I'm in the crowd that hates when players rush back from injury. I'd rather someone come back at a better time for their team rather than play injured and not perform well. If all your playoff hopes go down the drain with a singular player, then there should be questions about the roster and coaching staff.
That will never happen guess why money and fans, fans don’t realize how often these guys rush back from injuries, when do we hold the front office accountable
Like the 1st stint Cavs LeBron it took them losing LeBron in 2010 to realize how much Bron made them look like competent role players it showed the significant drop off from 2010 vs 2011 Cavs team
@@michaelpaullang4401 Exactly. The problems of the insane ticket prices and stats missing games is one of the league’s problems, and front offices moreover. It’s not on players to decide the shit fans deal with
@@Jonathan-A.C. yeah but they were still 1st in 2010 just won 6 games less from 66 to 60 Larry Bird spitted facts about when trading for a LeBron team he knew some of those role players were ass only looked great because setting them up in the correct places
i am the worlds foremost scholar on hating the sixers and Joel Embiid. but you leave his family out of your criticisms, say hes a dirty player who hurts other players on purpose. call him lazy call him a playoff choker all you want. these are things you can say about his game that are (potentially) valid critisisms. talking about his deceased brother and his SON. is despicable, that reporter should be fired and hes lucky all he got was a shove. Embiid is massive and could probably hospitalize the reporter if he wanted to.
@@kyleshuler2929swear people think they can talk to these dudes any type of way and label it as criticism jus cause there making millions like there not talking to a human at the end of the day but if it was other way around
@@alsorustybucketsjust so you know the writer did write it was a punch, responding to a comment. Then deleted the tweet after shams said there were no punch
Shaq and Chuck literally come from an era that was extremely uneducated on the human body, that's why so many of em are broken and have trouble moving around in their older years. It's like old tradies that give me crap for trying to look after my body while they are on painkillers daily and complain to anyone with a set of ears about how sore they are.
Ngl we still are terribly uneducated about thr human body, the league sped up and people load manages, and they got hurt anyway, but also people overtrained and pushed through injury's like crazy and it also clearly didnt work i the long term They gotta find a way to prevent the chrinic injures early on, and also find a way to know when atletes need to not play, in soccer there are blood work measurements that identify when a player is nearing injury, looks like the nba been freestyling this too much
@@luizansounds totally agree that we still know fuck all but in comparison to their days we know so so much more, the average fan gets too caught up in the whole well if they handled why can't he sort of thing. Everyone is different, some of us are made of glass and some are made of steel. Is what it is.
@@meh7348 the last stuff w kawhi specially shows that probably the training regiment might cause it because he didnt start injury prone (unlike enbiid) and the lack if individualization in training {meaning specific training for different bodies and injury needs} and players shedding their bodies to the ground when they are young is the cause if this recent boom of injuries alongside the lack of condition to properly play long streches
They were talking about the job that they were paid to do and that was playing basketball. If preserving your body means you can't see any superstar players most of the regular season then it's no wonder the ratings are going to shit. Just cancel the league at this point if we can't watch the players play the fucking game. I'm sorry but I'm done with this bs and people defending load management. Okay if you're hurt obviously you can't play but resting to prevent injuries is just fucking stupid and annoying. I'm paying to watch these games and I get my time wasted watching these teams play with their mid players all the time. What NBA did to the regular season awards should be applied to player salaries. If you can't play 80% of games your salary is cut by half (unless you're injured - you get medical leave then). They get paid the amount of money regular people can't even comprehend and they sit out game after game in their fancy clothes and it's just blatant showcase of entitlement and disrespecting the fans who made it possible for you to earn that money in the first place. Stop. Defending. These. Soft. Ass. Players.
@@meh7348 Shaq played 19 seasons. Only 5 of them are 75+ games and 7 of them are 70+games. Outside of Shaqs first 3 seasons, where he only missed a combined 5 games, he missed a ton of seasons. Obviously nowhere to Embiids level but Shaq is not Embiid.
I don’t like Embiid. I don’t think he deserved mvp. It’s undenyable that he is one of the greatest basketball players in the world and a contender for the greatest player to never make the finals. That reporter deserved to get his shit rocked. These internet people can’t just be harassing players behind the screen and talking about one of the largest and strongest humans on earth expecting not only no repricussions but also to earn money from the article.
That last sentence in particular. What did he think would happen if he'd spoke to Embiid in this context? I think that reporter isn't just disrespectful, he is just plain stupid to do so.
Embiid was mad because the reporter made him look stupid. Don't say you don't care what anyone says about immediately after showing that you care what people say about you.
Yeah and it being initially reported as a punch really colors the situation. I'm totally out of the sixers loop and initial reports made it sound like Embiid took a dudes head off for nothing. Not to say it's all chill but you are ASKING for it talking about a man like that.
I'm so glad you are bringing up the human aspect of this. Embiid hears it all from Philly even though the 76ers were in The Process when he arrived. It must be so difficult for him to change from the hero that saved the organization to the scapegoat. From getting the love Philly has to offer to all of the scorn of not doing enough.
This is probably the worst franchise for him to land on. Still, he is not without fault at all. If he had been a better man all of his career, shown character, none of these criticisms would even exist.
@pinobluevogel6458 that is very true. Philly is ruthless when the expectation is to win. I'm not saying he is without fault. But he's the one who flipped this organization around. When you draft Okafor, Fultz, Simmons, trade Mikal on draft night, and pay Tobias Harris over 30 mil. It's not going to end well. Embiid has his share of the blame, but when you have dysfunction around you, it's hard to function.
@@pinobluevogel6458 shown some character ? You mean like paying all the staff workers for Well’s Fargo during covid when the owner decided not to ? Embiid has shown AMAZING character off the court but the media doesn’t tell you that. Do your own research.
@@Bkzflyest0823 Why is it my problem that the media doesn't tell me those things? I'm not going to research Joel Embiid, I got better things to do, like watching actual basketball, this drama doesn't interest me in the slightest. All I've ever seen from Embiid is good basketball, coupled with a ton of injuries, a big dropoff in every postseason, a lot of conditioning issues, some foul play on the court and some questionable language off the court in interviews. If that is what media gives me, that is what I know. Go complain against them if you think they should do a better job communicating. I just have to base my opinion on what is presented and it isn't great.
The way I see it, the shove was understandable and probably even morally acceptable, however it just can’t be condoned by either the Sixers or the league. You can’t set a precedent that violence, even something as small as a shove, is an acceptable reaction to words, even if they are horrible and inappropriate.
Sure, but in order for it to be both effective and understandable for Embiid to be punished for getting physical, the reporter must also be punished for stepping out of line in his article. Which is just difficult since Embiid and the reporter are employed by two different companies. Sixers and NBA PR teams will want a quick decision to get it over with, but the people in charge of disciplinary actions may want to wait to make sure they're making a decision that sends the right message here.
@@albericponcedeleon2696He didn’t step out of line. He literally said Embiid says that he wants to leave a great legacy for his son who is named after his brother who was killed in a car accident. That legacy is clearly important to him. But to be great at your job you have to show up. There’s literally nothing out of line about the article. If you think it’s hurtful, you’re just soft AF and this world is going to eat you alive.
No, you can. What he did was acceptable. You don’t act like that, period. It’s not acceptable that the reporter acts that way. Certainly not that he keeps his job. Not acceptable management treated it that way. Talk to me about that before talking about a shove being uncalled for
@@kevinc8955 No it isn’t, don’t bs bro. You aren’t Embiid. The article wasn’t even said in any respectful manner. It’s using things that are not his business, in a context where it’s not necessary to mention, and said in a way that’s not deliberately trying to be as respectful as possible. If you still feel this way, you’re just bootlicking
I agree with plenty of your take… but “all I’ve done for this city” what’s he referring to exactly? Doing his job? Getting paid to play basketball and playing a few seasons worth of games in a decade? Is it the confrence titles and the winning culture? The positive mentality? The leadership? I would like to know. He is an excellent player, and doesn’t deserves the treatment from that reporter and comment about his family that’s absolute garbage behavior. You can’t be injury prone and overweight and be whiny and then expect to get treated like superstars that are available when they’re needed. And on playing while injured… when else can he play, if he didn’t play injured when would he earn that 50M per year?
Joel Embid is overweight for an athlete relative to height when he spends time out injured. And yes he hasn't won for the city but let's not pretend he doesn't have a higher chance of going somewhere else and winning (not guaranteed) much easier (as a 2nd or 3rd option for slightly less pay) than Philly getting his replacement and challenging. Embid's presence in Philly and their consistent playoff appearances keep a lot of people employed and making bread in Philly for the local area.
I am genuinely confused at why you think he hasn’t done a lot for his city? He plays his hardest basketball for the 76ers and is constantly playing through injuries just to give his team a chance at playoff hopes. People don’t often understand how much he plays through injuries and if he wanted to just be a Ben Simmons and never play for the past 3 years he could. Not every team can win a championship and he’s done a lot for the team with how much he’s had to overcome imo 🤷♂️
“I’ve done too much for this city” = You can’t blatantly disrespect and personally attack the only reason your franchise has had any type of relevance for the past decade. No Embiid isn’t a model superstar and his best ability is far from availability. I’m not even a huge fan of his at all but you can’t just do the whole “he gets paid to play so stfu” It doesn’t matter if he’s a $5 or $5,000,000 work horse. He’s your PRIZE fucking work horse at the end of the day. He could be a bitch like Ben Simmons.. The team lives and dies with Biid. Which is really a GM issue and not a “him” issue.
