Gonna start with PJ Tucker leving since he is one of the core for that chip then followed by the 2022 playoff exit then followed by firing bud then traded Jrue
@@pakpaksugar5194 he was a benchwarmer by then cuz he was hoping fron team to team Also i forgot about Divencenzo piece because he was traded at the 2022 deadline
@@RaidensBoobies17 he was but he’s funny af and seems really cool to have in the locker room. it’ll probably be mentioned less as “this made the team worse on a basketball level” and more “and then the vibes got worse.” maybe the real first domino would be khris middelton getting injured since that was what lead to them losing to the celtics which you could probably argue lead to the dame trade
His half court offence was pretty bad seems like a minor problem compared to now but don’t let that change the fact it was a problem. Despite that I think they fire coach Bud prematurely.
Giannis had won less than a handful of playoff games before Bud. I mean, he's still as skillless as ever and relies on breaking the rules and taking advantage of idiot refs, but he was completely garbage back then. Won't make a difference either way, he's got Doc, and Dame Lillard is a fucking loser
At this point,was Adrian Griffin even the problem? 17 games above.500 as a rookie coach with room to grow and who admittedly made mistakes,but look at them ever since....
That 2008 ring really twisted the perception of him. He does well when he's coaching teams with no expectations (Grant Hill-less Magic, post-Lob City Clippers), but falls off once the roster actually improves. The 2008 Celtics won in spite of him thanks to their sheer talent, Thibs, and a couple of good breaks - a 66-win juggernaut shouldn't be locked in two game 7s in the LEastern Conference.
So you've learned nothing from any of the past decade? At this point, it feels like an NBA law of nature that he's just gonna keep getting hired over and over again, getting passed around like a burnt out joint.
nah small sample size can give all sort of ridiculous stats averages. It's next to nothing. KAT is averaging 22 points with 55% FG and 65% from 3. Is he going to shoot 65% from 3 this whole season? almost certainly not. When you have small example sizes, you have large variance. Meaning you have super good stats averages... and super bad stats averages.
@@shorewall And yet he gets no shit. I have not once heard anyone blame him. He stll gets treated as if he was that wonderkid that nobody expected to become what he has and yet he's been either injured or forced the FO to terrible decisions (not that I'm taking the FO out of their responsibility) but Giannis should get more shit.
Cummins like these are perfect example of why fans should just watch the games enjoy the games and shut the fuk up. The thing about the internet is it gave the common fan way too much access to information about the team that they don't need and now everybody thinks there's some kind of NBA insider
I see absolutely no reason that Giannis/Dame cant run their own variation of the Jokic/Murray two man game. You may not have quite the passing level of Jokic but Giannis is absolutely no slouch as a playmaker. Its gotta be a chemistry/coaching issue I refuse to believe this duo cant dominate.
Jokic and Murray have been playing together since both were drafted; their two-man game is part of their basketball DNA at this point and was developed and repped out over a long period of time. Giannis and Dame just became teammates a year ago and have clearly not put in the time and effort necessary to have anything close to that kind of chemistry. They didn't work out together this past off-season, and they didn't have enough time to work out together last off-season because the Dame trade occurred so late in the off-season. Coaching is a part of it, but it's also them. Either they are simply not a good fit, don't have enough time together, or neither of them are willing to sacrifice for the other.
Because Giannis isn’t the great passer/playmaker you think he is, he has horrible tunnel vision and is always trying to go up in the paint while doubled instead of passing out, and when he does pass it, it’s after he’s pushed around until there’s 1 second left before he gets called for standing in the paint too long, so the defense knows the ball is getting kicked out by the time he passes it. Giannis doesn’t make his teammates better, he just draws double teams, which only helps your team if you constantly pass when doubled. Jokic is a less selfish player than Giannis, and that’s what it comes down to. Giannis spends too much time trying to get himself more stats.
Each player would have to sacrifice a little bit for the greater good. Both Giannis and Dame don't seem interested in that. I thought better of either of them. But oh well, it's not like I care about the Bucks.
Say what you want about Embiid vs. Giannis, but when the Sixers got Harden, Embiid went from a guy who never screened to a willing screener. If Giannis isn’t willing to do, he’s a worse player than people give him credit for.
I don't want to hear any crap about his build either. I'm not a big, wide body, but I can set a reasonable screen. Giannis just needs to decide this is something he will get good at.
Should’ve never fired Budenholzer and AND SHOULDVE NEVER traded for Dame they did exactly what my lakers did back in 20-21 season. they lost in the playoffs and they had a knee jerk reaction to it. Trading away Jrue was so dumb, they had a great identity of prioritizing defense first and one bad playoff lost fucked them up
You can say that, but their chances of winning another title were not much better with those two, either. That was literally proven in their last 2 playoff runs. Injuries or not.
@@urbaindelva7869you have holiday. Hali Brunson and Tatum/brown get slowed down. Giannis and brook can trust the point of attack being locked up and they can focus more. Jrue is also statistically a better 3 pt shooter than dame is rn. Dame needs to get his shit together and work on his defense as well. That perimeter defense falls apart since dame can't stop a drop of water defensively
Fired Budenholzer and then Adrian Griffin even though neither of them were the problem. Got rid of Jrue even though he wasnt the problem. Keep burning Bucks, you deserve every bit of it.
You can say that, but don't act like Budenholzer didn't get himself fired after that collapse against Miami and the multiple other playoff failures prior to that. Adrian Griffin? I agree. They should've stuck it out till the end of the year with him.
Wow man that Cavs game was so good. Dame and Giannis combine for 75 and they still can’t pull out the win. Their supporting cast really needs to step it up. PS We are gonna need a dedicated cavs video, they have been too good to ignore
What's crazy is that the Bucks shot just over 46% from 3 and still lost...defense against guards, taking care of the ball and making your damn free throws matters🤦🏿
Imagine Dame with the Heat, with his friend Butler instead of Giannis, with Eric Spoelstra instead of Doc Rivers, and in Miami instead of Milwaukee. That trade is the most tragic plot twist in the recent NBA.
This should absolutely be the last team for Doc Rivers to coach. He's an old school coach. I feel like his early success in Orlando and Boston were from a fast team and top heavy team ahead of their times, and he had more energy and innovation back then. The Clippers had bad injury luck, but his time with the Sixers and now Bucks were marked by bad adjustments and usage of his rosters. He's also supposed to be a defensive coach, but clearly isn't keeping to that with this team.
On the 08 Boston team, Coach Thibs was his DC. You could argue that Thib's defense and the humble veteran superteam were responsible, not anything that Doc did.
I feel like we're learning that nearly 100% of those Celtic's successes were due to the fact KG and Paul Pierce finally got to play with another player at their own level and Ray Allen was ahead of his time as a proto-Steph Curry, a playstyle that would come to dominate the league. I know those guys are all humble and coachable, but the reality is the big 3's talents combined with getting a rookie borderline HOF point guard was the recipe for a good 4 year run and a single championship.
@7:22 Exactly. This is part of the reason why Bron fans underrate 2 time all star Zydrunas Ilgaskus, and his contribution to the 07 Finals run. In addition to the excellent defense and rebounding he did against Tim Duncan in that 07 finals; he was undeniably an elite screener for LeBron during that run, and for most of the 1st LeBron Cavs Stint.
