I used to love Viz magazine . Long time since l've read one but l remember these two. And Buster Gonad and was it Johnny Fartpants....? I'm a 64yr old Nan and remember laughing with my nephew about this. I'm sure I'd still roar up now. My mantra: "If you haven't grown up by the age of 64 - you don't have to!"!!!!😂
Wow I think it's been a good 30yrs since watching this...I'm sure I got this on video in my teens at Christmas as I used to love reading the Viz... I've haven't read them in years either.
The Fat Slags is a British comic strip appearing in the alternative British comic Viz. The characters made their debut in 1989, their first appearance being in issue 36. The eponymous slags are Sandra Burke and Tracey Tunstall, known to other characters as San and Tray. They are depicted as overweight, eating large amounts of food, mainly chips, while also having a lot of casual sex. As with other Viz strips, the strip's authors use a brash writing style. "Slag" is a British English word for "slut", or loose woman. Activities The Slags' eating frequently follows a night of binge drinking, and the circumstances of the sex or the partner in question are rarely an issue - they have been known to leap on delivery men or workmen for gratification, with the targeted man rarely given an opportunity to resist or escape. Both slags regularly enjoy carnal relations with Baz (full name Barry Askwith, seemingly as a nod to the actor Robin Askwith), a local jobless dropout who divides his time between drinking, committing crime, and having sex with San and Tray. Baz's good-natured wife, Thelma Haystacks-Askwith (daughter of Horace Haystacks), often finds out that Baz is cheating on her, but invariably forgives him. The other major character in the strip is Baz's slightly more successful friend, Dave, who works as a refuse collector but obtains most of his income through benefit fraud. Whilst most Viz characters are recognisably from North East England, with the comic largely written in Geordie dialect, the Fat Slags and their friends converse with a Nottingham accent. This originates with the characters' creator Graham Dury who, unlike the Geordie founder of Viz, is originally from that area.[2] Both characters are noticeably warm-hearted and easy-going, and their friendship is never undermined by their conquests. Although both of the Slags are somewhat stupid - albeit good-natured - nymphomaniacs, Tray is marginally more intelligent and literate than San, who is marginally more nymphomaniacal than Tray. These factors, combined with Tray's more dominant personality, make Tray the leader and San the follower in their adventures. One strip parodying the Batman films featured Tray as Batslag and San as Nobbin. In another strip, San got pregnant and brought the baby to term, tearfully vowing that she was prepared to make any sacrifice for her daughter's happiness. In the very next panel, realising that motherhood would conflict with her pub-crawling, she gave up the baby for adoption. Tray normally wears tight-fitting Capri pants whilst San normally wears a too-small skirt; since the latter garment has more potential for jokes, San tends to get involved in more slapstick than Tray does. Although neither Slag has ever refused alcoholic refreshment in any setting, their favourite place to tipple is the "Dog and Hammer" pub, somewhere in Fulchester. Their run-down home - with its floor-level collection of alcohol cans, takeaway containers and cigarette butts - is at 22, Shit Street, Fulchester, which once featured as a porcelain model marketed by Viz in parody of products such as those of Franklin Mint. A running gag is that the Slags will accuse any men unwilling to sleep with them of being homosexuals and/or having small penises, and many other women of being unattractive and overweight. Social context Their excessive lifestyle is a parody of British ladette culture.[3] Viz creator Chris Donald refers to this in his book, where he also mentions that the portrayal of the Slags was criticised by feminists writing in the Guardian newspaper. At the time of these criticisms the Fat Slags had not appeared in the comic for more than a year, but as a direct response to the criticism they were immediately resurrected for the next issue, in which they had a humorous run-in with the feminist Millie Tant.[4] Donald later questioned why the Guardian had slated the portrayals of the Slags, but had not mentioned that the two male characters were portrayed as a cheating layabout and a fraudster, and that the strip's only "well-behaved" character, Thelma, was a woman. Tunnel Boring Machines to construct the Jubilee underground line in London ("fat slugs") were named after the Fat Slags.
I think it would remind people about a sense of homour. My cousin introduced us to this when we are very young. What a laugh we use to have. We had to keep rewinding the tape cos we missed so much from laughter. Ah the good old days.