I think my main cricism of him is actually that he is, like Ben Simmons, a soft player in many respects, showing weakness of character most of all; Flopping everytime to gain freethrows (which is dangerous, especially at his weight and size), talking smack to the media, boasting about his achievements, complaining about a lot, except being critical at himself in the process.
@@pinobluevogel6458he doesn’t flop. Flopping is jumping on the ground. He sometimes flails you show there is contact. I don’t know what you watch of embiid because of all my team watching him. He doesn’t act over confident. Like Jordan said can you talk big when you’re down/losing a lot of guys in the league don’t do that. It shows his confidence in himself and his skill. Most of the sixers playoff failures are not due to him. His supporting cast has always been an issue, Ben Simmons, Tobias Harris, Markelle Flutz. What achievements does he boast about. Other players got championed for the very same thing. I understand everyone has players they like and dislike but when you don’t try minimise your bias against for sake of talking the facts.
@@Joshua-qc1li I could be overreacting to what I've seen from him and bias is certainly involved, but this opiniion, however limited, is formed over many year of him in the league and the more I watched him, the more I saw stuff I didn't like, including all the things I mentioned in my post. And he certainly does flop, he falls over way too easily for a player his weight and size. Even if it is legit and he is put on the ground by force, he should strengthen his core so he isn't downed so easily. Not only is it annoying to watch people fall over for no reason other than to bait freethrows, it is also dangerous if you're so heavy and big, potentially giving unnecessary injury risk. And I don't think he behaves like a good rolemodel at all outside the court as well. Even in this interview, where he is clearly in the right as that reporter disrespected him for no reason and used his famility in inappropriate context, he comes off as a bit of an asshole. Saying stuff like 'I've done too much for this city' is just not classy. He gets paid millions of dollars to work this hard and he is not doing more than any other NBA stars in the league. I think he might actually be doing less, but that is ofcourse up to debate and I can't fairly judge that. Now I'm not saying this because it is up to me, or that my opinion matters much in this situation, I'm saying he should be a rolemodel and be a better man. If he cleaned up his act, at some point the dirt everyone is throwing at him is going to slow down and (hopefully) stop. He should be an inspiring force for young children to play basketball, not whatever the hell he is now. It would certainly benefit him and all the millions of people he affects in his life. And you don't even have to be an approachable media personality, just do the minimal that is required of you and let your basketball do the talking, which is something Embiid is certainly capable of.
@@Joshua-qc1liexcept he does flop and there is an entire montage of him flopping. we don’t need you to redefine what the word flopping means in layman usage, as whatever definition you may use, flopping refers to a player exaggerating the impact of any contact made with them and Embiid is currently the biggest perpetrator of this in the NBA. he also plays dirty and constantly boasts about his achievements in an effort to hide the blemishes in his career. saying things like he could have been the GOAT if it weren’t for injuries without ever having been to a conference final? and it’s not like he’s saying that behind closed doors because that would be different. anyone can pose any what-ifs behind closed doors. however, when you get on a podcast that is made to broadcast to thousands of people, and you get on there and start spewing these hypotheticals without there being any concrete evidence of what you’re saying, you are clearly aiming to push a narrative and just end up appearing delusional. with that said, embiid doesn’t deserve to be bombarded by hate comments from his own fanbase because he is the best thing to happen to the sixers since AI and is the one who’s brought them any sort of relevancy. apart from his personality and on-the-court antics, embiid deserves appreciation from sixers fans for the attention and hope he’s brought their team regardless of whether they’ve gone all the way or not.
@@Joshua-qc1lithat game 6 and 7 against the hawks is most definitely on embiid. people like to say it was ben simmons fault for losing against the hawks as if embiid didn’t go scoreless in the final quarter of that game against one of the worst defenses in the league. that was his ticket to play against giannis in the conference finals as healthy as ever and he choked in the last quarter. his playoff numbers and efficiency consistently drop from his regular season stats. embiid is a playoff choker.
Funny enough, Shaq spent most of his career injured. In his 20 seasons in the NBA, he played less than 70 games 13 times. He played less than 60 games in 9 of those seasons. And he played less than 50 games in 5 of those seasons!
@@SorelsSon If we are 100% fair, the context provided by the reporter was entirely unnecessary to the point he was making. But equally, Embiid could’ve used words to handily make that guy feel ashamed of himself and the whole internet would have stood behind him and probably forced the reporter to apologize (whether necessary or not is another discussion).
I know he didn't punch him, but Rusty said it would have excused a punch? A punch is assault. An NBA player cannot be assaulting the press regardless of what they said. He did not have every right to do so.
@@BiggieTrismegistusThe shove was directly related to that jackass bringing up his family. If that reporter had never brought up his family, Embiid wouldn't have done anything just because he said "yes you do" about Embiid caring about what people say. If you think the article about his family is an unrelated thing you're an idiot.
For as much as I dislike Embiid, especially on the floor for all the foul bating and dirty play, he was 1000% in the right to punch the reporter. Where I'm from (Naples) you criticize performances and drive to win, but you NEVER touch someone's family unless you want the shit beat out of you. Honestly mad respect to Embiid for not kicking the shit out the reporter, that should get either fined or let go of. What he said was (IMO) rancid, and if I were his boss I'd come to openly criticize and/or fire him.
I hate him because of his flopping. I recognize the fact that he’s played through injury after injury after injury. A lot of them would be solved if he played with less flopping but that’s my opinion.
The comments against Embiid load managing makes sense when you see where the team is now. Ofc playoffs are the most important thing, but you need to get there first and if you can get a high seed you will have home court (and seeing Embiid's performances in past playoffs, homecourt suits him better). While Embiid is managing, Maxey is carrying this team and they are still 1 and 4 against normal a** teams, not contenders... Agree with the Hayes thing tho. F**k that guy...
The problem is Embiid can’t stay healthy over a full season, would you rather them be a good seed and fizzle out again because everyone is injured? Or be a low seed but be true contenders with an actually healthy Joel Embiid?
@trikelikesfish Id rather have both lol! What I mean is, load management is not bad but complwtely sidelining him feels like an overcorrection. He doesnt have to put 35 min per game with a usage of 40% like last season, but at least play good minutes for your team and the fans; he is the face of the Process and he is in sweats while his team loses to the flipping Bucks. Last season, Harden was gone and Maxey was finding his place in the offense. Right now, PG is back and Maxey is playing like an all-star from the getgo; they can take the load of carrying the offense from Embiid and he can play close to 20 min, ride the paint a bit more and score a bit less
Embiid had like one healthy postseason. They looked like they could win it all if it weren't for Kawhi going nuclear It literally took one of the ten greatest postseason performances and the only series sealing game winner in history to stop Embiid, when he was healthy Addition: I'm very wrong lol Got a little bit of activity, though, so I won't delete 👌 😂 I'll hold my L 💀
What in the revisionist history even is this comment 🤣 Embiid averaged 17.6/8.6/3.3 on 37% from the field and 34% from 3 with 4 Turnovers per game against the Raptors Quite literally THE reason why the 76ers lost that series was BECAUSE Embiid played like hot garbage 🤣
@@supercasualgamer513 What do you mean "run"???? It was a just first round series LMAO If anything your comments just prove how completely devoid of any resemblance of playoff success Embiid has had in his career.
He is criticized because he has shown up short in the playoffs year after year and he makes 50 million a year and is supposed to be the leader of the team.
Bro maybe one of the best takes I’ve ever heard you have. Thank you for caring about people as people. Honestly makes me mad how they treat these athletes. I hope that nameless reporter gets fired.
Yeah reported did bad take but we live in a word now where you can hit or touch someone just because of words. That been the standard for a while. I don’t agree with it fully but just pointing it out.
I strongly dislike Embiid, but what people are saying, what that “reporter” wrote, is mind bogglingly unfair to the guy. Call him dirty, foul baiting, a fraud, sure. Bringing up his dead brother and implying he chooses not to suit up? Thats just ridiculous man
The thing that weirds me out about Philly media with Joel is that they act like he’s gone completely AWOL when they know better than anyone that this is a systemic plan that was agreed upon by the entire franchise. I get not liking the lack of transparency on what seems to be holding him back from playing but it’s completely disingenuous when they put the entirety of the blame on him despite morey and nurse saying they signed off on the plan as well
@@pinobluevogel6458they're 1 and 6 now. If they don't do something soon they won't be able to dig themselves out of the hole in time for the playoffs.
I have a strong feeling that the Sixers org. responded that way likely to avoid lawsuits and to just put the fire out. But if that's not the case, it's pretty messed up they wouldn't take Joel's side. They could've at least been more neutral in their opinion
I feel like people have been twisting the phrase "he brought up my family / brought my family into this". The phrase originally means like the other guy is insulting the guy's family... and this is bad. However, the phrase is twisted here into "He said he is trying to be a great franchise player for his son, but he didn't play like a great franchise player". This is not very problematic. I mean sure... brining family into this, is kind of irrelevant. However, we should not conflate our response to this with our response to "he brought my family into this (as in he is insulting my family)". The reporter is simply antagonizing Embiid in his article, and brought up his family in a pretty irrelevant but non-offensive way. Embiid punched the report because he couldn't handle the antagonization, while the "brought up my family" is essentially an irrelevant excuse that is different from the typical "It is bad to bring up someone's family by insulting the family". It is Embiid who is mostly at fault for unable to tolerate antagonizing reporting which is normal and not a very bad thing in sport media. The reporter simply mentioned something mostly irrelevant, which is not that big of a deal, and doesn't justify physical violence in any form, regardless how unharmful the shoving is.
