Comments: 50 percent: “Wow, this is so cool!” “I remember seeing this as a kid, blew my mind.” “This is so aesthetic.” “Miss this old-school animation style.” 50 percent: “I PAY THE PRICE TO ROLL WITH IT, WASTE YOUR LIFE AND YOU WON’T GET IT, PLAYED OUT WITH NOWHERE TO GO GET IT, MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE A HO DON’T IT, KNOWN FOR IT"
This was the golden age of computer animation. I was humping to get into Pacific Data Images (now Dreamworks) as well as Pixar (which was largely medical imaging with a R&D department experimenting with animation and driven by Eben Ostby). These are the days of Tron and what now looks like very sterile images, but we were out of our minds that we could create images this way. Thank you soooo much for keeping this stuff around!!!
I hope to make an effective suggestion, but I think there's a saturation of productions that have a very shallow goal of achieving the look. I think if you, like me, want this style to take off again, there should be more focus on coupling it with a higher goal of making more than a novelty. Take this exact animation style and apply a rich backstory, lore, characters, plot, and music, and I bet it will shift the paradigm of the gaming industry.
This is one of the early CG short films that inspired me to pursue a career in computer animation. Unfortunately, I have only a 20-year-old VHS copy of it. This is the result of transferring it using the best industrial SVHS deck I could find in conjunction with a timebase corrector and inverse telecine processing. At least the color is fairly decent. Hopefully a better version will eventually surface...
You could be dead for all I know, but do you or anyone else have more information on the making of this production? This is so fascinating to me that I've become nearly obsessed with knowing more. I even bought an SGI Indy to be able to replicate the CGI of the 80s and 90s on real hardware.
I remember first seeing this particular animation on some PBS documentary in the early nineties. And even then it blew my mind as to how amazing computer graphics could be, even at that time in the mid-1980s. We've come a long way since then, of course, but watching this, 30+ years after its creation, still impresses me no end.
Very cool to see this again. I was a hardware Engineer at Apollo at the time, and I believe my workstation was one of those used in the nightly render work. I hope I get to see some of the creators of this video tonight at the annual Apollo Alumni reunion at the Westford Regency!
That is amazing. I know it's been 1.6 decades since you posted that, but do you remember what workstation you had and which ones Apollo used? I wonder if the original program and files are still out there. If you ever see your colleagues again, let them know that at least one millennial will always appreciate all your hard work in computer graphics.
@@sammiches2555 We used to have yearly reunions at the Westford Regency in Westford....until COVID that is....and even then, we did one via ZOOM. I don't remember my nodes name.....it wasn't as good of a name as some of my friends systems.....like //slash (said slash slash slash) or //backslash. Anyways, I think it was sort of "all hands on deck" when this movie was being rendered. so anyone not running overnight simulations were probably going to enlist their mode to the job. (I sort of recall that it was clear it was going to be an important accomplishment if it succeeded)
I remember seeing this short in "The Mind's Eye", I've always wondered what the source material was. Thanks so much, you definitely made part of my childhood complete in solving this mystery.
What a fantastic job you and your coworkers did creating a perfect synthesis of music and animation. I first saw this as part of the special Computer Animation Magic aired on PBS in the late 80s on a gorgeously vibrant CRT TV. A true landmark of CGI! I'll never forget it.
Loved this as a kid, the imagery was so striking and even back then I loved CGI! These early pioneers were amazing, but even say ten years previously from now an ordinary PC could run it in realtime.
Thanks for posting this. Even though the sophistication that goes into something like Cars 2 is on a higher level, they're just standing on the shoulders of the people who did this. So much cool stuff was happening in the 80's. And the fact that few people knew about it, you had to seek out obscure animation festivals and midnight movies only made it cooler.
dunes yeah, now i know where this animation came from. i remember seeing this in "the mind's eye" in a computer class i was in. i loved that tape and i ended up bying that one and the other release called "beyond the minds eye".
Hopefully that will never happen. All the information here is priceless, in particular the comments made by the animation team. Sad news about Dr. Arvo; fifty-five is much too young. I've been scouring the net reading about his accomplishments, thanks to the comment posted by Mr. Hinckley.
now imagine if Mario Bros encountered this dimension instead of the mushroom kingdom universe 0.0 that would be digitally cool and creative other level, no?
It's an interesting thought, but their interactions with things so abstract removes the personification from the possible world characters. Maybe if they also turn into vaguely human blocks of creation.
