Bad Hasbara 38: Zio-Huasca, with David Sheen
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- Matt and Daniel talk with journalist David Sheen - author of Kahanism and American Politics - about Kahanism, where those tzedakah box coins go, and the elegant good looks of Israeli National Security Minister Itamar Ben-Gvir
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Sheen is by far one of the best guests you have had. I learnt so many things I just didn’t know before this conversation. Thank you.
Enlightening and cogent.
Listen to his presentations on his RUclips channel.
I also enjoy how he doesn't miss a beat on the tomfoolery here as they discuss such weighty topics.
Man, David knows his Hasbara !❤
That sounds rather like an insult!
You guys should invite Nemahsis to the podcast, she’s a Canadian-Palestinian singer/songwriter from Jericho who was dropped from the label she had just signed with right before her album came out because Oct. 7th happened and she’s Palestinian. She’s been having trouble ever since getting her music played or invited on any shows, which is a shame because she’s so very talented.
Definitely have David back! Also per Daniel's comment, David has worked with both Max Blumenthal and Abby Martin when they were doing their first reporting on the ground in Israel/Palestine
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That was such a good point David made that the Kahanists never protested the kidnapping and murder of Jews in Argentina at the same time they were targeting the USSR. They knew they couldn't get Jews to immigrate from Argentina. I had a Jewish friend from Leningrad who came over to the U.S.A. with the "freeing" of Jews from the USSR. He said, yes, there was career preference given to non-Jews but there wasn't an effort to stamp out Jewish culture; I met his Yiddish-speaking aunt when when she came over, but unfortunately my Yiddish skills weren't anything like they are now, and Eastern Yiddish is a bit different anyway. In the early 1930s a Jewish Autonomous Region was set aside in the Russian far east on the Trans-Siberian, about 600 km from Vladivostok, Russia and an equal distance from Harbin, China; in a couple more decades, this may be a strategic location for trade. ruclips.net/video/zRTJNpP-15c/видео.html
I don't believe there's any problem with a mixed marriage that a good rabbi can't fix. Marriage outside the grand tribe is looked at so negatively, when it wasn't always so.
“they couldn't” or they didn't have the willpower to, "@@AtlantaBill"?
Why make it sound like fucking Establishment shielded terrorists were helpless to help their self-professed co-religionists bka the Tribe facing the biggest, and widespread series of countless pogroms in a country but somehow.. Couldn't?
Today, with the latest enforced "evacuation" of Khan Younis, I must admit the Hasbara is just too depressing, so I'm gonna give this one my bare attention before switching over to the UK exit polls and seeing exactly how badly the Conservative government there get trashed. I used to live in the UK and their legislation...made my life both as a teacher and an immigrant twice as difficult as it needed to be. So seeing the definitive bad guys lose for once will give me the moral (some might say "most moral") sustenance I need.
Check out the Labour Files, about the fake antisemitic smears and the purge of the left out of the party. The bad guys are still winning.
That sustenance is like eating McDonald’s…Keir Starmer is not gonna fill your hunger, sorry to say
Aw DW the new health secretary is determined to make us hate Labour as quickly as possible. Not to mention Kid Starver refusing to reinstitute a £8million policy that solved child poverty. The "good guys" are corrupted.
Our general elections, and change of power, is just based on ‘hey, we don’t like the current government, so let’s just vote for the other one’ every 8 years. But the ‘other one’ is just a continuation of the last.
God help us all.
@@fightthepowerman”kid starver”… that’s good. 😂
David sheeeeen lets goo. its time he gets some air time. ✊✊✊✊
David was a great guest! Very interesting to hear
The "planting trees in Israel" thing seems insidious - aside from trying to terraform the place to have a more European environment, it feels like a brilliant way to spread the idea that Israel was a barren wasteland until the Jews came back to fix it. "If you need to plant trees in Israel, there must not be any trees in Israel, so surely nothing could have lived there?" It's like the tendency people have to think Africa is full of starving children because that's what the NGO's taught us, except they did so accidentally while trying to help, y'know, starving children.