You may be asking yourself, how did the Milwaukee Bucks go from an NBA Champion and possible reincarnation of the 2000s San Antonio Spurs, TO THIS? The answer can best be described by one man. No its not Doc Rivers, he was thrown straight into the fire. The reason why the Bucks are a mess starts at the top. The moment that Marc Lasry sold his portion of the team, was the moment that this organization jumped the shark. The reasoning wasn't due to him leaving but who took his place. If you thought David Tepper was the worst owner in all of sports, Jimmy Haslam makes him look like a choirboy. If you thought his tenure with the Cleveland Browns is bad enough, this is even worse. Even since he bought the Bucks in 2023, they've become an absolute trainwreck. Remember when he traded the Browns entire future to the Texans for Deshaun Watson and gave him $230M fully guaranteed? HE LITERALLY DID THE EXACT SAME THING WITH DAMIAN LILLARD! Not only did they give up most of their remaining future, but they gave the Celtics, THE DREADED CELTICS Jrue Holiday. No wonder why Boston is about to become possibly the next great dynasty in the NBA. And if they do, you can thank both Haslam and Billy King. Giannis I beg of you. GET OUT OF THERE! Its not because of your relationship with the city of Milwaukee or the organization, get out of there because you don't deserve to have most of your prime wasted thanks to a clown owner who changes philosophies like he changes pants.
The league wanted parity and competitive balance so this is what you get. You get teams like Milwaukee and Denver who struggle to put pieces around their star to compete for a second title and you get the best years of their careers wasted playing for uncompetetive teams. I warned everyone I tried to warn you all
This is what you get when teams overplay players. They now don't have money. Don't you find it odd that every player (almost) gets his max contract when it time even when they are even close to being a max player. Paul George has won nowhere. He's usually the reason the team loses as well. Yet teams keep throwing money at him thinking it going to change. Worse he misses more game every year. NBA teams are lucky the NBA does have and actual cap you can't go over, or no team would be good. They only things teams do is throw money at it thinking that will work. Get 3 max guys and you're golden. The other 9 guys don't matter with just need three max guys and the rest can be trash.
@CaseyLynn-i7u lmfao Paul George didn't play for either Denver or Milwaukee tf does that have to do with Nuggets and Bucks squandering the prime of their marquee superstar? Completely irrelevant
I dont quite think you can say Doc has never been a good coach. Whilst he SUCKS with actually good contending teams (Lob City Clippers, Kawhi/PG Clippers, Sixers, current Bucks), he had two very good seasons with the clippers in the transitional period in between the Lob City and Kawhi/PG eras. Those teams were really nothing crazy, but they had a winning record both seasons, and the 2019 Clippers are one of the most overachieving teams I've seen in recent years, taking the Warriors to 6. I'd be surprised if any decent, contending teams sign Doc after this Bucks stint, but I could see him having a good impact on a low level play in team.
@@thedimedropper9601 Pretty much. Him winning in 08 must’ve inflated his ego way too much to ever sign to a rebuilding/mediocre team. Maybe Milwaukee will blow it all up and he’ll get the chance again.
I don't think Giannis wants to leave, but he ain't stupid. If everyone is healthy come playoff time and they are still gonna be a 1st round exit, Giannis is leaving imo. He knows he has done enough for this organization, but this organization ain't doing nothing for him. Ah and one thing i wanna say, i don't think Doc is the right coach at all, but if a player of Dames caliber shoots 1/12 and scores only 4 POINTS, even the best coaches would look bad. Dame keeps getting a pass for his performances, cause you all blame the coach for everythink...
First of all, Giannis is a big reason why the Bucks are in this position. His little references and teases to asking for a trade sent the FO into panic mode with their moves. Secondly, who is not blaming Dame? He is literally getting the most blame out of anyone on the roster, more than he deserves.
@@urbaindelva7869 I agree, Giannis isn't getting enough shit for how he is very responsible for this not working. MY alarm bells rang when they egged around about not working out together in the off season. Yeah yeah, Olympics but if this means anything to them, they would find the time. Apparently they both don't care and everything considered, Giannis should care more that it works.
It’s videos like this that really show how much you’ve grown as both an analyst and a presenter. Over the last two or so years you’ve gotten so much better at discussing the nuances of the game and so much better at getting to your point and providing the right kind of information to back it up. It might sound simple, but both your scripted and unscripted work these days is consistently extremely organized, informative, and confident, more than it ever has been. I agree with a ton of what you’re saying here, and I’ve been so frustrated at the Bucks not consistently running PnR with Dame and Giannis, I lean towards thinking Giannis needs to take a step back, I wish Giannis would bite the bullet and play a more traditional role as a big around a guard who plays very well off of (to the point where he arguably overly relies on) traditional bigs.
I feel like everything with the bucks is coming back to karma. Budenholzer being fired and being blamed for the one game when obviously his head wasn't in the right mind after the death of his brother, adrian griffin being fired and some of the players like giannis advocating for it after still a 30-13 start. Also the jrue holiday trade.
I remember a while ago Gilbert Arenas said giannis doesn’t fully understand basketball. Obviously I don’t agree 100% with that statement but it’s starting to make a lot more sense now why he thought that way .
Hey rusty just watched the Wilt Paradox and it was prob some of the best bball content I’ve ever seen! So glad to see how well you’ve done after moving, and I can’t wait to see your channel flourish with all the great work you put in 🎉
I HATE to say it but pro sports are RIGGED! This is where Vince Mcma.., I mean the nba sets up the STORYLINE of a trade that gets Giannis out of Milwaukee. They are dying to get Giannis to a big market!
Gonna look back in history at the 2022/23 offseason as an all time overreaction from the MKE front office. Now just sitting here wondering how many picks OKC gives up for Giannis 😢
on Bobby Portis, he's been a 6MOY candidate, was moving without the ball, and playing solid defense when Bud was the coach. Rivers and Ham are useless especially together
When people discredit Doc’s ring, they regularly forget to mention one of the biggest points - he had Thibs. Thibs was a huge Iuxury for Doc and that team’s defense. That’s Thibs’ ring as far as I’m concerned lol
I blame Giannis and the front office. Giannis should be getting the same criticism Lebron and AD demanding the front office go after a star player. Imagine if they stayed the course and been healthy last season. Boston was playing down to competition like always because every team had at least one key player out on injury.
What can fix Milwaukee: 1) Get rid of Brook, Pat, and Bobby Portis. 2) Move Giannis to center. 3) Tell Giannis to screen more. 4) When Kris comes back, if he doesnt stay healthy trade him. Perhaps a trade for Marcus Smart. 5) After all this, if there are still issues, fire Doc. The reason why this should be last is because Milwaukee is still paying their previous coaches. Too much money tied into coached.
