As I get further along in my knowledge, the one thing that keeps getting banged into my thick skull 💀 is prefect preparation every time! You are organised and meticulous in your preparation and that is a credit to you! Your bowl is beautiful, congrats!!! Cheers Sean
Terrific tutorial. Very clear and understandable. I just finished my wedgie sled, and your tutorial highlights some of the other areas that need close attention. Plus it's really enjoyable watching a beautiful bowl appear at the end.
Great looking bowl and an outstanding video! I'm going to adopt some of your methods as I am getting into segmented turning. I think it will really step up my game.
Excellent video, liked your bowl very much. Nice work! I too do segmented work and your method is very similar to mine with some miner differences. Thank you and good work.
Hi Dick - New to segmented turning and find this video one of the best I have seen. I have a couple questions: 1) Is there a plan for the stop you used so set the length of the segments on the table saw? 2) Typically how long do you wait before turning the rings when they are glued on the lathe? 3) Is there a source for the multi ring plastic template you used when drawing the foot? Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience.
You can find plans for the Wedgie Sled and also get the ‘wedgies’ at segeasy.com/. Look for plans under Download. That’s where I got the info when I built mine. Also watch his instructional videos on how to make and use the sled. They are excellent. Look up Woodturners Center Finder for the plastic template. They are all over. I think I got mine at Rockler, but they are probably cheaper if you look around. As far as glue. I use Titebond slow set white glue to glue the segments into rings. It gives me more working time when sliding all those little pieces around. Let the rings dry over night. When gluing the rings together you only have to wait about 10 minutes for the glue to get tacky then put the next one in place. I use regular Titebond II or III because I want it to dry fast. After your rings are all glued clamp it together using your lathe and leave it sit over night.
Nice design. I very much like the wood choices. Interesting use of the forstner bit on the foot. I also like the finish. Well edited video. I was about to chastise you for not giving credit for the wedgie sled and software until I found the references above. Two great tools.
Hi Dick - Thanks for the previous response. One more question. For the jig you created to glue the rings on the lathe what did you use as the shaft that goes into the tail stock? I used the Morse Taper from a drill that I use on the lathe inserted into a slightly undersized hole on the bottom of the plate. That works for now but I am looking for a more permanent way to secure it. Thanks again for your help - Bob
I glued a block to the back of the ringed platter and tapped it to fit the threads on my Robust live center. I have pix but it appears you can’t add images to a RUclips comment.
Hi Dick - thanks again for all the help - another question - are the vertical pieces used in the feature ring cut with the same angle as the segments and how does their addition impact the segment length needed to create the desired diameter of the completed ring? Hope that makes sense 🙂
They are simply square cut 1/4" thick spacers, no angle. When you create that ring you have to allow for all the extra 1/4" pieces. Here is a link to the cut list and a cross section view I created for that bowl. I had to dig for this stuff because it has been a long time since I made that bowl (I actually made 5 of them in all), This should help you out. Hopefully the link works. www.dropbox.com/sh/4xq1nqeh0ywa938/AADl2hRLrgTTmiF_efBX8ZQla?dl=0
It’s not end grain, but all the dark wood is wenge which is real hard and brittle. Turning wenge, in my experience, is more of a challenge than most other types of wood I usually use and can cause problems from time to time.
Excellent video and bowl. I’ve turned only a handful of small segmented bowls and was trying to find a way to glue up the rings of a large bowl, like this one. Your idea of using a concentric ring assembly in the tail stock is a LOT better than what I had thought about doing - using a huge jam chuck cone thing. Many thanks for sharing your ideas with us! One question though, regarding the wedgie sled. I noticed that you cut your segments from the “top” edge of the assembly - the edges farthest from you. When I cut mine I had been using the top and bottom edges of the sled. Can you explain? Regards, Jim
Thanks! Probably just the way I edited the video maybe only showing all cuts on top fence. I use both the top and bottom part of the sled alternating every other segment.
