The real bottleneck now seems to be the Encoded Loop, which is funny as the day after this patch dropped they started an Encoded material Community Goal. EDIT: Follow-up video: ruclips.net/video/4ktgw9p1HHI/видео.html
@@InferAGoodTime can confirm Jameson crash site has a few more comm beacons, but it isn’t as impressive as the HGE buff. But you can almost fill up on G4 & G5 encryption files in one trip. I wish they dropped other categories of encoded, but alas.
For me the bottleneck was already Encoded before the patch, and it seems that won't change in this patch, while they seem to have removed the need to relog even for Jameson's Crash Site, since you probably still only get 1 type of G5, you'd still have to make a bunch of trips to the mats trader to fill up, so Mission might be a more engaging way to get those now at least, I wish they had buffed the encoded emission signals to give more than 3 encoded mats of one type too and Ship and wake scanning should drop them way more often than they do, as technically that's supposed to be the normal way to get the wake scans and shield data encoded types...
Returning player after 5yr or so and I am glad I just found your channel. I am going to go watch some of your previous vids but if you are taking requests or suggestions on content I would love an Odyssey guide for 2024. Every thing I look up the video for it is years old and I don’t know if it’s still good or not and then I keep scrolling to try to find something more recent. Keep up the great work, I really like your format and presentation and your personality. Nope, not trying to date ya but trying to point out how this one video has inspired me to play more ED. lol. Take care brother!
Finally, the eternal grind is over. One of the best changes in ED during my adventure with the game, along with SCO FSD. I really like where this is all going. PS. Props for Deus Ex music in the background! :D
Dude, this SCO FSD is the shit. I B-lined for the bubble and swapped all my ships out for this drive. Supercruise is freaking fun as hell now. As mainly an explorer / exobiologist, I no longer dread any distance over 10k Ls. Now it's a skill game to see how well I can time stopping the boost to not overshoot the target. o7
Still took an hour+ of jumping around and scanning nav beacons but I finally, FINALLY capped my Pharmaceutical Isolators last night from a single High Grade Emission. Felt SO NICE. I quit Elite for 2+ years because of how atrocious gathering Engineering materials was. I will never forgive FDEV for taking so goddamn long to make this needed change, but at least it happened. EDIT: Oh and since it's been a while, not sure if it has always been this way, but the system state where I found mine was Outbreak and the HGE state was Expansion. I decided to check it out anyway. Surprisingly, it had Pharmaceutical Isolators! So I guess check the HGE no matter what "state" it is in.
Given that these changes are the ONLY reason I have reinstalled the game, I hope they stick around. If not, there are plenty of other games that will actually let me play them without hiding content behind days of wasted time for no reason.
That was a relief, I left the game serval years ago and just recently decided to come back to it. I haven’t engineered a lot yet before I left so I been dedicated myself to unlocking engineers and gathering materials. I wasn’t sure if I’m able to keep playing before my interest ran out because without engineering most of the major game loop seems out of my reach.
There are still some modual's that require up to six roll's, such as sensor's. Perhap's I'm incorrect, but the timer's envolved when doing HGE hunting, can not only end prior to one being able to get to the site, it also stop's when one get's there, but should one get there, though the timer will actually quit, meaning if you don't pick any up and leave, it's no longer available unless one relog's all the way to desktop. Should you stay and gather, the various material's also stay until you've either collected them all or leave. Meaning one only has to actuall finish the drop into the instance prior to the time actually timeing out. Once in your in and the material's stay until gathered or you leave. Though I for some 9,000 hour's have only ever played in solo, I can't speak for anything realated to playing in open. Last night for instanced needing some material's had but 4 minute's on the timer, watching the timer vs the clock when I dropped into the site from super to witch space. As you shown there were a vast and numerious amounts of material's. I filled my compartment, and there still beiing some left. Had to go potty; Leaving the area and doing what nature insisted I do, finishing and returning to the game where as I was still in the instance, those material's I hadn't gathered because I was full, were still availalble some ten minute's after I was gone and then returned. Though my limpet's had expired, the mat's were still there.
