ONE Change to Make Vanilla Ice BROKEN

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  • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
    @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +2522

    If Vanilla had the ability to see while in his stand and wasn't a Brute whose main thought was DIO's Vitamin D maybe he would have been one of the most broken stand users

    • @ph0to.
      @ph0to. 2 года назад +31

      My exact thought

    • @timurtheking
      @timurtheking 2 года назад +141

      i mean being dio's fan made him dangerous, he was a fantatic with super determination.

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +19

      @@timurtheking Yeah but He was a brute tho

    • @neonthunder3261
      @neonthunder3261 2 года назад +5

      Fax

    • @nidhogg8446
      @nidhogg8446 2 года назад +21

      Did you do the Vitamin D joke with vampires in mind?

  • @ziqizhu7364
    @ziqizhu7364 2 года назад +1442

    “Death 13 can solo Vanilla”.
    “In your dreams, bro!”
    “Exactly.”

    • @godusopp1797
      @godusopp1797 2 года назад +196

      "I bet Judgment could take Vanilla"
      "You wish"
      "Exactly"

    • @beef2504
      @beef2504 2 года назад +123

      Hey Ya! can solo Vanilla.
      "Only if he was lucky."
      Exactly.

    • @Combustie
      @Combustie 2 года назад +84

      "Dragon's Dream could defeat Vanilla easily."
      "Yeah but he'd need a lot of plot armor to achieve victory."
      "Exactly."

    • @godusopp1797
      @godusopp1797 2 года назад +131

      "I bet King Crimson actually can beat Vanilla"
      "
      -ctly"

    • @tornike47
      @tornike47 2 года назад +1

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      “Exaclty”

  • @kindadumb916
    @kindadumb916 2 года назад +450

    I love how most overpowered stands in JoJo are always built like this:
    Strength: pshhht idk…Building level at best?
    Hax: *R U N F O R Y O U R L I F E*

    • @raesspace
      @raesspace 2 года назад +23

      why is this so true

    • @_1DK_
      @_1DK_ 2 года назад

      lol

    • @fishii8237
      @fishii8237 2 года назад +13

      I can only really think of two that don't truly fit the first, green day and weather report

    • @toe_sucker_4165
      @toe_sucker_4165 2 года назад +1

      It truly is a bizarre adventure.

    • @Eterco
      @Eterco 2 года назад +13

      Truly the encapsulation of "RANDOM BULLSHIT GO!!"

  • @CoylerProductions
    @CoylerProductions 2 года назад +867

    Pretty much the only thing that hurts Cream is the fact Ice cannot see. Even then I'd still argue that Ice can still theoretically win against every single character and Stand in the series provided he can perfectly calculate where someone is gonna be so that Cream can successfully erase his targets

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +20

      He would lose to GER and MIH tho

    • @CoylerProductions
      @CoylerProductions 2 года назад +72

      @@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 not if Ice is just hiding in Cream,he's in a void of nothing that will instantly erase anything it touches. How exactly can Made in Heaven or GER beat it if Ice isn't gonna be affected by their abilities? Like when he's in Cream he's essentially left the current plain of existence and is no longer occupying physical space,he's just a giant ball of nothing that erases things from existence. Can't really reset that to zero if you can't see it,hear it or even touch it

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +31

      @@CoylerProductions MIH can literally reset the universe and accelerate time the sun comes out and Vanilla Ice is dead because the sun instantly kills him, GER resets every action Vanilla Ice does, Giorno can literally reset everything that tries to hurt him and their will back to Zero so basically Vanilla Ice tries to attack him, his attack gets nullified as if it never happened in the first place

    • @creature6715
      @creature6715 2 года назад +94

      @@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 if only vanilla ice could like, go inside his stand to avoid dealing with the sun

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +7

      @@creature6715 Bro gets speedblitzed

  • @Ghiaman1334
    @Ghiaman1334 2 года назад +1111

    So let's lay out some other really easy 'one changes'
    Crazy Diamond - heal himself
    The Hand - Okuyasu brain transplant
    Earth, Wind and Fire - can become anything
    Heaven's Door - just make it work how JoJo fans think it works
    Killer Queen Bites The Dust - can use both BTD and regular KQ at the same time
    King Crimson - can attack in time skip
    Soft and Wet - can steal life force
    Whitesnake - removing discs kills the target with possibility to revive
    The Sun - doesn't hurt the user
    Highway to Hell - user is protected from death
    Cheap Trick - user isn't killed by Stand
    Notorious B I G - sentience

    • @tgnm9615
      @tgnm9615 2 года назад +34

      If we changed these said stands. Which one will be the strongest now?

    • @fortnitesexman
      @fortnitesexman 2 года назад +161

      @@tgnm9615 i'd say heaven's door, you can learn anything, and potentially do anything (for example writing "strong enough to lift a mountain")

    • @daviddragonheart6798
      @daviddragonheart6798 2 года назад +95

      Well, in defense of Heaven's Door, we dont KNOW if it works that way or NOT. From what we have seen, sure looks like it COULD work the way we think it does

    • @L2DaK2Dap
      @L2DaK2Dap 2 года назад +43

      @@tgnm9615 King Crimson. Epitaph's forecasts are absolute except Diavolo can change his fate and now attack during erased time for maximum advantage. He can only lose if someone takes him out without him being able to react but as its Diavolo he is basically using Epitaph all the time and hiding.
      Edit: That said Killer Queen using Bites the Dust presents an interesting conundrum against King Crimson's time erasure. Also Notorious BIG is still unstoppable but Diavolo can at least skip past attacks and counter attack. So its a stalemate with BIG and KC to me.

