I've heard the 11 games story so many times that late in my life, in a senior home when I am on my final brain cell, "baker went on a 11 game streak and was the 4th best quarterback in those 11 games" is all I will be able to say until I finally die
Spot on Shannon. They do the same thing with Trevor Lawrence and every single #1 overall pick.. it’s always the organization/coach/other players fault never theirs
That’s exactly why the team had success. They played perfect AFC North football. Run hard, play good defense and win in the trenches. They didn’t win because of Baker
So basically Skip Bayless his argument is hey he's still better than Sam darnold so he's not a bust Sam darnold is utterly horrible so that's not a good comparison to be better then tbh
Skip loves using the 11 games from last year. He loves using old stats to make a point for today. He did the same thing with Tebow. Every argument he would bring up that Tebow threw for 316 yards in a playoff game against the Steelers. 🤦🏾♂️
He should’ve got surgery wayyyy earlier in the season so he could’ve already Been rehabbing. It’s not like him vs case keenum is that much of a drop off
Atleast Shannon knows the hard work it takes to get drafted in a professional league, and what most athletes have to overcome, then to call somebody a Bust. It seems like it comes out so easy for the ones who never came close to putting on a pro jersey in any sport. Stephen. A Smith
Skip Bayless: Baker Mayfield will be a franchise QB for the browns and 3 other franchises Shanon Sharpe: Baker Mayfield will be the owner of a fast-food franchise that's about it
If I'm not mistaken Baker Mayfield shoulder was fine in 2018 an 2019! 2019 he had one less interception then touchdowns and he had about 20 something touchdowns which means he had about 20 something interceptions Same thing in 2018 had about 20 touchdowns an about 16 or 17 interceptions he had one good year last year which is fool's gold You can't ignore the large sample size for one stretch of 11 games
Well said. As a Steelers fan and life long Pittsburgh resident, wee hope Baker stays w the Browns! Because that means they'll remain TERRIBLE! Yes they beat us last year in the playoffs, but we turned the ball over 6x in the game and 5x In the 1st half. Ben still hung over 500 yds passing on them
His shoulder was also fine when they played the Chiefs in the Divisional round of the playoffs...when Pat Mahomes got knocked out of the game and Baker couldn't outplay the Chiefs backup QB to win that playoff game🤣
@@kidlightning1736 LMAO Baker played well that game try again.must not remember the helmet to helmet hit against Peoples on a dime from Baker. Mahomes only missed 2 drives. Stop talking out your a**. Henne didn't score a point.
@@redwinstead7873: I'm not black and I'm saying facts. Jerry Rice once said you are as good as your last game. You have to prove yourself year in and year out.
Skip is so delusional on defending baker mayfield he said “he beat the Texans who have been really good this year they cause a lot of people problems” LMAO
Just as a side note I’m glad that OBJ is doing well with the Rams. Not taking a shot at Baker, I’m just glad OBJ has had success especially after seeing the way AB acted. 🙌🙌
I wonder what the excuse is going to be next year after it's a full season of OBJ being gone and Cleveland and Baker Mayfield continue the go the same route is it still going to be Odell Beckham Juniors fault even a year later after he's been gone and they get a fresh start with a fresh training camp
Skip Bayless can never just stick to present time he always has to bring up last year, like bro just admit it he’s having a bad year this year the question is not about last year😂😂😂😂😂
Baker Mayfield is like the new Tim tebow to Skip Bayless ! always talking about a short period of game stretchs as the end-all be-all and ignoring everything else outside of it!
Skip knows damn well Baker is going to continue to get more opportunities in the NFL based on things that have nothing to do with his play on the field. But he knows Shannon doesn’t want to go down that road on air if he doesn’t have to, so he keeps pushing it to make it seem like he’s winning the argument. Shannon has provided more than enough evidence otherwise why Baker just ain’t it
I think Baker has been in a better situation all career than Darnold has been at both teams. I think a Darnold led Brown’s would have been better than a Baker led Browns
GOTTA give Skip credit.....He doesn't go back on his word.....Never waffles on his comments. That is what a man does! He truly stands by his opinion(s). Love him or Hate him....he gives it to you with consistency.
