Taking a closer look at the Seagate ST157-A

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  • Опубликовано: 24 мар 2022
  • This is the same drive which I did a short video on a while ago, with the cover taken off.
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  • @alexanderulyev4651
    @alexanderulyev4651 2 месяца назад +5

    Mechanics turning into digits is so exciting!

  • @timconnors
    @timconnors 2 месяца назад +8

    Utterly insane that we expected these to last billions of cycles of the heads being moved back and forth between extremes at 100Hz. Madness, I tell you.

  • @xenuno
    @xenuno 2 года назад +85

    That is such beautiful example of electro-mechanical precision. Well done

    • @randomyt666
      @randomyt666 Год назад +1

      Modern hard drives are so precise changing the torque on a screw can cause problems

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад

      @@randomyt666 This drive is so precise that it is operating without it's cover completely open loop (without any feedback or track following at all).

  • @realist77777
    @realist77777 7 месяцев назад +17

    This is from a time when programmers thought about every bit of memory and there was nothing superfluous in programs.

    • @kreuner11
      @kreuner11 3 месяца назад +1

      Id say that was the C64 days, by this period you could start leaving more and more junk in easily

  • @Tadesan
    @Tadesan 10 месяцев назад +12

    I really like string drive mechanisms like that!

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +4

      String drive? This, like most motor-actuated hard disks, uses a steel rotary band actuator. It's made of a flat strip of steel cut into two halves which wraps around the capstan on the stepper's output shaft.

  • @Cinnimin
    @Cinnimin 7 месяцев назад +7

    i like this drive it looks like a guy driving a big bicycle

  • @silasmcgee3647
    @silasmcgee3647 Год назад +31

    That actuator arm was jumping around so fast that it was out maneuvering the cameras Max frame rate

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +3

      That's not unusual for any drive

    • @Denis7947.
      @Denis7947. 4 месяца назад

      ​@@TheDiskMasteryea it has to read sectors

  • @Skibidi_Male_X
    @Skibidi_Male_X Год назад +1

    Great video.

  • @iruelkr
    @iruelkr Месяц назад

    great video!!

  • @squid13579
    @squid13579 Год назад +10

    This is just 3600 rpm ! Think about 7200 rpm ! 🔥🔥🔥

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +9

      There are plenty of drives out there that have even higher spindle speeds, of 10,000RPM and 15,000RPM!

  • @RavinduBandaranayake
    @RavinduBandaranayake 2 года назад

    ❤️

  • @user-jm2vj6xx1c
    @user-jm2vj6xx1c 8 месяцев назад +1

    عمل جيد
    nice work

  • @compu85
    @compu85 6 месяцев назад

    If you're going to run a drive open, keep the platters vertical. It stops dust landing on them.

  • @matthewsvideos8235
    @matthewsvideos8235 Год назад +1

    I have one of these still in good shape.

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад

      Seagate sold an awful lot of them

  • @rsmrsm2000
    @rsmrsm2000 11 месяцев назад +1

    please more videos

  • @PplsChampion
    @PplsChampion 10 месяцев назад +3

    using the ribbon of metal instead of a gear or something is interesting

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +5

      The steel rotary band is the standard method of actuation for almost all motor-driven hard disk drives. Very few use gears because they introduce slack into the mechanism and force the motor to turn faster, shortening the useful life of the drive.

  • @Uruglot
    @Uruglot 6 месяцев назад

    Forgotten technology =)

  • @atauenis
    @atauenis Год назад +6

    Elderly IDE monster. I'm have such. They're almost unkillable. Too many bad sectors? Do a low-level format, and it works again. :)

    • @matthewsvideos8235
      @matthewsvideos8235 Год назад

      Can’t low level format an IDE drive. Only MFM and RLL drives.

    • @atauenis
      @atauenis Год назад

      @@matthewsvideos8235 , I know, it's not a full LLF, but such named feature from 386 BIOS works and helps.

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +4

      @@matthewsvideos8235 None of this is true. Almost all motor actuated IDE drives can be low level formatted, and Seagate even had a tool specifically for formatting these drives, called SGTFMT.
      Even if that were true, almost all SCSI drives support the LLF command and all ESDI drives require it just as ST-506 and ST-412 interface drives do.

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@atauenisIt is a full LLF and it does exactly what it says on the tin.

    • @matthewsvideos8235
      @matthewsvideos8235 9 месяцев назад

      @@TheDiskMaster Generally I do not do a low level format on IDE drives with my 386. I only do it on the worst of the drives as an absolute last resort if the drive is going to end up in the dead bin. Some have been successful. I have a few to try it on, but don't think they will work again.

  • @JimAntonopoulos
    @JimAntonopoulos Год назад +1

    What is the program you used?

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +5

      The first program shown is a benchmarking utility called SpeedSys.

  • @jacquesb5248
    @jacquesb5248 Год назад +2

    i had a old seagate 10MB mfm drive and it's controller.....dunno if it still works as the controller is isa based

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +1

      It probably works already or can be revived. 10MB drives would most likely be one of the following:
      ST-412 ST-212 ST-213

  • @Sad_Bandy
    @Sad_Bandy 11 месяцев назад +2

    i just confused how hard drives back then can be working with no covers?

    • @computerguy096
      @computerguy096  10 месяцев назад +11

      You're not supposed to, dust can get in there and crash the heads. This one was already damaged beyond repair.

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +7

      Significantly wider tolerances allow them to operate for some time without a cover in clean environments.

    • @louf7178
      @louf7178 2 месяца назад

      @@computerguy096 What is the damage?

  • @incredable91
    @incredable91 Год назад

    ooh how did you this is much old

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад

      In theory, it will work with any machine that still includes an IDE controller. The ST-157A is well known for not being very compatible between IDE controllers, but otherwise it should not be difficult at all to make working of drive.

  • @TheDiskMaster
    @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +2

    Good ol ST-157A, they're picky about IDE controllers. Only drive to ever electrocute me personally. The ST-125 is easily one of the best 20MB ST-412 interface drives out there, simply due to it's robustness and auto parking.

  • @kentamccarter9580
    @kentamccarter9580 Год назад

    How big is this thing anyway?

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +3

      It is a 3.5" HH drive, as in, the chassis measures around 3.75x5.5x1 inch. If you're talking about data storage capacity, 42MB.

  • @neorandy
    @neorandy 10 месяцев назад

    40 MB MFM? FLASHBACK

    • @TheDiskMaster
      @TheDiskMaster 9 месяцев назад +1

      This is an IDE disk drive.

  • @fra93ilgrande
    @fra93ilgrande Год назад +1

    All modern HDDs still operate the same way 😍🔝

    • @rickastley2520
      @rickastley2520 Год назад +10

      not really they use voice coils

    • @randomyt666
      @randomyt666 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@rickastley2520came here to say this. Same principle, different actuator

  • @michaeloconnor7849
    @michaeloconnor7849 7 месяцев назад

    Witchcraft

  • @Aleksandr17124
    @Aleksandr17124 9 месяцев назад +1

    это че мастурбирует