    • @thelastmlg2699
      @thelastmlg2699 2 года назад +28

      I mean, removing the discs already kill you eventually, especially without life support

  • @day1emma
    @day1emma 2 года назад +251

    it's insane how little of a change is needed to make a stand broken

    • @lucawendel7644
      @lucawendel7644 2 года назад +11

      well yeah sometimes they only have 1 downside to balance it and if you take it away the balance shifts ofc

    • @ang1217sr
      @ang1217sr 2 года назад +7

      It’s already broken in all honesty. But this would make it just unbeatable by 99% of all Stands.

    • @jag_rex2412
      @jag_rex2412 2 года назад

      Well not always I'm still trying to figure out what change is needed for a scary monsters to be OP.

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku Год назад

      because araki likes to make OP stands but has to give them a weakness to make them defeatable, so it really only takes removing that one weakness to make them invincible.
      Take CD for example. Could've easily become a overpowered stand that turns the user unkillable, even more so than GE since it can be done instantly, but it was given the weakness of not being able to heal its user.

  • @Karanthaneos
    @Karanthaneos 2 года назад +87

    I would honestly be fascinated watching an interaction between Dio, Pucci and Vanilla Ice. I imagine Dio would be more inclined towards Pucci because he clearly was more intellectually proficient and calm, while Vanilla Ice seems to have been a lot more prone to anger issues, and doesn't have the decency to use the goddamn door.

    • @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917
      @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 2 года назад +4

      Seriously Vanilla would have won if He doesn't have that issue (even if Cream blinded him)

    • @sy1vester_337
      @sy1vester_337 2 года назад

      three so

    • @kaiofzm
      @kaiofzm Год назад +2

      @@toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 its like hes blinded by anger

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 года назад +108

    I laughed when Kira got his head ran in by an ambulance.

    • @lancebradshaw4829
      @lancebradshaw4829 2 года назад +6

      So did I. I was SO not expecting that to be the way that a main villain would die.

    • @Kingpharaohgaming
      @Kingpharaohgaming 2 года назад +4

      ​@@lancebradshaw4829 the funniest part is that he's literally the only main villain in jojo where his names both references luck and how he'll always be an unlikely victor in most scenarios which is why he never actually lost to the gang. He just dies to something unexpected which so happens to be a ambulance that was supposed to get him.

  • @Jokin_Jake
    @Jokin_Jake 2 года назад +372

    I think one small change I would make to the stand is to make it work similarly to The Hand. If everything Cream erased was constantly fused together like The Hand then you got yourself a miniature black hole! It would suck everything in because it's trying to fuse space in all directions. Vanilla Ice won't even need to see because all his enemies will be dragged towards him.

    • @hillbillypowpow
      @hillbillypowpow 2 года назад +71

      Uh oh I turned on my stand and destroyed the Earth

    • @xdryan2.o572
      @xdryan2.o572 2 года назад +7

      Interesting 🤔

    • @screamsgeometrically3185
      @screamsgeometrically3185 2 года назад +18

      To be fair it should work like a black hole considering it's just this unfillable ball of vacuum

    • @destroyercreater98
      @destroyercreater98 2 года назад +11

      Wait a minute. But isn’t cream’s erasure constantly going when it’s active? So would he just… suck up all the air in za wardo then accidentally suffocate everyone on the planet itself?

    • @Jokin_Jake
      @Jokin_Jake 2 года назад +13

      @@destroyercreater98 yep. One change that makes it into a broken stand.

  • @prismknight353
    @prismknight353 2 года назад +7

    “Killer Queen has already touched that Dio Picture.”

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 года назад +224

    Imagine if Vanilla Ice had a Requiem.

    • @Lunatic89097
      @Lunatic89097 2 года назад +29

      What would the ability be? A black hole?

    • @ibrahimbasymeleh4367
      @ibrahimbasymeleh4367 2 года назад +51

      @@Lunatic89097 depend on what the user desire is

    • @felipebatistadeoliveira211
      @felipebatistadeoliveira211 2 года назад +109

      @@ibrahimbasymeleh4367 getting Dio's hole but idk how that would work

    • @khamayounes5426
      @khamayounes5426 2 года назад +19

      ​@@ibrahimbasymeleh4367 this person gets it

    • @bald_lightning
      @bald_lightning 2 года назад +13

      @@ibrahimbasymeleh4367 I’d wager it would have return to zero but it only triggers when someone attacks dio

  • @troupemastergrimm6861
    @troupemastergrimm6861 2 года назад +4

    Man in the mirror
    Step 1:Throw Cream at mirror dimension
    Step 2:Get out
    Step 3:Wait for the day

  • @NotMichaelJ
    @NotMichaelJ 2 года назад +26

    Before I watch, I'm gonna assume the change is that he can see lol

    • @xdryan2.o572
      @xdryan2.o572 2 года назад +5

      I had the same thought as I saw the tittle 😏

  • @nykaimcneil6082
    @nykaimcneil6082 2 года назад +2

    0:23 “ensure it greatness against fiction entirely”
    *laughs in multiversal reality warped from marvel*

  • @corrinflakes9659
    @corrinflakes9659 2 года назад +82

    I always like how JoJo can avoid power creep so well. Reminder that a Stand User that is fought halfway in Part 5 could potentially simply solo a Stand duo that appears nearing the end of Part 5 that was causing trouble for more of the team than the former.
    Ghiaccio if placed to fight Secco and Cioccolata wouldn’t go well for the sadistic duo. Green Day’s mold spores might not even blossom under such harsh cold, let alone getting through that armor. While Oasis’s ability even if it can depressure-type melt through the ice, White Album still is based on the cold, meaning Secco’s surrounding water is going to be freezing his holiday sack off. And even if Secco succed the water to spit back at Ghiaccio from afar, Gently Weeps ability can probably completely defend Ghiaccio and even deflect the shards (assuming there’s enough continuous inertia to successfully ricochet back and not simply fall down after some bounces).
    I’m just saying Ghiaccio could’ve saved Sorbet and Gelato from their anime deaths. (I think explicitly Cioccolata was never shown killing them in manga right?)