Yall remember when people criticized TO for playing in the SUPER BOWL for a broken leg, but I haven't heard anyone criticize Baker for playing with a broken shoulder that hindered his team..
I feel like Skip Bayless is forgetting the Green Bay game somehow someway he tries to use that to further his argument like bro he threw 4 picks an was the reason they lost Any time they've done good it's been because Nick chubb's not Baker Mayfield
If I'm a Browns player or fan, I feel absolutely robbed by a Selfish Baker Mayfield who played hurt for next years contract, and the Brown's management for pushing it.
@@James-yf7vy to be fair to the Steelers front office, Mason and Haskins ain't it. If you guys had Keenum, Huntley, or Minshew as a backup... maybe I'd bench Ben. Ben is selling merchandise for you guys like crazy. You atleast have the farewell tour.
Skip keeps trying to get Shannon to say he’s trash. Shannon never said that, he’s just saying that instead of looking at just his rookie season and 11 games last year to say he’s great like Skip, he’s taking that along with his ENTIRE career and just saying he’s average, not trash but average. Just because your not great doesn’t mean your bad.
I love that skip takes things to the absolute extreme. Say hes a bust bet that he'll never be a starter again like bro come on now, for a first overall pick yeah hes a bust of coarse he'll be a starter again there are some teams that need an average qb
Someone else just mentioned it, Skip is always “knocking on wood” for the players he doesn’t like, or is about to speak negatively on. He doesn’t do that with TB12, Baker, KD, etc….his faves.
As a Browns fan, Baker being injured was probably the worst thing that could have happened. Watching the team was so frustrating, cuz i have no idea how much of Bakers problems were him bring too hurt to play, and how much of it was Baker just not being good. Had the season played out exactly the same, but Baker was never injured, it would be better cuz then we’d at least know Baker is the problem, but as of now, we’re got no clue. So infuriating man.
Pittsburgh rested there starters for us to even get in last year, and then they gave us the ball 73 times in the first 5 minutes and then Baker was outplayed by Chad Henne in the second half of the chiefs game. He’s gone, stefanski and berry don’t like him, they didn’t draft him, they’ll trade for Cousins, Ryan, or bring back Cribbs to run wildcat lmao
It’s funny how Skip constantly talks about those 11 games in ‘20 but if I’m not mistaken Baker has the same group this year when the Browns cut OBJ and they’re eliminated from the playoffs
Three points: 1) Baker was throwing to the same guys this year as he did those last 11 games of 2020. But Skip thinks they’re bums now. 2) The Steelers team that Cleveland beat in the playoffs last year wasn’t “riding high”. They were lucky to get to 11-0, got exposed and played terribly down the stretch. Plus 100 turnovers in that game didn’t hurt either. 3) Baker has (arguably) the best RB combo in the entire league, as well as (when healthy) a top tier O-line. If Skip seriously thinks that Baker goes to Houston and comes alive, he really does need a new TV.
At this point, I just completely fast forward through everything skip says on this topic. He’s collected a few cherry picked stats and just repeats it over and over. Professional analyst? He lies worse than a politician
I love skip and all his loyalty…. If he love you he’ll defend you to the end… but i be getting tired of he always bring up his stats w/o Odell last year…. LOOK AT HES STATS THIS YEAR…. WITH AND WITHOUT ODELL!!!!!! AND IM A BROWNS FAN…. HE GOTTA GO…..
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Shannon sharp you are a racist
Skip talks about that 11 game stretch for baker like he does that one game Ben Simmons played against the jazz lol
Exactly 😂😂😂
Get you a girl that defends you like Skip does KD, Baker, and Tom.
