Many iPhones have come out since Steve Jobs passed, and with each one you always get the question of what the former CEO would have said about the product. Could it be that the iPhone 5, the last phone for which Jobs had input, is the last 'TRUE' iPhone? Join the discord! --- discord.io/91tech
The iPhone 4/5 design was just ahead of its time. Hence why Apple adopted its design language in recent years. It really goes to show how forward thinking Jobs was, along with everyone who worked on the iPhone of course.
The new 12 series is not even close to how perfect the design of the 4/5 was, they brought it back for the sake of redesign and because people didn't stop crying about it.
Bro that squared of design on the bigger phones of the recent years is just BULLSHIT No way this design feels more comfortable to hold and far from EvEn bEiNg fUtUrIsTiC The iphone 4/5 were small phones so that didn't matter much for them but in an era where 99% smart phone brands have been making curbed edge design for ages this new design truly feels it's not meant to be here and that, it is rather more uncomfortable.
I think that Jobs might have eventually caved on adding more sizes to the iPhones, but he'd find the current lineup way to complex and confusing for their customers. What is "Pro" about the iPhone 12 Pro? Why have a 12 and a 12 Pro when the only difference is 1 camera lense? And why have an SE and a Mini when the 2 could be combined to form one smaller AND cheaper iPhone? The same is true of the iPad lineup IMO. Why do we have a 12.9" Pro, an 11" pro, an Air, a Mini AND a bog standard iPad? It's way too much, too much choice for too little difference.
I understand what you mean, for example the iPhone 12 Pro, isn't that much different the regular iPhone 12. Besides the the telephoto lense and the bigger aperture, and the stainless steel bands and finishes, I think the iPhone 12 pros shouldn't really exist to begin with. However with the times, Android has many different phones at different prices to target different consumers, with different needs. What's important to note, that as long it has a strong purpose to be there, it's fine and it's the not same product, in the same category. There is a purpose for the entire level iPad, as not everyone wants to spend a lot for one, and makes it accessible to all, at a affordable price. the lineup could be adjusted, but it's important to note, just because we don't want a certain phone, that shouldn't it exist in the first place, Apple should investigate and explore the possibilities, but as long it has a strong reason to exist and not the same product in the same category I think it's fine.
I absolutely agree! There is nothing wrong with the new iPhones, but the lineup is too complex! And Apple starts working on phones years before release, so I think a part of the design, and the vision for the iPhone 6 came from Jobs!
if you believe Jobs would’ve done anything differently I think you’re absolutely mistaken . Apple , either under Jobs or cook , are money grabbing nuts . the pro iphones are just there to elude customers for the 1000$ price tag market . if jobs was still here , I’d highly doubt he would sell products for any less or any differently .
The thing that most people overlook is that the reason Steve Jobs was so successful was that he *wasn’t* nostalgic. He lived in the present and made what he thought best decisions for the days he was living in, rather than clinging on to the past, which would have been futile and frankly dumb. I feel like Tim Cook had mostly been doing the exact seem thing, but people romanticize Steve Jobs so much and “the reality distortion field”, they act like Cook is so much worse. The truth is, the vast majority of the complaints about Apple now are the exact same ones people had about Jobs. Anti-competitive, pointlessly getting rid of popular ports, overpriced, greedy behavior, some failed products (MobileMe anyone?) etc. Heck, if you look back at tech journalism from 2013, a lot of people were already getting sick of iOS 6 because the feature gap between it and Android Jelly Bean was ridiculous by that point, and it really couldn’t do a lot of relatively simple things, like downloading things in the background (if you tried to download a comic from the Marvel app for instance, you legit had to sit there and couldn’t leave the app). I’m saying this as someone who admires Steve Jobs and the older iOS versions, but nostalgia can really be a dangerous drug.
The reason why people feel/felt nostalgic is because prior to iPhone X and now 12, there were barely any significant changes to the iPhone. Apple kept recycling old and ugly iPhone 6 design elements up until the current generation, which frustrated customers like me who wanted a phone designed in a way that didn’t feel inferior to Steve Jobs era. I no longer feel nostalgic now that I own the 12.
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During the last 1 or 2 years, I’ve felt that Apple really is back on track. Awesome iPhone lineup, awesome Macs, accessories and services. iCloud evolved enough and it’s a charm!
iPhone 5 was my first iPhone and I still love its Design till this day. This slate colour was just gorgeous. The only iPhone that really catches up with the spirit of the five since then was the X.
The iPhone I spent the most time using in my childhood was a gold 5s. I love my gold 12 Pro Max completely due to the nostalgia factor as a result. The 4/5 series was definitely the peak of the Jobs era IMO
I believe so as well, and based on leaks from 2013, it was going to have glass in the upper and lower back part, like the 5s. That would’ve made a huge difference in design imo, since the iPhone 6 didn’t feel as premium as the 5s for some reason…
The iPhone 5 with iOS 6 was a masterpiece. A responsive and stable OS on a beautifully designed phone that you could easily use with one hand. But I have to say that, since the iPhone X came out, they are back on the right track.
In Retrospect you’ve made a very great review over the generations of apple products you’ve kept it very formal and informative over the flaws and achievements of his work and apple as a whole, great job.
I actually felt that «iphone feeling» with the iPhone X. That screamed new and original - a beautiful product that Steve would have been proud of. The next after that didn’t catch that feeling again
@@sid1234213Sorry, i might have gotten you on wrong thoughts. Apple users would be prople,that work at banks or important jobs or people that need a stable phone.