@@Rg-mv4if unfortunately not pal, the cancel culture would screech and screech till they had their way. You and I can still enjoy it because we will always have a sense of humour and realise it's just that, humour. That said we all knew a pair of fat slags in the 80's.😆
@@Rg-mv4if Aye, for sure pal, much more freedom. I legally owned assault rifles and pistols in the 80's. It seems like a lifetime ago. Me and the wife still have a laugh and my mates to be honest. We just don't want to be told what to do by some virtue signalling teen. Glad I live in the Highlands as it's still relatively sane here.
Beginning of lock down I sat with my mum and watched them all. I have never seen my mum laugh so much. Mum is also a Kathy Burke fan. The woman who plays Trey was on a book chat show I could not help but think of the slags.
I met Sandra in Ilfracombe, Devon. It was about the love , we shared an emotional connection. The other girl led her astray. Neither lass was house trained. I was young.
I watched this as a kid, around 12. They weren’t intended for me and I wasn’t allowed but I watched them anyway 🤣 this was in the 90s though, different times back then lol
Ironically they sound rather well-spoken in 2024. And they even asked the roadmen nicely and offered something in return rather than just assuming they're entitled to free sandwiches or scamming them in the fashion of modern times. Huh.
My favorite uncle was a lithographer , printer . He was a very wonderful uncle who loved his job . He was the best printer in town from what I've heard . Everyone loved him . He passed away in 2010 . I miss him so much . RIP Uncle Edward ⚘️
Sshhh! I'm watching this before they get home ;) My daughter took one of my Viz annuals to school to show her mates. I got a phone call at work from one of her teachers. He said, since he'd met me and thought I looked fairly respectable, he didn't believe her when she said it was mine! Anyway, he kept it in his desk and gave it back to me at the following parents' evening, double wrapped in brown envelopes.
I remember when I was an apprentice and I took a copy of viz to work. Some of my olde work colleagues read it and wet themselves with laughter, especially at Sid the Sexist. Kids today just don’t know what to laugh at
This is classic British comedy at its best. Thank god for RUclips. Why this isn't repeated on TV I will never know. Unfortunately the woke brigade does not understand the concept of tongue and cheek.
Germaine Greer was asked if this was sexist. She said, it's only sexist if it isn't true and you only have to look in the streets on a Saturday night to know these women exist.
Only sadly at least one generation have had a sense of humour lobotomy when it comes to this sort of stuff now. The easily offended should be tied to a chair in a room with their fellow miseries and forced to watch this on a continuous loop.😂👍
A guy I was going out with had this video, I thought it was hilarious. I told him to hide it from my kids. Well yeah one found it. She tried to shame me for watching this . 😂 we still laugh about it .
Spooky. I ended up finding some copies of Viz the other week I had in storage for years. And now this suddenly appears on YT 😂 Yeah, don't make like this anymore
For the first time in my life I'm at a loss as to which emoji to use to describe my current feelings towards this video... I'd completely forgotten about VIZ and the likes of Roger Melly The Man On Tele etc and I definitely wasn't aware of the fact that there were VIZ videos on RUclips! I fucking love this shit anyway so yeah 😂😲😳😈😍🤣😶
Good to see the body positive movement was around way before TikTok
What’s a TikTok? Do you mean that song by Kesha? Idk if the lyrics are about body positivity
@@jazzingpanda3190it’s a app where u can watch videos just like musicly and vine
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@@jazzingpanda3190 yo that song goes harrrrrrd lol man, bringing back memories of good times
I used to love Viz magazine .
Long time since l've read one but l remember these two. And Buster Gonad and was it Johnny Fartpants....?
I'm a 64yr old Nan and remember laughing with my nephew about this. I'm sure I'd still roar up now.
My mantra: "If you haven't grown up by the age of 64 - you don't have to!"!!!!😂
Buster Gonad and his Infeasibly Large Testicles..
Narcotic Norman.
Biffa Bacon, Roger Mellie, Suicidal Sid, are a few more
Can't forget Billy no mates and sid the sexist
@@rawrwata5289 Roger Mellie, The man on the Telly..
Wow I think it's been a good 30yrs since watching this...I'm sure I got this on video in my teens at Christmas as I used to love reading the Viz... I've haven't read them in years either.