Most players who are over around 250 lbs get injured alot. Players over that weight who get lower body injuries have an even higher risk for new injuries. Joel Embiid was injured before he entered the league. It is a miracle of modern sports medicine that he gets to keep playing at all.
Been watching Rusty for quite sometime and to see him start to defend and treat Embiid reasonably is super nice. Im a Embiid Fan, i know he’s an ass , rude and not everyones favorite but its insane to see the bs treatment he gets when he puts himself on the line for Philly every game and does what he does. Thank you Rusty
Man, even as someone who doesnt like Embiid because of his flagrants and doing stuff like pulling Robinson down on his legs, that Hayes article was so out of line. 76ers should have banned the dude for it to both back their player and prevent any incident
@@TheMykr0Saying someone else is disgracing or dishonoring their son and deceased brother is out of line. It doesn't matter at all that Embiid has said he wants to leave a legacy for them. That doesn't give this schmuck reporter the right to use their names to attack Embiid. That's objectively disrespectful regardless of the context. Keep it to ball and leave family out of it.
I really appreciate the stance Rusty takes in a lot of these videos when it comes to emphasising the headspace and wellbeing of a lot of these players. People often forget that the NBA isn't some reality TV show. These are real people with real emotions behind them. "Oh but they make millions just to play basketball" like having money invalidates your right to being treated like a human being.
Jacob missing the point like always when it comes to superstar players. Embiid is constantly injured BECAUSE he doesn't take care of his body . People are still sh*tting on Luka fir the exact same thing but Joel doesn't. If he wasn't out of shape every start of the season and played himself in shape he wouldn't be gassed as much and this injury prone every year
I get your point but also it's difficult to stay in shape when you're always injured 😅 also not everyone can get into shape playing mid way through the season cause you'll get injured and the cycles repeat. Kinda like Zion. Not defending Embid, he should be in shape that's his job. But still injuries is something to take into account
If someone says something to you that’s hurtful and mean and uncalled for at your job and you push or shove them, you’re going to get in trouble. The person that said those things will also get in trouble. They both should/will get punished from the NBA.
if minimum wage workers have to bite their tongue whenever someone says something disrespectful to them, then professional athletes sure as shit do too
@@AmariAaron look at the people drafted during that time too. Okafor, Simmons, Fultz, Noel. They drafted Mikal Bridges to trade him for Zhaire Smith. They never got it right around him and he's the one to blame
@@colemilz You can't blame the organisation either on that tbf, Simmons and Fultz were both consensus Number 1 lottery picks. If Fultz kept his shot and Simmons his spine, they could have went far.
@@pacquac9958 id say frequent injuries could be an organizational problem. If players can't heal properly it's the job of the training staff to find a way to get them back. It can't just be the players to blame for injuries where the rehab process was the problem getting back to playing. But that's definitely a good point. Everyone would've been asking questions if they passed up those two
Absolutely no need for the reporter to bring up his deceased brother, that’s pretty clear. However, if roles were reversed where a reporter shoved a player over something similar, everyone would come unhinged. Joel is acting like he’s a public servant to the city of Philly, if he was really concerned with being available for “the city” he wouldn’t have played in the Olympics and would have focused more on being available for the start of the season. I think the organization needs to be held accountable, why in the F was Joel playing 30+ minutes per game, last playoffs seemed like dude never came out. The whole “new norm” of not playing back to backs is so BS, the new norm would be for him to actually play most of the season and be in shape, geez!!!!
To be fair, he cannot easily play 30+ minutes a game, as he gets gassed if he does. Most centers and especially players his size, should just play less minutes to compensate for their extreme energy use.
Just because he has antics and plays dirty, that doesn't mean he can't be in the right here. I think he has a good case that this reporter has been highly disrespectful and unnecessarily so. But for sure Embiid has no right to boast he has done everything in his power and certainly he hasn't been the best rolemodel at all with his actions. You reap what you sow. If he wants to get treated better, he needs to clean up his own act before that is going to change. In this case, I think he has a valid point, but being a more immaculate player could have been a way better way to prevent all of this in the first place.
Joel Embiid is made of glass and will be the 2nd player in the NBA to win MVP and not make the hall of fame (D-Rose being first) But then again, the basketball hall of fame is a joke. They’ll both make it.
good on you for understanding both sides of the story. people have been harsh on joel for not playing, so they take it out on him like this. had this been a separate event, I'm sure people would've investigated the cause of the shove, for as huge embiid is, he's just a troll for fun
Fuck outta here 😂 yall love insulting people and want them to act like it's okay. Bro lucky he said ts to Embiid cause a shove too little for disrespecting the dead.
I agree he made his point clear and respectfully, but still a lot of people in these comments take offense. I'd prefer it if Rusty had stayed away from the subject, as probably nothing good comes out of it.
As a Sixer fan I'm just over all of the bs that happens with this team. We can never have a normal season. Every year there is some type of drama around this team. I don't care about Michael Hayes. No one did before he and Embiid had their altercation. What I care about is just being a normal functioning NBA franchise and not the perpetual dumpster fire that we Sixer fans have to endure annually. Everyone is caught up on the mention of Embiid family. But Hayes was right. Embiid consistently says one thing and does the exact opposite. He says his health in the post season is a priority and yet plays in the Olympics after knee surgery. Like wtf bro?
Right? Embiid should be thanking Hayes for getting the goldfish attention span NBA fans to take pity on him. At least until Embiid gets back on the court and tries to injure someone again. I think the league needs to implement transparency rules about whether players are active or not, and if they are injured or not, purely for the fans who go to buy tickets.
As much as I can disagree with some of your nba takes thank you for always speaking out for the athletes so many nba channels and fans alike dismiss anything thing they say because of there salary
Embiid shouldn't have brought up his family's name in the first place when talking about 'leaving a legacy', when he can't even remotely back it up with his actions. Talk the talk, and walk the walk. All Spears did was remind Embiid of what he said
Love ya Rusty but this is kind of an emotional argument. Embiid is a professional. He can't put his hands on anyone in an offensive manner if it's not in the context of a basketball game. That's why the execs aren't backing him. "Ignoring the human element" is exactly what billions of humans are paid MUCH less to do. Also, the inability to keep ones hands to themselves is a major sign of immaturity, the exact thing all the old heads criticize him for... I'm not saying they're right in every aspect but this certainly doesn't help his case. The reporter shouldn't have said what he did, but you can't let yourself get baited like that, especially to the point that you get physical.
Watching Jokic is crazy man. This guy can score at will, and idk how so many dont realize that he is a supreme scorer. He is the 50th player oat when it comes to ppg. He has a higgher efg and ts% than any person in front of him, whilst generating all of his shots by himself. He could super easily go for 35 ppg if he wanted to... Arguably a top 3 scorer oat, the only thing missing is the volume, bc he is a pass first guy.
Bro… I gotta bust my ass 80 hours weeks and u make about 60-80k a year… and if I ever felt like not showing up to work then I’d lose my job .. the fact Embiid can do all this and get paid more than imma make during my whole life over a 3 year period… I expect him to be available.. talking about family is a no go zone.. the reporter messed up there.. but to get paid like nba players get paid.. we gotta hold them accountable
I think its completely reasonable for Morey to say that that embiid's shove is unacceptable. He's your star player and assault is assault, you cant risk him being suspended or dealing with legal troubles during the season.
a shove is not "just a shove" when the person doing the shoving is 7 feet, 280 pounds edit: it wouldve been one thing if the reporter dug up something on embiids family or something, but he didnt even say anything bad about them, he just brought up something that embiid likes to say a lot himself. that does not justify putting your hands on someone half your size in the slightest
Everyone should know that if you write something very critical on a player and then include references to his dead brother and his child, that it might trigger some sort of response. No it is worse .. you should have the empathy to think that it might be wrong to do so in the first place. Maybe not shove worthy wrong, but still very wrong. Just criticize his play, his lack of preparation, his lack of character or any other legitimate thing, but leave his personal matters out of these articles, it is just not the place for it.
@@pinobluevogel6458 i agree with you that there is plenty to criticize about embiid without bringing his personal life into it. but embiid stated these things himself, publically and the reporter just picked up on it Unneccessary? very much Does it justify putting your hands on someone? not a single bit and if y´all think it does, you need to grow up
@@Muunstaa Look, it is hard to say I relate to Embiid in this situation. I'm not a media personality, I have zero media training and I certainly don't care a lot about harmful words, especially if they come from a person that is clearly disrespectful and tactless in every way. I agree he should be a better man and have the correct response. I also think he should have been helped by some media expert to formulate a strong response that clearly shows his disgust with the reporter, but without putting him off as in the wrong here. He needed to be forceful but also untouchable. Losing your temper and shoving a man means you've lost whatever argument was had. That said, I do think the reporter is the one that is at blame here. It is not about the exact words he used, it is about the context he used those words in. I'm not a psychologist, but I do have enough empathy to understand that saying obvious negative things and doing that straight after mentioning his family, will trigger an emotional response. I think not realizing this means you are seriously lacking empathy. It could have been avoided easily and there was no reason doing so. Both are in the wrong here, but I do think it was the reporter that crossed the line first.