I believe apart from ditching skeumorphism the 2nd thing that marks end of jobs era with iPhones is protruding camera in iPhone 6 onwards. he would've never allowed that
As photo quality became more and more important for mobile phones, as consumers began using their phones more and digital cameras less, phones needed bigger and bigger cameras. The only way to put bigger cameras in a phone without them protruding is to make the whole phone thicker (and heavier) so that the cameras don’t protrude. Would iPhone customers have been content to stick with thicker, heavier phones when Android manufacturers like Samsung started boasting that their flagship phones were thinner than flagship iPhones? Many reviewers would have stressed the ‘cult of thin’ and said the iPhone was outdated.
Plot twist: its was the tenth year anniversary of the iPhone 4 and that phone had a glass back with flat sides And iPhone 12 has the same build as the 4
I'm still rocking my iPhone SE in Space Grey and love it. Perfect size. I admit some games aren't really that great since the buttons ingame are made for larger displays. But I personally don't mind since everything else is more comfortable and natural on the SE. I can just use my tablet when I want to play games.
I believe that one of the last things that Steve Jobs said to Tim Cook was to not ask what Steve would have done but for Tim to do what he felt was right and what was necessary. As much as I miss my iPhone 4, the iPhone 5 wasn't enough to prevent me from switching to a Samsung Galaxy S4. The competition with Android was and is still fierce. And Android phones, most notably Samsung phones where coning out with phones that were rivaling the iPhone. So Tim Cook and Apple had to adapt to the changes in consumer tastes, e.g. larger screens and better cameras. Some of the things that Tim did Steve would have probably done as well.
i-phones in the Steve Jobs era were literally the best performing phones while having a design language that made android phones look cheap in comparison but now the tables are turned with android phones having far better displays and built quality while apple is still stuck to Notches that most of the android companies left in 2019. Apple still has better processors but apart from that it looks incredibly dated while compared to android
IPhones actually had worse processors than high-end Android phones back in the Jobs era. It's really in the last few years that they've pulled way ahead of what Qualcomm is doing.
@@tony24-u9x They may be the fastest performing, but they certainly don't feel like it when their displays top out at 60hz. Whenever I touch my parents' iPhone after using my Note 20 Ultra, it feels sluggish.
As someone who had the opportunity to use an apple Product during the Jobs Era I can tell you Android was way behind on their phones nowadays Android phones are better than the iPhone believe me iOS feels dated now they need to change it once again also the battery life is important since iPhones tend to die fast and take a long ass time to fucken charge that's why I'll never go back unless they make their phones USB C
I bought the iPhone 13 Pro a couple of weeks ago after using the iPhone 10 since release day. I think upgrading every 3 generations is the best way to go, wow what an upgrade.
Jobs would have approached the notch and camera bump differently... he would have forced lens tech to advance within apple's space allowances. The notch --he would have kept the bezels to hide it and woven it into the design so that it would be perfectly symmetrical. He also would have killed the audio jack sooner and probably already removed the lightning port as well. The iPhone 5 will always be my favorite phone model, (along with the SE 1 lol). I got the 13 pro now and the thing is always sticking out of my pocket. I would have gotten the 13 Mini but I wanted the 120hz display...
Totally agreed. I was one of those that loved the design of iPhone 4 and at first thought yeah that would be kinda cool bringing it to the 12... But it didn't work out that way. Very uncomfortable imo, Can leave marks on your hand if you hold it long enough with overlapping fingers/thumb, And looks wise it doesn't look all that nice the way the iPhone 4 did back in the day. The 11 pro is just a perfect design.. My current favourite iPhone.. And still is!
@Hideika lol you mad? I owned a iPhone 3GS,4,6 plus,7,x,11 pro and 12 pro. The rounded corners on the device makes it easier to hold and more comfortable. I have 2 cases for my 12 pro. The Apple leather case and a Casetify case that actually is rounded which I do prefer. But the leather case is mag safe and I use a MagSafe PopSocket so I use both
@Hideika salty much ? I’ve also owned a Samsung Galaxy S2 skyrocket, S3,S4, note 3, note 4, Nexus 5, S8, Note 8 and the first pixel phone soooo far from a fanboy.
@@grkb I don't care if a person doesn't care about his family, in fact these are his personal affairs, I care about the great inventions he presented to people that changed our lives forever, and then other companies imitated Apple products.
I suppose in a way, the 5C hearkened back to the 3G/3GS design, insofar as it had a plastic shell that went around the whole back and sides of the phone. So not totally out of left field or anything.
@@91Tech I think iphone design lost it's way after the 5. I have a 5S in my collection and often pick it up just to admire the looks and feel of it, and wish it was still useable as a main device today.
I had a white iPhone 5, and I LOVED the sleek modern design of it. It's one of my favorite iPhones. I had an iPhone 6S for awhile, and I've had an iPhone X since it came out in 2017. I have really enjoyed using my X for the last four years despite it's fairly weak battery performance... it has long struggled to make it through a day when I can't charge it. It has a very nice design, a good camera, and a beautiful OLED display - and it still performs very well. I have a Sierra Blue iPhone 13 Pro on order, coming in November. I really like the return (since the iPhone 12) to the metal straight-sided design of the iPhone 5. The 13 Pro is so pretty, I will be getting a thin clear case for it, so it will be visible but protected.