I recommend using the multi limpet controllers. Universal is size 7 and gives you 8 collector limpets, Operations is size 3 and gives you 4. You can only have one, though. If you want more you'll have to mix in regular collector limpet controllers.
The Class 7 universal is hilariously heavy which is why I held back on putting it in the suggested Anaconda build, but if you're comfy with a few less LY for a few more limpets then go for it.
Heh, I see your style is to max out the jump ranges. My alt has a multipurpose anaconda with Universal A and it jumps about 40 ly, which is perfectly adequate for any activity inside the Bubble in my opinion. If I need to get myself somewhere fast, I use my exploration ships as shuttles, but generally I manage with 30 - 50 ly ships. I think the last time I checked the HGEs was in 35 ly Krait.
I highly doubt that AX combat is going away entirely as you said a few times. It wouldn't be the first game to do so, but ED has invested a lot of time and attention to the thargoid war and AX content, so it seems to me like it would be cutting off an appendage at this point to completely remove the AX content. More likely, they will move it out of the bubble or create another battle line as we push them back out of the system and destroy the last few titans. I'm sure it probably won't be as prevalent and in your face as it is now, but I think removing it would be insane considering the time and money invested.
My guess is that Cocijo isn't going anywhere. I think he's gonna jump around and threaten a different system every time it looks like we're gaining the upper hand on him. They'll use that to stretch out the thargoid combat for a while.
I randomly dropped into an HGE last night for funnsies and saw the literal forest of improvised components. It wasn't even that bad to collect them without a limpet controller in the python 2.
If memory serves, they are there but the low local population keeps them fairly rare. What's more, You cannot acquire imperial shielding or Core Dynamics Composites so Colonia engineering boils down to farming Proto-heat/radiolics from Boom systems and trading down, since I'm not sure Independent Systems will spawn HGE's without a modifying state. I always just stuff my pockets before hitting the highway...
Can confirm, 20 top grade raws for massacre mission rewards. Massacre missions are hugely buffed. The AFK rig is really delivering these last couple days.
Can you make money from collecting materials? I only just started playing a few weeks ago, and started trying to get parts for engineering. I'm having fun but also very confused! like all the time.
I don't think they made so much effort in the Tharg war just to abadon it. It sure will be kept in some way. The rule if thumb for G5 was 5 or 6 unless you wanted to waste materials to go from 98% to 100%.
I specific ships for each type of gathering, for high grade emissions? An asp scout, why an ascp scout? I've decided its the best one for the job, sure with this case might be some role playing involved but hey why not. Gonna hop in and check out the new material gathering tonight!
The real bottleneck now seems to be the Encoded Loop, which is funny as the day after this patch dropped they started an Encoded material Community Goal.
EDIT: Follow-up video: ruclips.net/video/4ktgw9p1HHI/видео.html
@@InferAGoodTime can confirm Jameson crash site has a few more comm beacons, but it isn’t as impressive as the HGE buff. But you can almost fill up on G4 & G5 encryption files in one trip. I wish they dropped other categories of encoded, but alas.
I just do a bunch of plantery scans for my data these days
For me the bottleneck was already Encoded before the patch, and it seems that won't change in this patch, while they seem to have removed the need to relog even for Jameson's Crash Site, since you probably still only get 1 type of G5, you'd still have to make a bunch of trips to the mats trader to fill up, so Mission might be a more engaging way to get those now at least, I wish they had buffed the encoded emission signals to give more than 3 encoded mats of one type too and Ship and wake scanning should drop them way more often than they do, as technically that's supposed to be the normal way to get the wake scans and shield data encoded types...
Returning player after 5yr or so and I am glad I just found your channel. I am going to go watch some of your previous vids but if you are taking requests or suggestions on content I would love an Odyssey guide for 2024. Every thing I look up the video for it is years old and I don’t know if it’s still good or not and then I keep scrolling to try to find something more recent. Keep up the great work, I really like your format and presentation and your personality. Nope, not trying to date ya but trying to point out how this one video has inspired me to play more ED. lol. Take care brother!
this is frickin awesome. suping up ships will be so much easier now, thanks for the visual examples!