I was pretty startled to discover this on RUclips, although I wish there were a higher quality version available. I wrote a texture/pattern editor specifically for this project; it was used for creating some of the textures and patterns in the movie. All the software for designing the scenes, rendering the frames, and distributing the work had to be created from scratch. And while a modern PC could certainly do this, even now it probably wouldn't use pure raytracing for rendering. It's too slow.
You've made such terrific contributions to the field of computer graphics, Dr. Arvo! It must have been fun working on this film back in the day. I'm so glad you don't mind my posting the video.
I remember seeing this on a PBS documentary about computer grafix, yes 20 years ago. I remember because silly 8 year old me thought it would be nice to copy this for a school art project. 5000 man-hours my ass.
There are two computer animations I'm dying to find... one of a girl in leopardskin diving from a pyramid and morphing into a butterfly from about 1989 and another about plants firing out huge clumps of pollen made of polygons which I think was done on a Thinking Machine's computer. If you know where to find them, please post!
You've probably already found what you're looking for, but the first one is called "The Little Death" by Symbolics. No clue about the second, but lemme know if you found it!
@@t_k_blitz4837 Yes, thank you, you are right, that is what I meant. Here is the other one: ruclips.net/video/ZRHH6Y6iggo/видео.html It is amazing this is the first I have seen if your reply, and even more amazing that I wrote my comment when I was in my late 30s and now I am in my early 50s.
Thanks. You could probably send a DMCA takedown notice and get this version removed, but please don't... it would be a shame to lose some of the great comments here. Dr. Arvo has passed away and won't be posting again.
This film is available on a DVD called COMPUTER ANIMATION CLASSICS. However, I rented it and found the quality to be only marginally better than this version, plus it's horizontally squeezed a bit and the credits are lopped off (even before the word "apollo" is formed at the end). Thumbs down...
1:39 , Is there a name for this genre of music? I’ve always enjoyed music that sounds like this, but I don’t know what it’s classified as, so it’s hard to find.
![Lil Uzi Vert - We Good [Official Audio]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/DrSfBULAsek/mqdefault.jpg)
makes you feel like a whole donut
Makes you feel like a wheel
what a great animation. i'm sure the animators are known for it
Ew a furry. Me too 🤝
makes me wonder who made my profile picture...
They paid the price to roll with it
2:09 KNOWN FOR IT
gottem
You were early
Comments:
50 percent: “Wow, this is so cool!” “I remember seeing this as a kid, blew my mind.” “This is so aesthetic.” “Miss this old-school animation style.”
50 percent: “I PAY THE PRICE TO ROLL WITH IT, WASTE YOUR LIFE AND YOU WON’T GET IT, PLAYED OUT WITH NOWHERE TO GO GET IT, MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE A HO DON’T IT, KNOWN FOR IT"
Wow, this is so cool!
came here for 2, stayed for 1
watching the second second time really shows how crazy this animation is
holy shit andy has a good eye for detail
you mean a good *EAR* ??
I know I've seen footage of this before, it sounds familiar.
Donald McDonald I stay noided
@@Selva_313 I'VE SEEN FOOTAGE, KNOWN FOR IT! BEHAVE OR BE SLAYED, AS SHIVA'S SLASHING THROUGH
Maybe Death Grips- Known For It
You still alive btw?
I first saw this years ago as part of a video called The Mind's Eye.
@@bensakschek615Here from that, too. Those movies were such a huge part of my early childhood-I wish they could get a Blu-Ray release someday.
i only came here for 7 notes, but i actually like the video?
I count six.
EDIT: You're right, seven. The last one trails off the last time the riff is repeated
Anybody know what the notes are?
@@synthmalicious7541 it’s the melody of the instrumental
@@synthmalicious7541 it’s the melody of the instrumental
I PAY THE PRICE TO ROLL
WITH IT
2:10 feelin n o i d e d
CUZ I
AM
*KNOWN FOR IT*
This was the golden age of computer animation. I was humping to get into Pacific Data Images (now Dreamworks) as well as Pixar (which was largely medical imaging with a R&D department experimenting with animation and driven by Eben Ostby). These are the days of Tron and what now looks like very sterile images, but we were out of our minds that we could create images this way. Thank you soooo much for keeping this stuff around!!!
I really love this era of computer animation too, much of it is very psychedelic.
toy story was and it ended with up.
Medical imaging? That's kinda disturbing...