He’d probably be pretty happy and excited as we are about the new phones Mac books iMacs and the software they are all pretty amazing specially on the newest versions brought back what the ppl asked for and jus improved in many satisfying ways
What is the screen size of your iPad Pro? If not 12.9", never ever watch 4K RUclips video on this iPad! 4K is Ultra HD (2160p). Decreasing that resolution to Quad HD (1440p) on an iPad unless it has a 12.9" Retina display will not affect displayed picture but will save traffic.
Steve Jobs was definitely involved with the development of IOS 7. Not sure why people think otherwise. It literally came out alongside the iPhone 5, which everyone acknowledges he helped create. He had his hand in both before passing. People seem to think overall that Jobs didn’t make controversial decisions and everyone loved everything he did. While in reality he made more polarizing decisions than Cook ever has. And not always in a good way.
I recently upgraded from a 1st gen SE to a 3 week old 12, unfortunately not the mini, however battery life is just amazing, and the small trick with beeing able to drop down the top half of your home screen for 1 hand useage is just simply amazing! Yes, Apples functions are behind android, however, things just… work on the iphone. I will still use my SE as a backup phone just in case, but overall, im impressed!
The iPhone 5 was probably the best iPhone Apple ever made in my opinion and after that they kinda went to crap I had the iPhone 5C after my iPhone 5 started getting slow and outdated and that thing was crap I honestly wish I kept my iPhone 5 instead of upgrading to the iPhone 5C so then I switched to Android mostly Samsung Phone's or Motorola Phone's until the Google Pixel came out and now that's what I currently have and I couldn't be happier with Google Pixel.
Starting with the Note 10, Samsung has also been going through a similar shift. The cameras got moved to a corner and the shape of the back panel is no longer a double saddle atarting with S22
i think that the 4 is peak iPhone in terms of design. i feel that there are still some things that apple could adopt from the Steve jobs era. For starters the iPhone 4 had a camera flush with the back glass where modern iPhone (from the 6 onwards) is starting to look ridiculous, the lack of a headphone jack, and the use of glossy stainless steel as opposed to the brushed stainless steel. i would rather have a thicker iphone with a camera that sits flush with the back with greatly improved battery life and the headphone jack returning. I am starting to really not like how apple keeps increasing the size of the camera bump. Don't get me wrong, the 5 is a good design but i feel the 4 being more ahead of its time and more parts of the 4 have aged better.
I personally think the iPhone 5s was the best phone they ever made. I had the 5s for 3 years. It took me months to get use to the iPhone 6s size. I had a iPhone 6s for almost 3 years then finally bought a SE2 for the last 6 months and I love it.
This is like an iPhone mini documentary. Love this. Although, I do believe in my personal opinion that the 7 is the last “true”’ iPhone, I get everything that’s being said here. Seriously, this was an awesome watch.
I loved that phone. I only got into iPhone because my best friend gave me his old iPhone 4. I used to roll with Nextel. 😂 I liked the simplicity of the 4 and upgraded to the 5 when it rolled out. However the 6S has been my favorite. I liked it so much that I used it from the day it debuted in 2015 until now towards the end of 2022. I finally upgraded and went with the 14 Pro. 😂
Any iPhone Steve Jobs, had a hand in before his death is the real iPhone. Seen as it is 10 years since his passing, Steve Jobs estate should now open up his personal archives to show what thinking on designs and ideas.
I’m sure Jobs would have eventually added some larger phones, but would have also kept the smaller size of the iPhone 5 around. I have an iPhone 8, which isn’t big by today’s standards, but I really miss the size of the iPhone 4/5
Its the last in the sense that it was made by Steve. Also the fact that he wanted an EASY ONE HAND USE phone. Thats why screens were so small for so long. After he passed the 6 came out right? And they did whatever they wanted to. He wanted one hand, thumb moves from one corner to the other diagonally. Instead we got these 6-7in giant phablets. I always thought 5in was the max and best suited, but everyone pushed even beyond that.
If the iPhone 5 is the last true iPhone, does that mean the iPad 4 is the last true iPad? The similarities are: • Released in 2012 • First of their line to use Lightning port • Last of their line to use 32-bit processors • Uses the classic home button • Retina display • No fingerprint sensor
Always sorta despised the look and feel of the 6-10. Never really for for me, the 10 especially feels cheap for some reason...4-5s definitely have the best feel and look. The squared off look just feels best for some reason.
That’s why I love the 12, because it’s a better version of the 4-5. I waited a long time to upgrade because I didn’t like the models for a few years either, but the newest ones are fantastic.
Because it's The first iPhone comes with lightning connector and was also launching ios 7 that tim was so unique user interfaces, 5 sized like so much handy and Starting of new size
Personally, I consider the iPhone 6 through the 11 the same design language. Yes you have the new full screen display, but the frame and design was still too similar to the iPhone 6 with the same rounded edges and camera bump. Now the iPhone 12, that's a new design language for sure
Technicallyy is the iPhone 4 Because Steve Jobs had a size standard, and the iPhone 5 (even if today is too small) but back then it grew the size that job stablished as perfect iPhone 6, 7, 8, X, and 11 on the other hand, grew so much and their design looked as normal androids And don't let me start with the design of iOS 7 and next ones... Too simple, too minimalistic. Previous iOS design were so recognisable and distinctive
Although Steve Jobs may not have designed EVERY iPhone, I bet that he still loves where Apple is and it’s phones. He’d be so proud to see the flat edges on the most recent iPhones.