Rusty not mentioning AJ Green or Andre Jackson Jr is criminal. All is not lost if Doc actually plays these young guys who have talents we need getting minutes in the rotation. Drop Connaughton minutes to like 6 or less, and limit GTJ to no more than 25 mpg. Split what’s leftover from that between Ajax and Green and BOOM
The Bucks as a team they are in danger of going off the cliff completely. A second apron team with this level of results is a disaster. The Bucks look old and top heavy. The team is overpaying for old players and has no money to fill out the roster with usable depth. The young players on the team (up to this point) provide nothing toward winning. But hey, they're young players! The team has 3 recent second round picks (Tyler Smith, Andre Jackson, Chris Livingston) taking up roster spots on the 15-man as well as another rookie AJ Johnson taking another spot. You DO NOT WIN in the NBA with your bench full of rookies and unproven second round picks. Also, you have AJ Green an undrafted 3rd year player taking up a roster spot who is basically a one trick pony (he can light it up from 3 in garbage time but is never used when it matters). That's one third of the roster that is unproven or perhaps just plain scrubs. Add in Marjon Beauchamp and that is 6 of the 15 players that provide absolutely nothing right now. Maybe start playing AJ Johnson a little bit more and see what he can do. The Bucks organization is horrible at developing young players lately. When the older and in some cases, injury prone players in the Bucks rotation get hurt (which is bound to happen this season), who off this deep bench is going to step up and keep the ship afloat? Crickets! At least these guys came cheap so the owner can pay less luxury tax! The Bucks are old. Lopez is 36 so the clock is ticking. Dame is 34 and has had injury issues while only averaging 58 games played per year over the last 5 seasons so the clock is ticking. Middleton is 33 and has only averaged 57 games played per year over the last 5 seasons and what a surprise he's missed the first 6+ games this year so far. Middleton can still play but his All-star years are behind him. He's not worth the money he's being paid. Connaughton is 32 and looks like he may be going off the age cliff right now (his ppg averages over the last 3 years are 9.9, 7.6, 5.6 and so far, this year 3.8 ppg on 26% from three. Prince (great FA pickup) he's playing well but the team is still struggling with him hitting 54% from three. That will regress toward his career average of 38% so someone else will have to pick up the slack eventually. Delon Wright is 32 and appears to also be going off the age cliff (his ppg averages over the last 4 years are 10.2, 4.4, 7.4, 4.5 and so far, this year 2.5 ppg). With young players providing nothing and older rotation players showing that the clock is ticking is it any wonder why the rumors of Giannis wanting out are continuing to pop up? Can you blame him? Now to Giannis. Superstar. One of the top 5 or 10 most coveted players in the entire league. He's also the easiest Superstar for other teams to scheme against defensively. This is his turning age 30 NBA season, so he basically is who he is at this point. Career 3 point % is just 28.6%. Giannis shooting from outside doesn't scare anybody. The majority of his offensive philosophy is "Put my head down and bull rush to the rim and bitch to the ref when I don't get a foul call." If opposing teams have a chance to set up their half-court defense against Giannis, he is a much less effective player. Fouling him is a good strategy on his bull rushes because he leaves a lot of points at the line. He's shooting just 53% from the line so far this year which is the worst of his career, and he goes to the line a lot, so the low percentage isn't because of a small sample size. Giannis hasn't made a three-point shot yet this season in six games. WTF? His steal and block numbers are down this year with current averages thru six games both at the lowest of his entire career. His personal foul average is up at 3.5 per game so far which is the highest average of his career. It's early but Giannis' statistical performance looks a little strange to start this season. You have to hope it isn't a sign of something bigger being wrong.
I'm a bucks fan and I love Giannis, it's disheartening how his abandoned his mid ridge after winning the chip. The one year he improved in that, they won.
I dont say this often. I swear i dont. But we have no money to make moves. We have aging stars and a terrible coach. We reallt should just blow it up. There's nothing that can be done to really turn us to a title contender.
Maybe I missed this but I think you are missing their main problem. Giannis is big and long-legged. He needs a ton of room to operate. Throw in slow-footed Brook Lopez also taking up tons of space and it's very hard to build an effective offense with such limited space if Giannis is going to initiate from the 3-point line.
as a bucks fan, i think the main problem with this team is that we can’t seem to stay composed for 4 quarters. also our role players aren’t anywhere where they were offensively in 2022
Dame isn't a passing PG. He's a drive and kick player tbh. What made CJ and Dame dangerous albeit a defense void backourt, was CJ's ability to ball handle and pull some defenders to him. He can't have a backcourt whos a stationary player. They really need a PG. Tyus jones would've stabilized the team. They would've spammed Giannis and Dame PNR if it would've been effective.
As a raptors fan I feel like I was the only one that didn't want GTJ on our team cuz this guy does NOT produce. Good vet presence but the buck wasn't looking for that 🤷♂
How has dame been bad at all this season. He’s been great. Y’all look at the record and just pick someone to blame because you don’t watch the actual games. Atleast look up stats if you’re not gonna watch games either
Why did anyone think it would be. Doc sucks as a HC. That was a bad hire. Keep trading away trade to get old, overrated players like Lillard. The Bucks players who actually play are now old and slow. Even Gianis all though still great isn't the same on defense he was 3 years ago. Rivers as your HC and an old roster core that no one plays no defense. Good luck.
Defensive teams have that tendency to think they are an offensive team with time because they end up scoring more than the other team most of the time. And then S*** hit the fan.
As a Bucks fan, I knew right away that the Doc hire was a mistake, but it's actually been worse than I even could have imagined. I'd say it'd be hilarious if he got traded as a coach for a second time, but he literally doesn't have any observable value at this point. No other team would possibly be that misguided.
Since 2016-17 when Giannis became a superstar, the Bucks have lost in the first round 4 times. That's 50% of the time. Imagine any superstar getting this much slack for not making it passed the 1st round. We get Joel Embiid so much crap out of not making it to the ECF but if a ball bounces another way, another shot goes in, we're talking about Durant's Nets beating Giannis's Bucks in 2020-21 and we're having a discussion about why is Giannis still in Milwaukee (if he even stays w/o the ring), and why can't he get it done in the playoffs?
Championship dilemma. Win championship. Cant sign role players because theyre too expensive or resign them at a premium. Meaning team depth is compromised. Add it poor draft choices and overpay in Free Agency results in Milwaukee. Same thing with Denver, LA and Toronto
If I'm Giannis im getting out of Milwaukee asap. Dude is averaging 30/12/6 on 63% TS and they are 1 and 5. He and dame have zero on court chemistry and even when dame put up 41/9/4 with 10/15 3pt, they still lost. With doc rivers and Darvin Hamas coaching, I have zero faith they will turn it around either.
I’ll never understand the Bucks freaking out about losing to the 8 seed Heat. The Heat missed a ton of minutes from key role players in the season, Giannis was hurt, and the Heat went to the finals from there. If we had been on the other side of the bracket, the team would not have fired Budenholzer
Dame and Giannis (whether of their own doing or because of coaching) are putting all sorts of NBA Twitter takes to bed. I was told “Give Dame a player of KD’s caliber and he’ll be just like Steph or even better” and, well, womp womp. Also was told “Giannis can play with anybody. He fits seemlessly with any superstar in the league just like KD” and well, womp womp
Giannis, Giannis, Giannis... Trade him. He doesn't screen and doesn't play help-side defence. Steven Adams is a good screener? Good, trade Giannis for Adams and you got your screener MIL. Just do it! Then you can see screens with Brook and Adams! And they won't require the ball as much as Giannis does. I mean the solution is LOOKING right there! LOL. I get the feeling that OKC will accept Giannis for Adams, hopefully without additional assets, so MIL can keep all the assets and run the screens and solve the help-side D as well in one go!
@@Fake-yr9xd I'm trolling but you get the idea 🙂- Giannis is the only who is actually _trying_ out there. Dame plays one time and 3 is nowhere to be found and the rest of the team is slow and old. The two young guys never get the right amount of time and they obviously can't grow playings 3 to 5 minutes. Unfortunately the Bucks are shitshow top to bottom right now, but talking about Giannis given the performance and body language of everybody else is ridiculous.
