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Great review and super honest. I personally chose the cheaper brushed version to put in my own electronics. Decided on Surpass Hobby Rocket 3670 2260kv, matching 100A ESC. 28 tooth pinion. DS3218 pro servo and Dumbo RC X6FG receiver, carbon fibre chassis brace. I'm a basher not a racer or speeder. Reckon this setup is working pretty well.
I have 104001 running 29t motor gear running 3s brushless set up the best mod I did was put the tires from my slash 4x4 vxl on this buggy it's a completely different car absolutely an animal try it you won't be disappointed
I have several of these buggies and I have converted some of them to brushless. Most of my cars and trucks I keep stock like you said just to have fun with them. Nice job Dave, have a great weekend.
I know wltoys has a v2 esc that is rated for 60a. I heard that the 45a esc is rated only for 2s. If I would get this rc buggy… I would replace the standard esc for the v2 esc.
Awesome overview and demo of this buggy. Seems to be pretty good. Of course getting up into the 1/10 the price is getting up there a bit. IMO nothing what I see says to me this is a must have for my collection. I'd be more excited if they tried a sand buggy version of this scale like they did with the 1/12. Any way still cool stuff. Hope you had a great weekend. cheers Dave!
Hey Mike thanks very much for watching brother and yep I have to agree about the price, I think it should be under the $200 price tag to be fair. Considering last year's brushed model is $100 less as a RTR package and the roller is even cheaper from makerfire at $115 you can buy the brushless parts and do it yourself. Have a good week ahead my friend 👍
Excellent review. Really concise and professional. I think that a thorough check, tighten and oil is necessary with any of these cheaper RC's. (good practice for any TBH) Looks fantastic. Cheers. Subbed 😎
I bought the brushed version and like a crazy person I put like 600$ into it. full electronics upgrades, new motor, new tires, custom made upper chassis brace, 3s batteries and upgrades my lipo charger. I knew they were going to upgrade this car eventually but When I first saw this I was a little disheartened because i thought if I had waited a while longer I could have bought this new version. And don’t get me wrong it’s nice and I love the colors. But I feel like it should be performing better than it is…. So now I am kinda happy I went my route cause all my upgrades are legitimate hobby wing. And don’t t me wrong the budget stuff is nice for what it costs. But my hobbywing stuff is probably the equivalent to and in some area slightly better than what the new one has in it except it cost me a lot more. But the results I’m seeing Vs the budget stuff they put into the new one is significantly different. My car goes about 75-80 kph or 45-50 mph. Have a 25kg servo, nice tires similar to the new v2 of the 144001. Nice nobby tread, not the carpet tires, that’s one thing I did not care for on the 104001 was those tires and I’ve heard a ton of complaints about them and they did the same exact ones on this new brushless version so they obviously didn’t listen to the fans this time or were too Chinsey to upgrade. In the end after seeing your video I’m kinda glad I went my route. I had to invest a lot but I also have a night and day difference in performance and quality products that will last the life of the car. Im glad they upgraded the wrench to metal and put an antenna in it but the same 80g metAl spur gear use ridiculous they should never had done it in the first place. Love your channel. Keep up the good work. A fan here in America.
@@PERTHWESTOZRC If you change that ESC to the $21 or 60 amp Goolrc black and orange esc .... it handles 4s and would push this to 90 mph easy with that same motor and gear
How do you extend the antenna and manage to get the battery to stay in the compartment? I'm having trouble with these short wires getting it to stay connected
update: came in the mail and it is cool; TBH if your wanting to graduate from 1/16 or 1/18 scale to 1/10 brushless this is a great intro car; for those with more experience you prob will not like it; it's fast on 2s but not super fast(i believe due to the weight) but on 3s it moves!!!
Roller version 115$ , motor+esc combo 45$ ( 3S capable ) , Servo 10-15$ , Dumborc 40$ = 215$ and you get a much better suited car . For this one to be worth it is should not be more than 180$.
