Until you own an EV it is hard to appreciate how little DC charging speeds matter. You are always in the position of being able to leave home with a full battery. Unless you are planning to travel more than 350km in one trip then you don't even need to consider a stop and unless you are traveling more than 600km then the top up required is such that charging speed will not impact your rest/meal break. As for longer range, for the most part the even bigger battery is just more cost and weight. Most manufacturers are targeting similar or slightly less range.
re: "Until you own an EV it is hard to appreciate how little DC charging speeds matter. " yup, it's all marketing same as HP/TQ figures in ICE vehicles. we forget the goal of the manufacturers is the same as it's ALWAYS been, and that's to get us to buy THEIR product rather than the competition's product.
Unless you're driving in a country where legal speed limits are higher. I believe in the US speed limits are quite low. In Europe, plenty of countries have 120/130km/h speed limits. In my Model 3 I definitely notice that efficiency is much worse under these conditions. To attain that 350km range you mentioned, I would need a 500km range estimate, which would then drop to 350km of range at actual highway speed.
still using ABRP I see that I can go from Geneva to Saint-Nazaire with 3 stop of about 25 min with either an Audi e-tron, Tesla’s or Kia EV6 while we are talking 3 times 45 min with the Jaguar. In practice this means that if I buy the Jaguar I will plan a two day’s trip with overnight charging while with the e-tron and EV6 I will do just as I do now with my Lexus hybrid. I do this trip every year. OK I understand such long trip I only do 2-3 times per year but still
except when you're driving long distance. Being able to charge 20-80% as fast as possible is key, especially when you're realistically be charging often since your distance between charge is often only 60-70% of your max range (since you'll be charging to 80% anyways). Although I'd stress that its for cars that have 100+kWh of battery. Imagine if you have a bloody high kWh capacity yet your charging speed is limited at 100-120. You'd be sitting there for 40min+ just to get to 80%. And speaking of battery, I feel the main downside of the I-pace is its efficiency. I mean good job for them being able to cram 100+ kWh between those wheels, but all that for only 230miles EPA range? Most cars EV these days can do 270miles with 3/4 of that battery capacity.
Hi - think the max DC speed is now 125kw - I have got that out of my new black edition version that’s 6 weeks old. Charge curve isn’t great, unlike the etron which sits at 150kw, but the jag does drop to 80kw for a while when you are between 40-70/75%. For me, it’s the recharge rates that are becoming the differentiation points of these cars on longer journeys.
I notice thatJaguar have deleted the Jaguar motif from the front doors, a shame as they look good. Also they no longer supply new models with the centre console bottle holder cover.
good review ! However you should not trust Jaguar figures as to the trunk space, they are lying. The Audi e-tron has a bigger, not a smaller trunk. According to Bjorn Born banana box test, it can only take 6 while the Audi e-tron take 8 (7 for the e-tron sportback) and the Skoda Enyaq take 10.
It seems like inefficient compromise for a sporty handling capability and aesthetics. The battery capacity is quite large and could be refined to achieve more range. But such refinement might remove it's Jag intentions.
Worst car I have ever owned had for 3yrs, in garage for 6months they couldn't fix known safety fault so returned car to me anyway. Dealer, Finance and JLR not interested and pointed responsibility with each other.
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One of the best reviews for the i pace, had mine for over 3 years, brilliant car in all respects.
Same with us, I 100% agree and we are planning to buy a new on eat the end of the year.
Way behind with 100kw charging. My other EV is a Tesla Model S and it's a 2016 and will take 130kw
@@jasonnoble9315 I agree, except is has never been an issue for us. The rest of the vehicle is awesome.
@@Jonoponomono very true, if it works for you all good. Loads of choices out there now and coming up. I'm liking the look of the A6 Etron. 😊
@@jasonnoble9315 Yes, lots of choices coming out and the Audi does look good. Have a great spring.
Until you own an EV it is hard to appreciate how little DC charging speeds matter.