I saw these two this morning in Costa coffee. They ordered a lot of food.
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I hope it wasn't me and my mum lol because we go to costa every Wednesday in Scotland 😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Fat Slags is a British comic strip appearing in the alternative British comic Viz. The characters made their debut in 1989, their first appearance being in issue 36. The eponymous slags are Sandra Burke and Tracey Tunstall, known to other characters as San and Tray. They are depicted as overweight, eating large amounts of food, mainly chips, while also having a lot of casual sex. As with other Viz strips, the strip's authors use a brash writing style. "Slag" is a British English word for "slut", or loose woman.
Activities
The Slags' eating frequently follows a night of binge drinking, and the circumstances of the sex or the partner in question are rarely an issue - they have been known to leap on delivery men or workmen for gratification, with the targeted man rarely given an opportunity to resist or escape. Both slags regularly enjoy carnal relations with Baz (full name Barry Askwith, seemingly as a nod to the actor Robin Askwith), a local jobless dropout who divides his time between drinking, committing crime, and having sex with San and Tray. Baz's good-natured wife, Thelma Haystacks-Askwith (daughter of Horace Haystacks), often finds out that Baz is cheating on her, but invariably forgives him. The other major character in the strip is Baz's slightly more successful friend, Dave, who works as a refuse collector but obtains most of his income through benefit fraud.
Whilst most Viz characters are recognisably from North East England, with the comic largely written in Geordie dialect, the Fat Slags and their friends converse with a Nottingham accent. This originates with the characters' creator Graham Dury who, unlike the Geordie founder of Viz, is originally from that area.[2]
Both characters are noticeably warm-hearted and easy-going, and their friendship is never undermined by their conquests. Although both of the Slags are somewhat stupid - albeit good-natured - nymphomaniacs, Tray is marginally more intelligent and literate than San, who is marginally more nymphomaniacal than Tray. These factors, combined with Tray's more dominant personality, make Tray the leader and San the follower in their adventures. One strip parodying the Batman films featured Tray as Batslag and San as Nobbin. In another strip, San got pregnant and brought the baby to term, tearfully vowing that she was prepared to make any sacrifice for her daughter's happiness. In the very next panel, realising that motherhood would conflict with her pub-crawling, she gave up the baby for adoption.
Tray normally wears tight-fitting Capri pants whilst San normally wears a too-small skirt; since the latter garment has more potential for jokes, San tends to get involved in more slapstick than Tray does. Although neither Slag has ever refused alcoholic refreshment in any setting, their favourite place to tipple is the "Dog and Hammer" pub, somewhere in Fulchester. Their run-down home - with its floor-level collection of alcohol cans, takeaway containers and cigarette butts - is at 22, Shit Street, Fulchester, which once featured as a porcelain model marketed by Viz in parody of products such as those of Franklin Mint.
A running gag is that the Slags will accuse any men unwilling to sleep with them of being homosexuals and/or having small penises, and many other women of being unattractive and overweight.
Social context
Their excessive lifestyle is a parody of British ladette culture.[3] Viz creator Chris Donald refers to this in his book, where he also mentions that the portrayal of the Slags was criticised by feminists writing in the Guardian newspaper. At the time of these criticisms the Fat Slags had not appeared in the comic for more than a year, but as a direct response to the criticism they were immediately resurrected for the next issue, in which they had a humorous run-in with the feminist Millie Tant.[4] Donald later questioned why the Guardian had slated the portrayals of the Slags, but had not mentioned that the two male characters were portrayed as a cheating layabout and a fraudster, and that the strip's only "well-behaved" character, Thelma, was a woman.
Tunnel Boring Machines to construct the Jubilee underground line in London ("fat slugs") were named after the Fat Slags.
American here... never heard of it til now, but I love it!
Style reminds me of Wallace & Gromit.
The Cilla Black impression is perfect RIP. I have no idea why youtube bought me here though...i was watching volcano's and gold panning...
Lol. I was watching Heavy metal music videos. Then this thing turns up. Lol
😂
Class!😂 - sometimes them algorithm thingies are a blessing!😃👍
I was watching spiritual readings ..
anyhow always worth a butchers and a laugh
I was watching Countdown numbers rounds.
British Culture- at it's finest!! Loved it..!