On point with your analysis. Doc is an overated coach, so he needs to go. Middleton is injury prone and mainly not available, so he needs to go. Dame needs to learn to play off ball and share more or needs to go.
I’m sorry, are you actually saying Dame has never been a PNR playmaker? My guy, him and Nurkic were #1 in pick and roll points for like 3 years. Definitely not the point to be making. The fact is that his two best weapons that can screen for him are absolutely aweful at screening and getting themselves open off those screens.
if Doc Rivers is your NBA coach, your chances for an NBA Championship are in the toilet. But Doc relies on talent to win, and the Bucks offense is a dumpster fire. Guys are not getting to their spots, not setting screens or cutting to the basket, just standing and watching Dame or Giannis operate with the ball in their hands. and Defense is trash to :(.
the start of the season stuff doesn't worry me but WTF...As a person who was born and still lives in Wisconsin I hope they trade him Giannis to Golden State , they messed things up to much , Trading Holiday for Dame feels like one of the worst trades.
@@DavidSmith-ov1ttSounds like a trap game. They want you to bet the Cavs. I just looked up the betting percentage too, and 80% of bets are on Cleveland.
@@chrishosey75352 best players in the game??? I’ll give you benefit of the doubt and say you’re talking about this game specifically, but even that’s wrong. Donovan Mitchell is better than Dame rn
@@Jay_draco Talking about the game specifically, and Dame is literally just a better Donovan. Once his 3pt shooting slump ends, which it most likely will in this game, he'll be clearly ahead, since he's also better at everything else on offense.
This team fucked up majorly. Firing bud making an actually good hire in griffin than downgrading to doc. They also overpaid a lot of mediocre free agents snd overpaid brook. The dame trade looks horrific especially when you look at jrue right now who im taking jrue over dame both now and all time. Plus they have to worry about health and brook slowing down plus giannis isnt getting any younger. they have this and next season probably of a playable brook and khris. The bucks really shit themselves on this trade instead of getting depth and quality role players you are getting a overpriced costar whos regressing heavily and is a liability on defense especially against bigger guards like shai or luka and he gets murdered on switches
Going after an old superstar ALWAYS backfires. Lillard is declining rapidly and does not have his prime offense prowess. Giannis gonna jump ship unfortunately.
The bucks horrendously failed to properly build reliable and responsible backups behind both Giannis & Middleton. All they do is rely on those 2 & fall into a meeseeks blaming system Since 2021, they haven't once built any rookies (wether 1st rd, 2nd rd or undrafted) to be a reliable backup being the two main people they abusiveoy codepend upon. Now they're going to be screwed just as bad as the warriors, clippers & heat once their stars leave. But the sad thing is, spoelstra can turn lemons into daiquiris when he has rookies. Kerr has been exposed constantly for being a horrible coach for the youth movement, and the clippers need to make a deal with the devil to finally absolve their curse
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that 2026 sb collapse video on the giannis era bucks is gonna go so crazy
Thanks for reminding to check out the new one the just dropped about the finals vs Phoenix
Gonna start with PJ Tucker leving since he is one of the core for that chip then followed by the 2022 playoff exit then followed by firing bud then traded Jrue
@@RaidensBoobies17 jeff teague leaving might have be the first major domino tbh
@@pakpaksugar5194 he was a benchwarmer by then cuz he was hoping fron team to team
Also i forgot about Divencenzo piece because he was traded at the 2022 deadline
@@RaidensBoobies17 he was but he’s funny af and seems really cool to have in the locker room. it’ll probably be mentioned less as “this made the team worse on a basketball level” and more “and then the vibes got worse.” maybe the real first domino would be khris middelton getting injured since that was what lead to them losing to the celtics which you could probably argue lead to the dame trade
Are we SURE Mike Budenholzer was the problem?
His half court offence was pretty bad seems like a minor problem compared to now but don’t let that change the fact it was a problem. Despite that I think they fire coach Bud prematurely.
Giannis had won less than a handful of playoff games before Bud. I mean, he's still as skillless as ever and relies on breaking the rules and taking advantage of idiot refs, but he was completely garbage back then.
Won't make a difference either way, he's got Doc, and Dame Lillard is a fucking loser
At this point,was Adrian Griffin even the problem? 17 games above.500 as a rookie coach with room to grow and who admittedly made mistakes,but look at them ever since....
The problem couldn’t be fired or traded as it wasn’t a tangible obvious thing, so they banked on a coaching change fixing it, which it did not.
yes, but the solution is even worse
To give Doc anything more than a 1 year two way contract is insane. Dude should coach for the g league
He stole my catalytic converter
Coach should not even be coaching at a local LA fitness
bro the players on my men's league team wouldn't even respect him. he shouldn't be coaching g league even
That 2008 ring really twisted the perception of him. He does well when he's coaching teams with no expectations (Grant Hill-less Magic, post-Lob City Clippers), but falls off once the roster actually improves. The 2008 Celtics won in spite of him thanks to their sheer talent, Thibs, and a couple of good breaks - a 66-win juggernaut shouldn't be locked in two game 7s in the LEastern Conference.
Someone described Glen Rivers as someone who raises the floor but not the ceiling.
Starting to think the floor dropped with this team though.
Doc Rivers get ready to start learning Chinese buddy
Lol we thought doc was out in 2017 he still going to somehow get another HC job
So you've learned nothing from any of the past decade? At this point, it feels like an NBA law of nature that he's just gonna keep getting hired over and over again, getting passed around like a burnt out joint.
Bucks are paying for 3 coaches at the same time. No way they waist money on a fourth.
@ it’s worth firing another coach if it means keeping Giannis
Off topic but derrick white is getting 18 points shooting 50/40/90 to start the season
Edwards 5+ threes per game
Made threes that is
nah small sample size can give all sort of ridiculous stats averages. It's next to nothing.
KAT is averaging 22 points with 55% FG and 65% from 3.
Is he going to shoot 65% from 3 this whole season? almost certainly not.
When you have small example sizes, you have large variance. Meaning you have super good stats averages... and super bad stats averages.
@@bohanxu6125 kat is inconsistent
@@thecoolrich my point is about that small sample size can create all kinds of extremely good and extremely bad stats.
Ham is why tauren prince getting 30 mins a game on the bucks lol
just tipical darvin ham glazing
love to see a tauren make it to the leauge
I love the guy but he needs a different spot where he can just spot up and tag a roller @@ben10in
Middleton is still injured
@@nicmagtaan1132he still shouldn’t start idiot
Nobody is bringing up the fact that Giannis advocated to hire AND fire Adrian griffin as well as being behind the Jrue holiday trade.
Yeah, these last two years have hurt Giannis' rep in my eyes.
@@shorewall And yet he gets no shit. I have not once heard anyone blame him. He stll gets treated as if he was that wonderkid that nobody expected to become what he has and yet he's been either injured or forced the FO to terrible decisions (not that I'm taking the FO out of their responsibility) but Giannis should get more shit.
@@RawJahI'm all for giving your talent agency in those decisions but they shouldn't be allowed to hire/fire whoever they please or get people out
Giannis was also the one to advocate for holiday trade that brought him to the bucks. Also, Giannis wasn't the only player to not like griffin.
