Huge props to Raymond EMC. They understood the value a sponsored video on LTT is bringing them, and went above and beyond to help make the Lab results accurate.
Not even just this sponsored video. Every test they run for the rest of time is going to have this chamber in it (and most likely the door with their company name on it)
Really cool that Raymond EMC understands your audience well enough to sponsor their niche commercial/professional product(s) on arguably a more consumer focused tech channel. They get that the nerds behind the companies/organizations that want their products watch your content and can have a big sway when it comes to acquisitions.
well, Linus spitting terrible reviews about products will make the companies need to do better testing and probably get better equipment for doing it... and what better equipment than the equipment on the test you just failed. it's a win win situation. For Linus, For us and for the sponsor.
Well the chance that people from coops are checking RUclips for products as well is absolutely not zero, and how often do you get the chance to have a charismatic celebrity explain and present your product for "only" the price of one installation?
Been around these things too many times. If you think this chamber itself is something worth then think again. Kudos for business acumen of this company installing this chamber for free 😂 this is like drug dealer giving you first time free. Only accessories will set you off hundreds of thousands like all rotational tables, myriad of antennas, etc… then all equipment which will probably take few mil. And then salaries of people who actually know what they are doing. This is the reason why you don’t see this kind of setups even in very wealthy companies. All is nowadays outsourced to specialist certification establishments.
They even pulled the ultimate power move of a sponsorship. Not telling the guy his EM chamber is free. Linus literally states that it cost "thousands of dollars" before the re-take of "Whoops we got it for free 🤷🏼♂" Honestly that made it the most memorable sponsorship I have seen *anywhere* in a long time. But I'm also not in the market for a EM chamber.
@@hejalll a professor who was extremely passionate in his electromagnetic propagation lessons started my interest. And then, one thing lead to another. Learned about electromagnetic simulation, learned about using simulations to design RF devices, learned about manufacturing and testing said devices... And I was in! It helps that everything new in RF feels like some minor form of witchcraft hahaha
As an RF engineer, I found this video pretty impressive (not to mention I'm a little jealous of your chamber). You guys are really looking to do things the right way.
Can you please explain why the audio inside at 7:38 sounded worse than outside in a large hall? Is the material used really hard, or what is happening there?
Absolutely, I am part of a team that manage one of the biggest Wi-Fi estates in EMEA and even we don't have anything like this. Very nicely done Raymond EMC, and congrats Linus and co, ever since you started talking Wi-Fi stuff I started paying more attention and stuff like this has me really excited for upcoming content. Oh the things that could be done with a lab like this...
This is actually an incredible resource for the community as a whole, and I cannot commend the effort going in to the labs project enough, mad respect.
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As an Engineering Physics grad that works with RF electronics, it always great to see various (multi-disiplinary) courses in Univeristy being applied in the real world, from 1st year to grad level. I love it when it all comes together.
When you're able to reach this level of engagement with such a huge audience; that conventional advertising companies could only dream to match its a no brainer for large corporations. This level of exposure for any company is worth a lot of money.
What a baller move for Raymond EMC to just sponsor the entire video even tho it's so specialized and maybe like 2 people in the audience will actually go "oh yea I can use that"
It plants the seed. If some engineer, or some kid of a CTO gets wind of anything involving EMC or a chamber, they might just recall this video and its sponsor to remark about.
It's not just viewers per say. They can now advertise having worked with LTT Labs which right now isn't a big deal but in a couple of years... May also be future business directly.
But the video will stay up for a long time, it will show up quite high in search results, and if techies want to know more about EMC they might watch the video if their company is starting to feel a need for such equipment. And then they see the name of this company. It's a bit of a deep investment but yeah I can totally see why Raymond EMC would do this.
Anyone who makes any kind of electronic product whatsoever should be saying "oh yeah I can use that". Or, "oh yeah, we rented one of those". (The more likely case.) Yes, ALL (read: ALL!!!!) products should be EMC tested. However, sometimes they are made in China and violate this. Or sometimes they don't have any kind of RF receiver/transmitter, and the manufacturer is like, "eh, screw it we don't give a damn". But, unintentional radiator emissions is a thing.
Those two people, if they're in the market for it, are the kinds of people who have probably been tearing their goddamn hair out looking for a company that can just do this one goddamn thing correctly. And seeing it done correctly is often a lot more than you tend to get from most businesses like this. Usually you get a spec sheet, some technical video full of roses and spit polish, maybe a written review from somebody you've never heard of... that's it. Industry folks usually figure out which companies to hire based on who their peers are hiring. In competitive industries, they'll even keep that info secret because they don't want anyone else knowing about their suppliers. So a sponsorship like this could mean bagging some big clients.