I much preferred the old realistic looking icons, actually. And I still think the 5 series was the perfect form factor. And that's coming from someone who watches a ton of mobile video.
I wish Steve was still alive today. So he can see and be pissed how his employees fcked up the phones. One of the example of this is the removing the headphone jack. Steve is an Audiophile so removing the jack would not cross his mind. Even though I've own the iPhone 6s, 7, 7 Plus, and 8plus, I've found myself being satisfied and more pleased on the 5's design NGL
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Many iPhones have come out since Steve Jobs passed, and with each one you always get the question of what the former CEO would have said about the product. Could it be that the iPhone 5, the last phone for which Jobs had input, is the last 'TRUE' iPhone?
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Apple has never been the same
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The iPhone 4/5 design was just ahead of its time. Hence why Apple adopted its design language in recent years. It really goes to show how forward thinking Jobs was, along with everyone who worked on the iPhone of course.
The new 12 series is not even close to how perfect the design of the 4/5 was, they brought it back for the sake of redesign and because people didn't stop crying about it.
@@agiverreviga4592 I'm glad they brought it back because the iPhone 4 was a sleek device
Bro that squared of design on the bigger phones of the recent years is just BULLSHIT
No way this design feels more comfortable to hold and far from EvEn bEiNg fUtUrIsTiC
The iphone 4/5 were small phones so that didn't matter much for them but in an era where 99% smart phone brands have been making curbed edge design for ages this new design truly feels it's not meant to be here and that, it is rather more uncomfortable.
The 4/5 design is terrible for large phones. Have you held a 12 pro max? Absolute ergonomic nightmare.
@@agiverreviga4592 i think it was more because of the convenience of a flat edged phone. you can fit internals into every corner with this design
I think that Jobs might have eventually caved on adding more sizes to the iPhones, but he'd find the current lineup way to complex and confusing for their customers. What is "Pro" about the iPhone 12 Pro? Why have a 12 and a 12 Pro when the only difference is 1 camera lense? And why have an SE and a Mini when the 2 could be combined to form one smaller AND cheaper iPhone? The same is true of the iPad lineup IMO. Why do we have a 12.9" Pro, an 11" pro, an Air, a Mini AND a bog standard iPad? It's way too much, too much choice for too little difference.
I understand what you mean, for example the iPhone 12 Pro, isn't that much different the regular iPhone 12. Besides the the telephoto lense and the bigger aperture, and the stainless steel bands and finishes, I think the iPhone 12 pros shouldn't really exist to begin with.
However with the times, Android has many different phones at different prices to target different consumers, with different needs.
What's important to note, that as long it has a strong purpose to be there, it's fine and it's the not same product, in the same category.
There is a purpose for the entire level iPad, as not everyone wants to spend a lot for one, and makes it accessible to all, at a affordable price.
the lineup could be adjusted, but it's important to note, just because we don't want a certain phone, that shouldn't it exist in the first place, Apple should investigate and explore the possibilities, but as long it has a strong reason to exist and not the same product in the same category I think it's fine.
I absolutely agree! There is nothing wrong with the new iPhones, but the lineup is too complex! And Apple starts working on phones years before release, so I think a part of the design, and the vision for the iPhone 6 came from Jobs!
Jobs did his job. He would be too bored with iphones anyways and worked on the next best thing.
Maybe "Pro" models in the future will fold or expand. I bet anything Apple under $1500 will stay slabs until 2025-2027.
if you believe Jobs would’ve done anything differently I think you’re absolutely mistaken . Apple , either under Jobs or cook , are money grabbing nuts . the pro iphones are just there to elude customers for the 1000$ price tag market . if jobs was still here , I’d highly doubt he would sell products for any less or any differently .
The thing that most people overlook is that the reason Steve Jobs was so successful was that he *wasn’t* nostalgic. He lived in the present and made what he thought best decisions for the days he was living in, rather than clinging on to the past, which would have been futile and frankly dumb. I feel like Tim Cook had mostly been doing the exact seem thing, but people romanticize Steve Jobs so much and “the reality distortion field”, they act like Cook is so much worse. The truth is, the vast majority of the complaints about Apple now are the exact same ones people had about Jobs. Anti-competitive, pointlessly getting rid of popular ports, overpriced, greedy behavior, some failed products (MobileMe anyone?) etc. Heck, if you look back at tech journalism from 2013, a lot of people were already getting sick of iOS 6 because the feature gap between it and Android Jelly Bean was ridiculous by that point, and it really couldn’t do a lot of relatively simple things, like downloading things in the background (if you tried to download a comic from the Marvel app for instance, you legit had to sit there and couldn’t leave the app). I’m saying this as someone who admires Steve Jobs and the older iOS versions, but nostalgia can really be a dangerous drug.
Absolutely. This needs to be remembered.
@@madman4043 Absolutely
The reason why people feel/felt nostalgic is because prior to iPhone X and now 12, there were barely any significant changes to the iPhone. Apple kept recycling old and ugly iPhone 6 design elements up until the current generation, which frustrated customers like me who wanted a phone designed in a way that didn’t feel inferior to Steve Jobs era. I no longer feel nostalgic now that I own the 12.