    • @iantaakalla8180
      @iantaakalla8180 2 года назад +17

      Yeah, Cioccolata killing Sorbet and Gelato is an anime-only plot point.

    • @apestogetherstrong341
      @apestogetherstrong341 2 года назад +21

      imagine you're an Italian and this reads like different foods are fighting

    • @jjgarcia156
      @jjgarcia156 2 года назад +1

      @@apestogetherstrong341 Fighting Foodons?

    • @apestogetherstrong341
      @apestogetherstrong341 2 года назад +2

      @@jjgarcia156 Foo(d) Fighters

    • @turntechgodhead1975
      @turntechgodhead1975 2 года назад +1

      @@apestogetherstrong341 ice, chocolate, and Mud.......

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 года назад +52

    When you realize that Vanilla Ice can use Rasengan. Lol

  • @ootocannon4933
    @ootocannon4933 2 года назад +87

    Imagine that the Things cream erases goes to the same place of the things that the Hand erases. So avdol gets explodet by that one airbubble

    • @desadograisedrobot515
      @desadograisedrobot515 2 года назад +12

      It probably already bumped into a a pile of dirt.

    • @Darkandroid213
      @Darkandroid213 2 года назад +25

      Avdol would already be dead by then- either blood loss or all that cement that Cream is erasing would make him end up like Caesar.

    • @thelastmlg2699
      @thelastmlg2699 2 года назад +8

      Whatever cream transports that ain't vanilla ice gets desintegrated, remember polnareff's hand?

    • @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917
      @toyohimeyeswatatsuki6917 2 года назад +2

      Maybe...Iggy lowerhalf too...if You count OVA that is

    • @Predator20357
      @Predator20357 2 года назад +3

      If it the same place that isn’t just death, Avdol would’ve most likely already bleed out or left without any arms. Now that would be a crazy fanfic, Avdol the armless stand user of fire.

  • @hydrasent563
    @hydrasent563 2 года назад +273

    The best part is that Vanilla ice could probably kill Dio if he wanted to. Not even time stop could do anything against him once he in the void ball form. He could even kill ultimate Kars. Immortality doesnt matter when you get erased from existence.

    • @MrHAH-cd9ku
      @MrHAH-cd9ku 2 года назад +67

      It is possible, but it isn’t likely when the two are probably smart enough to realize Cream’s weakness and calculate things right.

    • @fortnitesexman
      @fortnitesexman 2 года назад +13

      @@MrHAH-cd9ku yeah...but they would need to see cream do it's thing before realizing the weakness or what it even does
      and by then, cream would need to hit them, which means it's over

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 2 года назад +51

      @@fortnitesexman i mean, Dio would already know as he is Vanilla's daddy.
      And about Kars... i mean, we do not know what he can really do if he realizes the existence of stands. He might be able to develop the best of them all (he is supossed to have the abilitites of alo living beings) so... but yeah that one will probably be a win for Vanilla Ice

    • @fortnitesexman
      @fortnitesexman 2 года назад +7

      @@jestfullgremblim8002 well first off, he would get hermit purple, second, i don't think he'd have the knowledge of what everyone's stand is, so it's not like he could choose ger unless he already knew about it for example
      so he'd effectively only be able to replicate cream
      but sure, if he has time to figure out how to do that (a few seconds) then he'd just be a better vanilla ice (who could possibly still see due to leaving a hand squirrel outside, not sure how that'd work tho)

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 2 года назад +7

      @@fortnitesexman i mean yeah, but as he will have the power from every living being, one could argue that after discovering stands, he could develop one with custom powers, anything he decides to have.
      But that's just a theory tho, we do not yave any idea of how a pillar man with a stand would play out

  • @soulchildmoore
    @soulchildmoore 2 года назад +11

    Za Hando with someone that is actually smart is terrifying.

    • @archinspide2652
      @archinspide2652 2 года назад +3

      Not really. You can just grab or chop off his arm.

    • @Partor6
      @Partor6 Год назад +1

      only if you make the stand as fast as Crazy Diamond maybe. True, its utility was still heavily underused because of Okuyasu's stupidity but even a smart okuyasu can't make his stand fast enough to be OP in combat against other stands

  • @yautjita-yt6985
    @yautjita-yt6985 2 года назад +2

    Vanilla in italy: im going to kill everyone-
    Gold experience: korega requiem da

  • @Robeebert
    @Robeebert 2 года назад +29

    If Kira puts a bomb on something, and that something gets put into the other dimension by Rob Van Winkle(Because it isn't destroyed, just misplaced), in theory Killer Queen's bomb could detonate in the other dimension.
    This is how I'd ass-pull a victory against Vanilla Ice, if I had to write Kira winning this.
    But I do think Kira would be a real underdog here, without many ways to take a win from VI

    • @sadbread2446
      @sadbread2446 2 года назад +5

      Cream's Dimension atomizes anything in it that isn't Vanilla Ice, so the bomb would be instantly destroyed upon entry

    • @mozzfio
      @mozzfio 2 года назад +4

      @@sadbread2446 but ice IS the bomb

    • @Robeebert
      @Robeebert 2 года назад

      @@sadbread2446 Well then, yeah. Unless the bombs being separated into atoms doesn't defuse them, but I'm pretty sure that is the case.
      Like I said, pretty big ass-pull to let Killer Queen take a W off of Cream
      Edit: syntax correction

    • @Dmoney0901
      @Dmoney0901 Год назад

      ​@@sadbread2446 But isn't the bombs places like not physical. How would his bomb be atomized if there's not anything to physically atomize?

