Making Taekwondo Work for MMA or Street Fights?! W/ Taekwondo Master
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Sport Taekwondo is one of the most popular Martial Arts-based sporting competitions on the planet. Olympic Taekwondo is huge and shows pure athleticisms from Taekwondo Athletes all over the world!! But is there a way to make Taekwondo work in MMA? Or Taekwondo work in a street fight?? I talk with 4th Degree Black Belt in Taekwondo (and 5th Degree in Hapkido) Master David Wright about what aspects of WTF Taekwondo could possibly be useful for more than just the Olympic Sport Taekwondo! Now, we aren't talking about ITF vs WTF Taekwondo, they are separate. Similar, but separate. Taekwondo for MMA and Taekwondo in Street Fight are a huge topic of debate so I am hoping that we can do some Karate V Taekwondo chatting and get to the bottom of this!! Is Taekwondo a Viable option for Self Defense?
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Last 2 but 4th is better
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Lol How did you manage to do that
It seems to me that martial artists are moving past the "My style is the best" mentality to a "let's cross train and learn from each other" mentality. I hope it's true.
we've been heading that way! What happens is "My Style" people just usually crawl into a hole and comment on youtube videos lol!
@@SenseiSeth This is the truest statement ever, lol
Yeah, ever since Pride and the UFC people have seen “their” styles win or lose against other styles time and time again so they all realised that it must be them, not what they’re training but how. Also people winning from various styles gave them trust in learning from that style (this is a reason why Aikido and Tai Chi is fading away as people don’t trust it to defend themselves) but virtually all styles have had champions that used their art as a part of their arsenal, so learning lots from various styles (be it how to use the techniques or how to counter them) seems to be what people want as that’s what the best are using.
MMA is the most valuable, just training the basics
Yessir. Smart fighters ask how "My style" can work when supplemented with "This guy's style"
Let's not forget there's more than one style of TKD just like karate
of course
"Sport Taekwondo " would most likely refer to WTF taekwondo though
Yep, and he also pointed that out
True dat. The taekwando teacher I study under blends his style with mouy thai and jujitsu so it’s really practical
I have seen some great, and I've seen some terrible. I'm super biased against an entire large national TKD organization in the US, because I worked for one of the founders, who was terrible, and have yet to see anyone come out of any of their schools with worthwhile skillsets. Though some of them supplement/run Krav Maga classes concurrently, which could be okay, but I haven't seen them develop skillsets there either. Super McDojangy. Most WT and ITF schools at least keep pretty consistent, and I've seen a lot of great practitioners out of those schools, still not perfect of course.
I’m a brand spanking new white belt in Taekwondo, I’m 39, overweight, out of shape, not really flexible and am legally blind, a heart attack survivor and have stage 4 kidney disease.... with all that going on, I feel better about myself now, I’m getting stronger, I’m not as depressed and I’m having a ball. Love the videos Sensei!
@Red Island Shaver
That’s good to hear. I plan to learn TKD in the future, but I’m a bit worried about whether or not it’s too late for me to learn. And, this might be a dumb question but it’s the main thing holding me back from joining:
When starting out, are you paired with other students of a similar level & age group? Or is it like: A 16 yr old white belt is paired up with 7 yr old white belts?
HellaBusy i don’t think it’s ever too late to start! And as far as pairing up I guess it woiid depend on your dojang, due to covid we only have 11 students per class and we are all spread apart and do the same things... so right now I’m learning kicks I likely wouldn’t learn until green belt, starting tomorrow though, we can be in grouos of 4 and we will be grouped based on size and belt level, and I’m taking a teen/adult class and up until now I’ve been the only adult, but being paired up with some teens will help me push myself to keep up.
HellaBusy go ahead! Start now! I recently started too and I’m 21 years old. Just do it! Might be a change for the better. You won’t get younger so just try it out. You’ll definitely progress if you’re interest is there.