I couldn’t have said it any better.
Exactly.
Who else misses the old built in RUclips app? I took advantage of the “favorites” feature (like the save for later of today) that didn’t require an account.
I wrote this comment using iPhone 5 running iOS 10.3.4 😊
Never had a seriuos issue since I bought this device back in 2013.
May Jobs rest in Peace.
@Bill S Preston Esquire I think Apple feel flat with the 6-8, but recently they have been improving the iPhone.
iPhone 5: The last true iPhone
iPhone 5s: The best iPhone ever
SE gen 1 is the best too
I agree that the best iPhone was 5s. I had a hard time going from a 5s for 3 years to a 6s.
iPhone 4 tho
@@yusefinc1096 same
@@sugab2047 I'm still using the SE 1. I wish Apple would still support it. I don't like any of the models that came after it.
During the last 1 or 2 years, I’ve felt that Apple really is back on track. Awesome iPhone lineup, awesome Macs, accessories and services. iCloud evolved enough and it’s a charm!
They need to bring back the headphone jack.
My dude. This video brought tears to my eyes. Just the nostalgia. Wow. Great video man.
iPhone 5 was my first iPhone and I still love its Design till this day. This slate colour was just gorgeous. The only iPhone that really catches up with the spirit of the five since then was the X.
I wish they would bring it back or kept it
Mine was the SE 2016
You don't own a 12 ... I had almost any iPhone since the 4s, and the 12 is by far the best ever made.
@@Ekphrasys lol I do own an iPhone 12 Pro
The X & the XS are beautiful phones. I have the XS currently. Well crafted, well designed.
iPhone 5 was my first iPhone. Loved that thing. Still have it but it’s not my daily driver.
same
Lol I have it too, but ios 6 is too old, although it looks amazing and the ui is smooth, app compatibility Is poor for such an old os
mine was iPhone 4
@@aasimwz it's no longer supported so that's probs why no apps work on it no more lol
@@zarontavern2002 yea, and for the apps which are supported, it’s a laggy mess
The iPhone I spent the most time using in my childhood was a gold 5s. I love my gold 12 Pro Max completely due to the nostalgia factor as a result. The 4/5 series was definitely the peak of the Jobs era IMO
I have an iPhone SE 2 and love it. Had it for almost 2 years and will still have it for atleast another 3 years
I think Apple plans at least 5 years ahead, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Steve Jobs had the iPhone 6 idea.
Or iPhone 7
it would’ve been scott forestall
@@dustinnrussell Scott was in charge of the OS not the hardware
I believe so as well, and based on leaks from 2013, it was going to have glass in the upper and lower back part, like the 5s. That would’ve made a huge difference in design imo, since the iPhone 6 didn’t feel as premium as the 5s for some reason…
@@Asdftorga The iPhone 6 feels really cheap IMO. The 5 is better. The 7 and 8 are better. The X design is way better.
The iPhone 5 with iOS 6 was a masterpiece. A responsive and stable OS on a beautifully designed phone that you could easily use with one hand.
But I have to say that, since the iPhone X came out, they are back on the right track.
Beautiful shot at 17:33. I love your camera work.
In Retrospect you’ve made a very great review over the generations of apple products you’ve kept it very formal and informative over the flaws and achievements of his work and apple as a whole, great job.
I actually felt that «iphone feeling» with the iPhone X. That screamed new and original - a beautiful product that Steve would have been proud of.
The next after that didn’t catch that feeling again
For me the iPhone X was the last iPhone with aesthetically pleasing design.
Highly Agreed 💯
On Christmas my grandma found her old iphone 5 and I love it
The iPhone 4S is my favorite iPhone especially the large fonts made the small screen easier to read.
I agree.
It's one of the fastest very early iPhones and is still usable today!
I have a white one but it's broken QvQ
I agree although the SE 1st gen is the best small phone of that era
@@TheWill.Suttie45 I accept all opinions.
If that's ehat you like the goof for you!
do u still hafve ur 4s because i traded mine in for a 5s at a retail store in nanaimo back in 2010 :/
I dont know why im so addicted on iphone 5, i just love the design.
i'm addicted to the iPhone 4 design
I wonder what the apple economy would be like if Steve Jobs was still around
Only children and people that do basic stuff would have androids.
Phones would still be small. 😀. I kid… I think.
@@Keremsalep Basic...waw.
@@Keremsalep So like, what would an iPhone user would do? Just curious.
@@sid1234213Sorry, i might have gotten you on wrong thoughts. Apple users would be prople,that work at banks or important jobs or people that need a stable phone.
Man do I ever miss iOS6. I would probably buy another iPhone if I could somehow get that design scheme on a new one.
Android has icon packs and themes that can change how most things on the phone looks.
Let's hope Apple copies them.
Jailbreak your iPhone
Buy an iPhone 5, downgrade to 8.1.4 (untethered jailbreak) and dualboot it to iOS 6
The production levels on this channel 🤯
I have an iPhone 3GS with iOS 6 and I also miss the skeuomorphic design.
I believe apart from ditching skeumorphism the 2nd thing that marks end of jobs era with iPhones is protruding camera in iPhone 6 onwards. he would've never allowed that
As photo quality became more and more important for mobile phones, as consumers began using their phones more and digital cameras less, phones needed bigger and bigger cameras.
The only way to put bigger cameras in a phone without them protruding is to make the whole phone thicker (and heavier) so that the cameras don’t protrude.