As a physics nerd, I absolutely LOVE all these Labs hardware videos. You guys go to the perfect depth for it to stay interesting, while not going to deep for it to be confusing. Great stuff :)
A good example for something similar to the light in the chamber, is the door on a microwave - it's made of lots of holes in a similar fashion, designed to block the ~2.4 ghz frequency of the microwaves generated, but allowing you to be able to still see through :)
This whole lab setup is going to be absolutely massive for consumer tech. With the industry being more complex and harder for the layperson to understand everyday, it’s also easier than ever for dubious claims to go unnoticed, and realistically not that many people without field specific expertise were asking for something like this. As an audio nerd I was giddy to see you buying top of the line measuring tools, but this is something I wouldn’t have even considered an option before today. It makes me excited to know someone is out there with the intent to put the claims of tech companies through rigorous analysis, and hopefully foster a culture of transparency and accountability in the tech industry.
At least for most products that aren't from dodgy Chinese manufacturers, there are actual tests done in rooms even more expensive than this to make sure the product isn't radiating waves that it has no business to.
It never will be totally up and running. New testing equipment will always be designed for different situations. But it seems like it will be functioning for initial goals soon.
I can't wait to hear how somebody in the comment section is gonna nitpick this thing and claim that all of the data is useless. Followed by someone ripping off their mask and revealing that it was a Siemens rep in disguise.
This kind of content is 100% why I became a paying member for LTT's channel. I'm happy to donate if it's going to support more open and serious consumer grade electronics testing, especially with respect to things that manufacturers intentionally don't discuss or outright lie about, like signal strength. Thank you for all your hard work and commitment to the community
I actually built the HVAC systems on three similar boxes for Boeing here in the US. What!!! They gave you that chamber even though they knew you needed it, and were definitely going to make a video on it!?!?! That is an awesome move. Good on those guys
@@Jamvan001 But they could have had the ad, & charged him too. That they didn't points to either real stand-up character, or at least a realization of the long term effects of their actions. Either one is noteworthy.
Yeah giving things to people that can afford it and charging people that have way less money because they arent rich and famous enough is super cool!!!
It's cool but LMG has global reach in the tech sphere. They are going to get contracts and contacts from all over the world. From corporations to goverments and universities this is a good deal for them.
@@AprilVibes_made today in response to the video being uploaded? Makes sense if he didn't have an account beforehand and wanted to reply to people in the comments for this video he's involved in.
1. Kudos to Linus and the writing team for always making complex concepts so digestible and easy to grasp! That ability alone speaks volume about your technical expertise and commitment to providing great contents. 2. This ought to put pressure on manufacturer to actually make proper products and refrain from cutting corners. The lab is certainly moving in your direction Linus, and we are all here to support you however we can.
Yeah like I'm looking at getting a usb wifi adapter. Specifically the TX20U Plus. But the few reviews I can find have no comparisons to anything or any measurements.
My only rule for a router is no Broadcom chips as Broadcom has bad support for things like OpenWrt. I found a nice Qualcomm router which might I add is very overspeced called the DynaLink DL-WRX36, it is a WiFi 6 router with 1, 2.5G WAN port, a quad core Qualcomm IPQ8072A, 1GB of ram (doesn't sound like a lot but many routers have wayyyy less than this), 256MB Flash (again, might not sound like a lot but many routers have less), has OpenWrt support and have been running it stable for months on that (even though it is still on a snapshot release), the only caveat is that I would not trust the default firmware that comes with it just because the company is unknown so I would recommend installing OpenWrt and the most important thing (yes, even more important than these overkill specs) is the device uses Qualcomm and not Broadcom, I made the mistake of going for an Archer AX21/AX20/AX1800 (yes, Web UI, UART, and sticker on the bottom all said different model numbers) and it was painful, Dynalink has been working beautifully
The most exciting thing about this is that pretty much nobody has ever been doing similar tests on a larger scale. So it has become one of those things in the consumer space where you have no choice but to assume it probably works without issues. This could end up being as eyeopening as the cable testing.
As an RF engineer who actually does this stuff for a living, I was pretty impressed by y'all's video and knowledge on this stuff. Normally RUclipsrs will give surface level, mostly correct on complex topics like this but this video went into decent depth and was bang on in terms of facts. Granted y'all had help from your sponsor, but it's still impressive regardless.
@@Spushed Honestly, for most of that, just unplug any external cables and disconnect any antennas and it'll probably be fine. If you want details, well, they're actually a little hard to find precise details on what an EMP actually looks like and you start running into needing actual RF test equipment to figure out how good your enclosure really is. Also, exactly how bad an EMP will be in your precise location is a REALLY complicated question, even if you have the rest of that. RF engineering isn't called black magic for no reason - things like geometry, materials, and a whole lot more matter alot. A metal container will probably help (assuming it has no wires running in or out) enough, but most devices are designed with quite alot of tolerance to damage from high frequency RF. It isn't done for EMP protection, it's done for electrostatic discharge and EMI regulations, but for an unplugged device during EMP, that's really the parts you worry about. The low frequency parts of an EMP are mostly a worry for stuff with long wires or connected to the grid (which is long wires) which can act as antennas at those frequencies.
Okay, this is literally the best explanation why this thing costs what it costs. You would look at it and think: "its just a box with a foam", but damn its packed with things
As an engineer who has done RF testing in an anechoic chamber this just makes me mouth water! Linus did a great job explaining everything in laymen's terms that could hopefully engage even the non-nerds among us 😂.
the editor did a great job at including the Segue Standardized fine print, thanks for the 5 minutes, it made me real happy. And I hope you had a good gaming this weekend!