I think star players should learn how these pundits operate and how to actually hurt them. Teams should proactively come up with and offer them ways to resolve these kinds of issues. If Embiid had been told he can have Hayes be thrown out of the locker room and have his access revoked until he apologizes, he would probably not have felt so helpless as to get physical.
There's nothing crazy about it. I've seen people get killed for mentioning a person's dead relatives in a less than flattering manner. Embiid only shoved him. And to the crowd who thinks he's "resting". Go back and count the amount of surgeries he's had, just on the lower body. A lot of those injuries tend to be chronic and lingering. People that size usually don't have long careers. I'm honestly amazed he's played this long. People just need to think things through a little more critically.
The beat writer is definitely wrong and a huge jerk for bringing Embiid's family into it. There is plenty to criticize Embiid about like how he is the dirtiest player in the nba. And he the fact that he probably wouldnt get hurt if he didnt flop so much
I don't care you can't justify bringing his dead brother into your article to mock him. He played through injury during last year's playoffs for crying out loud
This comment is incredibly out of touch and disingenuous. Don’t act like embiid could simply keep all his time and money for himself and not do any charity and community work it’s not just about basketball where someone can make a difference in a city
I don’t like Embiid as a player. I damn near hate him (the 76ers esp.) However, this shit has got me rooting for the guy. He CLEARLY should not have been out on the court for the last few months. He looks injured. Him not playing back to backs in order to have a full recovery day is probably the best case scenario for everyone involved, except for Embiid.
When someone 7ft tall and almost 300 lbs of lean muscle shoves someone, it's an assault. Shoving someone can do lots of damage if the person is shoved into something or falls down.
I am the biggest Embiid hater on this planet, for basketball related reasons, and Embiid didn't go nearly far enough with what he did. People are way too comfortable with doing this shit, like involving irrelevant family stuff. That's only warranted to be mentioned in the first place if the player mentions it first and then still there are limitations to how.
Throws teammates under the bus Chokes in the playoffs Cries his way to a mvp Plays dirty Flops And now wants to be a part time player and on an insane salary. I have no sympathy for him professionally… but never bring dead family or any family into it
the only times he throws teamates under the bus is when it is warrented. He's never "choked" in the play offs. He's played heaviliy injured through many play off series and that in it of itself deserves praise. In that he doesn't just sit and bitch about it and sit on the bench. He didn't "cry his way to mvp" learn how basket ball works that sentence doesn't even make sense. Him playing dirty is you seeing two clips on tiktok. Every super star flops, Lebron, SGA, Luka, Brunson etc.
@ he had 8TOs and played like complete ass in the second half yet Simmons got all the blame… really he hasn’t choked how many ECFs he been in? You can go watch hours of him flopping and doing dirty plays yet people defend… barely plays always injured when he’s needed most.. so why pay like he’s some generational talent 😂 76s will go no where with him
@@kebab7023 he 💯 cried his way to mvp he was bitching about all that year and making it about race Jokic was the clear cut best player in the league 😂😂
Nothing he said was disrepectful towards the dead or his son innapropriate sure but its definetly not something to assault a guy over. Both guys are in the wrong embiid more so. Also omg rusty dont make this a race thing this happens in all sports like you said its not uniquely black
Shaq is the last guy who can complain about availability and conditioning. Him showing up to training camp fat as hell every year is the reason him and Kobe didn’t win 5 chips together.
Completely agree that some people are way too comfortable saying the most vile shit to famous athletes as they assume they will just ignore it and they can just abuse them freely. In a similar vein, I completely understand why Jason Kelce smahed that guys phone when he yelled a homophobic slur about Travis right in his face.
I get why Embiid did it, but can't be condoned. Hearty fine and likely suspension coming. Reporter definitely in the wrong, unnecessary like you said Rusty
I sympathize with Embiid, he’s human and this reporter crossed a line. Not saying Embiid should have shoved him, give him a fine. However, the Sixers should have given the reporter a lifetime ban. You cannot allow a reporter to attack the family member of a player because that players had injury issues. This is a huge failure by Morey & Brand, I would not be surprised if Embiid requested a trade.
There's a reason the team apologized to the reporter. He didn't say anything bad about his family and to imply he did shows you're uninformed. The 76ers wouldn't be apologizing if embiid wasn't in the wrong
@@Nick2bad4u Yes, he did. I read the article he was using Embiid's dead brother and son to insult him. "The 76ers wouldn't be apologizing if Embiid wasn't in the wrong" What are you talking about? Why are you acting as if the Sixers organization is infallible? They could just be trying to do damage control because they're afraid of the optics of the situation and upsetting the media. There have been plenty of times where a team has been in the wrong.
@@Nick2bad4u Have you not seen it? Look dude, I'm not going to argue with you when you're uneducated about this topic. Look it up yourself and if you still think that the reporter didn't cross a line, then we have nothing to discuss
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I'm in the crowd that hates when players rush back from injury. I'd rather someone come back at a better time for their team rather than play injured and not perform well. If all your playoff hopes go down the drain with a singular player, then there should be questions about the roster and coaching staff.
That will never happen guess why money and fans, fans don’t realize how often these guys rush back from injuries, when do we hold the front office accountable
Like the 1st stint Cavs LeBron it took them losing LeBron in 2010 to realize how much Bron made them look like competent role players it showed the significant drop off from 2010 vs 2011 Cavs team
@@michaelpaullang4401
Exactly. The problems of the insane ticket prices and stats missing games is one of the league’s problems, and front offices moreover. It’s not on players to decide the shit fans deal with
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Yeah. Didn’t they go like 1st seed in 2009 to 15th in 2011? It was something crazy
@@Jonathan-A.C. yeah but they were still 1st in 2010 just won 6 games less from 66 to 60
Larry Bird spitted facts about when trading for a LeBron team he knew some of those role players were ass only looked great because setting them up in the correct places
i am the worlds foremost scholar on hating the sixers and Joel Embiid.
but you leave his family out of your criticisms, say hes a dirty player who hurts other players on purpose. call him lazy call him a playoff choker all you want. these are things you can say about his game that are (potentially) valid critisisms. talking about his deceased brother and his SON. is despicable, that reporter should be fired and hes lucky all he got was a shove. Embiid is massive and could probably hospitalize the reporter if he wanted to.
Wait until you find out that isn't even top 1,000 for horrible things reporters have done this year.
You know what problem with this if this was the other way around, they would be calling for Joel job, decimating his character, and it woudnt be good
@@kyleshuler2929swear people think they can talk to these dudes any type of way and label it as criticism jus cause there making millions like there not talking to a human at the end of the day but if it was other way around
Exactly this. Reporter should not only not have access to the locker rooms, he should purely be fired. Front office should apologize to Embiid
@@michaelpaullang4401
Exactly. Like it’s not even some legit criticism, it’s just being an asshole for no reason.
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didn't even change the text to red just to see if anyone would notice
@@alsorustybuckets and it took a total of 1 minute for someone to notice 😭
That's the one i used to use for college classes too. Brought me back to the early 2010's LMAO
@@alsorustybucketsjust so you know the writer did write it was a punch, responding to a comment. Then deleted the tweet after shams said there were no punch
Shaq and Chuck literally come from an era that was extremely uneducated on the human body, that's why so many of em are broken and have trouble moving around in their older years. It's like old tradies that give me crap for trying to look after my body while they are on painkillers daily and complain to anyone with a set of ears about how sore they are.
Ngl we still are terribly uneducated about thr human body, the league sped up and people load manages, and they got hurt anyway, but also people overtrained and pushed through injury's like crazy and it also clearly didnt work i the long term
They gotta find a way to prevent the chrinic injures early on, and also find a way to know when atletes need to not play, in soccer there are blood work measurements that identify when a player is nearing injury, looks like the nba been freestyling this too much
@@luizansounds totally agree that we still know fuck all but in comparison to their days we know so so much more, the average fan gets too caught up in the whole well if they handled why can't he sort of thing. Everyone is different, some of us are made of glass and some are made of steel. Is what it is.
@@meh7348 the last stuff w kawhi specially shows that probably the training regiment might cause it because he didnt start injury prone (unlike enbiid) and the lack if individualization in training {meaning specific training for different bodies and injury needs} and players shedding their bodies to the ground when they are young is the cause if this recent boom of injuries alongside the lack of condition to properly play long streches
They were talking about the job that they were paid to do and that was playing basketball. If preserving your body means you can't see any superstar players most of the regular season then it's no wonder the ratings are going to shit. Just cancel the league at this point if we can't watch the players play the fucking game. I'm sorry but I'm done with this bs and people defending load management. Okay if you're hurt obviously you can't play but resting to prevent injuries is just fucking stupid and annoying. I'm paying to watch these games and I get my time wasted watching these teams play with their mid players all the time. What NBA did to the regular season awards should be applied to player salaries. If you can't play 80% of games your salary is cut by half (unless you're injured - you get medical leave then). They get paid the amount of money regular people can't even comprehend and they sit out game after game in their fancy clothes and it's just blatant showcase of entitlement and disrespecting the fans who made it possible for you to earn that money in the first place. Stop. Defending. These. Soft. Ass. Players.