Would iPhone customers have been content to stick with thicker, heavier phones when Android manufacturers like Samsung started boasting that their flagship phones were thinner than flagship iPhones? Many reviewers would have stressed the ‘cult of thin’ and said the iPhone was outdated.
@@timonsolus back in iPhone 6 6s 7 and 8 times was pure laziness.
Still love my iPhone 6S+, I will never give it up. It has an audio jack and does everything I need a phone to do.
R.I.P Steve jobs 1955 to 2011
Watching this video in 2022 using an iPhone 5. Love your insights!
I have found myself asking this question over and over as the years have come and gone since 2011. Where would we be if Steve was still with us?
Very well done video. Good work dude!
iPhone 4s was unveiled just before Steve's death. He held on to that
yeaaa i had a 4s too in 2010
i had to trade it in for a 5s tho
I always wait a new video in this channel because I love the contents, Good job, bro
Really missed this channel…Greetings from Ghana
Plot twist: its was the tenth year anniversary of the iPhone 4 and that phone had a glass back with flat sides
And iPhone 12 has the same build as the 4
Yep he mentioned that in the vid at least twice.
I'm still rocking my iPhone SE in Space Grey and love it. Perfect size.
I admit some games aren't really that great since the buttons ingame are made for larger displays.
But I personally don't mind since everything else is more comfortable and natural on the SE.
I can just use my tablet when I want to play games.
Used to watch this channel a lot. Good to be back
I believe that one of the last things that Steve Jobs said to Tim Cook was to not ask what Steve would have done but for Tim to do what he felt was right and what was necessary. As much as I miss my iPhone 4, the iPhone 5 wasn't enough to prevent me from switching to a Samsung Galaxy S4. The competition with Android was and is still fierce. And Android phones, most notably Samsung phones where coning out with phones that were rivaling the iPhone. So Tim Cook and Apple had to adapt to the changes in consumer tastes, e.g. larger screens and better cameras. Some of the things that Tim did Steve would have probably done as well.
Bulllshit
i-phones in the Steve Jobs era were literally the best performing phones while having a design language that made android phones look cheap in comparison but now the tables are turned with android phones having far better displays and built quality while apple is still stuck to Notches that most of the android companies left in 2019. Apple still has better processors but apart from that it looks incredibly dated while compared to android
@Rodneytheproducer Apple is still king in the mobile chips department atleast but yeah they are lacking behind in alot of other key areas
@Rodneytheproducer an unfortunate loss but a fortunate gain
IPhones actually had worse processors than high-end Android phones back in the Jobs era. It's really in the last few years that they've pulled way ahead of what Qualcomm is doing.
@@tony24-u9x They may be the fastest performing, but they certainly don't feel like it when their displays top out at 60hz. Whenever I touch my parents' iPhone after using my Note 20 Ultra, it feels sluggish.
As someone who had the opportunity to use an apple Product during the Jobs Era I can tell you Android was way behind on their phones nowadays Android phones are better than the iPhone believe me iOS feels dated now they need to change it once again also the battery life is important since iPhones tend to die fast and take a long ass time to fucken charge that's why I'll never go back unless they make their phones USB C
I bought the iPhone 13 Pro a couple of weeks ago after using the iPhone 10 since release day. I think upgrading every 3 generations is the best way to go, wow what an upgrade.
Alternative Title: Did We All Die in 2012 and End Up In An Alternate Universe?
I think Jobs started working on the iPhone 6! He didn’t finish it, but I think the vision for the phone came from him!
Jobs would have approached the notch and camera bump differently... he would have forced lens tech to advance within apple's space allowances. The notch --he would have kept the bezels to hide it and woven it into the design so that it would be perfectly symmetrical. He also would have killed the audio jack sooner and probably already removed the lightning port as well. The iPhone 5 will always be my favorite phone model, (along with the SE 1 lol). I got the 13 pro now and the thing is always sticking out of my pocket. I would have gotten the 13 Mini but I wanted the 120hz display...
Me and you are almost the exact same age, I was born in July 2000. Guess that's why we have so much in common when it comes to tech
The design also applies to iPhone SE 2016. Its a very good phone..only disadvantage is the battery.
Pay 50 and Apple will replace the battery
4S/5/5S/SE (2016) are the best Iphones. Glad they brought back that design with 12 line up
I prefer the 11 pro over the 12 pro. The squares edges on a 6.1 inch device isn’t comfortable
@Hideika do you have this phone ???
Totally agreed. I was one of those that loved the design of iPhone 4 and at first thought yeah that would be kinda cool bringing it to the 12... But it didn't work out that way. Very uncomfortable imo, Can leave marks on your hand if you hold it long enough with overlapping fingers/thumb, And looks wise it doesn't look all that nice the way the iPhone 4 did back in the day. The 11 pro is just a perfect design.. My current favourite iPhone.. And still is!
@Hideika lol you mad? I owned a iPhone 3GS,4,6 plus,7,x,11 pro and 12 pro. The rounded corners on the device makes it easier to hold and more comfortable. I have 2 cases for my 12 pro. The Apple leather case and a Casetify case that actually is rounded which I do prefer. But the leather case is mag safe and I use a MagSafe PopSocket so I use both
@Hideika salty much ? I’ve also owned a Samsung Galaxy S2 skyrocket, S3,S4, note 3, note 4, Nexus 5, S8, Note 8 and the first pixel phone soooo far from a fanboy.