Its like that stretch when Tebow took Denver to playoffs and beat the Steelers
Weird how he’s only “knocking on wood” for players he doesn’t like. Never once for baker brady or Tebow
Agreed 👍 and I'm tired of hearing about the 11 games!! 🙄
Shay Sharpe: “he might be Johnny Manziel with less demons”😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂💀💀💀
10000% facts
I've heard the 11 games story so many times that late in my life, in a senior home when I am on my final brain cell, "baker went on a 11 game streak and was the 4th best quarterback in those 11 games" is all I will be able to say until I finally die
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😭😂😭😭😂😭
I'm a huge Baker fan but that's hilarious
Lmao 😂😂😂
Bro said his final brain cell ☠️😂
"He made enough money to be a franchise owner of a fast food chain" 😂😂
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
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You mad you racist
He’s made like 40 million tho more than most people will ever make
The Baker Mayfield debates have been gold lately 😂😂
Unc on fire 🔥 🔥🔥 Not letting Skip away with anything
I look forward to them
I Haven't been watching NFL due 49ers not doing good this season. But don't the browns have Andy Dolton? Why don't they use him he is a good QB.
@@omarmoran3097 Andy dalton is in Chicago lol
🤣🤣🤣 be looking forward to the Baker Roast Shows
For someone that doesn't like talking about the game Odell got hurt, he sure does mention it EVERY single Baker segment
it's his job
@@wastedbread8036 It’s beating a dead horse at this point. Skip just needs to own up and admit he’s wrong, he’ll never do it though.
I'M KNOCKING ON WOOD. ALWAYS SAYING 1ST-- I HATE TALKING ABOUT IT, BUT YOU KNOW THE REST......🥱
"He might be Jonny Manzel with less demons." Excellent quote Shannon.
“He ain’t no gamer stop saying that” unk got me weak😂😂
he had dying on dat part Unk a fool fasho😂😂😂
Shannon is killing me on this one😂
"Just because it's gourmet doesn't mean it tastes good"
As a chef, I can definitely attest to this being 100% fact
Spot on Shannon. They do the same thing with Trevor Lawrence and every single #1 overall pick.. it’s always the organization/coach/other players fault never theirs
They never make excuses for black QBs.
Just like I'm stunned how Broncos Country keeps making every excuse other than Drew lock sucks 🤣
Trevor Lawrence got drafted by jags did you really think he would have a great season . Trevor Lawrence wont be good in till jags get better coaches .
Unk said he could be the owner of a fast food franchise but he's not a franchise QB 😂🤣😂
Let’s not forget that Cleveland had a top notch running game last year. I’m sure that didn’t help him at all
That’s exactly why the team had success. They played perfect AFC North football. Run hard, play good defense and win in the trenches. They didn’t win because of Baker
So basically Skip Bayless his argument is hey he's still better than Sam darnold so he's not a bust Sam darnold is utterly horrible so that's not a good comparison to be better then tbh
Skip gotta knock on wood every time he speaks on Odell because he has to talk about the last 11 games last year 😭😭 leave Odell alone skip 🤣
Skip loves using the 11 games from last year. He loves using old stats to make a point for today. He did the same thing with Tebow. Every argument he would bring up that Tebow threw for 316 yards in a playoff game against the Steelers. 🤦🏾♂️
Took a 1-4 team won division and won a playoff game 😂😂
I honestly think this is how skip keeps his job by saying the total opposite.
Hahaha it's entertaining tho I'm not going to lie 🤣😂😂
@@omarmoran3097 but it's not true what he's saying and he knows that.
@@FuzzyStayBuzzin183 Just like all of the mainstream media ;)
@@FuzzyStayBuzzin183 Skip job isn’t to tell the truth, he’s paid to entertain
He should’ve got surgery wayyyy earlier in the season so he could’ve already Been rehabbing. It’s not like him vs case keenum is that much of a drop off
At this point case Keenum would've done a better job than Baker. He's so bad😂😂.
I believe Baker knew that too, and he was trying to earn a big payday. He played himself in the end
Atleast Shannon knows the hard work it takes to get drafted in a professional league, and what most athletes have to overcome, then to call somebody a Bust. It seems like it comes out so easy for the ones who never came close to putting on a pro jersey in any sport. Stephen. A Smith
Agreed these spots talk people are real disrespectful to the players especially the ones the claim they don’t know
Skip Bayless: Baker Mayfield will be a franchise QB for the browns and 3 other franchises
Shanon Sharpe: Baker Mayfield will be the owner of a fast-food franchise that's about it
😂 priceless
“He might be Johnny Manziel with less demons.” -Shannon Sharpe
Racist shannon sharp. Yes black people are racist to. Look at Ryan Clark on ESPN. He is a real true a black racist like shannon sharp.