Cummins like these are perfect example of why fans should just watch the games enjoy the games and shut the fuk up. The thing about the internet is it gave the common fan way too much access to information about the team that they don't need and now everybody thinks there's some kind of NBA insider
I see absolutely no reason that Giannis/Dame cant run their own variation of the Jokic/Murray two man game. You may not have quite the passing level of Jokic but Giannis is absolutely no slouch as a playmaker. Its gotta be a chemistry/coaching issue I refuse to believe this duo cant dominate.
Because Giannis is a terrible screen setter and tbh is pretty shitty at doing anything other than slipping on actions. Not a good off ball player
Jokic and Murray have been playing together since both were drafted; their two-man game is part of their basketball DNA at this point and was developed and repped out over a long period of time. Giannis and Dame just became teammates a year ago and have clearly not put in the time and effort necessary to have anything close to that kind of chemistry. They didn't work out together this past off-season, and they didn't have enough time to work out together last off-season because the Dame trade occurred so late in the off-season. Coaching is a part of it, but it's also them. Either they are simply not a good fit, don't have enough time together, or neither of them are willing to sacrifice for the other.
THANK YOU!!!!!! It drives me crazy that they don’t have a pnr game. No dho at all. 😭😭😭
Because Giannis isn’t the great passer/playmaker you think he is, he has horrible tunnel vision and is always trying to go up in the paint while doubled instead of passing out, and when he does pass it, it’s after he’s pushed around until there’s 1 second left before he gets called for standing in the paint too long, so the defense knows the ball is getting kicked out by the time he passes it. Giannis doesn’t make his teammates better, he just draws double teams, which only helps your team if you constantly pass when doubled. Jokic is a less selfish player than Giannis, and that’s what it comes down to. Giannis spends too much time trying to get himself more stats.
Each player would have to sacrifice a little bit for the greater good. Both Giannis and Dame don't seem interested in that. I thought better of either of them. But oh well, it's not like I care about the Bucks.
Say what you want about Embiid vs. Giannis, but when the Sixers got Harden, Embiid went from a guy who never screened to a willing screener. If Giannis isn’t willing to do, he’s a worse player than people give him credit for.
Giannis is built like a football player as well, really aint a excuse
Cool argument, who has the ring
@@lkhguycrazy the guy who needs to kiss Kevin Durants toe, kyries ankle and hardens hamstring for said “ring.”
@@Hooperd2023 Cope harder.
I don't want to hear any crap about his build either. I'm not a big, wide body, but I can set a reasonable screen. Giannis just needs to decide this is something he will get good at.
Should’ve never fired Budenholzer and AND SHOULDVE NEVER traded for Dame they did exactly what my lakers did back in 20-21 season. they lost in the playoffs and they had a knee jerk reaction to it. Trading away Jrue was so dumb, they had a great identity of prioritizing defense first and one bad playoff lost fucked them up
You can say that, but their chances of winning another title were not much better with those two, either. That was literally proven in their last 2 playoff runs. Injuries or not.
@@urbaindelva7869you have holiday. Hali Brunson and Tatum/brown get slowed down. Giannis and brook can trust the point of attack being locked up and they can focus more. Jrue is also statistically a better 3 pt shooter than dame is rn. Dame needs to get his shit together and work on his defense as well. That perimeter defense falls apart since dame can't stop a drop of water defensively
Plus they essentially gave jrue to Boston via Portland making their lives absurdly more difficult than before hand @@urbaindelva7869
@@i_fuze_hostages6 jrue on the bucks woulda been the same as he was before the trade, trash. They don’t win with either
Revisionist history as always..that 2021 chip saved Mike from getting fired earlier.
Fired Budenholzer and then Adrian Griffin even though neither of them were the problem. Got rid of Jrue even though he wasnt the problem. Keep burning Bucks, you deserve every bit of it.
You can say that, but don't act like Budenholzer didn't get himself fired after that collapse against Miami and the multiple other playoff failures prior to that. Adrian Griffin? I agree. They should've stuck it out till the end of the year with him.
Bud was a terrible playoff coach
Bud was the problem
Wow man that Cavs game was so good. Dame and Giannis combine for 75 and they still can’t pull out the win. Their supporting cast really needs to step it up.
PS We are gonna need a dedicated cavs video, they have been too good to ignore
The starters were fine. Just the bench that can’t produce.
What's crazy is that the Bucks shot just over 46% from 3 and still lost...defense against guards, taking care of the ball and making your damn free throws matters🤦🏿
Gary Trent Jr. is about to go into the death note after abysmal performance
Imagine Dame with the Heat, with his friend Butler instead of Giannis, with Eric Spoelstra instead of Doc Rivers, and in Miami instead of Milwaukee. That trade is the most tragic plot twist in the recent NBA.
man I'm a Heat and Suns fan. I'm tired lmao.
Celtics in 5
It's pathetic that Giannis doesn't know how to set a screen
Honestly it's pretty wild seeing him wet noodle every screen like bruh just stay in the spot for a second longer
Run-and-dunk allegations are not getting beaten
fr. bro sets ghost screens and starts immediately running to the hoop while dame aint even open enough to get a good shot off
Yea that's an easy fix Bucks & Giannis should address, but the real problem seems to be that no one seems to know what's going on and that's on Doc
Just lost to cavs after dame and Giannis combined for 75
Now 1-5
This should absolutely be the last team for Doc Rivers to coach. He's an old school coach. I feel like his early success in Orlando and Boston were from a fast team and top heavy team ahead of their times, and he had more energy and innovation back then. The Clippers had bad injury luck, but his time with the Sixers and now Bucks were marked by bad adjustments and usage of his rosters. He's also supposed to be a defensive coach, but clearly isn't keeping to that with this team.
On the 08 Boston team, Coach Thibs was his DC. You could argue that Thib's defense and the humble veteran superteam were responsible, not anything that Doc did.
I feel like we're learning that nearly 100% of those Celtic's successes were due to the fact KG and Paul Pierce finally got to play with another player at their own level and Ray Allen was ahead of his time as a proto-Steph Curry, a playstyle that would come to dominate the league. I know those guys are all humble and coachable, but the reality is the big 3's talents combined with getting a rookie borderline HOF point guard was the recipe for a good 4 year run and a single championship.
@@theperfectdougand they had a top 5 pg of the era in rondo
Doc was always a bad coach. He’s not old school or new school. He’s well connected. That’s all. It’s the worst kept secret in sports.
I'm here after the Mitchell game winner. Bucks 1-5🔥🔥🔥
@7:22 Exactly. This is part of the reason why Bron fans underrate 2 time all star Zydrunas Ilgaskus, and his contribution to the 07 Finals run. In addition to the excellent defense and rebounding he did against Tim Duncan in that 07 finals; he was undeniably an elite screener for LeBron during that run, and for most of the 1st LeBron Cavs Stint.