I’m glad you’re doing great things! I started about a year ago and got my green-blue belt the other day! I never expected to here so soon it felt like yesterday I was a white belt
@@busy6865 like the other guy said it really depends on the place, but at my place we stick with our hieght and belt mainly, rather than age. A 16 yr old most likely wouldn't go against a 7 yr old as the class times would be different and he hight would be really different, but again it maily depends on hieght and belt, as well as skill. but what ever place you're looking at would probably have more answers. :)
I think what would help with TKD use outside of the sport is that they train the full thing of what TKD originally is and have both types of sparring and competition. It would at least ensure people would be able to punch knee, elbow and palm at least decently enough, while maintaining the sport aspects
I'm sure some do that!
@@SenseiSeth yeah just not enough
yep, i did old school wtf tkd, and we did grappling, kicking, punching, kneeing, elbow, grabbing, throwing, dodging, blocking, with intense footwork training
@@kimpavfxsame, I trained here on Brazil in the 90s
How to make TKD work in a street fight: Situational Awareness- Know your surroundings. Practice your kicks and punches with power ( not necessarily at 100%, but put some in there), and mostly dont assume because you are a martial artist you will always win. TKD has so much to offer!
"You may train for a long time, but if you merely move your limbs and jump around like a puppet, learning martial arts is not much different than learning a dance. You will never have learned the heart of the matter, you will have failed to grasp the quintessence of Karate"--Gichen Funakoshi (1868-1957)
Funny you should mention Funakoshi Sensei. The creator of Cung Do Kwan TKD was a student of his. It’s Korean Shotokan.
@@russellwilliams5065 Until today, i hadnt heard of Chung Do Kwon, thou from what ive looked up, it says its more Tang Soo Do, but later says TKD so i dont have much knowledge on that. I was reading it was a man by the name of Won Kuk Lee who created this style however did train under Funakoshi. I do feel Funakoshi's words still ring true regardless of which art one practices.
77Wolf that’s because it was before the government forced all the original “kwans” under one governing body ,the Kukkiwon. There was a big schism at that point which is why you have wtf and itf.
@@russellwilliams5065 that i am reading about. The history of the creation of TKD is not what i expected. I knew there was a lot of dirty moves being made, but the book "A Killing Art" is shedding a lot of light on a lot of dark corners of TKD
77Wolf yeah it’s pretty crazy. Our organization recently split from the Kukkiwon due to the political corruption at the top. Our Grandmaster’s teacher(Woon Kyu Uhm) was the head of Kukkiwon but passed away about 5 years ago, since then it’s been down hill.
It's all just a matter of how you make it work perfectly for you.
do you take tkd?
I take up amateur MMA training, for hand-to-hand combat self-defense purposes.
@@ives3572 sick
@@SenseiSeth ⚡💣💥🔥💀😁
I take tkd. Still a white belt 👍
Back like 30 years ago when I was doing more TKD, power was emphasized a lot more than it is today. Guys would get knocked out all the time not just in tourneys but just on sparring days. We used to slam roundhouses into each other's chest protectors and I don't know how many clavicles I've seen snapped by axe kicks and crescent kicks on the mat. These days, and understandably so, it's far more about speed.
But besides kicking technique and flexibility and athleticism etc, the big way being a TKD 3rd dan has helped me is just balance. Especially in Judo and to some degree BJJ -- I can keep my balance on one foot while trying to hook sweep with the other in ways I don't think I could without spending all those years in TKD. You kind of get used to operating on one foot in TKD. The footwork and balance is an advantage over others who haven't experienced it.
It was cool seeing a taekwondo fighter who could punch well. What happened to that other taekwondo guy who was mad at everything everyone said?
I must have missed that
@@SenseiSeth he was calling everyone a Mcdao or something like that during your Mcdojo video
Bottom lime, the things you get from taekwondo like comradery, fun, fitness, learning to deal with stress, self esteem are the real things that will help you in life. Learning and training to a criteria and then passing a test that's mental, physical and stressful is huge. Thats so much more than, ''what I do is for da streets'' type thing. And taekwondo has all that in spades.
Couldn't have said it better myself. 👏 5 stars 🌟
@@ssjrose9641 thank you very much👍👍
This was so great! I've never seen taekwondo explained this way and with so much detail. I had always had the "safe space karate" judgement of it I'm sorry to say!
haha it just depends on who you learn from. But I call the sport that because they dont allow punches to the head
@@SenseiSeth some ITF schools practice punches in body and head
I love these kind of conversations. Nothing but respect and open-mindedness from two experienced martial artists. Talking up about each other and just asking questions. Good stuff.