@PERTH WEST OZ RC is wltoys 124017 v2 easy to maintain, do i have to do anything extra after opening the box, does it have any cogging issues or any other?
Yes it's easy to maintain, I suggest check over the rc car and grease the diffs especially, check my 124019 grease service video on that I made early last year, also there should be no cogging on any of the V2 models
Yep with these wltoys cars it is necessary as they do not put much in them at all, have a look through my old videos I have a playlist on the wltoys cars and how to grease the diffs etc
one more question, can you tell which car is better wltoys 124017 or a959-b. i am new in hobby and don't want much tension. which car is easy to maintain?
I own both and I would say the 124017 is by far the better rc buggy as it is more stable being the long wheelbase and larger scale size, plus it's brushless
@@PERTHWESTOZRC is wltoys 124017 v2 easy to maintain, do i have to do anything extra after opening the box, does it have any cogging issues or any other?
Nice review as always! But for $220 I don’t think I would buy this full price. It’s just not durable enough or quick enough. Upgrading it with LC 10B5 parts would help but then you’re just adding to the price. I think the WLToys 1/10 roller is the best value for speed run enthusiasts
Yeah exactly I think if it came in at under $200 the price would be more appropriate for this model, and you can get a roller of the 104001 from makerfire for $115 atm. cheers for watching Jeff 🍻
@@PERTHWESTOZRCafter about a month and a bit of battling with 5+ companies I finally found one that will arrive this week and I will start another youtube channel for rc cars have you got any tips?
I really like the body shell Dave! The colors green and purple really go well together. I like it better than the original body shell. The brushless system seems to go pretty good. It definitely A lot of bite on off road surfaces! I can’t believe you actually found that link!😝Looks like it ramps really well! As always Dave, great review and video ! Cheers brother🍻✌🏻😃
I just bought this car for my son. I am About to purchase the same 3s lipo you have. Is it safe to run this battery on this car without the esc or motor getting damaged?
Damn bro this thing looks so dope 💪🏾 😍 tottaly joker style painting you know I love that 💥😜 Glad you got one dave 😱🙌🏽 THX for the review and stay safe ✌️🏽 😎 🏄🏽
nice buggy they could've gone for a slightly beefier esc though considering the car is going to be heavier in a larger scale and the fact those blue esc's come in various amperages and not much more than a quid/dollar between the prices
For sure compared to the brushed version that was a total disappointment this one is a step forward, but even if they converted, it's basically the same crap under a different coloured hood. The gearing is terrible, the spur gear is tall limiting pretty much the speed, and the overall quality of the components it's pretty cheap. Chassis flexing, drivetrain extremely weak and gear bevels got flattened as it was butter. I was totally impressed positively by the new 144010 even if it's a quite different car, but on this one I would definitely pass. In my opinion the price is not justified considering the mediocre performances and the overall quality. By the way, the video was plenty descriptive and complete, well done 👍
Yes the 144010 really impressed me as well, Wltoys is on a winner with that one for sure, it's fast out of the box and a fun 14th scale buggy for sure, thanks for watching bro 👍
My impression is that the 1/10 scale from wltoys is not as impressive as the 124017. I ran the 124017 on 3s and it is ripping. Even with road tires on road it was impressing. This car looks decent performance but not as impressive as the smaller one.
I converted the 01 to where it's much faster than this, using cheap-o gool RC parts. I think I'll try to break that 100 mile an hour from now . If the gears can handle it because I'm only going to use cheap Chinese parts. 3674 motor 3000 KV. 27T pinion. 4S. I hope the diffs and the cups can handle it
I just dont get It, really? Only a 45a Esc? I mean the 124016 has a 60a Esc, and what I dont really get Is that even that one falls short!! The 2845 4300kv on the 124016 needs 66a at full load, but this one Is even worse, that 3650 4500kv should be around 90a if not more AND they are using half of that, however It seems to work just fine but isnt the rule on this to use a higher capacity esc than the motor requires? I wonder what It would do with a 120a Esc 🤔
Why is every RC Car enthusiast judging a car on Speed? A Big whoop about Speed.. I'm more Interested in RC Life and durability.. sorry I'm an old 46yo I complain alot 😂 Can it handle me and my daughter?