@@meh7348 Shaq played 19 seasons. Only 5 of them are 75+ games and 7 of them are 70+games.
Outside of Shaqs first 3 seasons, where he only missed a combined 5 games, he missed a ton of seasons.
Obviously nowhere to Embiids level but Shaq is not Embiid.
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I don’t like Embiid. I don’t think he deserved mvp. It’s undenyable that he is one of the greatest basketball players in the world and a contender for the greatest player to never make the finals. That reporter deserved to get his shit rocked. These internet people can’t just be harassing players behind the screen and talking about one of the largest and strongest humans on earth expecting not only no repricussions but also to earn money from the article.
That last sentence in particular. What did he think would happen if he'd spoke to Embiid in this context?
I think that reporter isn't just disrespectful, he is just plain stupid to do so.
If Embiid assaulted the reporter then he would've had to to sit out the season from injury
@@pinobluevogel6458
Exactly. Crybully, bitch made behavior. He should have gotten chewed out by Elton and Murray
Embiid was mad because the reporter made him look stupid. Don't say you don't care what anyone says about immediately after showing that you care what people say about you.
100% agree
Wait misinformation is a problem on the internet?
Surprisingly. Hopefully centel can start the trend of legit journalism. They the only real ones fr
internet hasn't increased the amount of misinformation, it's only decreased the monopoly on it
Not at all, fun fact 99.9% of information online is completely factual!
A shove is so vague in and of itself. It it a gentle little push, or Davante Adams when he sees a cameraman?
Yeah and it being initially reported as a punch really colors the situation. I'm totally out of the sixers loop and initial reports made it sound like Embiid took a dudes head off for nothing. Not to say it's all chill but you are ASKING for it talking about a man like that.
Yall pick and choose when a shove is justified. One moment the masses wanna cancel and sue and others act like it’s no big deal smh
@@TheJwalk1234 I can’t pick and choose because nobody else saw it happen
I'm so glad you are bringing up the human aspect of this. Embiid hears it all from Philly even though the 76ers were in The Process when he arrived. It must be so difficult for him to change from the hero that saved the organization to the scapegoat. From getting the love Philly has to offer to all of the scorn of not doing enough.
This is probably the worst franchise for him to land on. Still, he is not without fault at all. If he had been a better man all of his career, shown character, none of these criticisms would even exist.
@pinobluevogel6458 that is very true. Philly is ruthless when the expectation is to win. I'm not saying he is without fault. But he's the one who flipped this organization around.
When you draft Okafor, Fultz, Simmons, trade Mikal on draft night, and pay Tobias Harris over 30 mil. It's not going to end well.
Embiid has his share of the blame, but when you have dysfunction around you, it's hard to function.
@@pinobluevogel6458 shown some character ? You mean like paying all the staff workers for Well’s Fargo during covid when the owner decided not to ? Embiid has shown AMAZING character off the court but the media doesn’t tell you that. Do your own research.
@@Bkzflyest0823 Why is it my problem that the media doesn't tell me those things? I'm not going to research Joel Embiid, I got better things to do, like watching actual basketball, this drama doesn't interest me in the slightest.
All I've ever seen from Embiid is good basketball, coupled with a ton of injuries, a big dropoff in every postseason, a lot of conditioning issues, some foul play on the court and some questionable language off the court in interviews. If that is what media gives me, that is what I know.
Go complain against them if you think they should do a better job communicating. I just have to base my opinion on what is presented and it isn't great.
The way I see it, the shove was understandable and probably even morally acceptable, however it just can’t be condoned by either the Sixers or the league. You can’t set a precedent that violence, even something as small as a shove, is an acceptable reaction to words, even if they are horrible and inappropriate.
Sure, but in order for it to be both effective and understandable for Embiid to be punished for getting physical, the reporter must also be punished for stepping out of line in his article. Which is just difficult since Embiid and the reporter are employed by two different companies. Sixers and NBA PR teams will want a quick decision to get it over with, but the people in charge of disciplinary actions may want to wait to make sure they're making a decision that sends the right message here.
@@albericponcedeleon2696He didn’t step out of line. He literally said Embiid says that he wants to leave a great legacy for his son who is named after his brother who was killed in a car accident. That legacy is clearly important to him. But to be great at your job you have to show up.
There’s literally nothing out of line about the article.
If you think it’s hurtful, you’re just soft AF and this world is going to eat you alive.
@@albericponcedeleon2696 I think that's probably fair.
No, you can. What he did was acceptable. You don’t act like that, period.
It’s not acceptable that the reporter acts that way. Certainly not that he keeps his job. Not acceptable management treated it that way.
Talk to me about that before talking about a shove being uncalled for
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No it isn’t, don’t bs bro. You aren’t Embiid. The article wasn’t even said in any respectful manner.
It’s using things that are not his business, in a context where it’s not necessary to mention, and said in a way that’s not deliberately trying to be as respectful as possible.
If you still feel this way, you’re just bootlicking
I agree with plenty of your take… but “all I’ve done for this city” what’s he referring to exactly? Doing his job? Getting paid to play basketball and playing a few seasons worth of games in a decade? Is it the confrence titles and the winning culture? The positive mentality? The leadership? I would like to know.
He is an excellent player, and doesn’t deserves the treatment from that reporter and comment about his family that’s absolute garbage behavior.
You can’t be injury prone and overweight and be whiny and then expect to get treated like superstars that are available when they’re needed. And on playing while injured… when else can he play, if he didn’t play injured when would he earn that 50M per year?
He also sold out his Cameroonian heritage for a cheap olympic gold medal and stank the place out with his performances whilst doing so.
Joel Embid is overweight for an athlete relative to height when he spends time out injured.
And yes he hasn't won for the city but let's not pretend he doesn't have a higher chance of going somewhere else and winning (not guaranteed) much easier (as a 2nd or 3rd option for slightly less pay) than Philly getting his replacement and challenging.
Embid's presence in Philly and their consistent playoff appearances keep a lot of people employed and making bread in Philly for the local area.
I am genuinely confused at why you think he hasn’t done a lot for his city? He plays his hardest basketball for the 76ers and is constantly playing through injuries just to give his team a chance at playoff hopes. People don’t often understand how much he plays through injuries and if he wanted to just be a Ben Simmons and never play for the past 3 years he could. Not every team can win a championship and he’s done a lot for the team with how much he’s had to overcome imo 🤷♂️
embiid has done a lot of charity work in philly. its beyond basketball when he says tha
@@trikelikesfish😂😂😂😂 what has he done besides whine
“I’ve done too much for this city” = You can’t blatantly disrespect and personally attack the only reason your franchise has had any type of relevance for the past decade.
No Embiid isn’t a model superstar and his best ability is far from availability. I’m not even a huge fan of his at all but you can’t just do the whole “he gets paid to play so stfu”
It doesn’t matter if he’s a $5 or $5,000,000 work horse. He’s your PRIZE fucking work horse at the end of the day. He could be a bitch like Ben Simmons.. The team lives and dies with Biid. Which is really a GM issue and not a “him” issue.
I think my main cricism of him is actually that he is, like Ben Simmons, a soft player in many respects, showing weakness of character most of all; Flopping everytime to gain freethrows (which is dangerous, especially at his weight and size), talking smack to the media, boasting about his achievements, complaining about a lot, except being critical at himself in the process.
@@pinobluevogel6458he doesn’t flop. Flopping is jumping on the ground. He sometimes flails you show there is contact. I don’t know what you watch of embiid because of all my team watching him. He doesn’t act over confident. Like Jordan said can you talk big when you’re down/losing a lot of guys in the league don’t do that. It shows his confidence in himself and his skill. Most of the sixers playoff failures are not due to him. His supporting cast has always been an issue, Ben Simmons, Tobias Harris, Markelle Flutz. What achievements does he boast about. Other players got championed for the very same thing. I understand everyone has players they like and dislike but when you don’t try minimise your bias against for sake of talking the facts.
@@Joshua-qc1li I could be overreacting to what I've seen from him and bias is certainly involved, but this opiniion, however limited, is formed over many year of him in the league and the more I watched him, the more I saw stuff I didn't like, including all the things I mentioned in my post.
And he certainly does flop, he falls over way too easily for a player his weight and size. Even if it is legit and he is put on the ground by force, he should strengthen his core so he isn't downed so easily. Not only is it annoying to watch people fall over for no reason other than to bait freethrows, it is also dangerous if you're so heavy and big, potentially giving unnecessary injury risk.
And I don't think he behaves like a good rolemodel at all outside the court as well. Even in this interview, where he is clearly in the right as that reporter disrespected him for no reason and used his famility in inappropriate context, he comes off as a bit of an asshole. Saying stuff like 'I've done too much for this city' is just not classy. He gets paid millions of dollars to work this hard and he is not doing more than any other NBA stars in the league. I think he might actually be doing less, but that is ofcourse up to debate and I can't fairly judge that.