@@Sorenzo In The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, Ilan Pappe describes how the European pine trees Israel planted, after bulldozing ancient groves of native olive trees, either frequently died or were supplanted by olive trees that regrew from their roots. Just as Palestinians have refused to be replaced by land thieves...
can't grow European trees in a desert, it's just asking for wildfires, there isn't enough rainfall and the tree roots seek out any water. The least they could do is study Botany and plant suitable trees, or leave the Olive trees alone.
@@fozia31I kinda love the irony of the situation. Its like the Earth (or if you want to get religious about it, God) is saying "hey...don't do that, you won't succeed" every time they want to force it.
@@IsaacSperrowgood point
Thats actually just false propaganda. The land of israel was once full of trees but all the colonial powers that conquered the land from the Romans to the ottman used the tress and left israels land a waste land. So the idea of replanting trees was inorder to bring the land back to its natural way. Most trees are aleppo pines that are native to that region.
Thanks in advance for a most moral alternative to the mindless patriotism of the 4th ❤
Honestly, Kahane's story feels like it has huge parallels with the Gladio-style programs in Europe
You need to get him back on. That was amazing
Something to actually look forward to on “independence day” 🎉
Yes a most moral counterweight to US hasbara on the 4th!
The most moral US independence day is June 19th. Because not every resident of the US was independent before 1865, and even at that many still lived as second class citizens on reservations and under Jim Crow oppression. 1776? Just a barney over taxation.
Independence-from-sanity day should be a thing for the USA. I don't know when it happened but it sure as hell did.
I refuse to celebrate explicitly settler colonialist holidays.
Bwahahahahah!
Lo-lo-love your scare-quotes.
As a non-Jewish person, I was fascinated with this episode. Thanks for the education and entertainment.
david sheen is a hero. ive been following him since 2014, when he was featured by abby martin
As usual i keep saying every episode introduces me to my new favorite guest
Just listened on Spotify and learned a lot. I'll watch again later to make sure i didn't miss anything (and i like to see people when they speak 😄). I knew of some of this but he really filled in some holes in my understanding. Thanks!
Oh God, David Sheen.... I've already got a pit in my stomach. I've watched some of his lectures a few years ago and they've left me speechless and filld me with sorrow.
Heavy stuff.
I find the points made about Ben-Gvir and the media coverage of his political party to be fascinating.
To a lesser extent, I see similar things happening elsewhere. The attention some of these divisive (outright hateful) figures get is frustrating. The uncritical oxygen they're given feeds them, then suddenly they've managed their way into parliament by feeding off the worst of society. And they know it!! There is awareness to their manipulation and the 'center-right' parties that work alongside them, to get into government. They let the further right parties push the narrative towards more hateful ideas, but distance themselves from it, even though they probably agree with it more than they let on. Ultimately it'll suit some other neoliberal purpose for them - land assets, most likely.
We have a couple of figures like this in New Zealand (or Aotearoa if you wanna be cool) who just will not go away. One guy was ALWAYS given space in the media, because he was always available. I'm not sure how much he believes in the bs he spouts, he's a bit more of a debate bro, with no values other than MONEY. Now in coalition government, his party has a ridiculous amount of important portfolios given to people clearly out of their depth. Our center-right-wing party is essentionally being wagged by the tail. By two horrid parties who only got a small percentage of the vote.... funnily enough lots of zionist rhetoric comes out of these guys. Freaking Colonists gotta stick together.
Loved the episode as usual. I'm going to see if we can organise a screening of that documentary here with our local activist groups
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Kia Ora!
The media is too scared of accusations of "bias" to hold the ridiculousness of the fascist ideas of the right wing to account. If you give them airtime but you don't call them liars, you serve the aims of the right.
Love David’s work over at ei!
Palestine's Weapon of Mass Instruction?
I watched 4 Episodes, so far. Omar Baddar, Marc Lamont, Bassem Youssef. This is my favourite ! Thank You Very Much for introducing me to David Sheen. Your episodes are getting better and better. Keep Up the Great Work ! ❤💐🦋🍃
My intro to the evil of Zionism is Ron David "Arabs & Israel for beginners".
As the famous American series goes: "Zionism for dummies"
Until JUST NOW I thought the guy was called "Mayor Kahane" because he had been a mayor. Until Daniel, I'd apparently never heard anyone pronounce his name correctly 😳
I always learn so much from you and your guests - thanks so much!
