticed issue that easily forgotten ended up raising public awareness of the issue.
Yeah I've heard that term before but they flipped out so hard it should be called performing Digital Homicide/Suicide
God, this is one beautiful story of the death of a horrid cancer.
These people are like wanna-be Uwe Bolls, they want to game the system with terrible products, but are too dumb to actually be able to do it effectively
I'm pretty sure Uwe Boll never sued his critics, though.
@@michaelbreen7865 No he just beat the shit out of them
That was honestly very entertaining to listen to.
Dude, you really should listen to the "interview." It's actually kind of amazing in all its nonsensical glory. Though, admittedly, you might consider keeping some strong liquor handy while doing so.
Learning more about the digital homicide meltdown saga in modern day just makes this whole story even more crazy to me. That's because it's 2024 and people are still acting just as entitled as them, especially in the entertainment industry. Now people are trying to virtue signal away criticism or use their identity to play the victim card. As if being being born a certain way or liking certain genders means you deserve success. Everyone needs to learn eventually that success is earned not given.
I'm just thinking to myself, "well surely that's it"..... then it keeps going on. Then i'm like "okay. The Romaine's surely have to be done and finished now"..... video keeps going.
These brothers are so relentless that it's honestly scary. Their drive and commitment to be the aggressor while also playing the victim card is psychologically confuddling. These people need help. They have serious mental anguish that needs to be resolved.
Entertaining video :)
Also, props for having the channel icon as Kamen Rider Odin :3
There are a few major inaccuracies with this video, the first being the designation of Jim Sterling as a games journalist, something he doesn't profess to being while the second is calling what Digital Homicide used to produce 'Games'.
I know this type of person. Rest assured, they will be back. It won't be called Digital Homicide; they'll change their name and try again. Mark my words.
And you were correct just take a look at root toot games or loot toot games
"I've been focusing on reviewing Duke Nukem Forever."
I feel sorry for you. That game is awfully generic and boring.
Yeah, he's in for a "fun" time with that one.
Yes, I know. The problem with reviewing a generic as hell game like DNF is that it's hard to talk about a game with so little identity
How about "It´s grown into a modern shooter only to get his neck broken in the second it stepped out"?
*****
The vast bulk of my script is explaining in great detail how the classic mechanics it started with and the modern mechanics it ended up with combine into a total mess.
*****
Then I´m looking forward to it :D
Good news Jadow, the lawsuit against Jim is finally over and Jim has emerged victorious.
B.C. Rivers so I've heard. Good thing I waited with that update video.
Can't wait for it.
Like a part 2?
Yes; though I focused so much on Life of Black Tiger I may as well wait until after Jim's summary video coming out tomorrow.
Jim's summary (if he actually does it) likely will have more important details so yeah waiting would be the better choice.
Ahhh so thats why Jim has an Encyclopedia Dramatica page
That and the dancing with a purple four-foot dildo.
And don't forget the Pogs in the Fleshlight.
@@CorganPrix And ultimate recurring characters Sterdust, the Cornflakes Homunculus, and of course, the best one, Pog Fucker!
21:27 I disagree. There comes a point where when a company stops listening to its customers and pulls this kind of shit, them they need to feel the weight of the people who they screw over. “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, will make violent revolution inevitable”
You are correct, since it has been shown to happen throughout history.
god damn, that game at 1:30 (which its name I don't know, maybe slaughtering grounds) has the most horrendous setup I've seen in ages, gun covers a third the screen, and the target, lower hud covers a further fifth, ffs.
Landon yeah, that game has a metric shit-ton of problems. I covered the game in full in my video "Steam Indie Reviews Vol 1" and the game does not have distinct ammo types; picking up any ammo box just refills the gun you have equipped at that second.
After watching your video the only thing that stuck was a bad pun about how they should have named their company digital suicide, that's about how memorable they, and their games, are.
Landon
Yes; everybody's been making that joke and it's very accurate.
I know this story is years old but it still a trip to revisit. It was BECAUSE of this controversy I had started watching Jimquisition
Great job. Digital Suicide would be an apt name for this company. ;)
Nitpick:
Digital Homicide didn't get the subpoena: they filed the motion, and Valve reacted before there could be any judicial response to it.