As far as speed, i think most people that like and own these WLtoys buggies especially these 1/10 scale would have liked a bit more performance on the top end speed being that it's brushless now and the price point. Overall It does perform well all around and it has great torque for off road bashing as you can see from my tests, i just think if it would be even just under $200US that would be more an appropriate price for this one. It has it's place in the market though and no doubt there will be flash sales of this model when it has aged a bit. Thanks for watching Chris and have a good weekend 👍
@@PERTHWESTOZRC basically just guessed based on 50% extra voltage(×3s/2s) usually means 50% extra rpm and 50% extra speed. However in reality there's so many opposing forces that reduce the real top speed compared to the theoretical or no load bench test number especially the faster you go the higher the drag especially on buggies the rear wing can make a big difference as well as the higher the motor kV the less efficient its going to be when approcinng its rpm limit such as this 4300kv motor.
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I got the new one with the brushless motor is there a newer one than that
This is definitely the coolest wl toys buggy. I absolutely love the paint scheme. Reminds me of the early 90’s buggies in RC car action..
Great review and super honest. I personally chose the cheaper brushed version to put in my own electronics. Decided on Surpass Hobby Rocket 3670 2260kv, matching 100A ESC. 28 tooth pinion. DS3218 pro servo and Dumbo RC X6FG receiver, carbon fibre chassis brace. I'm a basher not a racer or speeder. Reckon this setup is working pretty well.
Yep don’t blame you going the brushed and installing your own electronics, thanks for watching and your comment and have a great weekend 👍
you are running it with the stock motor and esc that's why it running like that, if you upgrade the motor and esc and pinion gear it would do better
Yeah well this is a review so I am running it the way it is out the box, thanks for watching
I have 104001 running 29t motor gear running 3s brushless set up the best mod I did was put the tires from my slash 4x4 vxl on this buggy it's a completely different car absolutely an animal try it you won't be disappointed
I have several of these buggies and I have converted some of them to brushless. Most of my cars and trucks I keep stock like you said just to have fun with them. Nice job Dave, have a great weekend.
Thanks Gregory, have a great weekend brother
I know wltoys has a v2 esc that is rated for 60a. I heard that the 45a esc is rated only for 2s. If I would get this rc buggy… I would replace the standard esc for the v2 esc.
Awesome overview and demo of this buggy. Seems to be pretty good. Of course getting up into the 1/10 the price is getting up there a bit. IMO nothing what I see says to me this is a must have for my collection. I'd be more excited if they tried a sand buggy version of this scale like they did with the 1/12. Any way still cool stuff. Hope you had a great weekend. cheers Dave!
Hey Mike thanks very much for watching brother and yep I have to agree about the price, I think it should be under the $200 price tag to be fair. Considering last year's brushed model is $100 less as a RTR package and the roller is even cheaper from makerfire at $115 you can buy the brushless parts and do it yourself. Have a good week ahead my friend 👍
Excellent review. Really concise and professional. I think that a thorough check, tighten and oil is necessary with any of these cheaper RC's. (good practice for any TBH) Looks fantastic.
Cheers. Subbed 😎
Thanks mate appreciate you watching and yes a quick going over the whole RC including the diffs is definitely recommended on any RC out the box
I bought the brushed version and like a crazy person I put like 600$ into it. full electronics upgrades, new motor, new tires, custom made upper chassis brace, 3s batteries and upgrades my lipo charger. I knew they were going to upgrade this car eventually but When I first saw this I was a little disheartened because i thought if I had waited a while longer I could have bought this new version. And don’t get me wrong it’s nice and I love the colors. But I feel like it should be performing better than it is….