@sensei seth You gotta check ONE Championship Thanh Le, he uses TKD and won a lot of fights. His father owns TKD gym. Gotta ask him how to make TKD work in MMA.
That's awesome! I'll check him out!
@@SenseiSeth hopefully there will be podcast interview or something.
Thanh Le is a beast
This video is so refreshing in the internet mindset of "which martial art is most effective" "no point in training if it's not making you the ultimate mma fighter" while of course there is truth in those being important, sometimes we just wanna have fun practicing cool kicks even if they are impractical. That's why I do taekwondo
🙏🙏 great reason to take tkd!
Honestly as traditional ITF Tae kwon do practitioner agree with some of the things his talking . So if I’m a street fight my instinct to pick up my front leg blast into my attacker’s legs . The most effective kick in self defense In my opinion is the front snap kick . Easy to chamber and execute. Also depends on the practitioner on how much that person trains and how proficient they are .
I think the sidekick is better in a streetfight situation due to the chamber giving your options to hook kick, twist and roundhouse or just sidekick which is extremely powerful with practice and can break through a guard or even ribs
@@Artemis-ty4sz I have no idea what I'm talking about, but wouldn't a front kick be more reliable just from how easy it is to throw? Front kicks from either leg just require that you're facing the guy you want to kick, and side kicks need more of a stance shift from not being in a fighting stance.
@@Artemis-ty4sz i agree with the side kick because I don't see many front kicks in tkd sparring when at a high level.
These videos with your tkd master are true works of art, and it does confuse the 3-4 people I’ve seen that thought you were actually ripping on taekwondo instead of joking. I started about a year ago thanks to GNT and I don’t understand how time flies! It felt like yesterday I walked in the dojo a white belt, but I just received my green-blue belt! I personally think I should slow down my belt progression and focus more on refining my technique because I don’t want to start getting red on my belt until I can truly earn the red warning the belt represents... do you think I should slow down and work on technique or focus on forms and upward progress? I know you aren’t exactly equipped to give a proper recommendation because you know nothing about me but what would you have done in my decision?
Yea people think I hate tkd 😂😂 who knows why. But as far as your belt, work as hard as you can. Usually your instructor decides when you test! Go with the flow. Don’t rush 😊👍 seems like you already know that though
@@SenseiSeth "I like points!" "We know you do." I mean, I feel personally attacked, but with love and too much truth.
What type of Taekwondo do you do?
As someone who went from Tae Kwon Do to training mma, the most important thing I brought from one to the other is just overall kinesthetic awareness, already being comfortable with kicks is huge when transitioning into a sport with so many things to learn.
His point about training yourself to be in a high stress situation is very accurate. The thing about the human body's reaction to stress, is that it doesn't matter the source. Stress is the same whether you're stressed for rent or physical danger.
And great points about learning the mental side of martial arts and finding yourself in less situations to need it. I have never been in a physical confrontation since learning TKD, which was only on the last 3rd of my life.
Mad respect to the tkd Master, humble and wise.
Awesome to see a Karateka and Tae Kwon Do practitioner get together for a video like this. I'm a karateka and two of my closest friends do TKD so we like to make fun of each other and spar every now and then ha. High respect to them.
Yes another episode of fight talk!!
you know it!! learning more as often as I can!
Sensei Seth can wait till the next video/livestream
A little bit of my experience with WTF TKD, first, I'm no expert (was only able to get to green belt due to a cranky ankle and life stuff) so my knowloedge and skills are limited to that, second it was ages ago (practiced it from 2006 to around 2008-9) and BACK IN MY DAYS (I love saying this, dont take it seriouslly though) we were still called fighters rather than players, third (its worth mentioning) my teacher was a very old schooled mindset person, so he made us train both the sport movements and the real (wether traditional or more adapted to the streets movements) we were taught some punches and punching techniques, we used to do free sparring ( basically no rules except a few ones to ensure we wouldnt kill each other and so on) so, now to the point .
now i had to use it a couple of times on the "streets" and what i think TKD people has to their advantages is, when you are fully aware of your surrounding and the situation, the other person never or almost never expects you to move so quick and be so nimble on your feet (it was just kids messing around, but I managed to kick off a switchblade from my friends hand, we were fooling around but still, he did not expect it) another time it was a more serious situation involving the typical annoying drunk guy, all i really did was quickly slide to my right while switching guards (i loved to step with my left foot back, always) and threw him to the floor with a roundhouse to his solar plexus.