Another question - I see that you’ve carved out a recess in the bottom and use that to mount the foot. I was thinking about using a paper glue joint to hold the entire thing as I turned it, but perhaps using my chuck as you did might be a better plan. My question is - how high of an RPM did you use to do your turning with the chuck method? Jim
On segmented bowls I prefer to use the method in the video because after you are done turning the bowl, except for finishing, you are DONE. Nothing more stressful for me than to spend all that time and then launch the bowl off the lathe turning the bottom of the foot. Using the expansion method like this I can get a pretty good speed going without worry. Probably 1000 rpm’s or more. Depends on the size of the bowl. Have never lost one using that method.
Very nice bowl. Curious, what is the design program you use to get the cut list. I really want to attempt a segmented project and that program would certainly help. Is it your own or a purchased program? Where might I obtain a copy?
Lot of great tips. I love your little ramp to deflect pieces. Also love you concentric ring jig for centering. What brand of drum sander do you have and how do you like it?
Thanks! The segment length determines the diameter of the final ring. The segment cut angle determines how many segments make up a ring (12,16,24,etc). The segment width determines how wide the ring is which it critical as you stack rings to make sure you have enough overhang to glue the next ring and leave some material to turn. In the video description I list several free segment calc web page links as well as a link to the purchased software I use. Here is one of the free links. Go in and play with it and you should be able to see how all the various calcs work together. www.delorie.com/wood/segturn.html
I am new to this process; I have made a wedgie sled and I am able to turn traditional and board bowls, but I hope I am ready for this. Question: my math is not so hot and all the videos to calculate the actual segment sizes, diameter, etc. just confuse me. Are there detailed bowl plans that I can buy?
If you look in the video description/notes I have listed some free web sites that do the math for you, and also a link to the purchased software I use which really makes design and math easy. This takes all the math out of it, you just have to decide what material you want to use, and roughly how big you want the final object to be. As far as designs, I just look at a lot of different things on the web and just wing it. You might want to check out Segmented Turners website and Facebook page for ideas.
Yes, if you are going for an exact size you have to account for the spacers. Mine are 1/8” thick, and the software I am using automatically calculates how much to take off each segment. Info on the software is in the description.
It really does vary a lot, and I complicate the calc because I tend to make at least 2 at a time, but my best guess for this particular bowl would be .... 2 hrs to prep all the stock, an hour to cut the segments, 2 hours to glue the segments into rings, an hour to sand all the rings flat, 20 minutes to glue the rings together, 30 minutes to actually turn and finish the bowl. Of course all of this is spread over 4-5 days waiting for glue to dry.
@@CDRowe1 wow! I thought it would have been a lot more than that! It probably would be for someone who has never done this before. That is impressive, that little bit of time to make something that nice!
This bowl is a real beauty. I am just getting into segmenting and have all my jigs ready to go at it. You make it look easy.
It is easy after you make a few dozen :-)
As I get further along in my knowledge, the one thing that keeps getting banged into my thick skull 💀 is prefect preparation every time! You are organised and meticulous in your preparation and that is a credit to you! Your bowl is beautiful, congrats!!! Cheers Sean
Thanks! I can’t imagine how anyone could make something like this without being at least a little bit organized.
IT'S BEAUTIFUL.
Terrific tutorial. Very clear and understandable. I just finished my wedgie sled, and your tutorial highlights some of the other areas that need close attention. Plus it's really enjoyable watching a beautiful bowl appear at the end.
Thanks much! They are a bunch of work, but the results make it worth it.
Beautiful work, thanks for sharing..
Thanks!
Great looking bowl and an outstanding video! I'm going to adopt some of your methods as I am getting into segmented turning. I think it will really step up my game.
Glad it was useful for you. Patience and organization are the keys.
Beautiful bowl and the presentation was excellent Thank you for sharing
REally nice, just starting out my self on this
Great video and very informative. I've been doing a bunch of research on making a segmented bowl. I can't wait to turn my first one!
Thanks! It is a lot of fun, and easier to get started than people think. Good luck!