    • @senasungur7937
      @senasungur7937 Месяц назад

      I think sheer heart attack can win against cream because cream is just a portal

  • @alemon2367
    @alemon2367 2 года назад +33

    He's trying to get DIO's Cream

  • @zorreid5191
    @zorreid5191 2 года назад +25

    Damn havent watched this channel since 2020. Its nice to see you still making JoJo videos

  • @tex3211
    @tex3211 Год назад +1

    5:40 A Vampires weak spot is his head and DIO probably knows it he could one shot Ice.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 года назад +18

    Vanilla Ice gave Iggy a much brutal death in the 90's Jojo OVA.

  • @MagentaRodent
    @MagentaRodent Год назад +1

    Dio is probably actually the god of the Underworld using the devil as a chair.

  • @machina5
    @machina5 2 года назад +134

    Man we're really scratching the bottom of the Jojo content barrel at this point. Yes, being able to see would make Cream stronger.

    • @anghainguyen9951
      @anghainguyen9951 2 года назад +21

      But will allow him to get affect by Heavy weather.

  • @Darkandroid213
    @Darkandroid213 2 года назад +7

    5:34
    He can just explode Vanilla Ice's head in TimeStop and the power of King Crimson can do the same, as long as Diavolo is quick enough to strike before Vanilla goes into the void and demolishes him.

    • @xdryan2.o572
      @xdryan2.o572 2 года назад

      Or maybe Diavolo can spam the time erasing until the Sun comes up 😏

    • @Darkandroid213
      @Darkandroid213 2 года назад

      @@xdryan2.o572 The void would probably count as shadow, so no sunlight would get in it. They'd just be there infinitely since we've never seen Diavolo lose stamina when erasing time- even though side-stepping for days would kind of hurt your legs.

  • @mrfrog1794
    @mrfrog1794 2 года назад +11

    I loved when Vanilla Ice said "it's Creamin' time" and Creamed all over everyone

  • @crimsoniscrispy9999
    @crimsoniscrispy9999 2 года назад +4

    how to make DIO the strongest character: -infinite time stop
    -immune to sunlight
    -remove his mouth so he stops talking and focus on fighting instead of bragging that he's better than all his enemies

  • @abaris461
    @abaris461 2 года назад +27

    4:12 Kira’s strengths comes from he’s Luck, both of he’s names referenced luck, that’s why he was difficult to tag and why he kept getting away. A battle between the two even though Kira lacks in combat prowess, Fate and Luck may shine on Kira enough to become the unlikely victor, maybe even against Dio and Diavolo but that’s a stretch. 😅

  • @mrindeed4339
    @mrindeed4339 2 года назад +2

    NOW HEAR ME OUT. lead him into super fly.

  • @sagescribe_
    @sagescribe_ 2 года назад +251

    I wanna argue that, in a hypothetical, Illuso could have a chance to beat a Vanilla Ice and Cream with sight.
    Why? Illuso’s Man in the Mirror can separate the Stand User from the Stand, rendering Cream unusable. Which then comes to a match of Vanilla Ice vs Illuso and Man in the Mirror.
    In a straight brawl, vampire Vanilla Ice would have the tenacity to essentially negate Man in the Mirror’s damage. AKA, Illuso and Man in the Mirror doesn’t have the power to one-shot kill Vanilla Ice.
    HOWEVER, if I remember right, Illuso has the ability to jump in and out of his Mirror World while leaving his victims trapped within the Mirror World. If that is the case, and Illuso is able to get the drop on Vanilla Ice before he can enter Cream, then Illuso wins since Stand and User are separated and can’t use one another, and Vanilla Ice would be forever trapped in Mirror World until Illuso dies

    • @yurikadry4721
      @yurikadry4721 2 года назад +59

      Risotto Nero aswell, even able to see with cream, metallica can make you invisible and can deny the blood that a vampire needs. So is a matter of who gets out of the ability first.

    • @kronos3129
      @kronos3129 2 года назад +21

      this is countered provided that vampires don’t have reflections in Jojo’s, but i’m not sure if we’ve ever seen an example of this

    • @wither_klng2881
      @wither_klng2881 2 года назад +43

      @@kronos3129 We have actually seen dios reflection in part 1 when he puts his 3 fingers to the glass when he first becomes a vampire you can you can see the reflection of his fingers on the glass

    • @javiermedina9392
      @javiermedina9392 2 года назад +21

      Here is the thing,man in the mirror as a stand his pretty weak(moody blues beat his ass)and vanilla ice is a vampire so im pretty sure vanilla ice would just kick man in the mirror ass

    • @arthurlam751
      @arthurlam751 2 года назад +6

      @@wither_klng2881 but Straitzo's reflection wasn't visible when fighting Jojo in the cafe/bar.

  • @dr.kujojotaro
    @dr.kujojotaro 2 года назад +1

    I love when DIO said *“ELLO GOVERNOR!”*

  • @InuYashaboy707
    @InuYashaboy707 2 года назад +8

    You know, an interesting one is that Cream probably low diffs D4C as well, at least without Love Train. He can't even go into another dimension to grab another Ice because the void will just eat whatever he tries to use to transport him.

    • @diegobrando5800
      @diegobrando5800 2 года назад +2

      He could also defeat WoU since other dimesions dont wort with logic
      and thats a stretch but maybe if he stays in the void MiH has no effect on him

    • @unlimitedbladeworks2067
      @unlimitedbladeworks2067 2 года назад

      @@diegobrando5800 Well, the WOU is the embodiment of calamity. Even if you kill the user WOU still exists unless you destroy the concept of it.

    • @sirjoesphjoestar8361
      @sirjoesphjoestar8361 2 года назад

      @@diegobrando5800 WoU will shift calamity to his side and make ice explode in creams dimension he is logic itself after all

    • @adzo147
      @adzo147 3 месяца назад

      @@sirjoesphjoestar8361no because it had no effect on go beyond which exists in another dimension

  • @AlfredoPuente8
    @AlfredoPuente8 2 года назад +4

    Can instantly destroy anything it touches...
    DESTRUCTION POWER: B.