Really hope to bring back the aesthetic and spirit of that era in a future major project I’m with as a game development graduate! :)
I hope to make an effective suggestion, but I think there's a saturation of productions that have a very shallow goal of achieving the look. I think if you, like me, want this style to take off again, there should be more focus on coupling it with a higher goal of making more than a novelty. Take this exact animation style and apply a rich backstory, lore, characters, plot, and music, and I bet it will shift the paradigm of the gaming industry.
This makes me feel like a whole donut
This is one of the early CG short films that inspired me to pursue a career in computer animation. Unfortunately, I have only a 20-year-old VHS copy of it. This is the result of transferring it using the best industrial SVHS deck I could find in conjunction with a timebase corrector and inverse telecine processing. At least the color is fairly decent. Hopefully a better version will eventually surface...
All these years later, tell us what you are up to these days
You could be dead for all I know, but do you or anyone else have more information on the making of this production? This is so fascinating to me that I've become nearly obsessed with knowing more. I even bought an SGI Indy to be able to replicate the CGI of the 80s and 90s on real hardware.
i love the idea that this incredibly abstract geometric animation was "based on a story". ha ha. very cool flash to the past and nice work everyone
Trippy stuff. Definitely Known for it
Love that synth.
All this early computer animation makes me feel like a ho. Don't it?
I remember first seeing this particular animation on some PBS documentary in the early nineties. And even then it blew my mind as to how amazing computer graphics could be, even at that time in the mid-1980s. We've come a long way since then, of course, but watching this, 30+ years after its creation, still impresses me no end.
Very cool to see this again. I was a hardware Engineer at Apollo at the time, and I believe my workstation was one of those used in the nightly render work.
I hope I get to see some of the creators of this video tonight at the annual Apollo Alumni reunion at the Westford Regency!
That is amazing. I know it's been 1.6 decades since you posted that, but do you remember what workstation you had and which ones Apollo used? I wonder if the original program and files are still out there. If you ever see your colleagues again, let them know that at least one millennial will always appreciate all your hard work in computer graphics.
@@sammiches2555 We used to have yearly reunions at the Westford Regency in Westford....until COVID that is....and even then, we did one via ZOOM. I don't remember my nodes name.....it wasn't as good of a name as some of my friends systems.....like //slash (said slash slash slash) or //backslash. Anyways, I think it was sort of "all hands on deck" when this movie was being rendered. so anyone not running overnight simulations were probably going to enlist their mode to the job. (I sort of recall that it was clear it was going to be an important accomplishment if it succeeded)
I liked the whimsical and experimental nature of these early CGI films. They don't make 'em like they used to
this song is known for known for it 😍
KNOWN FOR IT
BEEN THRU IT
DONE EVERYTHING THAT I CAN TO IT
I remember seeing this short in "The Mind's Eye", I've always wondered what the source material was. Thanks so much, you definitely made part of my childhood complete in solving this mystery.
KNOWN FOR IT
HAD TO DO IT
2:10 DEATH GRIPS
Oh that's what all these "known for it" comments are referencing. I was so confused.
I grew up in the early 00s but I want to cry when I watch stuff like this.
There's something that's strangely calming about the music. :D
this made me cry 3 times
how the fuck did they find this for a sample
What a fantastic job you and your coworkers did creating a perfect synthesis of music and animation. I first saw this as part of the special Computer Animation Magic aired on PBS in the late 80s on a gorgeously vibrant CRT TV. A true landmark of CGI! I'll never forget it.
My dad and mom worked at Apollo...Without you guys there wouldnt be graphics AT ALL, amazing work...
Cuz I. am. known for it
Loved this as a kid, the imagery was so striking and even back then I loved CGI! These early pioneers were amazing, but even say ten years previously from now an ordinary PC could run it in realtime.
I actually have an original copy of this on VHS tape that I got when I was working at Apollo...
More than holds up today, if only stuff like that was still made...
Who did the music? It's absolutely amazing!
This is true high art.
2:10 THERE IS THE DEATH GRIPS SAMPLE!
When digital animation was still such a novelty that the graphics alone without narrative was considered worth producing as a short film.
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Thanks for posting this. Even though the sophistication that goes into something like Cars 2 is on a higher level, they're just standing on the shoulders of the people who did this. So much cool stuff was happening in the 80's. And the fact that few people knew about it, you had to seek out obscure animation festivals and midnight movies only made it cooler.