@@elliekim6666 "i am not a nerd because i own old like 10 samsung/google phones" holy crap do you frequently break your screens?
Steve was a great man 🥀
No he wasn't, he abused his family and stole ideas
@@TitoTitoTitoTito and he was into acid when he was younger
@@grkb
Signs of a truly great mind, and free thinking individual... Gasp!
@@grkb
I don't care if a person doesn't care about his family, in fact these are his personal affairs, I care about the great inventions he presented to people that changed our lives forever, and then other companies imitated Apple products.
@@maher_raed just like chris Benoit when he murdered his family but you still respect him as a wrestler. Yeah right!
Digging those freshly baked lofi beats on the background
God, I love all the retro stuff in the backdrops!
I suppose in a way, the 5C hearkened back to the 3G/3GS design, insofar as it had a plastic shell that went around the whole back and sides of the phone. So not totally out of left field or anything.
Despite price, I thought the 5C were really cool.
They just never upgraded it.
@@CrazyKingJammy I agree, and it is odd that they pretty much dropped the idea of the "budget" iPhone.
@@mista414 i mean, the SE became the budget.
But the plastic 5C got a bad rep and no second chance. I think if the price is right, the feel is real.
I have iphone 4s ios 6.1.3. I don't use it anymore, i keep it as a collection. I hope i can get a 5 and 5s soon. Nice video man.!
This man with classic consoles. A man of culture.
Nice vid bravo Josh
iPhone 5 def had the best external design. Those chamfered edges!
Great content Josh.
:) thanks Gary!
@@91Tech I think iphone design lost it's way after the 5.
I have a 5S in my collection and often pick it up just to admire the looks and feel of it, and wish it was still useable as a main device today.
I remember watching soldierknowsbest back then and how he had rumors of a bigger iphones as the iOS6 beta had an additional app row.
It would be nice if flagships had one and two handed versions. I bought an iPhone SE 2016 last year and I'm thinking of going for a 12 Mini or SE 3
I’m so glad I got my iPhone mini it’s brings me back to the iPhone 5. It’s so much easier to hold.
I had a white iPhone 5, and I LOVED the sleek modern design of it. It's one of my favorite iPhones. I had an iPhone 6S for awhile, and I've had an iPhone X since it came out in 2017. I have really enjoyed using my X for the last four years despite it's fairly weak battery performance... it has long struggled to make it through a day when I can't charge it. It has a very nice design, a good camera, and a beautiful OLED display - and it still performs very well.
I have a Sierra Blue iPhone 13 Pro on order, coming in November. I really like the return (since the iPhone 12) to the metal straight-sided design of the iPhone 5. The 13 Pro is so pretty, I will be getting a thin clear case for it, so it will be visible but protected.
I'm honestly ready for a completely new form factor beyond smartphones. Only so much you can do with glass rectangles
Good thing they brought it back with the iPhone 12 series, Classic!
the black iphone 5 will always be my favourite iphone
He’d probably be pretty happy and excited as we are about the new phones Mac books iMacs and the software they are all pretty amazing specially on the newest versions brought back what the ppl asked for and jus improved in many satisfying ways
Great insight video, Josh. Also nice: I can watch your videos in 4K on my new iPad Pro, lovely 😊
What is the screen size of your iPad Pro? If not 12.9", never ever watch 4K RUclips video on this iPad! 4K is Ultra HD (2160p). Decreasing that resolution to Quad HD (1440p) on an iPad unless it has a 12.9" Retina display will not affect displayed picture but will save traffic.
@@AppleFan-md9sp thanks for the advice. I do have an 11 inch iPad Pro so I’ll take it in consideration.
Watching this on true SE :))
Steve Jobs was definitely involved with the development of IOS 7. Not sure why people think otherwise. It literally came out alongside the iPhone 5, which everyone acknowledges he helped create. He had his hand in both before passing. People seem to think overall that Jobs didn’t make controversial decisions and everyone loved everything he did. While in reality he made more polarizing decisions than Cook ever has. And not always in a good way.
I recently upgraded from a 1st gen SE to a 3 week old 12, unfortunately not the mini, however battery life is just amazing, and the small trick with beeing able to drop down the top half of your home screen for 1 hand useage is just simply amazing! Yes, Apples functions are behind android, however, things just… work on the iphone. I will still use my SE as a backup phone just in case, but overall, im impressed!
The iPhone 5 was probably the best iPhone Apple ever made in my opinion and after that they kinda went to crap I had the iPhone 5C after my iPhone 5 started getting slow and outdated and that thing was crap I honestly wish I kept my iPhone 5 instead of upgrading to the iPhone 5C so then I switched to Android mostly Samsung Phone's or Motorola Phone's until the Google Pixel came out and now that's what I currently have and I couldn't be happier with Google Pixel.
Starting with the Note 10, Samsung has also been going through a similar shift. The cameras got moved to a corner and the shape of the back panel is no longer a double saddle atarting with S22
I miss this iPhone ! That was my first iPhone ever !
iPhone 4, 5S, 8 Plus, and X designs, I have a soft spot for
i think that the 4 is peak iPhone in terms of design. i feel that there are still some things that apple could adopt from the Steve jobs era. For starters the iPhone 4 had a camera flush with the back glass where modern iPhone (from the 6 onwards) is starting to look ridiculous, the lack of a headphone jack, and the use of glossy stainless steel as opposed to the brushed stainless steel. i would rather have a thicker iphone with a camera that sits flush with the back with greatly improved battery life and the headphone jack returning. I am starting to really not like how apple keeps increasing the size of the camera bump. Don't get me wrong, the 5 is a good design but i feel the 4 being more ahead of its time and more parts of the 4 have aged better.