It makes you wonder how they made it through school. Do you think they threaten to sue their teachers if they were given bad grades?
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This video sums up the shitstorm pretty nicely. Keep up the good work, dude.
Their stuff truly is like a modern equivalent of Action 52.. except a whole lot more expensive than that somehow.
Holy hell, we both made the same comparison XD
Great minds think alike. :)
Oh man, i didn't think of that!
Homicide 52! Or looking at how things ended, Suicide 52...
No. At least THOSE games were mostly playable. They sucked, but you could play them. These games....aren't.
Good job on capitalizing on the DH dumpster fire, it worked. I will visit this channel weekly in search of new content with adblock off.
When ever I 'pass by'' this viedo in the tube suggestion list... XD I cant help to feel that ''2 kruegers , 3 krox clones 5 novas'' ..sounds like a list of extremly bad to eat crap fast food ^^
Woah, nice job. Glad I've randomly found you.
One thing: don't forget to catch your breath from time to time.
You keep referring to the body of Digital Homicide's work as "GAMES". You should in fact be referring to them as "SHOVELWARE". :D
Very valid point.
No, invalid point. Games are shovelware.
"Developers" is a bit of a stretch too...lol
Ziggletooth invalid point
Ziggletooth Someone is oversimplifying the term shovel-ware. By that logic all software is shovel-ware. We can then go on to say all cell phones are shovel-hardware, and on and on, till we have covered every product made by anybody...lol
A thorough and amusing overview of this little disaster. Ta very much for this; subbed.
Around 21 when you get mad, I feel excitedly want to.. get mad too. GET MADddd and throw lemon bombs, to digital homicide. Thank you for uncovering this massive drama..
This was a very comprehensive overview, nice work. Though you get a little overly loud sometimes to the point of the sound clipping.
DaVince21 Thanks! Sound and volume is the major problen I need to correct with my content.
Your coverage of this shitfest of a situation is still the one I keep coming back too. Mainly because I feel like you were trying to be reasonable, calm, and fair at first and then just stopped caring and DESTROYED them. It's fun.
If I understand correctly, abusing the judiciary system to bully or harass someone, is grounds for a lawsuit in the United States. Thus someone like Jim Sterling could theoretically have grounds to sue Digital Homicide for such abuse.
I've met the "homicide brothers" they seem nice but when i asked about their games, they refused to talk about them.
also i think we need to keep their games for archival purposes (aka this is how you don't make a game).
I welcome criticism with open arms for my work.
Digital Homicide for a time made Electronic Arts look good in comparison.
I almost suspected at one point that Jim's coverage of them actually would have gotten them more sales than it cost them just due to people buying these wretched things out of curiosity. I can understand that to a point as I collect terrible Kung Fu movies just because they are so bad they are entertaining.
I am glad I stumbled on your video here, subscribed about 5 minuted in.
I think the same thing; nobody knew who they were until they threw such a bitch-fit against Jim. If anything he helped them out... until they self-destructed.
Thanks for the sub!
They probably did sell more due to the coverage, but the craziness they pulled was so much more entertaining than their games though...lol
...and no problem. keep up the good work :)
Their parents must be so proud.
Is that Jim Sterlings face in the thumbnail?
Hilarious.
When will the Jim Sterling lawsuit be dismissed? It's clearly never gonna go anywhere.
Sadly they are now back.
Can't wait for The Slaughtering Grounds 2
Hey guess what! Digital homicide is making a comeback!
the interview/conversation/thing between sterling and robert romine is absolutely hilarious since robert repeatedly showed off how he wasn't capable of differentiating criticism of his games with attacks against him personally. I feel bad for his children. That type of insecurity is not healthy in a parent.
"Who on Earth would buy a game before it's even released!"
People who preorder games.
Damn, you're reviewing Duke Nukem Forever? That should be interesting, I hear that game is horrendous.
It's not so much horrendous as an extremely boring mess of mis-matched mechanics.
***** Have you gotten to the level on the spaceship with his forcibly impregnated "babes?" I hear that's meant to be horrendous.