Please never let this show end 🤣🤣
I hope this duo never ends
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"Johnny manziel with less demons" lol
If I'm not mistaken Baker Mayfield shoulder was fine in 2018 an 2019!
2019 he had one less interception then touchdowns and he had about 20 something touchdowns which means he had about 20 something interceptions
Same thing in 2018 had about 20 touchdowns an about 16 or 17 interceptions he had one good year last year which is fool's gold
You can't ignore the large sample size for one stretch of 11 games
Well said. As a Steelers fan and life long Pittsburgh resident, wee hope Baker stays w the Browns! Because that means they'll remain TERRIBLE! Yes they beat us last year in the playoffs, but we turned the ball over 6x in the game and 5x In the 1st half. Ben still hung over 500 yds passing on them
His shoulder was also fine when they played the Chiefs in the Divisional round of the playoffs...when Pat Mahomes got knocked out of the game and Baker couldn't outplay the Chiefs backup QB to win that playoff game🤣
@@kidlightning1736 LMAO Baker played well that game try again.must not remember the helmet to helmet hit against Peoples on a dime from Baker. Mahomes only missed 2 drives. Stop talking out your a**. Henne didn't score a point.
Baker broke the rookie TD record 2018 his rookie season with 26 tds in just 14 games.
@@jfg1104 and the game ended with Big Ben and his lady friend crying on the bench together LMAO Baker gets another chance just for that 🤣🤣🤣
Skip needs to understand last year doesn't matter. Its always about what you're doing now.
Just another racist black person on here against Baker Mayfield is the great white hope for the browns
@@redwinstead7873: I'm not black and I'm saying facts. Jerry Rice once said you are as good as your last game.
You have to prove yourself year in and year out.
@@J-luna Baker Mayfield is the great white hope for the browns. Not hue j.
In the words of Janet Jackson what have you done for me lately
@@redwinstead7873 wait what? LMAO you sound pretty racist. You need a great white hope? LOL
Skip is so delusional on defending baker mayfield he said “he beat the Texans who have been really good this year they cause a lot of people problems” LMAO
im a texans fan man wtf is skip smoking man our d still awful
“Franchise owner of a fast food chain” 😂😂😂😂
Just as a side note I’m glad that OBJ is doing well with the Rams. Not taking a shot at Baker, I’m just glad OBJ has had success especially after seeing the way AB acted. 🙌🙌
Baker's team was ridiculously stacked. How he misses the playoffs is beyond me.
Baker play, and covid...
It’s Odell’s fault
Johnny manziel with less demons 😂😂😂
He sound dumb af. He has no argument points for that lmao.
😂
As if that’s a great comparison
I think they was trying to re - live the Minnesota miracle with case keenum and Kevin stefanski expect case wasn’t on the field lol
I’m a Browns fan - I’m willing to give him 1 more year. Healthy. That’s it.
Thank you Shannon 😔, you understand the cleveland fan mentality!
Skip been using that same 11 games in his debate this whole season.
Baker gives the Browns the same play Johnny Manziel gave, only Baker does it sober, which makes it worse
Shannon is right, if you’re gonna give Baker damn near 100% of the wins, he should get most if not all the blame for the losses
That bit about the fast food chain killed me 🤣
I wonder what the excuse is going to be next year after it's a full season of OBJ being gone and Cleveland and Baker Mayfield continue the go the same route is it still going to be Odell Beckham Juniors fault even a year later after he's been gone and they get a fresh start with a fresh training camp
Obj was never the problem
Skip Bayless can never just stick to present time he always has to bring up last year, like bro just admit it he’s having a bad year this year the question is not about last year😂😂😂😂😂
Skip almost religiously brings up those 11 games from last season every single day 😂😂😂
If your healthy enough to be out on the field, your healthy enough to play good football. Simple as that.
Baker Mayfield is like the new Tim tebow to Skip Bayless !
always talking about a short period of game stretchs as the end-all be-all and ignoring everything else outside of it!
