TOP 10 ONE CARD WIN CONS in cEDH - THE PLAY WIN PODCAST

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  • Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2024

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  • @GOOMBAHx
    @GOOMBAHx Год назад +88

    Guys, please don’t take this in the wrong way when I say this… it is 100% positive. I listen to your Spotify playlist of these specific episodes as I fall asleep because I sleep with headphones in. But my playgroup is transitioning more into CEDH so these episodes are genuinely gold to me. Please keep them going for the community growing in CEDH

    • @crossr1984
      @crossr1984 Год назад +2

      Pretty sure all of this wisdom deeps in, whether you're awake or not

  • @commanderpower99
    @commanderpower99 Год назад +97

    Please never stop making these!!

    • @rowrow_
      @rowrow_ Год назад +4

      "Top 10 99-card combos in cedh"

    • @crossr1984
      @crossr1984 Год назад

      0 card combos when?

  • @09Dragonite
    @09Dragonite Год назад +38

    So I love this topic, and honestly the more that I see Peer Into the Abyss the more I love Deflecting Swat. I've stolen at least 4 games by swatting Peer to target me, and killed another several opponents by swatting Peer back at themselves when it was cast into boardstates with Sheoldred or another draw punishment piece in play like Keterect Parasite. It is such a fun spell to play with targets on the stack 😂

  • @eorlikm681
    @eorlikm681 Год назад +20

    I came here for the gameplay; I stayed for the podcast.
    The gameplay was the gateway drug to y’all chemistry in these commentaries!
    Keep up the great work, and have a great day!

  • @TripsAhoy
    @TripsAhoy Год назад +12

    Love this series. All good info.
    Don't forget to go back to it in a year or 2 from now to update the lists!

  • @lomo918
    @lomo918 Год назад +4

    New to cEDH and you guys have become my favorite magic content creators hands down.

  • @test-st6te
    @test-st6te Год назад +7

    honourable mention to Oath of Druids (having only Lab maniac as creature in the deck)

  • @KXRCreative
    @KXRCreative Год назад +11

    Spellseeker is also a one card combo with Yarok or Panharmonicon. Double triggers to start the line is fun.

    • @AricinGrey
      @AricinGrey Год назад

      Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines as well!

  • @-homerow-
    @-homerow- Год назад +4

    I like this format a lot. It's like a selection of things that get organized into some sort of imaginary list. Like a layered list or some sort of steppe list, like a ladder or podiums perhaps, a hierarchy. Top tier content

  • @mattgamer1240
    @mattgamer1240 Год назад +8

    “a spellseeker can get a demonic consultation did you know that” geez Cam 😂😂

  • @doug2464
    @doug2464 Год назад +1

    These are always so great to listen to to burn through a boring work afternoon.

  • @Its-Lulu
    @Its-Lulu Год назад +2

    Very glad with the timing of this upload coinciding with my break 😎

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  Год назад +2

      Perfect!!

    • @Its-Lulu
      @Its-Lulu Год назад +1

      @@PlaytoWinMTG Love how when I'm busy working you guys are also working on content. I appreciate you guys a lot!

  • @blackrangergames707
    @blackrangergames707 Год назад +1

    The podcasts are great for people just getting into Cedh! Keep it up!

  • @ozymandias3110
    @ozymandias3110 Год назад

    Amazing episode, very informative as always!! I did prefer having the more well known, powerful cards at the beginning, because it makes everything easier to follow when you refer to them throughout the rest of the episode, rather than the repeated “we will get to that”. That being said, as long as these keep coming out, I will be happy!!

  • @nickmoore7593
    @nickmoore7593 Год назад +1

    i might be wrong, but i like using final parting in my kess deck..pretty nice to put thassa in hand and a consult in the graveyard.

  • @mattgamer1240
    @mattgamer1240 Год назад +2

    final parting is used a lot in valroz lists because it finds reanimate and hulk!

    • @scottlatta5348
      @scottlatta5348 Год назад +1

      Or K’rrik.. it grabs reanimate and Vilis.. then draw a good hunk of your deck. Lol

  • @ayejay7024
    @ayejay7024 Год назад +1

    This series is the BEST. Please rank the best single cards in each color next!