  • @Bradenn
    @Bradenn 2 года назад +7

    would actually really like to see this made into a series

  • @nidhogg8446
    @nidhogg8446 2 года назад +4

    Dio would DEFINITELY find a way to get Vanilla Ice and Pucci together

  • @secondaccount5978
    @secondaccount5978 2 года назад +3

    i hope this turns into a series. loved it

  • @eramo607productions6
    @eramo607productions6 2 года назад +5

    4:13 Yes. It all depends on how things play out. If Kira noticed that Vanilla Ice is in town and starts to kill people, he would instantly be alerted by it in the news or he would be alerted by another Stand User. In fact, he also had one of the Stand Arrows, so there’s a good chance that one of the arrows would help give him the ability to stop Vanilla Ice for good as well, or he would start his own army of Stand Users to stop Vanilla Ice. The same could also be said for DIO over Heaven, but that depends on whether or not that the arrow he had will transform his Stand into a Requiem Stand, which we both know there is a lot of debate around that factor. There’s also the Back Ally which Kira knows about, so that’s also an instant win there too. In fact depending on how things go, Rohan would have an easier time beating Vanilla Ice if he forced him to see his manga or tricks him into going into the Back Ally. For me it depends solely on why Vanilla Ice is there. The answer would be DIO trying to conquer the whole planet, which was his goal. So they’d both be in Morioh together and eventually Kira would notice an army of zombies or Stand Users and would instantly be alerted. Which would cause him to use the arrow to stop DIO and Vanilla Ice, or run away from Morioh and use it on different people for his own Stand Army. The only problem is that Kira doesn’t want to leave Morioh, so the latter isn’t possible, especially when Kira doesn’t like making connections (expect for when it comes to hands.) But an additional power that helps Kira stop them is possible, and he could win in the end. Even without a Requiem Stand, he still has a good chance of winning depending on the new ability he gets. Which is guaranteed to give him one that beats DIO and Vanilla Ice easily because that’s how fate in JoJo works. Though DIO Over Heaven would probably still beat him either way considering Eyes of Heaven when GER was beaten because DIO altered the reality they were in into something more preferable, which shouldn’t have happen because GER says NO to everything.

    • @eslin2845
      @eslin2845 2 года назад

      Pretty sure TWOH beats GER because GER is causality manipulation while TWOH is manipulation of reality as a whole

    • @eramo607productions6
      @eramo607productions6 2 года назад

      @@eslin2845 There’s a reason why videos rank GER over TWOH. Because GER says NO to EVERYTHING, so it should’ve said no to TWOH’s ability even though we didn’t see that happen is Eyes of Heaven. I’m fully away that TWOH can manipulate reality to one DIO prefers, but GER can say NO to that.

    • @eramo607productions6
      @eramo607productions6 2 года назад

      @@SurgeDev1094 That doesn’t change my mind that GER isn’t better than TWOH because GER doesn’t care whether or not how strong any stand is as well as their ability, because DIO using the ability at all is an action. It does not change the fact it changes reality to anything it chooses, because GER would stop it on a whim, no matter what. Doesn’t matter about priority because GER doesn’t care about what the stand has. It’s why his stats are incalculable.

    • @eramo607productions6
      @eramo607productions6 2 года назад

      @@SurgeDev1094 Let’s also not forget that TWOH’s ability only works when DIO attacks his opponent. So that’s already a lose for him because that’s an action, so it’s already not viable to do, and even if he uses Time Stop, GER is able to move in Diavolo’s ability as well, so that’s off the table.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 года назад +9

    Fun fact: Vanilla Ice hates dogs, while Araki loves dogs.

  • @plaant6677
    @plaant6677 2 года назад +1

    this isnt vanilla ice, this is strawberry permafrost

  • @ProjektTaku
    @ProjektTaku 2 года назад +4

    Legit, you give crazy diamond the ability of self heal and josuke's basically invincible and unkillable.
    Either that or just allow it to restore people to whatever state they were in their life and josuke can just turn someone in a fetus or before then.

    • @Partor6
      @Partor6 Год назад

      That's technically what they did with GE, which is why I don't really like that stand, just a powered up version of CD, with more utility.

  • @gabrielaragon9562
    @gabrielaragon9562 2 года назад +1

    Heavy water: ohh now you can see
    *SNAIL*

  • @gamingrexshow1832
    @gamingrexshow1832 2 года назад +7

    He would basically solo most of part 3-6 stands, but if he went against part 7-8 he gets absolutely destroyed

    • @JosephFlores-yn4yi
      @JosephFlores-yn4yi Год назад

      Depends on the stand

    • @memoryofsalem4474
      @memoryofsalem4474 11 месяцев назад

      You think "tomb of the boom", "scary monsters", "cream starter", "king nothing" and "nut king Cole" have a chance against cream? What are you smoking?

    • @jagerdergroe8604
      @jagerdergroe8604 10 месяцев назад

      Bruh Vanilla Ice literally negates Wonder of U and Calamity.
      And he will tie with D4C Love Train since neither could hurt each other.

  • @Justbathwater
    @Justbathwater 2 года назад +1

    If vanilla ice could stop being hellen keller he would probably make dio his slave. Vanilla could just go in the ball and be untouchable.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 года назад +11

    I wanna know what would've happened if Vanilla Ice went after Joseph, Jotaro and Kakyoin?