Finally, the eternal grind is over. One of the best changes in ED during my adventure with the game, along with SCO FSD. I really like where this is all going. PS. Props for Deus Ex music in the background! :D
Dude, this SCO FSD is the shit. I B-lined for the bubble and swapped all my ships out for this drive. Supercruise is freaking fun as hell now. As mainly an explorer / exobiologist, I no longer dread any distance over 10k Ls. Now it's a skill game to see how well I can time stopping the boost to not overshoot the target.
o7
its the reason why i decided to finnaly do somehting with my 2nd alt acc
getting credits isnt a prblem. but the engineering grind was such a big wall
Still took an hour+ of jumping around and scanning nav beacons but I finally, FINALLY capped my Pharmaceutical Isolators last night from a single High Grade Emission. Felt SO NICE. I quit Elite for 2+ years because of how atrocious gathering Engineering materials was. I will never forgive FDEV for taking so goddamn long to make this needed change, but at least it happened.
EDIT: Oh and since it's been a while, not sure if it has always been this way, but the system state where I found mine was Outbreak and the HGE state was Expansion. I decided to check it out anyway. Surprisingly, it had Pharmaceutical Isolators! So I guess check the HGE no matter what "state" it is in.
Players are too happy about this, so I expect a hotfix to lower the number of mats.
Given that these changes are the ONLY reason I have reinstalled the game, I hope they stick around. If not, there are plenty of other games that will actually let me play them without hiding content behind days of wasted time for no reason.
These changes will stick around. In the dev stream they stated that they intended for there to be an over-abundance of mats.
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That was a relief, I left the game serval years ago and just recently decided to come back to it. I haven’t engineered a lot yet before I left so I been dedicated myself to unlocking engineers and gathering materials. I wasn’t sure if I’m able to keep playing before my interest ran out because without engineering most of the major game loop seems out of my reach.
Excellent content, thank you very much for taking the time. Very useful information.
I am about to put together Type-8 build for material gathering. The SCO helps zoom to HGEs while it can hold more limpet controllers than Python mk2
And it can handle that 7A universal limpet controller. Never really used that one until now, it’s pretty cool if you haven’t tried it
@@n00bfest32 hmm I didn't have a chance I think. What can it do?
@@XEyedN00b It can deploy All types of Limpets (fire group depending). 8 Active Limpets at the same time.
@@Tepnox oh damn that's really good
There are still some modual's that require up to six roll's, such as sensor's.
Perhap's I'm incorrect, but the timer's envolved when doing HGE hunting, can not only end prior to one being able to get to the site, it also stop's when one get's there, but should one get there, though the timer will actually quit, meaning if you don't pick any up and leave, it's no longer available unless one relog's all the way to desktop. Should you stay and gather, the various material's also stay until you've either collected them all or leave. Meaning one only has to actuall finish the drop into the instance prior to the time actually timeing out. Once in your in and the material's stay until gathered or you leave. Though I for some 9,000 hour's have only ever played in solo, I can't speak for anything realated to playing in open.
Last night for instanced needing some material's had but 4 minute's on the timer, watching the timer vs the clock when I dropped into the site from super to witch space. As you shown there were a vast and numerious amounts of material's. I filled my compartment, and there still beiing some left. Had to go potty; Leaving the area and doing what nature insisted I do, finishing and returning to the game where as I was still in the instance, those material's I hadn't gathered because I was full, were still availalble some ten minute's after I was gone and then returned. Though my limpet's had expired, the mat's were still there.
The crashed anaconda site is also buffed.. I topped up telerium storage in one session, it drops other raw materials like antimony and rhutenium
I recommend using the multi limpet controllers. Universal is size 7 and gives you 8 collector limpets, Operations is size 3 and gives you 4. You can only have one, though. If you want more you'll have to mix in regular collector limpet controllers.