Just another racist. Against Baker Mayfield is the great white hope for the browns
Skip knows damn well Baker is going to continue to get more opportunities in the NFL based on things that have nothing to do with his play on the field. But he knows Shannon doesn’t want to go down that road on air if he doesn’t have to, so he keeps pushing it to make it seem like he’s winning the argument. Shannon has provided more than enough evidence otherwise why Baker just ain’t it
Nobody saying baker can’t get another job he just not a franchise qb
@@Skinner90210 at the end Skip tried to get him to bet that Baker would never start another game in the NFL, like c’mon now.
Skip always has to recap that one season with Baker when Odell got hurt
I feel like I agree that Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold are the same both can’t elevate the team around them both look like average quarterbacks
I think Baker has been in a better situation all career than Darnold has been at both teams. I think a Darnold led Brown’s would have been better than a Baker led Browns
"This" season. Before watching the video I bet Skip brings up those 11 games.
Baker not even making some of the excuses Skip making
GOTTA give Skip credit.....He doesn't go back on his word.....Never waffles on his comments. That is what a man does! He truly stands by his opinion(s). Love him or Hate him....he gives it to you with consistency.
Consistently wrong and rarely to never admits it.
So, there is no such thing as learning from your mistakes?
Skip always talking about the past when it comes to his favorite players
Tebow, RG3, Manziel, and now possibly Mayfield. Who was the last QB Skip picked before the draft that succeeded?
“He is who we thought he was”
This should be good.
Shannon is 1000% accurate
I hope to God that Deshaun Watson’s issues don’t turn out to be true, because if he escapes that this off-season…..Cleveland better make that call.
He will not be going to Cleveland lol they don’t have the picks to pick him up anyways
Yall remember when people criticized TO for playing in the SUPER BOWL for a broken leg, but I haven't heard anyone criticize Baker for playing with a broken shoulder that hindered his team..
I just noticed skip says he doesn't like to talk about odell injury but never fails to bring it up when there's a Baker topic.
I feel like Skip Bayless is forgetting the Green Bay game somehow someway he tries to use that to further his argument like bro he threw 4 picks an was the reason they lost
Any time they've done good it's been because Nick chubb's not Baker Mayfield
4 int's Skip gave him s B 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I remember aaron Donald was hurt last playoffs and Skip said he’s not that guy and we’re talking about a 3 time DPOY
Shannon you are legend. Skip well done in bringing him in.
If I'm a Browns player or fan, I feel absolutely robbed by a Selfish Baker Mayfield who played hurt for next years contract, and the Brown's management for pushing it.
100%
I'm a Steelers fan, but I agree with you because the same thing happened in Pittsburgh w/Ben..Except for the next contract part
@@James-yf7vy to be fair to the Steelers front office, Mason and Haskins ain't it. If you guys had Keenum, Huntley, or Minshew as a backup... maybe I'd bench Ben. Ben is selling merchandise for you guys like crazy. You atleast have the farewell tour.
Skip out of excuses: remember that 11 game stretch baker mayfield had last year 😭
Skip love him some Pro Football Focus 😂🥱
U only get credit playing through injuries if the team is successful and u are not a liability factos!
When talking about Baker now, skip goes through his whole career.
The funny thing is he does this on damn near every single topic. It’s so annoying lol
92 touchdowns to 56 ints In 4 years is trash. Pretty sure Trubiski was a little better
That's average
But trash for a #1 pick tho
Skip keeps trying to get Shannon to say he’s trash. Shannon never said that, he’s just saying that instead of looking at just his rookie season and 11 games last year to say he’s great like Skip, he’s taking that along with his ENTIRE career and just saying he’s average, not trash but average. Just because your not great doesn’t mean your bad.
I love that skip takes things to the absolute extreme. Say hes a bust bet that he'll never be a starter again like bro come on now, for a first overall pick yeah hes a bust of coarse he'll be a starter again there are some teams that need an average qb
Hey everyone I hope ur doing great n continuing to believe in yourself!!!