Sheen is such an intelligent and clear communicating reporter. Thanks for having him on. ❤
Zayahuasca!
A legend is born!
Forgot to say, this podcast was absolutely mind-blowing. Brilliant stuff from David Sheen. So fascinating, so eye-opening, so fucking bone-chilling.
I didn't know this man, this episode was absolutely amazing, I learned so much !
I watched this episode while on acid and man it made me laugh into tears, thank you guys for the good trip
The glee on Matt’s and Daniel’s faces when he brought up the Falic family of Florida. Just too funny, and a much-needed comedic relief in that particular moment.
David is excellent! Have been listening to him for many years.
You’re in the key of life Matt. Daniel showing off his perfect pitch
How are you able to have every episode so perfect? This one was so good. Please have him on again. Loved it, laughed, learned and loved.
I remember reading David's journalism a decade ago when I was a student. People like him helped me in forming my anti-zionist convictions a great deal, especially hearing it from an Israeli.
Wow, Matt is sure a good singer. I’d pay hundreds of dollars to go see him perform. Not really, but I hear he’s a good comic.
One for the algo this is an amazing discussion and truly enlightening. 🇵🇸❤️
you have earned a new most moral subscriber!
possibly my favorite episode so far
Im seriously depressed how evil this 🌎 has become but at least I habe you guys.
Amazing show guys. Thanks so much ❤ for this
I can't believe I missed this episode until now. So informative, and learned so much even for someone who has been binge watched and read on the topic the last 10 months... (I was aware of it before but not to this level). I love that you mixed this with comedy. We must laugh or we will go insane. Zio-Huasca was genius!
Am I horrible person for missing the autotune intro already? 😂❤🎉
Like almost as bad as the eps missing Daniel
Truly amazing. Thanks guys. You should be a required podcast in all schools' curricula. And David should have his own show everyday at 8pm on national tv.
A great information-packed episode. I might need to listen to it a couple more times just to proper digest it.
What an incredibly informative and freaking hilarious episode. You guys strike a good balance between humor and digesting shocking revelations. Thank you for this episode!
Yall are the best, thank you for helping sanity prevail.
I love this program so much. It’s your calling for sure.
Look at Dan. Tossing out, so casually, the word “calumny”. I’m unduly proud of being literate enough to catch it at all - though I had to quickly search it to assure myself I had it. That’s so sexy, Dan. If I was a gay old man… Anyway, all sapiosexuals appreciate you.
Stephan Mallenoiux has really progressed in his politics. Good for him
"if memory serves " always evokes '80s Iron Chef.
This was insane! Thank you! Please have him back!
David is very solid! Eg: check out his presentation called 'Kahanistan'!
you guys are great!
Great show again, fellas! Matt, the singing is so fun to watch. Watched you on Majority Report.. The Minority Deport was hilarious. Keep it up Matt, Daniel and Adam. Love your show.
David Sheen is incredible! watch his "Messiah Mode" & "Kahanistan" talks on his channel, so much great information
Excelente show, Excelente guest!
Cheers for the show on Holiday!
Wooooow! David Sheeeeen man! I realized I know nothing! Great episode!!!
This one of my most favorite episodes. So informative and hilarious.
I could listen to David Sheen for hours - the wealth of knowledge he has is incredible.
Please bring him back again!
Matt - next episode please add an auto tune to the intro 😂
I had formed a deeper understanding of that society through hearing David Sheen and Nurit Peled-Elhanan (author of book "Palestine in Israeli School Books: Ideology and Propaganda in Education").
I had been scratching my head considering how everyone is not questioning how they are bombing - how do they know they won't kill their own? This explains a lot. Nowadays there are some rescued hostages who say they were afraid they'll die from the IDef bombs, but still that question is not presented up front.
Tells a lot about the media. Trum..p... waaaa... aas he riiiiiiiiiiiiight? hmm? As much as I hate his type, and we're not coming from the same angle, he was right about the media!
Phenomenal…so much information, David is fantastic and presents the history in such a clear and concise way! Thank you! Love the laugh and learn concept, strong opener Matt, those mics never get old! I haven’t laughed that hard since my son used the voice changing mic to read a National Geographic for 20 min. 😂
Love you guys
Believe it or not I missed this live show bc I was listening to this weeks freaking pod!!