  • @freerunner1953
    @freerunner1953 Год назад

    I love Intuition so much! My favorite pile I ever got was Essence Flux, Red Blast, and Culling the Weak in Inalla. I had to reset a Scholar of the Ages and had a reanimation spell in hand

  • @frago321
    @frago321 10 месяцев назад

    59:00 in the time of the orc, Bowmaster has a thing or 2 to say to Peer into the Abyss.
    Also Pod lines can get you value in the road.

  • @Flip4Crypt
    @Flip4Crypt Год назад +1

    I really really like this "creating the top ten on the fly" format
    It's like free form jazz

  • @joshuadempsey5281
    @joshuadempsey5281 Год назад

    I dont play CEDH but this is one of my favorite EDH youtube channels.

  • @grimbourne
    @grimbourne Год назад

    All the black and green you were down on Defense of the Heart, Shared Summons final parting, playing Meren or Dina getting a Mikaeus Ballista line works like a dream. Lack of interaction with blue is the only reason these commanders aren't played at the top any longer. Even though they are very mana efficient.

  • @NewSchoolPOKERstrat
    @NewSchoolPOKERstrat Год назад

    I used to play final parting in Korvold Demon Chain and it was pretty great there. You can bin Squee and get foodchain to hand or bin a demon and reanimate or dockside and animate dead etc.. it was good for the time. Once I realized I was almost always grabbing dockside and reanimate I started down the path to “Korvold Unchained” .. my kinda treasure stormish build. Sans FC.. it just isn’t needed.

  • @maplz9314
    @maplz9314 Год назад +1

    Cards like the recruiters and spellseeker are also "one card wincons" in the sense that they can toolbox for cards to break parity or to unlock the board. Not a wincon per se but definitely pushing you into more Ws.
    I think an interesting way to think about this is just "cards that you cast and you probably win if you get to cast them, like 30%+ of the time"

  • @jaydonthewarrior636
    @jaydonthewarrior636 Год назад +2

    One left out, Goblin Recruiter.
    I'm not sure it would be high, but it should have been on here for sure.

  • @diegosarceno8936
    @diegosarceno8936 Год назад +1

    Polymorph in Rograkh Malcolm to get glint-horn bucaneer, love it

  • @abuelovinagres4411
    @abuelovinagres4411 Год назад +6

    I’d like to know your take about graveyard hate, like void effects, Tormod’s Crypt or at least Grafdigger’s Cage. Why don’t we see more often this kind of effects in a heavy graveyard recursion format as CDEH?
    And Tormod’s Crypt is a card that can easily go infinite by many means, btw…

    • @Djm939
      @Djm939 9 месяцев назад

      Grafdiggers cage is good because it’s 1 mana and can be targeted by urza’s saga, dauthi voidwalker is another good piece of graveyard hate, problem is if your not hating on anything then it’s kinda a dead card, so they need to be good outside of stopping some graveyard shenanigans

    • @abuelovinagres4411
      @abuelovinagres4411 9 месяцев назад

      @@Djm939 They are both cheap artifacts, it's hard to believe tehy can't find'em a use in such high level of competition.

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 Год назад

    Divining Witch in Hermit Druid lists with Tyvar/haste enablers is a nice include, I run it in my Raffine list as another creature and it sneaks into my Tymna Thrasios list just as a nother creature.

  • @egoish6762
    @egoish6762 Год назад

    Intuition with Kess on the table for thassa, consult and reanimate is also a win. There are a few commander specific intuition lines that are worth looking at even without the specific colours of breach and sevinnes

  • @mizzelin00
    @mizzelin00 Год назад

    There are spellseeker lines in UGW+ with thrasios as Commander: ephemerate, gsz or neoform to devoted druid, enlightened tutor to Swift reconfiguration

  • @bensteinhauser784
    @bensteinhauser784 Год назад +2

    Great video! It might be more accurate to call them one card assemblers instead of one card combos since they're finding all the cards to win instead of winning.

  • @WushuTaz
    @WushuTaz Год назад +3

    Postmortem Lunge saved my ass after losing hermit druid to the graveyard so many times.
    Also, I believe Hermit Druid was my first cEDH turn 1 win with Kenrith. If you don't win, it's absolutely relentless testing the board for constant repeatable wins practically every turn.