You may be asking yourself, how did the Milwaukee Bucks go from an NBA Champion and possible reincarnation of the 2000s San Antonio Spurs, TO THIS? The answer can best be described by one man. No its not Doc Rivers, he was thrown straight into the fire. The reason why the Bucks are a mess starts at the top. The moment that Marc Lasry sold his portion of the team, was the moment that this organization jumped the shark. The reasoning wasn't due to him leaving but who took his place. If you thought David Tepper was the worst owner in all of sports, Jimmy Haslam makes him look like a choirboy. If you thought his tenure with the Cleveland Browns is bad enough, this is even worse. Even since he bought the Bucks in 2023, they've become an absolute trainwreck. Remember when he traded the Browns entire future to the Texans for Deshaun Watson and gave him $230M fully guaranteed? HE LITERALLY DID THE EXACT SAME THING WITH DAMIAN LILLARD! Not only did they give up most of their remaining future, but they gave the Celtics, THE DREADED CELTICS Jrue Holiday. No wonder why Boston is about to become possibly the next great dynasty in the NBA. And if they do, you can thank both Haslam and Billy King. Giannis I beg of you. GET OUT OF THERE! Its not because of your relationship with the city of Milwaukee or the organization, get out of there because you don't deserve to have most of your prime wasted thanks to a clown owner who changes philosophies like he changes pants.
They did not give the Celtics Jrue Holiday. The Blazers gave them Holiday.
@@urbaindelva7869 True, but you just get the feeling that they should have kept him.
@@michaelhession2105They could have, but I don't think their chances of winning again were that much better with him.
I've heard that Haslam is planning to give front office control to Doc, so Giannis should really get out of there.
Bucks before Rivers 30-13.
Bucks with Rivers 20-25.
It's Doc Rivers fault.
The league wanted parity and competitive balance so this is what you get. You get teams like Milwaukee and Denver who struggle to put pieces around their star to compete for a second title and you get the best years of their careers wasted playing for uncompetetive teams. I warned everyone I tried to warn you all
This is what you get when teams overplay players. They now don't have money. Don't you find it odd that every player (almost) gets his max contract when it time even when they are even close to being a max player. Paul George has won nowhere. He's usually the reason the team loses as well. Yet teams keep throwing money at him thinking it going to change. Worse he misses more game every year. NBA teams are lucky the NBA does have and actual cap you can't go over, or no team would be good. They only things teams do is throw money at it thinking that will work. Get 3 max guys and you're golden. The other 9 guys don't matter with just need three max guys and the rest can be trash.
@CaseyLynn-i7u lmfao Paul George didn't play for either Denver or Milwaukee tf does that have to do with Nuggets and Bucks squandering the prime of their marquee superstar? Completely irrelevant
I dont quite think you can say Doc has never been a good coach. Whilst he SUCKS with actually good contending teams (Lob City Clippers, Kawhi/PG Clippers, Sixers, current Bucks), he had two very good seasons with the clippers in the transitional period in between the Lob City and Kawhi/PG eras. Those teams were really nothing crazy, but they had a winning record both seasons, and the 2019 Clippers are one of the most overachieving teams I've seen in recent years, taking the Warriors to 6. I'd be surprised if any decent, contending teams sign Doc after this Bucks stint, but I could see him having a good impact on a low level play in team.
Does a lot with little and then nothing with a lot..
Add to that the TMac+random Magic who pushed the 2003 pre-Sheed Pistons into a 3-1 hole as the 8th seed
@@Austin-l1j Exactly. He’s both an overachiever and an underachiever.
So a motivator. Not tactician. Makes sense. Hes probably best for a rebuilding team but I doubt he wants that.
@@thedimedropper9601 Pretty much. Him winning in 08 must’ve inflated his ego way too much to ever sign to a rebuilding/mediocre team. Maybe Milwaukee will blow it all up and he’ll get the chance again.
I don't think Giannis wants to leave, but he ain't stupid. If everyone is healthy come playoff time and they are still gonna be a 1st round exit, Giannis is leaving imo. He knows he has done enough for this organization, but this organization ain't doing nothing for him.
Ah and one thing i wanna say, i don't think Doc is the right coach at all, but if a player of Dames caliber shoots 1/12 and scores only 4 POINTS, even the best coaches would look bad. Dame keeps getting a pass for his performances, cause you all blame the coach for everythink...
First of all, Giannis is a big reason why the Bucks are in this position. His little references and teases to asking for a trade sent the FO into panic mode with their moves. Secondly, who is not blaming Dame? He is literally getting the most blame out of anyone on the roster, more than he deserves.
@@urbaindelva7869 I agree, Giannis isn't getting enough shit for how he is very responsible for this not working. MY alarm bells rang when they egged around about not working out together in the off season. Yeah yeah, Olympics but if this means anything to them, they would find the time. Apparently they both don't care and everything considered, Giannis should care more that it works.
It’s videos like this that really show how much you’ve grown as both an analyst and a presenter. Over the last two or so years you’ve gotten so much better at discussing the nuances of the game and so much better at getting to your point and providing the right kind of information to back it up. It might sound simple, but both your scripted and unscripted work these days is consistently extremely organized, informative, and confident, more than it ever has been.
I agree with a ton of what you’re saying here, and I’ve been so frustrated at the Bucks not consistently running PnR with Dame and Giannis, I lean towards thinking Giannis needs to take a step back, I wish Giannis would bite the bullet and play a more traditional role as a big around a guard who plays very well off of (to the point where he arguably overly relies on) traditional bigs.
Rusty looks like Adam 22s less shameful brother 😂😭
The heck dawg 😂
Shit he'd love to have "the plug" as a sister in law
I feel like everything with the bucks is coming back to karma. Budenholzer being fired and being blamed for the one game when obviously his head wasn't in the right mind after the death of his brother, adrian griffin being fired and some of the players like giannis advocating for it after still a 30-13 start. Also the jrue holiday trade.
That wilt video was amazing. Keep up the grind💯💯
I remember a while ago Gilbert Arenas said giannis doesn’t fully understand basketball.
Obviously I don’t agree 100% with that statement but it’s starting to make a lot more sense now why he thought that way .
Fyi. Coach Bud is 5-1 in Phoenix
This is why I think Draymond Green is still underrated because his screening and playmaking is making buddy hield look like Prime Klay Thompson
Appreciate how detailed u are in these videos
The Miami Heat send their regards😂
They stole dame only to do this shit 😂
Bruuhhh you cant make this shit up
Hey rusty just watched the Wilt Paradox and it was prob some of the best bball content I’ve ever seen! So glad to see how well you’ve done after moving, and I can’t wait to see your channel flourish with all the great work you put in 🎉
How Doc Rivers consistently lands HC jobs is BEYOND me
He's a lockerroom stabilizer, he'll have you playing good reg season basketball. Just don't expect a championship
I HATE to say it but pro sports are RIGGED! This is where Vince Mcma.., I mean the nba sets up the STORYLINE of a trade that gets Giannis out of Milwaukee. They are dying to get Giannis to a big market!
Gonna look back in history at the 2022/23 offseason as an all time overreaction from the MKE front office.
Now just sitting here wondering how many picks OKC gives up for Giannis 😢
Here I am hoping he ends up playing with James Harden 😂
on Bobby Portis, he's been a 6MOY candidate, was moving without the ball, and playing solid defense when Bud was the coach. Rivers and Ham are useless especially together
When people discredit Doc’s ring, they regularly forget to mention one of the biggest points - he had Thibs. Thibs was a huge Iuxury for Doc and that team’s defense. That’s Thibs’ ring as far as I’m concerned lol
I blame Giannis and the front office. Giannis should be getting the same criticism Lebron and AD demanding the front office go after a star player. Imagine if they stayed the course and been healthy last season. Boston was playing down to competition like always because every team had at least one key player out on injury.
Nothing hits more different than listening to Rusty doing chores/hitting the gym/eating dinner/going to sleep
What can fix Milwaukee:
1) Get rid of Brook, Pat, and Bobby Portis.