    • @MrHAH-cd9ku
      @MrHAH-cd9ku 2 года назад +4

      Tricked by Star Finger and then wrecked by Joseph’s Hamon, but possibly not before killing Kakyoin (he is fated to die >:)

  • @neroisntdead3681
    @neroisntdead3681 2 года назад +1

    Cream is said to hide in another dimension, Valentine can just pull him from that dimension, or pull a non stand user version of himself into his dimension to blow him up.
    Then again, it's Valentine, he beats many people.

  • @shilaizhao246
    @shilaizhao246 2 года назад +5

    Honestly I think that white snake could possibly get the drop on Ice only if the time is right and he gets the first strike. White snake could practically just remove the stand and memory discs of Ice, getting him into a coma like state, then taking the op stand disc somewhere safe, not in some kind of carpark. The finishing move is to just put Ice into the sun to, you know, let the sun one shot the vampire.

  • @takebacktheholyland9306
    @takebacktheholyland9306 2 года назад

    I like how kaleb's definition is love of this vanilla train but without the corpse parts, and it could kill you

  • @alc4528
    @alc4528 2 года назад +42

    So okyasu loses in a normal situation but let’s just say he somehow knows all about cream and can time za hando right.
    What happens when cream and za hando’s swipe touch each other?

    • @fortnitesexman
      @fortnitesexman 2 года назад +10

      easy, nothing would happen, cause za hando wouldn't touch cream to begin with
      cream in it's black hole form is essentially non existent, so there's nothing to touch
      thus nothing for za hando to erase, but za hando has something for cream to erase, so it would essentially just be like if our boy oku walked into cream on his own

    • @jestfullgremblim8002
      @jestfullgremblim8002 2 года назад +6

      @@fortnitesexman yeah, Okuyasu would just lose his hand lol

  • @Phl4.13
    @Phl4.13 Год назад +1

    give me better (vanilla) ice cream im hungry

  • @epsilon752
    @epsilon752 2 года назад +3

    Could balance the ability by making him able to sense fresh blood (because he's a vampire at this point) so he'd be able to hunt down anyone that's injured. Then I can imagine fights against characters who have to try and stop their bleeding to avoid detection or they have to throw their blood to distract him, or he has to fight a team with a healer like Josuke or Giorno and unless he gets a straight up kill they can just heal afterwards and have a tense back & forth.
    Also, if he comes out into sunlight, he dies anyway because he's a vampire, so he'd need to somehow avoid that happening in any given scenario.

  • @sci5850
    @sci5850 Год назад +1

    I had a gut feeling the change that would make him utterly broken would be being able to see while in his stand... I mean it's obvious, no?

  • @wither_klng2881
    @wither_klng2881 2 года назад +27

    To make King Crimson broken... well just teach Diavolo to use his stand. Like he never uses his most BROKEN ability, He phases through all matter so he could just put his fist in someones head, resume time, then they have a Stands fist in their brain.
    Also stands cant be hurt from non stands so King Crimson is fine

    • @ExplosiveGrape
      @ExplosiveGrape 2 года назад +1

      Idk if that would actually be possible tho?
      King Crimson is skipping time not simply phasing through matter so think his hands might just be pushed out or something idk?

    • @wither_klng2881
      @wither_klng2881 2 года назад +4

      @@ExplosiveGrape In his fight with Risotto. He skips time for 0.5 seconds. So that the bullets phase through him.

    • @ojaskalra4863
      @ojaskalra4863 2 года назад +7

      KC’s ability relies on fate, it’s not just temporary intangibility. A hand appearing in someone’s head would go against the fate intended for them, and Diavolo has the ability to exempt only himself from fate, not alter that of any other people.

    • @ExplosiveGrape
      @ExplosiveGrape 2 года назад +1

      @@ojaskalra4863 Thanks for saying what I was saying but more clearly.

    • @vivelespatat2670
      @vivelespatat2670 2 года назад

      So, Timestop ?

  • @luckyowl10
    @luckyowl10 2 года назад +1

    Vanilla Dio Puci is the true ship, really like the series of videos about changing standa

  • @froctoof6059
    @froctoof6059 2 года назад +6

    Vanilla ice in part 7: 💀
    Vanilla ice in part 8: 💀

    • @sadbread2446
      @sadbread2446 2 года назад +6

      Vanilla Ice would solo everything except arguably Love Train in Part 7 with this upgrade. He can activate it before Tusk Act 4 can be triggered, Scary Monsters Diego might have a chance if he can scratch him before hand, FV would be susceptible to getting his head erased before he can dimension hop since Cream can erase things he would use to jump between dimensions and because Cream is a ball of nothing also cannot be used indirectly to swap into different dimensions to trick Vanilla Ice, and Vanilla Ice would be immune to things like Ticket to Ride's divine protection because he exists in a dimension where there is nothing in it and therefore nothing to go wrong. Similarly, this Cream would also be immune to Wonder of U'd calamity; there's no environment around Cream to draw into it to damage him.
      Soft & Wet, however, may be able to damage Cream or may be able to use the same dimension as Cream with Go Beyond, where its bubbles are in a state of existence without existing, thereby erasing anything they touch. But since Cream itself also technically doesn't exist while it's in its void state it's super unclear how these two things would interact to me.

  • @swaysway5301
    @swaysway5301 2 года назад +1

    a character with enough Physical strength like Goku or sailor moon can break through the dimension like how Super Buu broke out of the time Champer

  • @davidlewis7683
    @davidlewis7683 2 года назад +7

    Hey, I think all of your videos are great keep up the good work! I just wanted to ask how should you think silver chariot requiem would react to vanilla ice. I mean he’s already inside his dimension(and his stand) so how would his stand be reversed on him?

    • @MrHAH-cd9ku
      @MrHAH-cd9ku 2 года назад +1

      If Cream becomes disloyal to Vanilla Ice, then it is likely it will intentionally disintegrate Vanilla Ice, swiftly ending him. The dimensional obstructions don’t matter - Silver Chariot Requiem’s range reaches into other dimensions, hence the mutations that began to appear before Bucciarati and Diavolo saved the world from the rogue stand.