    • @mato579
      @mato579 Год назад +1

      I love it when HD dies, most of the time i set it up when I have a revive with haste like Postmortem or Shallow Grave, playing it in Sidisi, very fast variation of it.

    • @mato579
      @mato579 Год назад +1

      also Doomsday, perfect for Sidisi if you can summon her that turn or attack with her to mill 3 cards

  • @timtauber5557
    @timtauber5557 Год назад

    Make defense of the heart better by playing “ Forbidden Orchard” this land taps for 1 mana of any color, but you have to give an opponent a 1/1 spirit creature token.
    You could add red for the 2 cost red extra turn spells, but they are risky.
    I prefer a simic deck for this because you add counter magic and extra turns.

  • @alpacalyptical698
    @alpacalyptical698 Год назад +1

    Very cool video! I would argue you missed a 1 card win con, gamble. It is a gamble to win (funny that) but you use gamble to get breach, and then provided you dont discard breach, you cast it and use breach to recast gamble a few more times to piece together the win, at that point it doesnt even matter if you discard what you looked for as well.

  • @autopsipath
    @autopsipath Год назад

    Dylan man this casual slick back hair look really suits the moe and you're a very engaging speaker so showing the lines and character in your face only adds to that. But just how it reveals your hairline makes it age you a bit. I was actually watching this episode too this time.

  • @fevereddreams3805
    @fevereddreams3805 Год назад

    dylan " I'll do it, I don't mind, " then proceeds to brain blast everyone. Truly glorious. never stop never stopping.

  • @TrollVision01
    @TrollVision01 Год назад +5

    the fact that you guys didnt mentioned Prosper on the doomsday pile got me fuming (JK, its the most underated doomsday pile), im loving this ranking podcast episodes guys

  • @thomasnoonan2039
    @thomasnoonan2039 Год назад +2

    Love this list! Great content as always :)

  • @zacharymangen754
    @zacharymangen754 Год назад +2

    One thing you missed for hermit Druid is that it can fold to negate interaction they just counter the dread return and an extra bad card I play is memory’s journey it just shuffle back orical to try and win the next turn

  • @Ianova
    @Ianova Год назад

    Hoarding Broodlord probably found its way in your circles already, but it can't be understated.
    It's not just a PITA resolver, it also assembles Saw in Half lines that include Eternal Witness + LED/Culling the Weak.
    It's a really strong reanimation payoff, boardstates where Razaketh can't win (low creatures, or lifetotal) are no longer an issue. It also sets up Razaketh super well, since saw in half pumps tokens, you can be really creative in win conditions.
    It's also scalable with creature based gameplans. Hard-casting this thing is not unreasonable and also sets up Razaketh by itself. This thing is literally a combo piece and a 1 card win-con all in one.
    TLDR: Razaketh + Broodlord > Razaketh + Protean Hulk (in the right scenarios). I know I never shut up about my Meren list, but it sincerely feels like a jump from a fringe win-con (Golgari Hulk 🤢) to something way more consistent and versatile.

    • @Ianova
      @Ianova Год назад

      Really unfortunate that this card printed AFTER you made the video 😮‍💨

  • @garrettdamron2226
    @garrettdamron2226 Год назад +2

    I feel like protean hulk shouldve been talked about here

  • @moonlightmtg
    @moonlightmtg Год назад +1

    Divergent Transformation could definitely skyrocket to the top of the list with the new Etali. Etali + Displacer Kitten = cast all spells in everyone's deck .

    • @thetorchman6457
      @thetorchman6457 Год назад

      Great! Thought I was the only divert transfor player! I go codie tutors transformation plus only having kiki jiki and restoration angel on the deck

  • @DexterityYTC
    @DexterityYTC Год назад

    I’m writing this early so sorry if it gets mentioned, a much less mana intensive Imperial Recruiter line is to go get Goblin Recruiter, which is ironically also a 1 card combo, to set up conspicuous kiki combo.

  • @carettcake8752
    @carettcake8752 Год назад

    I love hearing the thought process. Keep it up ❤

  • @mthlay15
    @mthlay15 Год назад

    This series has been fantastic. Thanks for the discussion.