I think it would remind people about a sense of homour. My cousin introduced us to this when we are very young. What a laugh we use to have. We had to keep rewinding the tape cos we missed so much from laughter. Ah the good old days.
Can you imagine trying to put this on now. Saturday tv there would be a national meltdown 😂😂😂😂
Death by laughter I hope
@@Rg-mv4if unfortunately not pal, the cancel culture would screech and screech till they had their way. You and I can still enjoy it because we will always have a sense of humour and realise it's just that, humour. That said we all knew a pair of fat slags in the 80's.😆
Spot on. Look on the bright side. We had the best of it anyway!
@@Rg-mv4if Aye, for sure pal, much more freedom. I legally owned assault rifles and pistols in the 80's. It seems like a lifetime ago. Me and the wife still have a laugh and my mates to be honest. We just don't want to be told what to do by some virtue signalling teen. Glad I live in the Highlands as it's still relatively sane here.
That's right. Policy driven by children. Of course you can vote at 16 up here . You couldn't make it up.
Beginning of lock down I sat with my mum and watched them all. I have never seen my mum laugh so much. Mum is also a Kathy Burke fan. The woman who plays Trey was on a book chat show I could not help but think of the slags.
There is not much information about the woman who voiced Tracey I looked and not much at all but does Kathy Burke really talk like Sandra
Jo Unwin is Trey voice actor aliases for this Viz series.
YOU WATCHED THIS WITH YOUR MUM???? DX im like uncomfortable viewing this. lol
I was expecting fictional comedy, instead I get a documentary about chavs.
I met Sandra in Ilfracombe, Devon. It was about the love , we shared an emotional connection. The other girl led her astray.
Neither lass was house trained. I was young.
these two are from barnsley i have taken them home a few times
you must have good suspension. Or a dump truck.
😂😂😂😂
Same down south here in Pompey 😂
How you still alive
And I don't think they paid their taxi fare either? And didn't they try 2 pay U in kind? That was the word on the grapevine?
Could you imagine what would happen if this was released in today's day and age
Oh my god. That was a blast from the past. I remember the thrill of secretly passing a copy of Vis around the class at comprehensive school….
I watched this as a kid, around 12. They weren’t intended for me and I wasn’t allowed but I watched them anyway 🤣 this was in the 90s though, different times back then lol
90s were the best
@@ghostlylover99123 💯 miss those days
@@xToniMichellexI miss the last 50 yrs lol.
I love the Fat Slags...Viz is the funniest comic by far!!
Weirdest episode of Postman Pat ever?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 This comment wins the internet today!
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This brings back memories for me, i moved to Stockport from Essex in 1993 and first watched this at a friends house after a night out 😂😂
I can't believe I used to watch this as a child 😂
Ironically they sound rather well-spoken in 2024. And they even asked the roadmen nicely and offered something in return rather than just assuming they're entitled to free sandwiches or scamming them in the fashion of modern times. Huh.
Yep the old skool slagz had a lot more respect than these new age ones 😅
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What absolute, disgusting filth.
Are there any more episodes and where can I find them?
LOL 😂
Fecking great comment pal
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this is definitely the best episode
Well Postman Pat has gone up in class since I last watched it
I see them most days in the supermarket.
"Home Bargains" is full of them.
Yeh air heads pushing prams lol
@@TheAmazingAdventuresOfMiles full of them in the south wales valleys
And your mirror
@@curiositypiqued6573 Mirror mirror on the wall, who is the fairest of them all? I am ! (not a fat slag)
Fantastic my Dad's printing company used to print VIZ
My favorite uncle was a lithographer , printer . He was a very wonderful uncle who loved his job . He was the best printer in town from what I've heard . Everyone loved him . He passed away in 2010 . I miss him so much . RIP Uncle Edward ⚘️
If you want a good laugh in 2021, show this to your kids/grandkids and watch their faces 😂
Or better still, your mother-in-law!
@@rayjennings3637 perhaps they might show it on the BBC?
Bit odd, my daughter isn't one yet..
Lol grandkids
Sshhh! I'm watching this before they get home ;)
My daughter took one of my Viz annuals to school to show her mates. I got a phone call at work from one of her teachers. He said, since he'd met me and thought I looked fairly respectable, he didn't believe her when she said it was mine! Anyway, he kept it in his desk and gave it back to me at the following parents' evening, double wrapped in brown envelopes.