Now I'm not saying this because it is up to me, or that my opinion matters much in this situation, I'm saying he should be a rolemodel and be a better man. If he cleaned up his act, at some point the dirt everyone is throwing at him is going to slow down and (hopefully) stop. He should be an inspiring force for young children to play basketball, not whatever the hell he is now. It would certainly benefit him and all the millions of people he affects in his life.
And you don't even have to be an approachable media personality, just do the minimal that is required of you and let your basketball do the talking, which is something Embiid is certainly capable of.
@@Joshua-qc1liexcept he does flop and there is an entire montage of him flopping. we don’t need you to redefine what the word flopping means in layman usage, as whatever definition you may use, flopping refers to a player exaggerating the impact of any contact made with them and Embiid is currently the biggest perpetrator of this in the NBA. he also plays dirty and constantly boasts about his achievements in an effort to hide the blemishes in his career. saying things like he could have been the GOAT if it weren’t for injuries without ever having been to a conference final? and it’s not like he’s saying that behind closed doors because that would be different. anyone can pose any what-ifs behind closed doors. however, when you get on a podcast that is made to broadcast to thousands of people, and you get on there and start spewing these hypotheticals without there being any concrete evidence of what you’re saying, you are clearly aiming to push a narrative and just end up appearing delusional. with that said, embiid doesn’t deserve to be bombarded by hate comments from his own fanbase because he is the best thing to happen to the sixers since AI and is the one who’s brought them any sort of relevancy. apart from his personality and on-the-court antics, embiid deserves appreciation from sixers fans for the attention and hope he’s brought their team regardless of whether they’ve gone all the way or not.
@@Joshua-qc1lithat game 6 and 7 against the hawks is most definitely on embiid. people like to say it was ben simmons fault for losing against the hawks as if embiid didn’t go scoreless in the final quarter of that game against one of the worst defenses in the league. that was his ticket to play against giannis in the conference finals as healthy as ever and he choked in the last quarter. his playoff numbers and efficiency consistently drop from his regular season stats. embiid is a playoff choker.
Funny enough, Shaq spent most of his career injured. In his 20 seasons in the NBA, he played less than 70 games 13 times. He played less than 60 games in 9 of those seasons. And he played less than 50 games in 5 of those seasons!
Lol, a shove is actually outright battery in the eyes of the law. Assault doesn’t even require contact, so a shove can definitely be assault too.
& with the context all he said was his son is named after his brother … embodied just upset at the world
I can’t say I blame him… but he is a grown man and will have to deal with the consequences
@@SorelsSon If we are 100% fair, the context provided by the reporter was entirely unnecessary to the point he was making. But equally, Embiid could’ve used words to handily make that guy feel ashamed of himself and the whole internet would have stood behind him and probably forced the reporter to apologize (whether necessary or not is another discussion).
Y’all are soft
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I doubt Embiid would see public appeal as something easily capturable
I know he didn't punch him, but Rusty said it would have excused a punch? A punch is assault. An NBA player cannot be assaulting the press regardless of what they said. He did not have every right to do so.
All this over a shove? 😂 He lucky he caught bro on a good day cause disrespecting the dead for entertainment for shock value is insane
Am I the only person who read the reports about what actually happened? Embiid didn't shove the reporter for what he wrote.
@@BiggieTrismegistusThe shove was directly related to that jackass bringing up his family. If that reporter had never brought up his family, Embiid wouldn't have done anything just because he said "yes you do" about Embiid caring about what people say. If you think the article about his family is an unrelated thing you're an idiot.
For as much as I dislike Embiid, especially on the floor for all the foul bating and dirty play, he was 1000% in the right to punch the reporter. Where I'm from (Naples) you criticize performances and drive to win, but you NEVER touch someone's family unless you want the shit beat out of you. Honestly mad respect to Embiid for not kicking the shit out the reporter, that should get either fined or let go of. What he said was (IMO) rancid, and if I were his boss I'd come to openly criticize and/or fire him.
I hate him because of his flopping. I recognize the fact that he’s played through injury after injury after injury. A lot of them would be solved if he played with less flopping but that’s my opinion.
I definitely feel you here. I didn't know how bad this was until i saw this. Great video!
The comments against Embiid load managing makes sense when you see where the team is now. Ofc playoffs are the most important thing, but you need to get there first and if you can get a high seed you will have home court (and seeing Embiid's performances in past playoffs, homecourt suits him better). While Embiid is managing, Maxey is carrying this team and they are still 1 and 4 against normal a** teams, not contenders...
Agree with the Hayes thing tho. F**k that guy...
The problem is Embiid can’t stay healthy over a full season, would you rather them be a good seed and fizzle out again because everyone is injured? Or be a low seed but be true contenders with an actually healthy Joel Embiid?
@trikelikesfish Id rather have both lol!
What I mean is, load management is not bad but complwtely sidelining him feels like an overcorrection. He doesnt have to put 35 min per game with a usage of 40% like last season, but at least play good minutes for your team and the fans; he is the face of the Process and he is in sweats while his team loses to the flipping Bucks.
Last season, Harden was gone and Maxey was finding his place in the offense. Right now, PG is back and Maxey is playing like an all-star from the getgo; they can take the load of carrying the offense from Embiid and he can play close to 20 min, ride the paint a bit more and score a bit less
1 and 6 now lol
Embiid had like one healthy postseason. They looked like they could win it all if it weren't for Kawhi going nuclear
It literally took one of the ten greatest postseason performances and the only series sealing game winner in history to stop Embiid, when he was healthy
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I'll hold my L 💀
What in the revisionist history even is this comment 🤣
Embiid averaged 17.6/8.6/3.3 on 37% from the field and 34% from 3 with 4 Turnovers per game against the Raptors
Quite literally THE reason why the 76ers lost that series was BECAUSE Embiid played like hot garbage 🤣
@ he had a good playoff run before that series, iirc
Bro was averaging like 20 and 10 lol
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What do you mean "run"???? It was a just first round series LMAO
If anything your comments just prove how completely devoid of any resemblance of playoff success Embiid has had in his career.
@ was it the first round? I thought it was the second?? Was that a different year? 😂 damn son
@@supercasualgamer513wdym the only series sealing game winner in history
Dang, Philly media so rough it made me agree with Embiid
He is criticized because he has shown up short in the playoffs year after year and he makes 50 million a year and is supposed to be the leader of the team.
Bro maybe one of the best takes I’ve ever heard you have. Thank you for caring about people as people. Honestly makes me mad how they treat these athletes. I hope that nameless reporter gets fired.
Yeah reported did bad take but we live in a word now where you can hit or touch someone just because of words. That been the standard for a while. I don’t agree with it fully but just pointing it out.
I strongly dislike Embiid, but what people are saying, what that “reporter” wrote, is mind bogglingly unfair to the guy. Call him dirty, foul baiting, a fraud, sure. Bringing up his dead brother and implying he chooses not to suit up? Thats just ridiculous man
The thing that weirds me out about Philly media with Joel is that they act like he’s gone completely AWOL when they know better than anyone that this is a systemic plan that was agreed upon by the entire franchise. I get not liking the lack of transparency on what seems to be holding him back from playing but it’s completely disingenuous when they put the entirety of the blame on him despite morey and nurse saying they signed off on the plan as well
No coach would willingly agree sitting Embiid out if it wasn't at least good for the team's success in the long run.
@@pinobluevogel6458they're 1 and 6 now. If they don't do something soon they won't be able to dig themselves out of the hole in time for the playoffs.
I have a strong feeling that the Sixers org. responded that way likely to avoid lawsuits and to just put the fire out. But if that's not the case, it's pretty messed up they wouldn't take Joel's side. They could've at least been more neutral in their opinion
But yet they want these nba players to be loyal to teams, only they loyal to is money
You don't know what you're talking about. Y'all are just soft like Embiid
I feel like people have been twisting the phrase "he brought up my family / brought my family into this".
The phrase originally means like the other guy is insulting the guy's family... and this is bad. However, the phrase is twisted here into "He said he is trying to be a great franchise player for his son, but he didn't play like a great franchise player". This is not very problematic. I mean sure... brining family into this, is kind of irrelevant. However, we should not conflate our response to this with our response to "he brought my family into this (as in he is insulting my family)".
The reporter is simply antagonizing Embiid in his article, and brought up his family in a pretty irrelevant but non-offensive way. Embiid punched the report because he couldn't handle the antagonization, while the "brought up my family" is essentially an irrelevant excuse that is different from the typical "It is bad to bring up someone's family by insulting the family".
It is Embiid who is mostly at fault for unable to tolerate antagonizing reporting which is normal and not a very bad thing in sport media. The reporter simply mentioned something mostly irrelevant, which is not that big of a deal, and doesn't justify physical violence in any form, regardless how unharmful the shoving is.
Thank God someone with some sense.
I would love that video about humanity in sports (and the lack of it sometimes from players or media). Will support it when it comes out
Most players who are over around 250 lbs get injured alot. Players over that weight who get lower body injuries have an even higher risk for new injuries. Joel Embiid was injured before he entered the league. It is a miracle of modern sports medicine that he gets to keep playing at all.
Been watching Rusty for quite sometime and to see him start to defend and treat Embiid reasonably is super nice.