Doctor Bane
I was more pissed off by the game grinding to a halt for forty minutes with you doing absolutely nothing while you walk through those rooms with women being raped.
And I have beaten the game; I'm trying to write a script now.
***** Ugh, good luck. It does sound a lot like they were sexualising what was happening, which is just vile. Oh, and of course Duke makes witty one liners while giving you the option to slap their breasts, because clearly this game was written by edgy kids.
Dizzy Gear Didn't know that, still don't want to play a game where the 'hero' laughs at his girlfriends getting raped.
14:28 ……
“if there’s 6 of the next title and SEVEN of the following…!”
XD
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! NOT THAT 5 second loop! NOOOO!!!!!!!
I will never get it out of my head now!!!!!
Thanks for this coverage, subscribed!
You should absolutely listen to that "interview" that Jim Sterling and Digital Homicide have, it's quite possibly one of the best things that's ever been uploading to RUclips.
*Uploaded
Oh, god damn it, how did I miss that?
Steve of the Dead its still up, look up DieDevDie. its on there
Rebel3000 Time for a rewatch, as it's simply impossible to absorb all the facepalming stupidity of Robert Romine in one sitting.
hey Darklord, if you are interested in other weird situation/scammers.. you should check out TrueBones on youtube.
A guy so delusional, he thinks adobe, unity, epic games, etc are all out to get him, still not understanding its a no-no to steal other people's animations.
Apparently DH indirectly admitted the real goal of the lawsuit against the 100 was to get the subpoena (probably to attack the 100 and scare everyone else into not touching them).
Now I think they dismissed the case because they didn't get it.
Then they should kiss their lucky charms the Judge didn't give them the info because that'd be a federal crime (and perhaps even as serious as Terrorism charges).
Another theory going around was that 89 were unnamed to scare everyone into not saying anything otherwise they could appear as a defendant.
'goodbye and good riddance' is the best outro towards DH ,lmao.
So basically, Digitally Homicide pulled a Donald Trump in the gaming field
Even though the information here is more complete and contains some of the best of Digital Homicide's insanity, Jim Sterling just tells it better. I wish he'd do a full recap like this.
16:16 to be fair I only ever pre-order first party nintendo games because they haven't failed to deliver on their products, at least in my point of view.
11:05 wow wow wow, that's a very nice steaming delivery you got there. Subscribing.
Is it me or has the Slaughtering Grounds music rubbed off on anyone. I just want to bob my head along with the music every time it comes on. Good times, good times........ I have rarely gotten so much entertainment from a game I would never play.
I hope saying that doesn't cause me to get sued for the price of the game plus $100,000,000 in interest.
it's not actually bad music. it's just repeated ad nauseum
Yeah it's decent, once other people start using it for videos.
28:14 "You can't spout shit this crazy for this long and constantly preach that someone is out to get you and everyone who doesn't like you is in on it without having a few genuine bats in the belfry"
Good thing they aren't billionaires or they might be the next Republican presidential nominees.
Great video man.
Man you have a strong voice and are really good at narration, for lack of a better word. You should have more subscribers than you do ;o
Also another lesson in life. Quality over Quantity
Nice, thanks for the summary! :) A pretty hilarious story, if I may say so.
From the sound of things, when Digital Homicide "re-entered the workforce," they apparently went on to write speeches for Donald Trump.
Somehow, that wouldn't surprise me today.
Digital Homicide are geniuses. They exploited and exposed every single weakness of Steam's almost non-existent quality control and made money off of it. I would like to shake their hands and have a beer with them.
Something about your voice really bugs me, but your coverage was so good I kept watching. Good video
I just wanted them to work on their games more...
I mean it is the digital age, you can update your game forever.
Digital Homicide
AKA Phoenix Games 2.0
A bit of correction - The Dismissal Motion was NOT denied, it has NOT been decided yet as Romine still present a motion for to make a correction and Jim Lawyers present a response against this NEW motion by Romine.
Hope you get more and more subs, good quality video.
hi jadow I love your reviews I always laugh also can you please review top shot dinosaur hunter for the Wii but it is also called Jurassic the hunted and can you please review bionicle heros thanks