Great talent
Excellent video, liked your bowl very much. Nice work! I too do segmented work and your method is very similar to mine with some miner differences. Thank you and good work.
Thanks!
Beautiful piece. Thx for taking the time. Much appreciated.
Thank you!
Lovely. You are very precise in your work.
Beautifully done nice choices in the wood selection and design. Awesome tutorial
Rebel Turner Thanks Al!
Very, very nice.
I agree with Al nicely done. I'll be checking back for more.
Thanks!
Absolutely stunning
Hi Dick - New to segmented turning and find this video one of the best I have seen. I have a couple questions:
1) Is there a plan for the stop you used so set the length of the segments on the table saw?
2) Typically how long do you wait before turning the rings when they are glued on the lathe?
3) Is there a source for the multi ring plastic template you used when drawing the foot?
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experience.
You can find plans for the Wedgie Sled and also get the ‘wedgies’ at segeasy.com/. Look for plans under Download. That’s where I got the info when I built mine. Also watch his instructional videos on how to make and use the sled. They are excellent. Look up Woodturners Center Finder for the plastic template. They are all over. I think I got mine at Rockler, but they are probably cheaper if you look around.
As far as glue. I use Titebond slow set white glue to glue the segments into rings. It gives me more working time when sliding all those little pieces around. Let the rings dry over night. When gluing the rings together you only have to wait about 10 minutes for the glue to get tacky then put the next one in place. I use regular Titebond II or III because I want it to dry fast. After your rings are all glued clamp it together using your lathe and leave it sit over night.
Nice design. I very much like the wood choices. Interesting use of the forstner bit on the foot. I also like the finish. Well edited video. I was about to chastise you for not giving credit for the wedgie sled and software until I found the references above. Two great tools.
Thank you!! It was a fun project.
Stunning bowl. Nice video. Easy to follow. Thanlyou
Hi Dick - Thanks for the previous response. One more question. For the jig you created to glue the rings on the lathe what did you use as the shaft that goes into the tail stock? I used the Morse Taper from a drill that I use on the lathe inserted into a slightly undersized hole on the bottom of the plate. That works for now but I am looking for a more permanent way to secure it. Thanks again for your help - Bob
I glued a block to the back of the ringed platter and tapped it to fit the threads on my Robust live center. I have pix but it appears you can’t add images to a RUclips comment.
very professional
Hi Dick - thanks again for all the help - another question - are the vertical pieces used in the feature ring cut with the same angle as the segments and how does their addition impact the segment length needed to create the desired diameter of the completed ring? Hope that makes sense 🙂
They are simply square cut 1/4" thick spacers, no angle. When you create that ring you have to allow for all the extra 1/4" pieces.
Here is a link to the cut list and a cross section view I created for that bowl. I had to dig for this stuff because it has been a long time since I made that bowl (I actually made 5 of them in all), This should help you out. Hopefully the link works.
www.dropbox.com/sh/4xq1nqeh0ywa938/AADl2hRLrgTTmiF_efBX8ZQla?dl=0
VERY NICE. DO YOU SELL THE BOWLS?
Beautiful! Are the thin strips between the larger segments end grain? If so, do they cause problems?
It’s not end grain, but all the dark wood is wenge which is real hard and brittle. Turning wenge, in my experience, is more of a challenge than most other types of wood I usually use and can cause problems from time to time.
Wow it is awesome and stunning.
Very nice bowl, piece of art!!
Thanks much!
Peter Ramaekers j
Very nice! Thanks for sharing.
Excellent video and bowl. I’ve turned only a handful of small segmented bowls and was trying to find a way to glue up the rings of a large bowl, like this one. Your idea of using a concentric ring assembly in the tail stock is a LOT better than what I had thought about doing - using a huge jam chuck cone thing. Many thanks for sharing your ideas with us!
One question though, regarding the wedgie sled. I noticed that you cut your segments from the “top” edge of the assembly - the edges farthest from you. When I cut mine I had been using the top and bottom edges of the sled. Can you explain?