Im a Embiid Fan, i know he’s an ass , rude and not everyones favorite but its insane to see the bs treatment he gets when he puts himself on the line for Philly every game and does what he does. Thank you Rusty
Man, even as someone who doesnt like Embiid because of his flagrants and doing stuff like pulling Robinson down on his legs, that Hayes article was so out of line. 76ers should have banned the dude for it to both back their player and prevent any incident
What did he say that was controversial. He literally quoted Joel's own words back to him. Joel is a giant rich baby.
@@TheMykr0 Everyone says it's so out of line and vaguely alludes to family but the dude literally just repeated his words back to him.
@@TheMykr0Saying someone else is disgracing or dishonoring their son and deceased brother is out of line. It doesn't matter at all that Embiid has said he wants to leave a legacy for them. That doesn't give this schmuck reporter the right to use their names to attack Embiid. That's objectively disrespectful regardless of the context. Keep it to ball and leave family out of it.
The Joel Embiid Situation Is Crazy
I really appreciate the stance Rusty takes in a lot of these videos when it comes to emphasising the headspace and wellbeing of a lot of these players. People often forget that the NBA isn't some reality TV show. These are real people with real emotions behind them. "Oh but they make millions just to play basketball" like having money invalidates your right to being treated like a human being.
I agree but you wanna know what’s even more ridiculous?? The fact that you have yet to make a documentary on the underrated GOAT Sir Raymond Felton
What about one of the greatest chuckers of all-time, Antoine Walker?
About your deep dive on the "Dehumanization of Professional Athletes" ... please do! I would love to listen to it, and I am sure many of us would!
And people hated Harden for calling Morey a liar, smh i hate the media
Never thought I'd see Rusty defending Joel Embiid and giving a nuanced take on his playoff woes. Love to see it
Jacob missing the point like always when it comes to superstar players.
Embiid is constantly injured BECAUSE he doesn't take care of his body .
People are still sh*tting on Luka fir the exact same thing but Joel doesn't.
If he wasn't out of shape every start of the season and played himself in shape he wouldn't be gassed as much and this injury prone every year
I get your point but also it's difficult to stay in shape when you're always injured 😅 also not everyone can get into shape playing mid way through the season cause you'll get injured and the cycles repeat. Kinda like Zion.
Not defending Embid, he should be in shape that's his job. But still injuries is something to take into account
@@andresdelbusto2184 Zion notoriously couldn’t stay in shape after being drafted. His injuries started after that
If someone says something to you that’s hurtful and mean and uncalled for at your job and you push or shove them, you’re going to get in trouble. The person that said those things will also get in trouble. They both should/will get punished from the NBA.
if minimum wage workers have to bite their tongue whenever someone says something disrespectful to them, then professional athletes sure as shit do too
I dont think people remember how bad the 76ers were before Embiid got there... He was the one who turned around the process.
The absolute laughing stock of the league, and he has completely transformed that even without being very healthy in his career
@@AmariAaron look at the people drafted during that time too. Okafor, Simmons, Fultz, Noel. They drafted Mikal Bridges to trade him for Zhaire Smith. They never got it right around him and he's the one to blame
@@colemilz You can't blame the organisation either on that tbf, Simmons and Fultz were both consensus Number 1 lottery picks. If Fultz kept his shot and Simmons his spine, they could have went far.
@@pacquac9958 id say frequent injuries could be an organizational problem. If players can't heal properly it's the job of the training staff to find a way to get them back. It can't just be the players to blame for injuries where the rehab process was the problem getting back to playing. But that's definitely a good point. Everyone would've been asking questions if they passed up those two
@@pacquac9958Fultz was absolutely not the consensus for the top pick in 2017, it literally caused Philly to get fleeced in the trade with Boston
Huge W Rusty, I think Biid has every right to demand a trade or clean house on the current front office after this debacle.
Absolutely no need for the reporter to bring up his deceased brother, that’s pretty clear. However, if roles were reversed where a reporter shoved a player over something similar, everyone would come unhinged. Joel is acting like he’s a public servant to the city of Philly, if he was really concerned with being available for “the city” he wouldn’t have played in the Olympics and would have focused more on being available for the start of the season. I think the organization needs to be held accountable, why in the F was Joel playing 30+ minutes per game, last playoffs seemed like dude never came out. The whole “new norm” of not playing back to backs is so BS, the new norm would be for him to actually play most of the season and be in shape, geez!!!!
To be fair, he cannot easily play 30+ minutes a game, as he gets gassed if he does. Most centers and especially players his size, should just play less minutes to compensate for their extreme energy use.
What did he say that was so bad? Quote it
for a second there I almost felt bad for Embiid, but then I remembered the laundry list of his antics and dirty plays and it went away, whew
I'm a very proud Embiid hater, but bringing up the dude's dead family is ridiculous and any normal human would act the same way
@@benjordan2606Agreed. You don’t bring family into shit ever.
Just because he has antics and plays dirty, that doesn't mean he can't be in the right here. I think he has a good case that this reporter has been highly disrespectful and unnecessarily so. But for sure Embiid has no right to boast he has done everything in his power and certainly he hasn't been the best rolemodel at all with his actions.
You reap what you sow. If he wants to get treated better, he needs to clean up his own act before that is going to change. In this case, I think he has a valid point, but being a more immaculate player could have been a way better way to prevent all of this in the first place.
@@benjordan2606two things can be true don’t bring up someone’s dead family, don’t try to intentionally injure people.
I HEAR YOU,BUT THE REPORTER BROKE THE " CARDINAL RULE"
LEAVE FAMILY OUT OF IT.
Joel Embiid is made of glass and will be the 2nd player in the NBA to win MVP and not make the hall of fame (D-Rose being first)
But then again, the basketball hall of fame is a joke. They’ll both make it.
good on you for understanding both sides of the story. people have been harsh on joel for not playing, so they take it out on him like this. had this been a separate event, I'm sure people would've investigated the cause of the shove, for as huge embiid is, he's just a troll for fun
Joell still got to be professional
Fuck outta here 😂 yall love insulting people and want them to act like it's okay. Bro lucky he said ts to Embiid cause a shove too little for disrespecting the dead.
Other than the second night of a back to back being meaningless, this was one of your better videos ever. Kudos Jacob. 💪🏽💪🏽
I agree he made his point clear and respectfully, but still a lot of people in these comments take offense. I'd prefer it if Rusty had stayed away from the subject, as probably nothing good comes out of it.
As a Sixer fan I'm just over all of the bs that happens with this team. We can never have a normal season. Every year there is some type of drama around this team. I don't care about Michael Hayes. No one did before he and Embiid had their altercation. What I care about is just being a normal functioning NBA franchise and not the perpetual dumpster fire that we Sixer fans have to endure annually. Everyone is caught up on the mention of Embiid family. But Hayes was right. Embiid consistently says one thing and does the exact opposite. He says his health in the post season is a priority and yet plays in the Olympics after knee surgery. Like wtf bro?
Right? Embiid should be thanking Hayes for getting the goldfish attention span NBA fans to take pity on him. At least until Embiid gets back on the court and tries to injure someone again.
I think the league needs to implement transparency rules about whether players are active or not, and if they are injured or not, purely for the fans who go to buy tickets.
Appreciate your words man.
As much as I can disagree with some of your nba takes thank you for always speaking out for the athletes so many nba channels and fans alike dismiss anything thing they say because of there salary
Embiid shouldn't have brought up his family's name in the first place when talking about 'leaving a legacy', when he can't even remotely back it up with his actions. Talk the talk, and walk the walk. All Spears did was remind Embiid of what he said
100% on your page, sir!
Love ya Rusty but this is kind of an emotional argument. Embiid is a professional. He can't put his hands on anyone in an offensive manner if it's not in the context of a basketball game. That's why the execs aren't backing him. "Ignoring the human element" is exactly what billions of humans are paid MUCH less to do.
Also, the inability to keep ones hands to themselves is a major sign of immaturity, the exact thing all the old heads criticize him for... I'm not saying they're right in every aspect but this certainly doesn't help his case.
The reporter shouldn't have said what he did, but you can't let yourself get baited like that, especially to the point that you get physical.
It'd be one thing if he was insulting his family too like everyone says but literally the reporter brought up what he said is his motivation to play
It’s kinda crazy that this was one of the main reasons he didn’t go higher in the draft. Th scouts were spot on.
Watching Jokic is crazy man. This guy can score at will, and idk how so many dont realize that he is a supreme scorer. He is the 50th player oat when it comes to ppg. He has a higgher efg and ts% than any person in front of him, whilst generating all of his shots by himself. He could super easily go for 35 ppg if he wanted to... Arguably a top 3 scorer oat, the only thing missing is the volume, bc he is a pass first guy.
Matt Barnes never threw a single punch in his entire nba career
Bro… I gotta bust my ass 80 hours weeks and u make about 60-80k a year… and if I ever felt like not showing up to work then I’d lose my job .. the fact Embiid can do all this and get paid more than imma make during my whole life over a 3 year period… I expect him to be available.. talking about family is a no go zone.. the reporter messed up there.. but to get paid like nba players get paid.. we gotta hold them accountable
I think its completely reasonable for Morey to say that that embiid's shove is unacceptable. He's your star player and assault is assault, you cant risk him being suspended or dealing with legal troubles during the season.
a shove is not "just a shove" when the person doing the shoving is 7 feet, 280 pounds
edit: it wouldve been one thing if the reporter dug up something on embiids family or something, but he didnt even say anything bad about them, he just brought up something that embiid likes to say a lot himself.
that does not justify putting your hands on someone half your size in the slightest
Everyone should know that if you write something very critical on a player and then include references to his dead brother and his child, that it might trigger some sort of response. No it is worse .. you should have the empathy to think that it might be wrong to do so in the first place. Maybe not shove worthy wrong, but still very wrong.