    • @davidlewis7683
      @davidlewis7683 2 года назад +2

      Oh, Ok! Thanks for explaining to me!

  • @Razor-hw2lh
    @Razor-hw2lh Год назад

    Whitesnake: Takes vanilla's stand
    Pucci: GG

  • @conansglasses2645
    @conansglasses2645 2 года назад +3

    Pls do one for hermes ! KISS is such a cool stand and its really bad how underutilized it ended up being

  • @danteakechi7330
    @danteakechi7330 2 года назад +2

    If cream goes into another dimension to use it’s ability then kuwabara slaps him

  • @ale-xsantos1078
    @ale-xsantos1078 2 года назад +3

    Okay hear me out
    *What if you gave Anubis to Vanilla Ice?*
    Anubis is not only able to see where it is going without having eyes but it also can pass through solid objects without interacting with them
    Meaning the user of Cream not only would know where he is and where he's going, but could choose to NOT erase something it is passing through
    That plus the fact Anubis keeps improving the user's skills the longer he possesses them and - more importantly - doesnt simp as hard for Dio as Vanilla Ice ashis only real purpose being to cut down(and in this case - erase) everything and everyone who gets in his way, means Cream would only keep getting more powerful and serve no one
    Therefore could simply stay in the void forever, destroying things, getting stronger and *he would be happy about it*
    *"Anubis Ice" would be a unstoppable combo*

    • @ang1217sr
      @ang1217sr Год назад

      The issue is Cream erases everything that enters his mouth but Ice. I don’t know if it’d leave out Anubis too if he controlled Ice.

    • @Dmoney0901
      @Dmoney0901 Год назад

      Also you can't have 2 stands😢

    • @ale-xsantos1078
      @ale-xsantos1078 Год назад

      Tell that to Polnareff

  • @skeepodoop5197
    @skeepodoop5197 7 месяцев назад +1

    Sounds strong and all until you realize that light must pass inside Cream to them to see ouside of them, meaning sunlight now screwes them over even while inside Cream.

  • @STPstudio47
    @STPstudio47 2 года назад +11

    I hated that he killed two of the main characters. I think that's too much for a minor villain to do. I would be fine with him killing Iggy, but with Avdol that was too much. If DIO was the one who killed Avdol at the mantion it would have been a seriously heavy and impactful way of introducing the main villain to our heroes... And I think that Avdol and Dio had some unfinished business, would love to see their fight, Avdol saying something like "I was terrified when we first met, but now I'm ready to face you" and Dio still trying to change his mind like "I see your will has really grown, I could make you even stronger if you join me". Avdol's second death was lame either way, the first one was way better and impactful

    • @fortnitesexman
      @fortnitesexman 2 года назад +7

      i wouldn't call him a minor villain, he's dio's right hand man, and could've effortlessly taken out any one of the jojo group if they were there instead of avdol
      and i think having dio's right hand man be this dangerous really shows us how dangerous dio himself is due to vanilla essentially viewing him as god
      avdol's first death was honestly just mid af, he got cucked by a stand as lame as g u n, while his second death has his entire body fucking erased within an instant and out of nowhere, leading to iggy and polnareff needing to pull a bunch of shit out their ass to try and defeat the dude, two dudes trying their best vs one dude not trying all that hard, and that's *just* dio's right hand man?

    • @STPstudio47
      @STPstudio47 2 года назад +1

      @@fortnitesexman Whaaat? His first death was mid??? Bruh, it's not always about an epic battle, avdol's first "death" was very good. It had such an impact on Polnareff and Kakyoin, it was perfectly filmed, how the music stops, he falls in slow-motion while polnareff is looking on him, then tries to act strong but in reality cries because of his mistakes. And his real death is too quick and less impactful because he already had a death scene and was brought back

    • @fortnitesexman
      @fortnitesexman 2 года назад

      @@STPstudio47 his first death was cheesy af, the slowmo especially takes the tension away, and polnareff trying to act strong was more funny than anything because of how generic of an anime trope it is, he might aswell have run down a tunnel screaming about how he had become sex, and the last thing here is the largest issue with his first death, it was a fake out death, but the second one honestly doesn't suffer from it, cause avdol very clearly does die here

    • @STPstudio47
      @STPstudio47 2 года назад

      @@fortnitesexman Bruh what are these points😂

    • @sakshamparmar9240
      @sakshamparmar9240 2 года назад

      @@fortnitesexman ngl I disagree with you heavily on this point and agree with the op. Avdol's first death was much better than his second one. It is in no way corny. The slow mo effect was to show how impactful that death was on polnareff. Avdol's first death entirely changed polnareff's character.

  • @ycleptubi8935
    @ycleptubi8935 2 года назад

    not being a vampire, for one
    also not having a short temper with a literal dog

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 года назад +5

    The only minion of Dio to actually kill 2 members of the Stardust Crusaders.

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 2 года назад +2

      Yeah He killed more members of the crusaders than DIO did

    • @cyrus8886
      @cyrus8886 2 года назад

      Scary part is that he was gonna kill 3
      If Avdol didn't push them away
      All 3 would've gotten erased in one fell swoop

  • @jeraldfan
    @jeraldfan 2 года назад +1

    I have one change for vanilla ice. Give him GER

  • @lancebradshaw4829
    @lancebradshaw4829 2 года назад +4

    Cream Requiem might have been able to get around the sight limitation, although it's hard to predict what a requiem stand's powers would be. It seems to depend in part on what is needed by the user at the time, and also whether the user has enough power to control the stand afterwards: Cream Requiem being free of Vanilla Ice's control sounds dangerous.