So now I am kinda happy I went my route cause all my upgrades are legitimate hobby wing. And don’t t me wrong the budget stuff is nice for what it costs. But my hobbywing stuff is probably the equivalent to and in some area slightly better than what the new one has in it except it cost me a lot more.
But the results I’m seeing Vs the budget stuff they put into the new one is significantly different. My car goes about 75-80 kph or 45-50 mph. Have a 25kg servo, nice tires similar to the new v2 of the 144001. Nice nobby tread, not the carpet tires, that’s one thing I did not care for on the 104001 was those tires and I’ve heard a ton of complaints about them and they did the same exact ones on this new brushless version so they obviously didn’t listen to the fans this time or were too Chinsey to upgrade.
In the end after seeing your video I’m kinda glad I went my route. I had to invest a lot but I also have a night and day difference in performance and quality products that will last the life of the car.
Im glad they upgraded the wrench to metal and put an antenna in it but the same 80g metAl spur gear use ridiculous they should never had done it in the first place.
Love your channel. Keep up the good work. A fan here in America.
Thanks for watching David, i agree i think performance wise it would have been great to see it go faster being brushless
All you gotta do is change the ESC to 80 amp or a 120 amp in this car would do 85 miles an hour
@@PERTHWESTOZRC If you change that ESC to the $21 or 60 amp Goolrc black and orange esc .... it handles 4s and would push this to 90 mph easy with that same motor and gear
I have some 4s capable ESC's I plan to try in later videos 👍
@@PERTHWESTOZRC why when I bought my v1 of the 124016 it came with a claimed 60 amp esc but this is a 45?
How do you extend the antenna and manage to get the battery to stay in the compartment? I'm having trouble with these short wires getting it to stay connected
Hii.... great video... if do you use a 60Amp ESC the speed in 3S will be higher???
I think so, I will be testing another esc in this car soon 👍 thanks for watching brother
I see nowadays that they are stretching the Ready-To-Run a little bit, it rather is "semi-kit final touches" before it can run.
Nice video and rc car Friend❤ by the price i prefer my Xstr Pro . Greetings
i have mine in the mail as we speak; I pulled the trigger on it as soon as bangood made it avail...can't wait!
Nice one mate, i'm sure you will enjoy it when it arrives.. have a good weekend and thanks for watching Patrick 🍻
@@PERTHWESTOZRC thanks for posting!!!
update: came in the mail and it is cool; TBH if your wanting to graduate from 1/16 or 1/18 scale to 1/10 brushless this is a great intro car; for those with more experience you prob will not like it; it's fast on 2s but not super fast(i believe due to the weight) but on 3s it moves!!!
Roller version 115$ , motor+esc combo 45$ ( 3S capable ) , Servo 10-15$ , Dumborc 40$ = 215$ and you get a much better suited car . For this one to be worth it is should not be more than 180$.
Yep I agree, price should be at least under $200, thanks for watching
@PERTH WEST OZ RC is wltoys 124017 v2 easy to maintain, do i have to do anything extra after opening the box, does it have any cogging issues or any other?
Yes it's easy to maintain, I suggest check over the rc car and grease the diffs especially, check my 124019 grease service video on that I made early last year, also there should be no cogging on any of the V2 models
@@PERTHWESTOZRC bro i don't even know how to do greasing, oiling, i am new to hobby, is it necessary to do those things straight out of box?
Yep with these wltoys cars it is necessary as they do not put much in them at all, have a look through my old videos I have a playlist on the wltoys cars and how to grease the diffs etc
Where to buy this ramp?
Have no idea, I bought this 2nd hand on marketplace
one more question, can you tell which car is better wltoys 124017 or a959-b. i am new in hobby and don't want much tension. which car is easy to maintain?