I personally think the iPhone 5s was the best phone they ever made. I had the 5s for 3 years. It took me months to get use to the iPhone 6s size. I had a iPhone 6s for almost 3 years then finally bought a SE2 for the last 6 months and I love it.
91tech big fan from 2018
Awesome, thanks for sticking around!
@@91Tech :)
@Shingo I have like 8 accounts one is from 2011
@Shingo ok I guess
@Shingo I’ve had lots of accounts to delete them all the time. Most people do, been on YT since 2011
This is like an iPhone mini documentary. Love this. Although, I do believe in my personal opinion that the 7 is the last “true”’ iPhone, I get everything that’s being said here. Seriously, this was an awesome watch.
I agree. The 7 was the last real iPhone. Maybe the 8 as well.
@@tobias9031 why ?
I loved that phone. I only got into iPhone because my best friend gave me his old iPhone 4. I used to roll with Nextel. 😂 I liked the simplicity of the 4 and upgraded to the 5 when it rolled out. However the 6S has been my favorite. I liked it so much that I used it from the day it debuted in 2015 until now towards the end of 2022. I finally upgraded and went with the 14 Pro. 😂
Any iPhone Steve Jobs, had a hand in before his death is the real iPhone. Seen as it is 10 years since his passing, Steve Jobs estate should now open up his personal archives to show what thinking on designs and ideas.
If Steve were alive today, I’d hope he would have enough brains to realize an iPhone 4-sized device with a full screen display would look sick.
iPhone 12 mini is damn close, hardly taller than the 5 and almost all screen. the 13 mini will shrink the notch.
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I remember updating my iPhone 4 to iOS6 back in the day and looking everywhere on the phone trying to find RUclips
I’m sure Jobs would have eventually added some larger phones, but would have also kept the smaller size of the iPhone 5 around. I have an iPhone 8, which isn’t big by today’s standards, but I really miss the size of the iPhone 4/5
Its the last in the sense that it was made by Steve. Also the fact that he wanted an EASY ONE HAND USE phone. Thats why screens were so small for so long. After he passed the 6 came out right? And they did whatever they wanted to. He wanted one hand, thumb moves from one corner to the other diagonally. Instead we got these 6-7in giant phablets. I always thought 5in was the max and best suited, but everyone pushed even beyond that.
I think Jobs would have serious problems with the notch….
If the iPhone 5 is the last true iPhone, does that mean the iPad 4 is the last true iPad? The similarities are:
• Released in 2012
• First of their line to use Lightning port
• Last of their line to use 32-bit processors
• Uses the classic home button
• Retina display
• No fingerprint sensor
Then the 2012 Macs are the last true Macs.
With Jobs would be still have iPhones with 4 inches screen and less variety.
but it would be interesting to see both Steve Jobs and Tim Cook working together on all the iPhone models, good hardware good software etc etc. :)
Always sorta despised the look and feel of the 6-10. Never really for for me, the 10 especially feels cheap for some reason...4-5s definitely have the best feel and look. The squared off look just feels best for some reason.
That’s why I love the 12, because it’s a better version of the 4-5. I waited a long time to upgrade because I didn’t like the models for a few years either, but the newest ones are fantastic.
91 Tech’s videos are the digital equivalent to comfort food 😮💨😌
great video Josh
Because it's The first iPhone comes with lightning connector and was also launching ios 7 that tim was so unique user interfaces, 5 sized like so much handy and Starting of new size
Personally, I consider the iPhone 6 through the 11 the same design language. Yes you have the new full screen display, but the frame and design was still too similar to the iPhone 6 with the same rounded edges and camera bump. Now the iPhone 12, that's a new design language for sure
Technicallyy is the iPhone 4
Because Steve Jobs had a size standard, and the iPhone 5 (even if today is too small) but back then it grew the size that job stablished as perfect
iPhone 6, 7, 8, X, and 11 on the other hand, grew so much and their design looked as normal androids
And don't let me start with the design of iOS 7 and next ones... Too simple, too minimalistic. Previous iOS design were so recognisable and distinctive
i really miss that form factor i’m thinking of buying an se 1 lol
iPhone 5 SE is all I need. 🌿
The iphone 5 was my favorite size of iphone. Even my 12 mini is bigger that my old 5s.
Although Steve Jobs may not have designed EVERY iPhone, I bet that he still loves where Apple is and it’s phones. He’d be so proud to see the flat edges on the most recent iPhones.
I much preferred the old realistic looking icons, actually. And I still think the 5 series was the perfect form factor. And that's coming from someone who watches a ton of mobile video.
I wish Steve was still alive today. So he can see and be pissed how his employees fcked up the phones. One of the example of this is the removing the headphone jack. Steve is an Audiophile so removing the jack would not cross his mind. Even though I've own the iPhone 6s, 7, 7 Plus, and 8plus, I've found myself being satisfied and more pleased on the 5's design NGL
You actually make a lot of sense
Make it SE - 6s in 5s body :)