  • @demi-femme4821
    @demi-femme4821 2 года назад

    Cream already has the potential to beat Goku in the right circumstances, letting him see while in his invincible nothing orb is a whole other level.

  • @brib2660
    @brib2660 2 года назад +3

    I see people mot giving this certain part of cream's abilities not enough attention: creams creates a portal and SENDS people to a void, not ERASING them completely which means they'd still be conscious and if so, just imagine this from Avdol's perspective, in a void, unsure of his companions' fates, lost 2 of his limbs, just imagine how terrifying it was for him

  • @999Sinister
    @999Sinister 2 года назад

    Cream : Over Heaven
    can now clone his stand and open multiple wormhole dimensions

  • @hashiramasenju686
    @hashiramasenju686 2 года назад

    “Vanilla ice solos everybody”
    Golden experience requiem:*shows up*

  • @MUIZILLASAURUS_REX
    @MUIZILLASAURUS_REX Год назад

    diver down solos, dives into the void and turns vanilla ice into origami, quite literally

  • @minecraftperson8412
    @minecraftperson8412 Год назад +1

    *Opinion*: Cream with sight 'could' beat Golden Experience Requiem.
    All Vanilla Ice needs to do is hop into cream before the zero point is set. Then all GER can do is delay the inevitable ball of vaporization speeding towards him via Return To Zero. However, if the zero point is set before Vanilla Ice hops in Cream, GER just needs to RTZ as many times as he needs to get an opening before Vanilla Ice becomes basically unstoppable.

  • @jamesblayde82
    @jamesblayde82 2 года назад

    "'Ello Governor! I'm Going to destroy you Jostars!' Because he's British" This left hook came out of NOWHERE!

  • @karatheshapeshifter1784
    @karatheshapeshifter1784 2 года назад

    bruh imagine the hand tries to erase cream’s voidball

  • @brodyempsall3912
    @brodyempsall3912 2 года назад +2

    I would like to see what happens if Za Hando erased the space Cream is hiding in

  • @stevenintel
    @stevenintel 2 года назад +1

    "Blonde *American Psycho*
    *HE SAID IT HE FUCKING SAID IT*

  • @severeking9570
    @severeking9570 2 года назад

    Bro im just imagining kira as a person whos trying to touch a crocodiles tongue

  • @GnomeYoutube
    @GnomeYoutube 2 года назад

    Congrats on 400K!

  • @BirdieSenpai
    @BirdieSenpai 2 года назад

    I never knew I needed British Kaleb in my life.

  • @astralope
    @astralope 2 года назад

    Jotaro: So it's the same type of stand as star platinum.

  • @wasabiguy2450
    @wasabiguy2450 2 года назад +1

    Glad to see you posting more, time for a new video!

  • @blackknightjack3850
    @blackknightjack3850 2 года назад

    Without even watching the video I can be fairly certain it's "He can see where he's going"

  • @R4mMyB3l0ved
    @R4mMyB3l0ved 2 года назад

    you forgot one thing, Kaleb, any fanmade stand ever can solo cream even with the change

  • @snowboundwhale6860
    @snowboundwhale6860 Год назад +1

    Giving Cream sight is definitely the strongest single "minor change" it could get. An interesting alternative could be if it could choose to store other things in it's void safely & w/out destroying them the same way it can Vanilla Ice. Then it'd be like a bag of holding that can turn into a sphere of annihilation; It's not a boost to it's lethality but it gives a lot of utility.

  • @landonsalazar461
    @landonsalazar461 2 года назад +1

    the only stand that comes to mind that would beat this vanilla ice is probably death 13

  • @icydislocation
    @icydislocation 2 года назад

    I really loved to see the "What ifs" and requiem stands speculations, so id love to see more!
    Could you make a "What if" video about Bucciarati getting the arrow instead of giorno? Or just sticky fingers requiem speculation?
    Anyways, great video! Keep it up man, probably my favourite youtuber when it comes to jojo!

  • @15xmatt
    @15xmatt 2 года назад

    Cool video, would love to see more concept stands videos in the future!

  • @LatinaCreamQueen
    @LatinaCreamQueen 2 года назад

    This made me realize more than anything that I'd watch alternate reality Naruto stories. That would be neat.

  • @aceofconquest5745
    @aceofconquest5745 2 года назад +1

    So dio could obliterate vanilla ice's head in timestop in a single blow if he doesn't mess around.

  • @ZoeJyAB
    @ZoeJyAB Год назад

    I would like to see Cheap Trick get onto Vanilla Ice who then just becomes void and Cheap gets absolutely demolished

  • @Perfect-CeI-l
    @Perfect-CeI-l 2 года назад

    "what would i wanna do with Vanilla ice then make better cream"
    -Kaleb I.A.

  • @RealLifeIronMan
    @RealLifeIronMan 2 года назад +1

    A champion fighter once told me the key to winning is to be the best at one particular scenario and be able to force your opponent into that scenario. I can think of many stands like this.
    Yellow Temperance for example doesn't even need a buff. It is the perfect assassination stand. Just pack snacks, have the user always disguised, infect, disguise the infection, and the user flees after infection. Jotaro would have died if the user just fled and never let down the disguise.

  • @crabohato4954
    @crabohato4954 2 года назад

    God, Cream doesn't have to fight against anybody. He can just emerge INSIDE of them

  • @thegreatgamingkid8252
    @thegreatgamingkid8252 Год назад

    That “concept” character tier list thing sounds cool

  • @darthsacul3940
    @darthsacul3940 2 года назад

    I love this video simply because you remembered that Dio is British.

  • @AlfredoPuente8
    @AlfredoPuente8 2 года назад +1

    "I can see you".

  • @MDClips2464
    @MDClips2464 Месяц назад

    I like to think dio didn't tell vanilla ice about his weakness to sunlight so he just accidentally kills himself by going outside