I own both and I would say the 124017 is by far the better rc buggy as it is more stable being the long wheelbase and larger scale size, plus it's brushless
@@PERTHWESTOZRC is wltoys 124017 v2 easy to maintain, do i have to do anything extra after opening the box, does it have any cogging issues or any other?
@@anngadjoshi4874 ver 2 has no cogging, but has a very small throttle delay, not a deal breaker. Crazy fast buggy.
Really well produced video! I agree, it was slower than expected and the price is higher than expected…..
Thanks for watching, appreciate you tuning in 👍
Nice review as always! But for $220 I don’t think I would buy this full price. It’s just not durable enough or quick enough. Upgrading it with LC 10B5 parts would help but then you’re just adding to the price. I think the WLToys 1/10 roller is the best value for speed run enthusiasts
Yeah exactly I think if it came in at under $200 the price would be more appropriate for this model, and you can get a roller of the 104001 from makerfire for $115 atm. cheers for watching Jeff 🍻
Awesome video and review I got one on the way makerfire always seems to be higher then banggood
Thanks for watching brother, enjoy it when it arrives 👍
You can pick them up now for around 180-190USD or 130-140GBP
Yeah well they are a couple years old now so it's expected I guess
@@PERTHWESTOZRCafter about a month and a bit of battling with 5+ companies I finally found one that will arrive this week and I will start another youtube channel for rc cars have you got any tips?
I really like the body shell Dave! The colors green and purple really go well together. I like it better than the original body shell. The brushless system seems to go pretty good. It definitely A lot of bite on off road surfaces! I can’t believe you actually found that link!😝Looks like it ramps really well! As always Dave, great review and video ! Cheers brother🍻✌🏻😃
I just bought this car for my son. I am
About to purchase the same 3s lipo you have. Is it safe to run this battery on this car without the esc or motor getting damaged?
yes it is safe running the 3s with the esc provided, i had no issues at all and ran it multiple times on 3s lipo, thanks for watching Jacka 👍
Damn bro this thing looks so dope 💪🏾 😍 tottaly joker style painting you know I love that 💥😜
Glad you got one dave 😱🙌🏽
THX for the review and stay safe ✌️🏽 😎 🏄🏽
Cheers brother, have a great weekend also 👍🍻
nice buggy they could've gone for a slightly beefier esc though considering the car is going to be heavier in a larger scale and the fact those blue esc's come in various amperages and not much more than a quid/dollar between the prices
Yes i think a 120A ESC would have been a much better choice given the price point, thanks for watching David 👍
Pretty cool Looks much better than the brushed version. 👍
I think so too, thanks for watching Erric 👍
Blimey! Seems very powerful at this level. And strong. Worth looking in to. 😀
Thanks for watching Mat 👍
For sure compared to the brushed version that was a total disappointment this one is a step forward, but even if they converted, it's basically the same crap under a different coloured hood.
The gearing is terrible, the spur gear is tall limiting pretty much the speed, and the overall quality of the components it's pretty cheap. Chassis flexing, drivetrain extremely weak and gear bevels got flattened as it was butter.
I was totally impressed positively by the new 144010 even if it's a quite different car, but on this one I would definitely pass.
In my opinion the price is not justified considering the mediocre performances and the overall quality. By the way, the video was plenty descriptive and complete, well done 👍
Yes the 144010 really impressed me as well, Wltoys is on a winner with that one for sure, it's fast out of the box and a fun 14th scale buggy for sure, thanks for watching bro 👍
Great look at this one Dave. I thought overall it performed good 👍
Cheers for watching Dan, yeah overall it performs well just like the original 👍
Pretty nice, I wish they would make a tough roller.
WEll there is the 104001 as an option from Makerfire, cheers for watching James 🍻
since you had it what is your over all opinion
My impression is that the 1/10 scale from wltoys is not as impressive as the 124017. I ran the 124017 on 3s and it is ripping. Even with road tires on road it was impressing. This car looks decent performance but not as impressive as the smaller one.