As for other situations, I just kept it realistic, considering what you both say, be aware of what are you standing on and what you're wearing, never try to kick to high, use your fast legs to kick the other guy in the knee caps or the groin as fast as you can then step back (our teacher used to teach us "modified" versions of the kicks to hurt those places even more) and if/when possible use your TKD push kick, its really effective and even painful when you are wearing boots (just raise your chamber a bit more for heel impact and leap forward as you do it, dont do it being static) i could keep going on, but im talking too much right now .
as for the rest, regardless of the martial or combat sport you do, always avoid fighting, a bad fight could have very harmful phyiscal consecuences (been there) legal consecuences and what not. sorry for the long story and the lazy typping.
Love it! Thanks for sharing your experiences with us! ^^
One thing I think I can add to the team analogy:
Know which one of those players you are. Sure you practice 1 style but you have strengths and weaknesses within that style, too.
So you want to add players to your team, who complement those as well.
Know your physical limitations and crosstrain accordingly.
It isn't the TKD techniques that are the problem today, it's the way TKD is taught and how hand techniques are not emphasized. The kids are overwhelmed with a curriculum that is not designed to turn out fighters. I would never give a black belt to someone who can't spar, and I don't mean constant back and forth turning kicks. TKD does that all the time. I had decent TKD techniques, but the day I found a school (Tracy's when Joe Lewis was with them) everything changed for me for the better. It's odd for me when I hear that TKD means foot hand way, and I don;t see them using hands and the limb they are connected to.
Nice. Those were some pretty good pointers. Tbh anything can go down in the streets and our training gives us the weapons we need but it always depends on what we use, how we use it and are we comfortable using it. Nice video👍
Bam! You can never be too good at stuff or be too athletic!
@@SenseiSeth 100% True
Can you do a video on ITF TKD?
ITF and WT TKD should add low kicks, kick grabs and sweeps because I see many tkd folks get gun shy when all that is on the table.
I'm 4th dan in Taekwondo, and an orange belt in hapkido and i do kickboxing. We do what we call takedown sparring in hapkido which is essentially mma sparring. I've found that Taekwondo is very much my base and I want to improve my boxing so that I can really get good at using my punches to set up kicks and vice versa. Obv in a training/combat sport application specifically self defense is different.
Love to seeing taekwondo guy
This concept of a clinch in tae kwon do is so weird to me and one of the reasons I don’t want to compete any more. Like, when I left the competition circuit, it was common to start throwing what you referred to as shovel hooks (different video) when someone got inside of kicking range. I think the rules have changed in that time because punches could score assuming they were 1) to the body and 2) were hard enough to generate “shock”. Or it could be the strategy was disincentivized by points not being awarded.
The clinch reminds me too much of what my high school football coach referred to as “dick dancing”.
I always thought it was better to start training kicking techniques at an early age and pick up other striking techniques later. Kicking seems to take much more time to master and I definitely see that difference between fighters who learned to kick later in their lives as compared to those who started learning to kick since they were like 5. What is your opinion on this?
Absolutely.
I know that I am in the minority, but I think taekwondo is fantastic for a bunch of reasons. First, it is really fun. That keeps people coming back. It is very standardized, allowing you to go gym to gym if needed. It is great for cardio, and overall body wellness. And as for street fights, or whatever, what would you rather have a Krav Maga practitioner with no sparring experience, or taekwondo with sparring every session, and tournaments frequently? If you train taekwondo you meet to learn how to sprawl, how to get off your back, and how to get out of a clinch. Then, you got a fighting chance. Is GJJ or BJJ better for the street? Probably. But people don't stick with it as much. How about MMA? Well, if you want CTE, go for it, but most of us make our money with our smarts, so, you could win a fight, but your brain is suspect. Same for boxing.
personally i believe tkd kicks are extremely effective if used correctly just like obviously a hook isnt going to work a 100% of the time but is amazing when used right
I know it’s bad etiquette generally but I liked the hands down element of taekwondo due to the fact that in a really fight you don’t start with your hands in a guard position, but of course adding a decent guard is a no brainer.