The Class 7 universal is hilariously heavy which is why I held back on putting it in the suggested Anaconda build, but if you're comfy with a few less LY for a few more limpets then go for it.
Heh, I see your style is to max out the jump ranges. My alt has a multipurpose anaconda with Universal A and it jumps about 40 ly, which is perfectly adequate for any activity inside the Bubble in my opinion. If I need to get myself somewhere fast, I use my exploration ships as shuttles, but generally I manage with 30 - 50 ly ships. I think the last time I checked the HGEs was in 35 ly Krait.
I highly doubt that AX combat is going away entirely as you said a few times. It wouldn't be the first game to do so, but ED has invested a lot of time and attention to the thargoid war and AX content, so it seems to me like it would be cutting off an appendage at this point to completely remove the AX content.
More likely, they will move it out of the bubble or create another battle line as we push them back out of the system and destroy the last few titans. I'm sure it probably won't be as prevalent and in your face as it is now, but I think removing it would be insane considering the time and money invested.
My guess is that Cocijo isn't going anywhere. I think he's gonna jump around and threaten a different system every time it looks like we're gaining the upper hand on him. They'll use that to stretch out the thargoid combat for a while.
No VR in the on foot mode no more money ever.
I feel for you man. I posted your previous HGE vid on the squad's Discord but a few days before the Type 8 update...
I randomly dropped into an HGE last night for funnsies and saw the literal forest of improvised components. It wasn't even that bad to collect them without a limpet controller in the python 2.
thanks
Great video, as they all seem to be. I have posted this on my discord so I hope some of my Sqn members come and give it some love. o7
Nice video, thank you.
Carrier jump timers at 47 mins last night so I guess these changes are being well received 😊 Nom nom
AX has definitely become more accessible due to the chieftain prebuilt for people who don't mind spending on microtransactoins.
I've always used the Clipper for HGE hunting, it just works!!!
Y'all will appreciate a big collector controller now, especially.
RIP flipper, long live the flipper.
Take all the time you need, all things considered, health is much more important.
i think the new T8 will be the king for farming these materials cause of the low fuel consumption using SCO
Awesome!!
python 2 or type 8 with sco drive overcharge will get you to the HGE quickest
Honestly, I haven't run into any HGE signals out in the Colonia region yet. Only Encoded.
If memory serves, they are there but the low local population keeps them fairly rare. What's more, You cannot acquire imperial shielding or Core Dynamics Composites so Colonia engineering boils down to farming Proto-heat/radiolics from Boom systems and trading down, since I'm not sure Independent Systems will spawn HGE's without a modifying state.
I always just stuff my pockets before hitting the highway...
not a resident evil fan but i watched it for your style all the same!
The buffed HGE's are insane...it's now what it should have been from the beginning. I wonder if there was any buff to the raw mats collection?
You can get raw mats from mission rewards I think, haven't verified this myself yet though.
Can confirm, 20 top grade raws for massacre mission rewards. Massacre missions are hugely buffed. The AFK rig is really delivering these last couple days.
Can you make money from collecting materials? I only just started playing a few weeks ago, and started trying to get parts for engineering. I'm having fun but also very confused! like all the time.
I don't think they made so much effort in the Tharg war just to abadon it. It sure will be kept in some way.
The rule if thumb for G5 was 5 or 6 unless you wanted to waste materials to go from 98% to 100%.
I specific ships for each type of gathering, for high grade emissions? An asp scout, why an ascp scout? I've decided its the best one for the job, sure with this case might be some role playing involved but hey why not. Gonna hop in and check out the new material gathering tonight!
Now try to find military super capasitors, there still nowhere to be found
RNG is still a bitch!
If you can't find a specific type of materials, a material trader will help you.
Huge stacks of them for massacre mission rewards now. Up to 20. Have 20 in today's reward stack. FR and I'll share with you.
Ax is boring
At last FREE. Years too late in my opinion. Most players left already because of this engineering BS.
i think the new T8 will be the king for farming these materials cause of the low fuel consumption using SCO