  • @brendanbarnes1841
    @brendanbarnes1841 Год назад +3

    It definitely doesn't make the top 10 because of how bad it actually is, but the Goblin Recruiter pile is still my favorite (and incredibly awful) 1 card combo, little sad it didn't make the list, but I get that it's probably just not worth talking about anymore
    Loving the combo series though, really helps me keep up with lines I'm not as familiar with!

  • @sceadumor
    @sceadumor Год назад

    I've played Hermit Druid in Derevi with Sevine's and Thassa's Oracle, worked well enough but was mana intensive

  • @mtgstrategy1391
    @mtgstrategy1391 Год назад

    Xris is a great kiki general deck. Was my favorite type of deck to run. All counters tutors and mana ramp

  • @mpn_cowardlyvamp5285
    @mpn_cowardlyvamp5285 Год назад

    I play a spell speaker line in my derevi stax list as a one card wincon. It gets ephemerate, then neoform to get emiel to flicker derevi for infinite mana :)

  • @Starfox2020
    @Starfox2020 Год назад

    *pushes up glasses*
    You would need to protrube something beyond a limit or surface. So the midrange green deck could protrube beyond the average green deck in CEDH, but it wouldn't protrube beyond green stax as that doesn't work rrally with the definition of the word.

  • @magusofthebargain
    @magusofthebargain Год назад +1

    "Nobody plays Rest in Peace" (immediately starts building Rest in Peace deck)

  • @aedanhannabeshoi
    @aedanhannabeshoi Год назад

    niche but in Yawgmoth final parting will get you an undying creature or an aristocrat and then send bridge to bellow to the grave for your combo

  • @eduardolagunas69
    @eduardolagunas69 Год назад

    In survival if you have one more creature in hand you could get dockside to make the line possibly cheaper or the same mana as the other lines if it's worth it if not at least make the survival line cheaper if dockside can make 4 treasures it will be 1 mana cheaper for the line and so on for each treasure from there.

  • @ussgordoncaptain
    @ussgordoncaptain Год назад

    My favorite doomsday line is
    Final Fortune, (lotus petal), Grand Abolisher, Thassa's oracle. Irrelevant, (irrelevant)
    Play doomsday
    Attack with kraum drawing final fortune (if you can draw a second card you can draw the petal too)
    Play final fortune
    Draw Grand abolisher
    Play abolisher
    Attack with Kraum
    Draw Thassa's oracle
    Play oracle, Win
    it slots very nicely in my Ad Naus shell and the only weird card I have to play is final fortune, which many people already play anyway.

  • @hurnn1543
    @hurnn1543 Год назад

    I'm a little surprised Tooth and Nail didn't get a mention in the tutor 2 creatures segment.

  • @alanrois7941
    @alanrois7941 Год назад

    Love the podcasts. Waiting for best mana rocks and best card draw engines.

  • @jurassicjuror
    @jurassicjuror Год назад

    My meta is quite heavy stax, so I might consider including Divining Witch in my Yuriko list, due to all of the Rule of Law effects..... haha

  • @zacperin7459
    @zacperin7459 Год назад

    It doesnt see much play now, but fireminds foresight and invert/invent in izzet storm lists like mizzix and Vadrik. Also Yisan could probably be classed as a 1 card win con that sees pretty regular play although not always as a win con. I would also wonder if necro ended up being ranked as a card instead of as a win con. As a win con its cool in like shimmer zur etc but sort of unreliable. Also final parting into hoarding broodlord and reanimate is probably better than into razaketh now imo, maybe a hot take tho... but it does peer for 6 mana instead of 7

  • @Ianova
    @Ianova Год назад +1

    Fatestitcher can be replaced by Combat Courier :)

  • @CTDMUDRUNNER
    @CTDMUDRUNNER Год назад

    Great list. Bravo.

  • @jareddease1082
    @jareddease1082 Год назад

    Love the channel. Thanks for uploading.