I remember when I was an apprentice and I took a copy of viz to work. Some of my olde work colleagues read it and wet themselves with laughter, especially at Sid the Sexist. Kids today just don’t know what to laugh at
I'm 66 and still love the "Viz" and had this on VHS.
Grow up
@@davepowell7168 Why you watching this video if you don't like Viz humour???
Nostalgia. Always fancied birds with out of my league and what is' Viz humour? '
Im 66 and love Viz, all the British accents have hidden meanings lots on foreigners.
The road side workman, Irish accent. = Manual labour.
The automatic subtitles were telling a whole different story of their own.
Love Kathy Burke xxx
My fave quote of theirs is " fancy a cream horn trace?" " I've already got one shaz, in me snatch" whilst being bent over the settee
When did u pass ur test what bucking test
Fantastic! This is real life. Love it. More please.
This explains alot to me while i was in UK lovely country rds had plastic bottles and rubbish along the way.
Thank you that was brill. Bought me right back to my VIZ reading days 😃
*Brought
San n Tray!
You can still buy the viz lol
As a Viz Fan at 47 ,It still gives me the EWWWWWWW Factor but it's a classic.
I use to read it going to work on the Train in the 80s, just laughing hysterically 🤣these, big vern, biffa bacon, all of em 🤣fantastic times
OMG I’ve met these two in real life, Vis got this soooo right.
What, and you survived?
There are more overweight women than Men so it's not surprising.
@@Hrodn an observation only, thank god.
You've met my niece's!!!!!!
culture at its highest
Comics are the best but this brings back good memories.
Man this is something else!! xD Damn good animation and voicing ^^ Thanks for uploading!
The wire coat hanger in the car aerial slot for car radio. I ad one of dem, never got nicked.
That was to detect ANYTHING in trousers.
Ahhh they don't make them how they used to. I remember watching this with an old school mate.
I originally had all these Fat Slags on VHS. Good times, before we all got wrapped up in cotton wool, and the PC brigade spoilt things 😄😄
T'was f'ooking brilliant!
Great to see Farmer Palmer and Jethro in this👍
This is classic British comedy at its best. Thank god for RUclips. Why this isn't repeated on TV I will never know. Unfortunately the woke brigade does not understand the concept of tongue and cheek.
I dont think you understand woke.
This series is ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS!!! 😂😂😂
Love this
Got a few of these lovely ladies in the town I live in
Thankyou for sharing this used to love it 😊
How did I go from watching snake facts to fat slags 🤣🤣😂😂😭😭😭 was dyin every minute of this 🤣🤣
Germaine Greer was asked if this was sexist. She said, it's only sexist if it isn't true and you only have to look in the streets on a Saturday night to know these women exist.
Still as funny as fk in 2023 😆 🤣 😂
Hello darlin, put yer thumb in here!! Love it, I had this on Vhs years ago. Great to see it again.
"I'm only twelve!"
This is the most depraved filth I've ever seen..............................Where can I buy the DVD?
😂
See them in Tesco all the time. Trollies full of crap.
Or ASDA
Lidl and Aldi too
That must be Kathy Burke as one of their voices.
I thought the same!!
@@claudnine6781 she’s an actress capable of impersonating and accent , it is Cathy Burke check the credits at the end
@@claudnine6781 must do better next time !
Anneka rice krispie sounded like ronni ancona
Sandra Burke must be Cathy's sister
Loved it, thanks for posting….happy memories!
Remember how the pigs do it Jethro.... That made me laugh.
The funny Kathy Burke voiced Sandra 😊
I can hear it now! My guesses Sandra is the one in the Purple as I can hear Kathy Burke in her 100% 😂
I kept picturing Linda La Hughes from gimme gimme gimme
VIZ was spot on & so accurate 😂👍🤔🇬🇧
5:35
I spy Leighton Buzzard on that map. No wonder they got lost: the map's for completely the wrong part of the country!
Why does everybody receive credit except for the animators in an animated film?
I had this on video, it was filmed in rubber panhandle vision.
Thanks to Emily Thornberry playing the role of San'.
Collector in the 80s & 90s. Happy times because everyone ate lard.