More David Sheen please.
A Masterclass Thank you
I have listened to this twice, so much I am learning and didnt know at all, thanks guys and more cowbell , I mean more BIBI voice
As someone else said - laughed, learned and loved ❤
Gosh, this needs to be continued seriously! David is being so generous w his time like a ton of wisdom he’s about to unload and y’all cut it so soon🥲😭
1:58:45 when Bassem Youssef talked about this, people called him antisemitic.
Excellent guest and program. Your juju is strong when you can elicit such much needed laughter on topics that could easily bring about madness.
Please do another interview with David. Incredible insights on supremacist thought and how supremicism works.
Matt keeps interrupting and then not being very eloquent. But this episode has been the densest and deepest one in a while. David is a literal walking archive and great narrator. Wow... FALIC revelations...
It's interesting that Matt is the right person to do this project but also can't do this project.
You’ll eat the slop and you’ll like it piggy.
All I hear is the satisfied oinks of a well fed hog.
A Maurice Sendak reference. Well done, fellow snob.
such an interesting episode- this is what i needed to know- the cultural shift into fascism. thanks v muchly!
just pre ordered David Sheen's book!
I love your podcast and the people you have on you just make my day
wonderful ep. I think this one edutained me the most
I came for the zio-huasca and stayed for the most moral podcast.
One of the best episodes. We need David on again soon.
(Note that anti-Apartheid Jews in South Africa were also facing persecution for speaking out at the same time Argentine Jews were persecuted in the Dirty War).
Please have Tadhg on again when Daniel is on. It would be really cool to see the 3 of you together.
Very educational episode.
Hi & thank you both for being the most moral. I'm looking for Dahab everywhere online, not finding him. Wondering if he's okay.
dahab who
Who??
Dahab Dee Zahav?
He only goes by Dahab, as far as I can tell. I saw a video with him & Daniel Maté together, that's how I know you know him, Daniel. Thank you for responding. I did find some recent posts of his, so I think maybe he's just not doing so many lives anymore. I've seen that. Sometimes people say what they have to say and then we don't hear much from them until they have something else to say. It's just part of life online (idk, I guess, I never lived so much online prior to Oct 7) that we get attached to people we don't really know and then when they disappear, we wonder if they are just living their lives or if something bad has happened to them.
This episode was a traumatic rollercoaster, but the auto-tune and dick jokes made it much easier to digest.
Thank you all for your hard work, the results of this reporting will be cataclysmic but hopefully it will lead to positive irreversible changes that are long overdue. Not just for the sake of Palestinians or Judaism but for humanity as a whole.
Disabled people are still insecure to this day and nobody talks about the undesirables
Daniel’s impression in the beginning is getting so good!
Great episode!
Super informative.
Great pod ❤❤
I thought I was knowledgeable about... all of this. Holy Crap. And in spite of all this awfulness, you guys made me laugh out loud so many times. This was an Amazing show guys, thank you for this 🙏
Great guest
Outstanding...thanks..
Thanks! What a great knowledgeable journalist
You guys were on top form! Awesome episode
We gotta get more info on this Phallic famz. Spill the tea 🍵 Mr. Sheen! 👀
Guest suggestions: Aaron Maté, Max Blumenthal, Norman Finklestien
Yes, an episode with the brothers Mate.
love all the guests you have on here. would love to see rahma zein in the mix! ur interactions/perspective are always unique.
An observation David Sheen made about Israel's separation barrier dovetails with one made by Adam Broomberg, a South African artist. He says that under apartheid, there was at least some kind of 'intimacy' between subjugator and subjugatee. White South Africans had relationships with Black South Africans as domestic staff, and black south Africans, while being 'apart', were still visible. Israel, on the other hand, has gone a step further and invisiblised Palestine and Palestinians. They successfully otherise Palestinians as demonic bloodsucking terrorists; behind the wall lives their worst nightmares etc. People get offended when the word Apartheid is used to describe Israel, but actually Israel is worse than Apartheid, if ever this could happen
Great comments, guys, thank you!
Learnt a lot of new stuff
Natanyahu on a trip is funny asf