  • @smallgreenfrog
    @smallgreenfrog Год назад

    I would argue for at least an honorable mention for Mnemonic Betrayal

  • @okpanda5153
    @okpanda5153 8 месяцев назад

    In defense of defense of the heart couldn't you grab spell seeker and thassa. Then have spell seeker grab ephemerate. Flicker the seeker grab demonic consultation and on the next upkeep bounce the thassa for the win. It's a winning combo that's less mana than the witch and just as slow

  • @riccardireptiles
    @riccardireptiles Год назад

    In regards to razaketh you guys didn't mention the leonin relic warder/ animate dead combo. That gives you infinite sacrifices for razaketh. It's a super valid line.

  • @theycallmelittletoe
    @theycallmelittletoe Год назад

    I have been trying out imperial recruiter in a vial thrassios list I’m working on. I have had a game where i was able to play imperial recruiter to get dockside and then neo form the recruiter into displacer kitten.

  • @mehra6712
    @mehra6712 Год назад

    Love me some doomsday in legacy. Glad to see it make the cedh list ^_^

  • @trevorbeck9674
    @trevorbeck9674 Год назад +1

    Need those tie-dye shirts boys, put them on Bonfire!

  • @SeriosSkies92
    @SeriosSkies92 Год назад

    I prefer sultai spellseeker lines. Neoform your commander played on a previous turn into displacer kitten. just wins on the same turn @6 mana.

  • @Technogeek101
    @Technogeek101 Год назад

    Have you considered [[final parting]] to get [[squee the immortal]] into the graveyard and [[food chain]] into hand to combo off? I have a korvold deck and wonder if its worth adding.

    • @raedien
      @raedien Год назад

      I mean that's really just a food chain line with extra steps...and food chain is pretty high up there.
      So go for it!

  • @KirkulesMagicTheGalavanting
    @KirkulesMagicTheGalavanting Год назад +2

    Where's Protean Hulk?

  • @oddball_designs7436
    @oddball_designs7436 Год назад

    With final parting, wouldn't necromancer P-hulk be viable?

  • @ChristiantrospectiveGamer
    @ChristiantrospectiveGamer Год назад

    Defense of the Heart to get Palinchron and Deadeye Navigator for infinite mana. First game of commander I ever played that's what I lost to...in a "casual" game.

  • @patrikpotts
    @patrikpotts 6 месяцев назад

    When evauluatiing Defense of the heart I consider it a stax piece. It says if you ever get 3 creatures in play, I win the game on my next turn. Just my 2 cents

  • @VeilofDeathMTG
    @VeilofDeathMTG Год назад

    I like the Mention of Deep Analysis since I run it but where is the Mention of Raffine :D

  • @jbs6614
    @jbs6614 9 месяцев назад

    Thoughts on Goblin Recruiter-Snoop lines?

  • @abrahamdrinkin2534
    @abrahamdrinkin2534 Год назад

    Final Parting is a bomb in K’rrik and pretty much no where else

  • @nigelv9148
    @nigelv9148 Год назад

    I just love doomsday! Do you think it could be played in Kenrith?

  • @TheStyrofoamTumor
    @TheStyrofoamTumor Год назад

    Would you consider Goblin Recruiter a one-card combo? You might need to errata your list haha.

  • @justinginnett7159
    @justinginnett7159 Год назад

    I run a rielle the everwise leveler combo deck and i love it with all my heart, it is very bad

  • @King_Vai
    @King_Vai Год назад

    Well, spell seeker isn't a one card combo because you don't find lion's eye diamond? Does that lower it's ranking?

  • @andrewpalella9923
    @andrewpalella9923 Год назад

    I know Cameron played at punt city 2. Dylan did you get to play and if so what deck?

  • @decentparks3597
    @decentparks3597 Год назад

    You need to build your deck around bolas citadel and the way you need to build it dies to rule of law effects

  • @rodneyyapi5014
    @rodneyyapi5014 Год назад

    Though this is atypical I play dooms day with nexus of fate over peer to abyss so if fish fails my last card is infinite turns with tevesh zat. Which

  • @MtendoTheSkunk
    @MtendoTheSkunk Год назад

    I'm surprised you didn't mention Final Parting with K'rrik. Costs a bit less and you can get Vilis and reanimate. Cast Reanimate and draw a ton of cards from the loss of life. Not saying it's necessarily much higher but it isn't as terrible as you made it sound.