You are always in the position of being able to leave home with a full battery. Unless you are planning to travel more than 350km in one trip then you don't even need to consider a stop and unless you are traveling more than 600km then the top up required is such that charging speed will not impact your rest/meal break.
As for longer range, for the most part the even bigger battery is just more cost and weight. Most manufacturers are targeting similar or slightly less range.
re: "Until you own an EV it is hard to appreciate how little DC charging speeds matter. " yup, it's all marketing same as HP/TQ figures in ICE vehicles. we forget the goal of the manufacturers is the same as it's ALWAYS been, and that's to get us to buy THEIR product rather than the competition's product.
Unless you're driving in a country where legal speed limits are higher. I believe in the US speed limits are quite low. In Europe, plenty of countries have 120/130km/h speed limits. In my Model 3 I definitely notice that efficiency is much worse under these conditions. To attain that 350km range you mentioned, I would need a 500km range estimate, which would then drop to 350km of range at actual highway speed.
still using ABRP I see that I can go from Geneva to Saint-Nazaire with 3 stop of about 25 min with either an Audi e-tron, Tesla’s or Kia EV6 while we are talking 3 times 45 min with the Jaguar. In practice this means that if I buy the Jaguar I will plan a two day’s trip with overnight charging while with the e-tron and EV6 I will do just as I do now with my Lexus hybrid. I do this trip every year. OK I understand such long trip I only do 2-3 times per year but still
except when you're driving long distance. Being able to charge 20-80% as fast as possible is key, especially when you're realistically be charging often since your distance between charge is often only 60-70% of your max range (since you'll be charging to 80% anyways).
Although I'd stress that its for cars that have 100+kWh of battery. Imagine if you have a bloody high kWh capacity yet your charging speed is limited at 100-120. You'd be sitting there for 40min+ just to get to 80%.
And speaking of battery, I feel the main downside of the I-pace is its efficiency. I mean good job for them being able to cram 100+ kWh between those wheels, but all that for only 230miles EPA range? Most cars EV these days can do 270miles with 3/4 of that battery capacity.
Hi - think the max DC speed is now 125kw - I have got that out of my new black edition version that’s 6 weeks old. Charge curve isn’t great, unlike the etron which sits at 150kw, but the jag does drop to 80kw for a while when you are between 40-70/75%. For me, it’s the recharge rates that are becoming the differentiation points of these cars on longer journeys.
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Dream Jag 😍 🤤🤤🤤 So much nicer than the German EV's and even a simllarly priced Tesla
Best EV in the market
Think the back should be more aggressive looking but one of my fav evs
I notice thatJaguar have deleted the Jaguar motif from the front doors, a shame as they look good. Also they no longer supply new models with the centre console bottle holder cover.
Two years forward auto manufacturers won't build gas cars. The good news is there will be picnic tables in the middle of interstate highways.
Still is a really cool car
good review ! However you should not trust Jaguar figures as to the trunk space, they are lying. The Audi e-tron has a bigger, not a smaller trunk. According to Bjorn Born banana box test, it can only take 6 while the Audi e-tron take 8 (7 for the e-tron sportback) and the Skoda Enyaq take 10.
Pronounced _SEEZY-UM_ Blue
Look at 0:57 haha need help with photoshop I see next time do a cleaner iPhone mock-up
Really nice EV but the range is just too low.
It seems like inefficient compromise for a sporty handling capability and aesthetics. The battery capacity is quite large and could be refined to achieve more range. But such refinement might remove it's Jag intentions.
Who's gonna believe this video? The car is obviously blue, not black.
It's way behind now
Worst car I have ever owned had for 3yrs, in garage for 6months they couldn't fix known safety fault so returned car to me anyway. Dealer, Finance and JLR not interested and pointed responsibility with each other.
Landmotors in Spain os the same
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Call me when this car gets 300 miles per charge.
Pure e-Waste.
Sorry dude, the Jaguar was never ahead of its time... especially not when it was released.
Overpriced, impractical , oversized disabled scooters.