2) Move Giannis to center.
3) Tell Giannis to screen more.
4) When Kris comes back, if he doesnt stay healthy trade him. Perhaps a trade for Marcus Smart.
5) After all this, if there are still issues, fire Doc. The reason why this should be last is because Milwaukee is still paying their previous coaches. Too much money tied into coached.
Rusty not mentioning AJ Green or Andre Jackson Jr is criminal. All is not lost if Doc actually plays these young guys who have talents we need getting minutes in the rotation. Drop Connaughton minutes to like 6 or less, and limit GTJ to no more than 25 mpg. Split what’s leftover from that between Ajax and Green and BOOM
The Bucks as a team they are in danger of going off the cliff completely. A second apron team with this level of results is a disaster. The Bucks look old and top heavy. The team is overpaying for old players and has no money to fill out the roster with usable depth. The young players on the team (up to this point) provide nothing toward winning. But hey, they're young players!
The team has 3 recent second round picks (Tyler Smith, Andre Jackson, Chris Livingston) taking up roster spots on the 15-man as well as another rookie AJ Johnson taking another spot. You DO NOT WIN in the NBA with your bench full of rookies and unproven second round picks. Also, you have AJ Green an undrafted 3rd year player taking up a roster spot who is basically a one trick pony (he can light it up from 3 in garbage time but is never used when it matters). That's one third of the roster that is unproven or perhaps just plain scrubs. Add in Marjon Beauchamp and that is 6 of the 15 players that provide absolutely nothing right now. Maybe start playing AJ Johnson a little bit more and see what he can do. The Bucks organization is horrible at developing young players lately. When the older and in some cases, injury prone players in the Bucks rotation get hurt (which is bound to happen this season), who off this deep bench is going to step up and keep the ship afloat? Crickets! At least these guys came cheap so the owner can pay less luxury tax!
The Bucks are old. Lopez is 36 so the clock is ticking. Dame is 34 and has had injury issues while only averaging 58 games played per year over the last 5 seasons so the clock is ticking. Middleton is 33 and has only averaged 57 games played per year over the last 5 seasons and what a surprise he's missed the first 6+ games this year so far. Middleton can still play but his All-star years are behind him. He's not worth the money he's being paid. Connaughton is 32 and looks like he may be going off the age cliff right now (his ppg averages over the last 3 years are 9.9, 7.6, 5.6 and so far, this year 3.8 ppg on 26% from three. Prince (great FA pickup) he's playing well but the team is still struggling with him hitting 54% from three. That will regress toward his career average of 38% so someone else will have to pick up the slack eventually. Delon Wright is 32 and appears to also be going off the age cliff (his ppg averages over the last 4 years are 10.2, 4.4, 7.4, 4.5 and so far, this year 2.5 ppg). With young players providing nothing and older rotation players showing that the clock is ticking is it any wonder why the rumors of Giannis wanting out are continuing to pop up? Can you blame him?
Now to Giannis. Superstar. One of the top 5 or 10 most coveted players in the entire league. He's also the easiest Superstar for other teams to scheme against defensively. This is his turning age 30 NBA season, so he basically is who he is at this point. Career 3 point % is just 28.6%. Giannis shooting from outside doesn't scare anybody. The majority of his offensive philosophy is "Put my head down and bull rush to the rim and bitch to the ref when I don't get a foul call." If opposing teams have a chance to set up their half-court defense against Giannis, he is a much less effective player. Fouling him is a good strategy on his bull rushes because he leaves a lot of points at the line. He's shooting just 53% from the line so far this year which is the worst of his career, and he goes to the line a lot, so the low percentage isn't because of a small sample size. Giannis hasn't made a three-point shot yet this season in six games. WTF? His steal and block numbers are down this year with current averages thru six games both at the lowest of his entire career. His personal foul average is up at 3.5 per game so far which is the highest average of his career. It's early but Giannis' statistical performance looks a little strange to start this season. You have to hope it isn't a sign of something bigger being wrong.
I'm a bucks fan and I love Giannis, it's disheartening how his abandoned his mid ridge after winning the chip. The one year he improved in that, they won.
Giannis not being able to shoot ruins the duo of him and dame together Dame would rather call brook for a screen
I dont say this often. I swear i dont. But we have no money to make moves. We have aging stars and a terrible coach. We reallt should just blow it up. There's nothing that can be done to really turn us to a title contender.
Taurean Prince must have some dirt or something on Darvin Ham. Bro is averaging 31 mins a game.😂
Maybe I missed this but I think you are missing their main problem. Giannis is big and long-legged. He needs a ton of room to operate. Throw in slow-footed Brook Lopez also taking up tons of space and it's very hard to build an effective offense with such limited space if Giannis is going to initiate from the 3-point line.
as a bucks fan, i think the main problem with this team is that we can’t seem to stay composed for 4 quarters. also our role players aren’t anywhere where they were offensively in 2022
I really dunno what the else bucks expected with the wombo combo of darvin hamas and rivers MD
This aged well
New coach asap for the bucks. They’re wasting Giannis’ prime.
Dame isn't a passing PG. He's a drive and kick player tbh. What made CJ and Dame dangerous albeit a defense void backourt, was CJ's ability to ball handle and pull some defenders to him. He can't have a backcourt whos a stationary player. They really need a PG. Tyus jones would've stabilized the team. They would've spammed Giannis and Dame PNR if it would've been effective.
dame has always been successful with big body screeners. hes more in his element when lopez is the screener. giannis rolls to quick when he screens.
They gave everything they had and still couldn’t beat the Cavs. In their defense the Cavs look insane this year
Yeah no giannis and dame played a perfect game and still lost that games cooked
*team
Someone on twitter said Dame and Giannis probably dont even speak outside of basketball and i 100% agree
As a raptors fan I feel like I was the only one that didn't want GTJ on our team cuz this guy does NOT produce. Good vet presence but the buck wasn't looking for that 🤷♂
They never should’ve fired budenholzer
1-6 Bucks
Doc should never coach a team again. Also Dame is overrated af
it so weird that he keeps getting hired
Dame is only getting hate for the past two years, how is he overrated lmao
How has dame been bad at all this season. He’s been great. Y’all look at the record and just pick someone to blame because you don’t watch the actual games. Atleast look up stats if you’re not gonna watch games either
@@trikelikesfishbecause people act like he’s some great all time player and dude never had a finals appearance or an MVP award.
1000% agree with you about Doc. Put him back behind the broadcasters table
I've been through a divorce recently myself. It hurts but my thoughts are with you. STAY STRONG RUSTY.
Why did anyone think it would be. Doc sucks as a HC. That was a bad hire. Keep trading away trade to get old, overrated players like Lillard. The Bucks players who actually play are now old and slow. Even Gianis all though still great isn't the same on defense he was 3 years ago. Rivers as your HC and an old roster core that no one plays no defense. Good luck.
Rusty. Maybe you should pull a jj Reddick and coach the Bucks?
Defensive teams have that tendency to think they are an offensive team with time because they end up scoring more than the other team most of the time. And then S*** hit the fan.
As a Bucks fan, I knew right away that the Doc hire was a mistake, but it's actually been worse than I even could have imagined. I'd say it'd be hilarious if he got traded as a coach for a second time, but he literally doesn't have any observable value at this point. No other team would possibly be that misguided.