Lard sarnies
Do ya remember those 'Fun n Laughter' lard bars, from the 1980s?
These are great ! Would like to find more episodes.
French & Saunders would have been ideal for playing these two.
French and French more like
Nah, they are too woke now, French being too busy taking the knee for blm
@@maisieomara7563 In the fantastic Young Ones episode Time, Saunders was fat enough for such a role.
there both fucking shit
I always considered Dawn French and Jo Brand for the role in a live action adaptation of The Fat Slags.
Boris and pritt on another dirty weekend..
That brilliant but true. 😂
PERSONALLY I LIKE THE P.J.'s ( THE PROJECTS) 😊
It must be ten minutes since we stopped at that cafe 😂
LOL 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆 this was sure a blast😂😂😂😂😂 I didn’t know what was gonna happen😱😄😄😄😄😄😄😄🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 Thanks for sharing mate!👍🏼😂😂😂
1989 ... brilliant .. is 2024 .. nothing changed 🤣😂🤣😂
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Only sadly at least one generation have had a sense of humour lobotomy when it comes to this sort of stuff now. The easily offended should be tied to a chair in a room with their fellow miseries and forced to watch this on a continuous loop.😂👍
I remember watching these on VHS 📼 🤣
Eeewwwwwww loved the VIZ comic. This is really cringeworthy too .. love it!!!!
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Angela Rayner and Emily Thornberry?
@Dave Doherty 🤭👍🏻
Subtle comedy at finest.
"SUBTLE" .....wtf
Too subtle for some.
Very subtle!
Get off my land !
Asking Roger irrelevant for directions would have been the icing on the cake 👍
Oh to be young again!
Get your renegade aardvarks out of my custard!
@@jonjames7328 I would like 3 of them at the junction of the M25
We're is my taxi !
Good ol'family entertainment 😂.
Now I know why Cummings went to durham
So glad i found this clay serie ! Now am hookt !
Brilliantly correct
LMAO. ALL the 'Viz' characters are GREAT!
This is amazing honestly
Haha... humour that is banished from the history books now unfortunately
Me mam and dad had this video and they used to hide it from us 😆😆😆
Same 😂😂😂
A guy I was going out with had this video, I thought it was hilarious. I told him to hide it from my kids. Well yeah one found it. She tried to shame me for watching this . 😂 we still laugh about it .
Same but I’d sneak and watch it 😂😂
When brits adopt an american lifestyle.
@@gsesquire3441 I am not a brit for your information.
True we had slags way before America existed
I am a Brit and was going to point out we've had slags since the beginning.
just like the local women in the pubs in south Wales.?
you are right there mate, esp up the valleys
vikingsmb
that what 3/4 of the women look like in the UK
because there so fucking fat greedy slags.....
I met a couple of big chicks from Wales 25 years ago in Tenerife, one was called keisha. Nailed her on the balcony 0
Leroy brown no definitely Cornwall particularly liskeard
Where in the UK aren't the women built like Sumo wrestlers would be a better question...
I always remember the warning on the cover of Viz ...." Not to sold to children or Pets ."
Anneka Rice Crispy LOL.
Show this to Woke Mob, it's would be something else
OMG Make it so. Reaction video must
Maybe you should try Frankie Boyle, see how woke he is.
7:00 whoaaaaaa ok! 😂 Rude British humour truly knows no bounds 😂
Spooky. I ended up finding some copies of Viz the other week I had in storage for years. And now this suddenly appears on YT 😂
Yeah, don't make like this anymore
So glad yt sent this my way since I wasn’t allowed to watch when I was small 30 years ago 😂
This is a british r rated treasure
One of these was Wallace's Mum. Before he met Grommet.
Keep it classy 😂
For the first time in my life I'm at a loss as to which emoji to use to describe my current feelings towards this video... I'd completely forgotten about VIZ and the likes of Roger Melly The Man On Tele etc and I definitely wasn't aware of the fact that there were VIZ videos on RUclips! I fucking love this shit anyway so yeah 😂😲😳😈😍🤣😶
Wtf has my algorithm sent me too 😂😂😂
When the world was not so sensitive and PC. 😉
I wish they did more than just 3 episodes, it’s hilarious.
Poor hedgehog