Just criticize his play, his lack of preparation, his lack of character or any other legitimate thing, but leave his personal matters out of these articles, it is just not the place for it.
Everyone just keeps screaming he insulted his family lol. These people didn't even read the article 😊
Embiid uses it as is motivation to play and he was giving context. You literally can't think that that's insulting his family come on bro
@@pinobluevogel6458 i agree with you that there is plenty to criticize about embiid without bringing his personal life into it.
but embiid stated these things himself, publically and the reporter just picked up on it
Unneccessary? very much
Does it justify putting your hands on someone? not a single bit and if y´all think it does, you need to grow up
@@Muunstaa Look, it is hard to say I relate to Embiid in this situation. I'm not a media personality, I have zero media training and I certainly don't care a lot about harmful words, especially if they come from a person that is clearly disrespectful and tactless in every way.
I agree he should be a better man and have the correct response. I also think he should have been helped by some media expert to formulate a strong response that clearly shows his disgust with the reporter, but without putting him off as in the wrong here. He needed to be forceful but also untouchable. Losing your temper and shoving a man means you've lost whatever argument was had.
That said, I do think the reporter is the one that is at blame here. It is not about the exact words he used, it is about the context he used those words in. I'm not a psychologist, but I do have enough empathy to understand that saying obvious negative things and doing that straight after mentioning his family, will trigger an emotional response. I think not realizing this means you are seriously lacking empathy. It could have been avoided easily and there was no reason doing so. Both are in the wrong here, but I do think it was the reporter that crossed the line first.
I like this new format or approach.
I think star players should learn how these pundits operate and how to actually hurt them. Teams should proactively come up with and offer them ways to resolve these kinds of issues. If Embiid had been told he can have Hayes be thrown out of the locker room and have his access revoked until he apologizes, he would probably not have felt so helpless as to get physical.
Millions of reasons to hate embiid so many but not wanting to play or being considered anything less than a competitor is wild
Also Busty Ruckets
assault is intentional physical contact without the consent of the other person. A shove is assault.
There's nothing crazy about it. I've seen people get killed for mentioning a person's dead relatives in a less than flattering manner. Embiid only shoved him.
And to the crowd who thinks he's "resting". Go back and count the amount of surgeries he's had, just on the lower body. A lot of those injuries tend to be chronic and lingering. People that size usually don't have long careers. I'm honestly amazed he's played this long. People just need to think things through a little more critically.
His name is Mr.Glass.
I do feel like his playoff dropping has kind of been swept under the rug once you bring up the injuries.
Was he injured in 2019
Marcus Hayes crossed the line
Embiid has been suspended 3 games. Meanwhile Marcus Hayes got an apology from the 76ers. I feel like I'm going insane.
The whole Joel situation is crazy as a whole 😮💨🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
The beat writer is definitely wrong and a huge jerk for bringing Embiid's family into it. There is plenty to criticize Embiid about like how he is the dirtiest player in the nba. And he the fact that he probably wouldnt get hurt if he didnt flop so much
No one criticized his family...
Agreed. Leave the man's family out of it when criticizing him as a player.
What was said about his family that was so bad again?
Ive done way too much for this city, a millionaire basketball player.
I don't care you can't justify bringing his dead brother into your article to mock him. He played through injury during last year's playoffs for crying out loud
People always bring up money like that's the going to automatically solve the issue, it's won't. Stop acting like it will.
This comment is incredibly out of touch and disingenuous. Don’t act like embiid could simply keep all his time and money for himself and not do any charity and community work it’s not just about basketball where someone can make a difference in a city
@@BigBroKumahe gets paid hundreds of millions and almost everyone is playing through something in the playoffs.
And on top of that,its not " our money"
They shoukd stop advertising what people make.
That’s crazy James Wiseman tore his Achilles too for pacers
5:20 I think it ok to bring up a family if they are also in the same profession or aspiring to be. Like ball bros or Seth curry
ok
Holy shit-that’s a fucking low blow. That’s not okay.
The front office not having his back is a disgrace.
He’s an elite athlete who’s body can not hold up the whole season why are people blowing this out of proportion
Internet has been empowering alot of dumb takes that would never be said to the people face to face.
I don’t like Embiid as a player. I damn near hate him (the 76ers esp.) However, this shit has got me rooting for the guy. He CLEARLY should not have been out on the court for the last few months. He looks injured. Him not playing back to backs in order to have a full recovery day is probably the best case scenario for everyone involved, except for Embiid.
When someone 7ft tall and almost 300 lbs of lean muscle shoves someone, it's an assault. Shoving someone can do lots of damage if the person is shoved into something or falls down.
Knicks fan here who DESPISES Joel Embiid for his dirty play.
With that being said, Embiid did nothing wrong here
I am the biggest Embiid hater on this planet, for basketball related reasons, and Embiid didn't go nearly far enough with what he did. People are way too comfortable with doing this shit, like involving irrelevant family stuff. That's only warranted to be mentioned in the first place if the player mentions it first and then still there are limitations to how.
Throws teammates under the bus
Chokes in the playoffs
Cries his way to a mvp
Plays dirty
Flops
And now wants to be a part time player and on an insane salary. I have no sympathy for him professionally… but never bring dead family or any family into it
So can I not question Karl Malones parenting style? Legitimate question where is that line drawn
the only times he throws teamates under the bus is when it is warrented. He's never "choked" in the play offs. He's played heaviliy injured through many play off series and that in it of itself deserves praise. In that he doesn't just sit and bitch about it and sit on the bench. He didn't "cry his way to mvp" learn how basket ball works that sentence doesn't even make sense. Him playing dirty is you seeing two clips on tiktok. Every super star flops, Lebron, SGA, Luka, Brunson etc.
@ he had 8TOs and played like complete ass in the second half yet Simmons got all the blame… really he hasn’t choked how many ECFs he been in? You can go watch hours of him flopping and doing dirty plays yet people defend… barely plays always injured when he’s needed most.. so why pay like he’s some generational talent 😂 76s will go no where with him
@@kebab7023 he 💯 cried his way to mvp he was bitching about all that year and making it about race Jokic was the clear cut best player in the league 😂😂
Nothing he said was disrepectful towards the dead or his son innapropriate sure but its definetly not something to assault a guy over. Both guys are in the wrong embiid more so. Also omg rusty dont make this a race thing this happens in all sports like you said its not uniquely black
Is he injured atm? If so, what is his injury? If not, why is he not playing? It's like the dude is 40 ffs
If they are just making the Play-in....Embiid not playing back to back makes sense
Shaq is the last guy who can complain about availability and conditioning. Him showing up to training camp fat as hell every year is the reason him and Kobe didn’t win 5 chips together.
Completely agree that some people are way too comfortable saying the most vile shit to famous athletes as they assume they will just ignore it and they can just abuse them freely. In a similar vein, I completely understand why Jason Kelce smahed that guys phone when he yelled a homophobic slur about Travis right in his face.
What did he say that was so vile? Please quote it
Him never being in shape and having a playstyle where you are always on the floor however is 100% on him.
Mann the more I listen to this, the shittier this take gets…
I remember something similar happened with Demarcus cousins… reporter mentioned his brother for some weird reason….
I get why Embiid did it, but can't be condoned. Hearty fine and likely suspension coming. Reporter definitely in the wrong, unnecessary like you said Rusty
Embiid would love the suspension. We are getting near Ben Simmons levels of not wanting to play basketball.
5:26 bronny james’s father
I sure won’t miss the NBA on TNT
it wouldn't surprise me at all if Embiid asks to get outta Philly and proceed to win a championship elsewhere within the next two years
I sympathize with Embiid, he’s human and this reporter crossed a line. Not saying Embiid should have shoved him, give him a fine. However, the Sixers should have given the reporter a lifetime ban. You cannot allow a reporter to attack the family member of a player because that players had injury issues. This is a huge failure by Morey & Brand, I would not be surprised if Embiid requested a trade.
There's a reason the team apologized to the reporter. He didn't say anything bad about his family and to imply he did shows you're uninformed. The 76ers wouldn't be apologizing if embiid wasn't in the wrong
@@Nick2bad4u Yes, he did. I read the article he was using Embiid's dead brother and son to insult him.
"The 76ers wouldn't be apologizing if Embiid wasn't in the wrong"
What are you talking about? Why are you acting as if the Sixers organization is infallible? They could just be trying to do damage control because they're afraid of the optics of the situation and upsetting the media. There have been plenty of times where a team has been in the wrong.
@Sai4651 please quote the article where the reporter insulted embiid using his dead brother and son..
@@Nick2bad4u Have you not seen it? Look dude, I'm not going to argue with you when you're uneducated about this topic. Look it up yourself and if you still think that the reporter didn't cross a line, then we have nothing to discuss
@@Sai4651 I didn't see a quote there and yeah I've seen it but no one's been able to quote me the big disrespect that happened
your first good embiid take
Hot take: this will be Doc Rivers last coaching job