Since 2016-17 when Giannis became a superstar, the Bucks have lost in the first round 4 times. That's 50% of the time.
Imagine any superstar getting this much slack for not making it passed the 1st round.
We get Joel Embiid so much crap out of not making it to the ECF but if a ball bounces another way, another shot goes in, we're talking about Durant's Nets beating Giannis's Bucks in 2020-21 and we're having a discussion about why is Giannis still in Milwaukee (if he even stays w/o the ring), and why can't he get it done in the playoffs?
Hot take: Give Rusty Buckets a two year contract
Championship dilemma. Win championship. Cant sign role players because theyre too expensive or resign them at a premium. Meaning team depth is compromised. Add it poor draft choices and overpay in Free Agency results in Milwaukee. Same thing with Denver, LA and Toronto
Bucks figured it out last night. No more defense, we gotta outscore our opponents
If I'm Giannis im getting out of Milwaukee asap. Dude is averaging 30/12/6 on 63% TS and they are 1 and 5. He and dame have zero on court chemistry and even when dame put up 41/9/4 with 10/15 3pt, they still lost. With doc rivers and Darvin Hamas coaching, I have zero faith they will turn it around either.
I’ll never understand the Bucks freaking out about losing to the 8 seed Heat. The Heat missed a ton of minutes from key role players in the season, Giannis was hurt, and the Heat went to the finals from there. If we had been on the other side of the bracket, the team would not have fired Budenholzer
Dame and Giannis (whether of their own doing or because of coaching) are putting all sorts of NBA Twitter takes to bed. I was told “Give Dame a player of KD’s caliber and he’ll be just like Steph or even better” and, well, womp womp. Also was told “Giannis can play with anybody. He fits seemlessly with any superstar in the league just like KD” and well, womp womp
Giannis, Giannis, Giannis... Trade him. He doesn't screen and doesn't play help-side defence. Steven Adams is a good screener? Good, trade Giannis for Adams and you got your screener MIL. Just do it! Then you can see screens with Brook and Adams! And they won't require the ball as much as Giannis does. I mean the solution is LOOKING right there! LOL.
I get the feeling that OKC will accept Giannis for Adams, hopefully without additional assets, so MIL can keep all the assets and run the screens and solve the help-side D as well in one go!
Good thing ur not a gm
@@Fake-yr9xd I'm trolling but you get the idea 🙂- Giannis is the only who is actually _trying_ out there. Dame plays one time and 3 is nowhere to be found and the rest of the team is slow and old. The two young guys never get the right amount of time and they obviously can't grow playings 3 to 5 minutes.
Unfortunately the Bucks are shitshow top to bottom right now, but talking about Giannis given the performance and body language of everybody else is ridiculous.
Side note
THAT WILT VIDEO IS FIRE
Dame and Giannis not playing pick and roll is just baffling.
On point with your analysis. Doc is an overated coach, so he needs to go. Middleton is injury prone and mainly not available, so he needs to go. Dame needs to learn to play off ball and share more or needs to go.
I’m sorry, are you actually saying Dame has never been a PNR playmaker? My guy, him and Nurkic were #1 in pick and roll points for like 3 years. Definitely not the point to be making. The fact is that his two best weapons that can screen for him are absolutely aweful at screening and getting themselves open off those screens.
Just get Giannis to Golden State already.
if Doc Rivers is your NBA coach, your chances for an NBA Championship are in the toilet. But Doc relies on talent to win, and the Bucks offense is a dumpster fire. Guys are not getting to their spots, not setting screens or cutting to the basket, just standing and watching Dame or Giannis operate with the ball in their hands. and Defense is trash to :(.
TRADE both Giannis and Dame. Clear cap space, obtain draft picks and serviceable players in trades and start a rebuild.
the start of the season stuff doesn't worry me but WTF...As a person who was born and still lives in Wisconsin I hope they trade him Giannis to Golden State , they messed things up to much , Trading Holiday for Dame feels like one of the worst trades.
Trade Dame to the Heat. He and Tyler Hero and go CRAZY chucking shots.
The Heat are not much better of a situation for Dame. They never were.
@urbaindelva7869 bro its not about being a good fit. Its about wanting to see 70/465 shooting after a game
35% from 3 for a center on 5 attempts is great. Idk what you expect
C'mo, guys, lets go!!1 *signs multiyear multimillion contract*
The Wilt video was really good.
Them getting rid of adrian stilll baffles me. Doc on his last limb as far as head coach positions go.
I blame Giannis for there failures this season and last season for pulling a LeBron with Kevin Durant results
I panicked the moment they fired Bud. I knew immediately that they were going to go downhill from that.
On draft kings the cavs are underdogs lol
Yeah, the Bucks are probably winning. A far more talented roster with the two best players in the game.
@@chrishosey7535I don't see that happening, dame and giannis still aren't gelling and as long as they've still got doc rivers i like the cavs chances
@@DavidSmith-ov1ttSounds like a trap game. They want you to bet the Cavs. I just looked up the betting percentage too, and 80% of bets are on Cleveland.
@@chrishosey75352 best players in the game??? I’ll give you benefit of the doubt and say you’re talking about this game specifically, but even that’s wrong. Donovan Mitchell is better than Dame rn
@@Jay_draco Talking about the game specifically, and Dame is literally just a better Donovan. Once his 3pt shooting slump ends, which it most likely will in this game, he'll be clearly ahead, since he's also better at everything else on offense.
This team fucked up majorly. Firing bud making an actually good hire in griffin than downgrading to doc. They also overpaid a lot of mediocre free agents snd overpaid brook. The dame trade looks horrific especially when you look at jrue right now who im taking jrue over dame both now and all time. Plus they have to worry about health and brook slowing down plus giannis isnt getting any younger. they have this and next season probably of a playable brook and khris. The bucks really shit themselves on this trade instead of getting depth and quality role players you are getting a overpriced costar whos regressing heavily and is a liability on defense especially against bigger guards like shai or luka and he gets murdered on switches
Dumb and dumber is hilarious
As a long time Dame hater, I've never felt more vindicated. Knew his game would not fit next to another superstar
Ric carlow who won in 2011 with Mavs is still coaching for the pacers what’s his record? Why he doesn’t get the same flak
He should he’s a bad coach. Doesn’t coach team chemistry and picks favorites.
I mean Carlisle just took the pacers to the ECF many in Boston would say that the pacers was the toughest series that year
Carlisle just made the ECF?
What are you even talking about? 😂
Going after an old superstar ALWAYS backfires. Lillard is declining rapidly and does not have his prime offense prowess. Giannis gonna jump ship unfortunately.
its time for you to make a video on the thunder.
Maybe Damian lillard isn’t as good as we think.
The bucks horrendously failed to properly build reliable and responsible backups behind both Giannis & Middleton.
All they do is rely on those 2 & fall into a meeseeks blaming system
Since 2021, they haven't once built any rookies (wether 1st rd, 2nd rd or undrafted) to be a reliable backup being the two main people they abusiveoy codepend upon.
Now they're going to be screwed just as bad as the warriors, clippers & heat once their stars leave. But the sad thing is, spoelstra can turn lemons into daiquiris when he has rookies. Kerr has been exposed constantly for being a horrible coach for the youth movement, and the clippers need to make a deal with the devil to finally absolve their curse
Damian Lillard is one of the worst defenders of all time.
Based on observable reality.