Hands down only applies to wtf olympic taekwondo where they focus more on evasion over defence. The issue is in a real fight people arent gonna give you the space like they will in wtf Taekwondo to throw out kicks. Most street fighters just wanna get close and punch you and if you dont keep your guard up while they try to do that you’re fucked
@@Artemis-ty4sz yeah very true, I agree with everything you’re saying. But it’s definitely a good idea to practice punching as well as from the guard but from a hands down position that first punch can often send a bully on their way, without a big fight happening , i know unfortunately I’ve had to send a few on their way. But if you bring the guard up first it telegraphs ur intentions and can get you in trouble. But of course keep ur hands up in a prolonged situation.
@@marcusgingell3585 theres a common “guarding” stance people talk about where you put your hand on you chin with another arm resting under, aka the “thinking” stance. Its helpful because less movement is needed to bring those hands to the side to guard and it doesnt telegraph anything. I do agree that its good to practice throwing punches from the waist still as its one of the most common positions your hand will be resting at before you potentially get jumped.
It would be so awesome to see this taekwondo master spar with wonder boy.
True
I went to an MMA class a month ago. Before that I trained Taekwondo for 5 years and boxing for 1 year. and my ass got kicked pretty hard. but after every sparing my partner said that he had never had to work so hard for a beginner. which is funny because I had the feeling that thes mma people culd eat me for breakfast.
My internet is so bad
Hahaha you came in SUPER close though!
Great video
Thanks!!
Actually I would like to see a breakdown of the differences between the side kick/cut kick executed and used in competition style Karate/TKD.
Ah and s1De kIcKz~ don't work. #sidekickesdontwork
for the politeness :P
I actually enjoyed the interview really much especially after seeing the sparring and all.
It’s like you read my mind 😉
When you say cut kick, its not really a cut kick. A cut kick is basically a low toundhouse kick to an exposed leg
I've had an ongoing playlist on my channel to teach the basic skills for taekwondo fighters to do just this. Learning boxing, leg kicks and defense, clinches, takedowns and takedown defense, ground skills, and removing inherent flaws in the sport that causes dangerous habits is the keys. Essentially taekwondo is a great kicking system. I would argue that Taekwondo works better to improve someone who is already cross training and specialize in a dangerous kicking game, but you can build off it as a base system as well if you are willing to work these other areas. At the very least, learning BJJ is a must, because you can work from kicking range and if they try to close the gap for punching either use range control or take them down. Sorry for long response, but if you are interested, here' s the playlist I have dedicated to this.
ruclips.net/p/PL-xwvF7p8HaiqVD12DdtI777XgfZrPGGA
wait thts actually so lit....im a tkd guy. ima check this out
Abe Lee enjoy!
That's awesome man, the sad thing is that old school (1950's) tkd taught kicks(50%), punches(40%), elbows & knee strikes(5%), and grappling(5%) and some schools don't teach that way anymore
I've learned from years of watching that it's not about which type of technique is best, it's about what the technique is best used in the current situation
My dojang does itf teakwondo and hapkido and Brazilian jiu jitsu
That is very true hardly anyone go for the body in a street fight lol
Everybody wants to the KO!! "I'd just go for the Body" Guys dont fight
Sensei Seth yeah I had to give someone a hard leg kick once but they took the warning and it didn’t kick off
@@TheWillToFight Leg Kicks are dope!!
Sensei Seth i’m really glad he did take the warning he was a lot bigger than me lol
@Rune Age Mage Oh yes hundred percent I made someone follow up with a body shot in one of my MMA fights it’s on the trailer on my videos
So I am currently in bootcamp for my black belt test in Krav Maga. We do all the techniques that work on the streets as well as some higher level martial arts techniques that you might not want to use on the street depending on the training level and system if any at all of your opponent . Unlike most systems we spend a lot of time working with multiple attackers at the same time that limits the techniques you can use. You would not take a guy to the ground for a submission when there are multiple attackers.