Yeah the smaller scale brushless ones do out perform this new one, thanks for watching
I converted the 01 to where it's much faster than this, using cheap-o gool RC parts. I think I'll try to break that 100 mile an hour from now . If the gears can handle it because I'm only going to use cheap Chinese parts. 3674 motor 3000 KV. 27T pinion. 4S. I hope the diffs and the cups can handle it
Yeah I converted my 001 last year to brushless using a cheap setup, I run 4s on it using the stock gearing 👍
@@PERTHWESTOZRC sweet
Delay problemas??
Just like the other models, I show it in this video
A VIOLENT 39 mph is my guess on 2S.
Thanks for watching Stephen 👍
@@PERTHWESTOZRC No problem. I'm jealous that your rc season is year long unlike here in Canada. 🍁 That is the best visually looking WLTOYS to date! 👍💖
What name is that app
Its called Power GNSS
I just dont get It, really? Only a 45a Esc? I mean the 124016 has a 60a Esc, and what I dont really get Is that even that one falls short!! The 2845 4300kv on the 124016 needs 66a at full load, but this one Is even worse, that 3650 4500kv should be around 90a if not more AND they are using half of that, however It seems to work just fine but isnt the rule on this to use a higher capacity esc than the motor requires? I wonder what It would do with a 120a Esc 🤔
VIOLENT!! 42mph
Very close 👍
Hey, I would like to know. Would you go for the wltoys 104002 or the wltoys 124017 or 124010?? Thanks.
Both are decent, all depends on what you prefer, if you prefer speed go the smaller 12th scale 124017
Really nice RC buggy fast also 👍🙏👍🙏Great review As well
Thanks Ray, have a good weekend bro 👍
🇮🇪 very good upload
Thanks John
Great video and review but the price is ludicrous, I can buy the version 1 and build it up for less than that. 👍🏻🍻
Yes indeed which i pointed out the options in my conclusions at the end of this video, thanks for watching Rob 🍻
I think 56 kph is more than enough ☺️ Good test btw
Thanks for watching brother 👍
Looks like 35 mph maybe?
I’m gonna say 55mph if it says 60mph on the box
My guess is 70kph. Still watching.. 😁
I was close! 😀
Great review Dave, as always. For the roller version, for electric components you "forgot" to mention BG 🤣🤭
Good stuff mate! 🍻🇦🇺
You were close bro haha, and yeah you knew what i was on about with the forgetting to mention LOL
Why is every RC Car enthusiast judging a car on Speed? A Big whoop about Speed.. I'm more Interested in RC Life and durability.. sorry I'm an old 46yo I complain alot 😂 Can it handle me and my daughter?
As far as speed, i think most people that like and own these WLtoys buggies especially these 1/10 scale would have liked a bit more performance on the top end speed being that it's brushless now and the price point. Overall It does perform well all around and it has great torque for off road bashing as you can see from my tests, i just think if it would be even just under $200US that would be more an appropriate price for this one. It has it's place in the market though and no doubt there will be flash sales of this model when it has aged a bit. Thanks for watching Chris and have a good weekend 👍
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45mph is my guess 🤔
Well, I wasn't far off 🤣
@X F you were very close mate haha
Kmh not mph sorry my bad
84k/h
That would've been good, cheers for watching Andrew 👍
@@PERTHWESTOZRC basically just guessed based on 50% extra voltage(×3s/2s) usually means 50% extra rpm and 50% extra speed.
However in reality there's so many opposing forces that reduce the real top speed compared to the theoretical or no load bench test number especially the faster you go the higher the drag especially on buggies the rear wing can make a big difference as well as the higher the motor kV the less efficient its going to be when approcinng its rpm limit such as this 4300kv motor.
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edit: i was close
Yep pretty close 👍 thanks for watching
WAY overpriced!!!!!!!!!!! Needs to be about 150 -180. US
Not fast enough for the money people tend to over look if you put different body mounts an side panels..... voila u have 104072