  • @mightyone3737
    @mightyone3737 Год назад

    I still say Zur Necro decks can be a thing, you just need to play a slow, conservative sort of game.
    I use Proteus Staff in Talrand, and I use Jin-Gitaxias and Sphinx of the Second Sun as my only creatures, if I can cast a Sunder most people are in a great deal of trouble, and using Proteus Staff after my 2nd creature is out lets me reorder my entire deck, after which I possibly draw a total of 8 extra cards. The deck can struggle a tad if I dig out Jin first, but it's hard for me drawing 7 cards, and everyone else being stuck with a 0 hand size, to be bad, it's just that I can draw poorly and have insufficient interaction to protect Jin, so the deck runs a heap of counters. I like having Sphinx because the bonus untap makes it pretty easy to win, as I'll always have heaps of interaction and mana up for everyone's 1 card per turn since I can dig out Jin as long as I have another creature (I can sac Talrand in a pinch), once I set up it's hard to lose, so I'm trying to figure out ways to make it more stable! ATM the deck is lowish budget, but I have a few cards that can go in.

  • @shredz6
    @shredz6 Год назад

    There's that Doomsday! I knew the like on the previous video was foreshadowing 😂

  • @patrikpotts
    @patrikpotts 6 месяцев назад

    27:40 Had me rofl. Love you guys

  • @kmungal
    @kmungal 6 месяцев назад

    So Doomsday vs Opposition agent: you play doomsday, guy across the table says" i have opp..., cut him off saying "done" holding the top five cards of your library, you dont need to look. Opposition agent triggers and exiles the five cards, now your entire library is exiled and you have no cards to play. thassa oracle, jace wielder of mysteries, laboratory maniac win.

  • @wverms
    @wverms Год назад

    Aragorn is Jeskai with ETB become the monarch, but once again, good enough? Idk.

  • @scottlatta5348
    @scottlatta5348 Год назад

    I was surprised to see no K’rrik mention with Final Parting. No fleshwrither.. 😢

  • @kevintiemann6875
    @kevintiemann6875 Год назад

    Is it me or did the colored rarity of Divining Witch look uncommon? Oh and the show is awesome!!!

  • @ReyaadawnMTG
    @ReyaadawnMTG Год назад

    Corridor Monitor is probably the cheapest Kiki Jiki combo piece.

  • @chritsfootballs
    @chritsfootballs Год назад

    I feel like final parting isn’t done justice. The only deck you should play it in is krrik where it becomes a 3 mana spell that’s gonna dump vilis and grab reanimate to draw you 8 cards

  • @ziege5165
    @ziege5165 Год назад

    Surprised that Academy Rector/Pattern of Rebirth not on this list.

  • @MrBailen555
    @MrBailen555 Год назад

    Love this topic, but I disagree with your placement of Final Parting. It's just cuz I'm a K'rrik Son of Yawgmother player. Final Parting is just a way better Ad Nauseam in K'rrik, you pitch Vilis Broker of Blood and add Reanimate. That will draw you 8 and then you just start pinging your opponent's creatures or casting spells and drawing every time you do one or the other.

  • @ReidFisher86
    @ReidFisher86 11 месяцев назад

    21:47 narco, bloodghast, and the hermit Druid itself are enough

  • @thomasmortensen6379
    @thomasmortensen6379 Год назад

    Would it not be better to play Wild magic surge instead of polymorph?

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  Год назад

      I believe you cannot WMS your own thing

  • @damo9961
    @damo9961 Год назад

    Ephemerate dodges removal for a creature.

  • @Fogshaper
    @Fogshaper Год назад

    Not related to this video in any way or form, but: I wanna be as cool as Dylan and look good wearing Misfits shirts. What's the first Misfits album I should listen to in an obsessive way?

    • @PlaytoWinMTG
      @PlaytoWinMTG  Год назад +1

      Oh hell yeah!!! Earth ad and walk among us are my favorite but American psycho is a great intro album

    • @Fogshaper
      @Fogshaper Год назад

      @@PlaytoWinMTG sick, thanks.

  • @chrisbuffington7061
    @chrisbuffington7061 Год назад

    Don't forget Malcolm and rograhk glinthorn polymorph