Regards, Jim
Thanks! Probably just the way I edited the video maybe only showing all cuts on top fence. I use both the top and bottom part of the sled alternating every other segment.
Very good job!
hermoso felicitaciones por el trabajo jorge de argentina
Very nice! Great instructional video! I just found your channel and I made sure to subscribe.
Yeah it's fantastic! Compliments!
😻😻🙋💋 super tare
Another question - I see that you’ve carved out a recess in the bottom and use that to mount the foot. I was thinking about using a paper glue joint to hold the entire thing as I turned it, but perhaps using my chuck as you did might be a better plan. My question is - how high of an RPM did you use to do your turning with the chuck method?
Jim
On segmented bowls I prefer to use the method in the video because after you are done turning the bowl, except for finishing, you are DONE. Nothing more stressful for me than to spend all that time and then launch the bowl off the lathe turning the bottom of the foot. Using the expansion method like this I can get a pretty good speed going without worry. Probably 1000 rpm’s or more. Depends on the size of the bowl. Have never lost one using that method.
Very nice bowl. Curious, what is the design program you use to get the cut list. I really want to attempt a segmented project and that program would certainly help. Is it your own or a purchased program? Where might I obtain a copy?
Woodturner Pro .. links for everything are in the video description
Weldon beautiful bowl.
I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE HEARING FROM THE WARNER BROTHERS SOON. NICE SLED MR. ROWE.
Reminds me of a Roulette wheel
Lot of great tips. I love your little ramp to deflect pieces. Also love you concentric ring jig for centering.
What brand of drum sander do you have and how do you like it?
I have an older Performax 22-44, and I like it a lot. I think several years ago they sold out to Jet which has a very similar model.
Mr. Rowe. Beautiful work! Can you tell me a good formula for segment length? I am getting conflicting information. Thank you for your time.
Thanks!
The segment length determines the diameter of the final ring. The segment cut angle determines how many segments make up a ring (12,16,24,etc). The segment width determines how wide the ring is which it critical as you stack rings to make sure you have enough overhang to glue the next ring and leave some material to turn.
In the video description I list several free segment calc web page links as well as a link to the purchased software I use. Here is one of the free links. Go in and play with it and you should be able to see how all the various calcs work together. www.delorie.com/wood/segturn.html
I am new to this process; I have made a wedgie sled and I am able to turn traditional and board bowls, but I hope I am ready for this. Question: my math is not so hot and all the videos to calculate the actual segment sizes, diameter, etc. just confuse me. Are there detailed bowl plans that I can buy?
If you look in the video description/notes I have listed some free web sites that do the math for you, and also a link to the purchased software I use which really makes design and math easy. This takes all the math out of it, you just have to decide what material you want to use, and roughly how big you want the final object to be. As far as designs, I just look at a lot of different things on the web and just wing it. You might want to check out Segmented Turners website and Facebook page for ideas.
Thanks for sharing, beautiful bowl. I haven't turned my first bowl but I'm looking forward to the learning process to get to this point...
do you have to account for the spacer thickness when cutting the segments? If so, how?
Yes, if you are going for an exact size you have to account for the spacers. Mine are 1/8” thick, and the software I am using automatically calculates how much to take off each segment. Info on the software is in the description.
How long does it take to make a bowl like this? Minus glue drying time.
It really does vary a lot, and I complicate the calc because I tend to make at least 2 at a time, but my best guess for this particular bowl would be .... 2 hrs to prep all the stock, an hour to cut the segments, 2 hours to glue the segments into rings, an hour to sand all the rings flat, 20 minutes to glue the rings together, 30 minutes to actually turn and finish the bowl. Of course all of this is spread over 4-5 days waiting for glue to dry.
@@CDRowe1 wow! I thought it would have been a lot more than that! It probably would be for someone who has never done this before. That is impressive, that little bit of time to make something that nice!
what computer program do you use
I see it in the links sorry!
Nice work nice video Dick!
Thanks Erik. I have been one of your subscribers for years. Enjoy your work.
I HATE GAPS, TOO.