Much Love n peace💯
Skip: he’s been hurt
Shannon: he ain’t been hurt… “he’s hurt your feelings” lol 😂
Browns drafting Top WR in 1st, top 5 WR in 2nd, and great blocking TE in 3rd
Skip is brutally honest with his opinion
I’m sure most qbs in the league are banged up it’s football baker is just a bum
Hes average
I use the “mm, hmm, mmm” when arguing with my wife. Let me tell you there’s some magic to that.
Someone else just mentioned it, Skip is always “knocking on wood” for the players he doesn’t like, or is about to speak negatively on. He doesn’t do that with TB12, Baker, KD, etc….his faves.
Case keenum could of been a good starter
As a Browns fan, Baker being injured was probably the worst thing that could have happened. Watching the team was so frustrating, cuz i have no idea how much of Bakers problems were him bring too hurt to play, and how much of it was Baker just not being good. Had the season played out exactly the same, but Baker was never injured, it would be better cuz then we’d at least know Baker is the problem, but as of now, we’re got no clue. So infuriating man.
He’s pretty average.
Shannon, he IS, Johnny Manzell #2 and was before the Browns ever drafted him. You ARE 1,000% right about Baker!!
Pittsburgh rested there starters for us to even get in last year, and then they gave us the ball 73 times in the first 5 minutes and then Baker was outplayed by Chad Henne in the second half of the chiefs game. He’s gone, stefanski and berry don’t like him, they didn’t draft him, they’ll trade for Cousins, Ryan, or bring back Cribbs to run wildcat lmao
Thank you Shannon well said...
It’s funny how Skip constantly talks about those 11 games in ‘20 but if I’m not mistaken Baker has the same group this year when the Browns cut OBJ and they’re eliminated from the playoffs
johnny manziel with less demons😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Three points:
1) Baker was throwing to the same guys this year as he did those last 11 games of 2020. But Skip thinks they’re bums now.
2) The Steelers team that Cleveland beat in the playoffs last year wasn’t “riding high”. They were lucky to get to 11-0, got exposed and played terribly down the stretch. Plus 100 turnovers in that game didn’t hurt either.
3) Baker has (arguably) the best RB combo in the entire league, as well as (when healthy) a top tier O-line. If Skip seriously thinks that Baker goes to Houston and comes alive, he really does need a new TV.
The most telling stat Monday was that he became 0-25 in games the browns have been down 8pts or more. Sheesh.
My girlfriend won’t even defend me the way Skip defends Baker Mayfield 🤣🤣🤷🏾♂️
At this point, I just completely fast forward through everything skip says on this topic. He’s collected a few cherry picked stats and just repeats it over and over. Professional analyst? He lies worse than a politician
He’s an entertainer
Shannon hit the nail on the head. Baker is just average
He’s just a guy
Johnny Manziel with less demons. Perfect
Skip did not expect that retort from Shannon with respect to saying something was wrong with Mahomes lol
Shannon needs to be in the Hall of Fame of facial expressions
Haven't even started video yet but I know "Pro football focus" is in here 😂😂🔜
I mean sharp has a point🤷🏽♂️ Sam and Baker haven't done anything so they kinda the same
Baker ror Jimmy ???? PERFECT !!!!!!! Stefanski will love Jimmy & Baker's a Steve Young guy.
Skip was steady, putting Baker against Sam, and today, 2024, Sam is playing great for the Vikings!
I love skip and all his loyalty…. If he love you he’ll defend you to the end… but i be getting tired of he always bring up his stats w/o Odell last year…. LOOK AT HES STATS THIS YEAR…. WITH AND WITHOUT ODELL!!!!!! AND IM A BROWNS FAN…. HE GOTTA GO…..
Browns organization should've told Baker to sit down since he was that hurt they were supposed to step in and save their QB smh
omg shannon "Baker can be the fanchise owner for a fast food chain" lmao
I swear. Skip is going to be talking about that stretch of 11 games by Baker Mayfield on his deathbed 😂😂
“He ain’t no gamer stop saying that”🤣🤣🤣
I was with Shannon the entire video……right up until the last sentence 😂😂
2nd year in a row somebody important on the browns offense got hurt trying to make a tackle after an interception.