SO VAPORWAVE
dunes yeah, now i know where this animation came from. i remember seeing this in "the mind's eye" in a computer class i was in. i loved that tape and i ended up bying that one and the other release called "beyond the minds eye".
makes you feel like a whole
Dont it?
I pay the price to roll with it
I roll the nickels--oh, wait.
WOW!I remember seeing this on a VHS tape about computer animation,it was really something!
I've been looking for this animation forever; I can't believe it's actually here!
Hopefully that will never happen. All the information here is priceless, in particular the comments made by the animation team. Sad news about Dr. Arvo; fifty-five is much too young. I've been scouring the net reading about his accomplishments, thanks to the comment posted by Mr. Hinckley.
How wonderfully surreal
now imagine if Mario Bros encountered this dimension instead of the mushroom kingdom universe 0.0 that would be digitally cool and creative other level, no?
It's an interesting thought, but their interactions with things so abstract removes the personification from the possible world characters. Maybe if they also turn into vaguely human blocks of creation.
A Long Day's Journey Into Night is also an excellent play
I was pretty startled to discover this on RUclips, although I wish there were a higher quality version available. I wrote a texture/pattern editor specifically for this project; it was used for creating some of the textures and patterns in the movie. All the software for designing the scenes, rendering the frames, and distributing the work had to be created from scratch. And while a modern PC could certainly do this, even now it probably wouldn't use pure raytracing for rendering. It's too slow.
Raytracing is back my man
do i have some good news for you
You've made such terrific contributions to the field of computer graphics, Dr. Arvo! It must have been fun working on this film back in the day. I'm so glad you don't mind my posting the video.
God this is so V A P O R W A V E
_ _ more what vaporwave wants to be.
Nah this is noided
extremely nostalgic
I want to visit there
This is the best part of the Mind's Eye (1.) Certainly the best music part.
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Death Grips Known For It might or might not have send you here.
Those synths
I like the music
Back when CGI animation was still new and exciting
This is great
Bring this back as a skittles commercial or some shit
I remember seeing this on a PBS documentary about computer grafix, yes 20 years ago. I remember because silly 8 year old me thought it would be nice to copy this for a school art project. 5000 man-hours my ass.
Yes, it was more poetic and artistic than most of CG of today.
The limitations probably prevent the big companies to want "realizm"...
0:37 the birth of PlayStation
git it
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Here from death grips ex military
There are two computer animations I'm dying to find... one of a girl in leopardskin diving from a pyramid and morphing into a butterfly from about 1989 and another about plants firing out huge clumps of pollen made of polygons which I think was done on a Thinking Machine's computer. If you know where to find them, please post!
You've probably already found what you're looking for, but the first one is called "The Little Death" by Symbolics. No clue about the second, but lemme know if you found it!
@@t_k_blitz4837 Yes, thank you, you are right, that is what I meant.
Here is the other one:
ruclips.net/video/ZRHH6Y6iggo/видео.html
It is amazing this is the first I have seen if your reply, and even more amazing that I wrote my comment when I was in my late 30s and now I am in my early 50s.
Excellent. I want to know more!
2:10 death grips??
Thanks. You could probably send a DMCA takedown notice and get this version removed, but please don't... it would be a shame to lose some of the great comments here. Dr. Arvo has passed away and won't be posting again.
This film is available on a DVD called COMPUTER ANIMATION CLASSICS. However, I rented it and found the quality to be only marginally better than this version, plus it's horizontally squeezed a bit and the credits are lopped off (even before the word "apollo" is formed at the end). Thumbs down...
Yeah! But think about how hard it was back then. Only the imagination could do the trick.
1:39 , Is there a name for this genre of music? I’ve always enjoyed music that sounds like this, but I don’t know what it’s classified as, so it’s hard to find.
"Chiptunes", "8-bit", or "1980s synth" would get you close...
Thanks! I’ll give it a shot.
Don't it.
Nobody:
The bowling alley screen when you get a strike:
This *m o o d*
However i still be amazed. But not in modern CGI animations.
Where do I find more like this?
Looks like the world that inspired the show Reboot.
Am I the only guy on earth that thinks they have the shapes from Squid Game? :0
Technical Director Jim Arvo has died. I can't seem to put a link here, but you can Google "jim arvo obituary"
AAAEEEESSTTHHETIIC...
@jrarvo RLY?
haha nice
@cc213t this version is better than a cleaner one
Well that sucks.
Is this what vaporwave is?
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