I sparred with a guy that cross trains TKD and muay thai and he's tough to beat. Good clinchwork + something that's close to kicking mastery. Still needs a bit of work on his punching, but that's about the only flaw I could find in his striking.
Great video, answered a lot of my questions!
There's TKD for sport(olympic rules-automated and manual rules) and theres also TKD for professionals fights(no armor needed, only mouth piece and groin guard)
What a great video, I'm subscribed now 😎👍
What’s your opinion on ITF tae Kwon do?
Izzy Adesanya hit that "cut kick" perfectly against Paulo Costa and cut him open
Great content! Keep it up Sensei!
Martin Marasevic thank you!!
Sensei Seth, I've been able to scare my friends even with one of the slower kicks: naeryo chagi. In fact I like using this particular kick because it is so flashy and difficult - looking (while it's not:D) I can see them flinching when my foot is already about their head :D Always works, hahaha. Speed is they key to using sports Taekwondo for the street, but come on, why would you fight? Being nice saves you some serious trouble :D
Being Nice is the best!!
The almost funny thing in the development of Taekwondo: Because of the higher narrow stance in their "Katas" (Poomsae) they ruined the learning of powerful punching. Taekwondo is in some ways derived from Shotokan Karate and from this style came Fighters who can use really the "Karate principles" of punching, like Lyoto Machida. It is like a major flaw, because the Kukkikwon Dictators concentrated only on kicking.
All you have to do is roundhouse to the knees and that's it. I dont recommend looking for a fight, but I have used this many times in "street fights". 9 out 10 people are not trained fighters and never expect a low kick and almost always throw a right. In my experiences.
This makes me feel better ab wearing a mask
"Mai Thai"
😅😂😢
I dont understand this obsesion "to make it work on the street or in a street figth" i mean, like how many figths do you have in a life time?
Anthony Petitis did a lot of TKD spinning kicks and it worked...just have to become adaptable
Combining BJJ with Muay Thai might be the strongest, but combining Taekwondo with Capoeira is definitely the coolest.
Sensei Seth, i was waiting for you to call taekwondo "safe space karate" infront of a taekwondo fighter lol
Watch til the end!
He clearly outclassed you in your sparring with him.
@@SenseiSeth I felt like it will be an even matchup before I watched it; but the opposite happened, one stood out and the other got outdone.
Clearly??
I am so checking this
It come down to training. You can't train in sport style and expected to do will in MMA or the street if you are only training to a different set of rules. Training for what you want to do.
Algo Check!!
ayee
"No kid needs to learn how to fight." That's straight up BS, unless you live in an area where no one fights. There are areas where kids pick fights with other kids, I grew up in that type of area, I've had to learn how to fight since I was 6. Teach your kids how to fight, but not to pick fights. Because there may be a day where they will need to know those skills.
Here, I should have explained. I was explaining to ALL kids, that there is nothing that happens in their day to day that is worth fighting about. I mean obviously I agree. Kids need to learn how to fight
tae kwon do does well in kickboxing, they cannot handle sidekick and question mark kicks
Noice video.
Glad you enjoyed it
It really bothers me that TKD has BECOME a sport. When I trained TKD, it was a martial system. We used hand strikes, punches, ridge hands, hammer fists and the like. All parts of the body were targets. We sparred both WTF rules AND we did free sparring, everything goes, with restraint so we don't seriously injure our partner. My skill set was trained by an old school Korean master. This is why it pisses me off when people knock TKD as merely a noneffective sport. But this is what the Kukkiwon has made it into over the past years.
Blame the Olympics :)
TKD had a sport element to it just like all the other martial arts, but it does not negate the self defense part. If you instructors fail to train you properly, that his failure not TKD.
Ok there’s two styles WTF is for sports and ITF is you can puch at the head
Hi Sensi Seth, i want to learn entire tkd online from white to black belt level,i dont need any belt or certificate.And i am looking for low cost and one time payment .Is there any such program on the internet?
Thank you
I think Sean O'Malley does a fantastic job of doing this
Being cheeky here. Inside TKD joke. What could WTF players do to have more effective MMA/Street fight moves? Learn ITF moves 😉👍
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Ayeee!! Good stuff
Hey seth hayabusa came out with a s5 boxing, can you review them
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it's sad that cause of political problems, ITF TKD was overshadowed by WTF. cause of that, lots of people think that TKD is only about kicks.
Hey!
whats up cam!
Sensei Seth not much, how about u?
its not WTF anymore, its called WT now
ayeeee
Lets goooo
Master David said he is good at high kicks. He looks like he has long legs, I have short legs but wanna learn taekwondo what would you say to me?
stretch and strengthen legs
Sup
Ayeee, what’s up!
yooo curry hows it going
I want those hayabusa's
There’s more styles of tkd WTF , Old School WTF and ITF
Also it depends how your Master teached you i got taught old school Taekwondo hard work harder kicks faster kicks
Ayooo
Oh hey!
Only if they can Box
I'm pretty sure I learned wtf taekwondo but I also learned random itf forms for some reason
Does anyone know what that means
Or is it just learning random itf tuls
Keep ITF get rid of WTF, that's the only way TKD is going to maintain any kind of credibility. Cold day in hell chance of that happening though.
I think they need to open more ITF dojangs and advertise WTF as an Olympic oriented style instead of possibly tricking people into thinking its just as or better than itf in a real-life situation
Not trying to be rude but I really don't agree with everyone saying you were outclassed. He would score more points maybe but your form and technique were of a much higher class.
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Is anyone else here a practitioner of tang soo do?
yo seth hows it goin
whats up Supreme!
Sensei Seth YOOO WAIT U REMEMBER ME??
im the one u killed like 3 times in among us (i was pink)
What does your black belt say, Seth?
SBUMA (south Boston United Martial Arts) and S. Adams on the other side 👍
Taekwondo would be a .. almost complete martial art .. if they practice.. poomsae ( kata ) practically ... And sparring using poomsae techniques
Dude cross-trains in Mai Tai?!
Ooh 117th comment 😂
ayeee lol
Tie knives to practitioners feet. Nah, Taekwando has some nearly kicks. Just ask Joe Rogan.
You walk out of the World dojang and into the International one so you're learning martial arts and not a sport.
Same as Sport Karate.
Easy.
You need to be fast enough to make them shout "WTF!?"
(I'll leave now)
Haha the gact you guys are punching and kicking each other in the face, but still wearing the mask..epic. your already wearing gi's, yall should have went full ninja!
Not true kicked someone in the head with a street fight before
WTF will survive as a past-time and olympic sport, ITF will go extinct, and a third form of Taekwondo will become the most popular: pure kicking without katas and gi (tricking without flips)
Taekwondo has lost so much. I doubt you could even find non sport Taekwondo anymore. Damn I'm getting old. Now get off my lawn!
lmao your poor lawn
That not true, some schools get carry away with competition and that because of the large number of children in the classes
@@orencio1969 No children's class when I started at six years old, they just put me in with the adults. Point sparring was just starting to get popular in the other schools in my area but my school resisted the whole nine years I was there. We always did more of a light contact PKA style sparring. The rest of the time was Hyeongs (Kata), a lot of self defense and improvised flow drills. If I ever go back to Traditional Martial Arts it would probably been Okinawan Karate or Ken/mpo (as long as the school did Bunkai). I've been watching a lot of Sensei Seth's and Jesse Enkamp"s videos and that looks closer to what I learned than the Taekwondo I've seen lately. I didn't intend to insult anyone, I had a couple of friends that went to different Taekwondo schools that focused more point sparring and it was fun to contrast the variations. It's just sad for me to realize that the way my school did things is basically gone. Stuff like keeping your hands up or at least doing a Philly Shell.
@@sovcast8760 I started TKD back in 1971, I was 11 years old, but my core arts was Uechi Ryu , for many years I did both, as I got older I got too tight and hurt my back, TKD save me and allow me to practice martial arts. The problem with any arts is going to be the instructors and that where the damage is done. From my experiences I teach as the okinawan teacher taught in a very personal and close manner
@@orencio1969 Sorry to hear about your injuries, they do add up don't they.