Thanks editor, for all your 5 minutes of hard work on making the memes. Its not much but it's honest work, since memes don't make themselves (at least till reality mirrors satire so much that no one can tell the difference any more) or we get AI to do it.
The ammount of effort that clearly goes into the production values of all LLT videos are just jaw dropping. Well done to the very talented team workimg at LMG❤❤ I especially loved the random shot of Linus just sitting on top of the Chamber, and the editor must also enjoy his weekend 😂😂😂
I’m an aerospace EMC engineer, this is some of the best layman’s explanation of how shielding effectiveness works. Also the discussion of grounding is very good, grounding is deceptively complicated. Great work.
@@remeuptmainI’ve seen you as a reply on several comments and they’re all negative. I can’t tell if you’re a bot or if your life is so sad that your greatest joy is being annoying for 2-3 seconds in someone’s day…
The Labs update videos are honestly my favorite series you guys have done! I'm so psyched for what this is going to do for the tech review space. Smart move on Raymond EMC's part... I wasn't consciously aware of EMC as a tech sector, and now I know exactly one provider (and will be constantly reminded of their name every time you do a wireless device review).
Flippin' love the technical walkthrough, and Linus + whoever the writer was on this one did a fantastic job communicating the engineering considerations to a layperson ❤ Hope the chamber company are happy with the video and anybody watching who works in a relevant area gets to connect with them from this!
The LTT team building such a state of the art, modern lab for testing feels like they're making a library of Alexandria of sorts, a place where tons of knowledge is gathered and the fact that they put it up on RUclips for everyone to watch feels like such a philantropic endeavour.
the commitment to science dwarfs other review channels, i have no idea about most of what you are talking about but the fact that you are going into the detail, regardless of who understands, is such a hallmark of professionalism and enthusiasm. well done chaps, keep up the good work, always enjoy your videos!
I agree Jamie. The great thing is that anything we don't understand, we can just pause the video and look up. I didn't know what I didn't know about this topic until I watched this video. Now I've got some reading to do, but it's great, because I know exactly what I want to research!
These are my favorite types of videos from LTT. I'm a science nerd with an RF engineer father. Right up my alley. I'm glad he loves his job. It makes these videos really good. I'm really glad you didn't sell.
As an engineering graduate student, I think your inclusion of accessible explanations of engineering topics is fantastic. Especially with your visual of quarter wave impedance transformers; keep it up!
Thank you to Raymond EMC for the contribution to us RF geeks 🥳, really looking forward to the videos from this. You should ask to test one of their tempest computers in the chamber. Not gaming spec but ready to go for stuff that needs to meet such restrictions and all the paper trail completed. And their scif could be an nice video if they would allow 😎
Former USAF metrologist here. I did almost 20 years of metrology with 12ish years being in RF metrology. 100K for a portable spec an with reasonable specs is a pretty damn good deal. But we were doing stuff up into the 50Ghz range by the time I medically retired which kept our unit costs substantially higher.
Yeah, it's gotten pretty reasonable (for that sort of equipment). If you need 50GHz, Keysight has portable stuff that starts at $70k that can go there. If you don't need those kind of of frequencies, Siglent has some very well reviewed equipment, some of which is actually affordable to hobbyists (decent gaming PC sort of prices). And there's alot of newer equipment that isn't like the old boat anchors - it might not be a battery powered portable, but it's easy to pick up and move with one hand.
@@ccoder4953 yeah our issue was always the accuracies that we needed... frequency response/flatness was a specific one that was always tough when you went cheaper and more portable. Putting our consistent -10 DB signal in and then checking it you know every 200 meg they would all drift really badly at some point or another in the spectrum. If you just need one to do basic checks and looking for harmonics or signals you can get away pretty cheap. We rarely needed absolute RF power accuracy because every test we did needed an accuracy that required us to use a thermistor or power sensor but then we had to rely on the s accuracy to verify a signal generator all the way out to fifty for example. I'm guessing that these guys don't really need too much absolute accuracy since they only have one analyzer and they're not calibrating signals, only measuring for relative values. If they're off by three DB and measure - 30 instead of - 27 it's not going to change the outcome of their review when the other phone they're comparing it to would also be 3 DB off at the same frequency.
Mega Shout out to Robert Oakes the Editor who did an amazing job on the fine print.🥳 And of course we do enjoy reading the fine print and all of your other Easter eggs.😊 You'd be crazy not to observe them with the wonderful effort that you're putting in and with the way things are in the world. P.S. I'm so glad RUclips finally lets you magnify videos. It's still blurry but that's better than nothing.😅
What I can’t wait for is when the lab is fully up and running is having Linus and the team be a true and honest source to get some actual feedback on the products….I have a suspicion that brands will either be hesitant to want to work with them or if they have an amazing product they will beg LTT to review it!
I've been involved with the electrical installation for MRI machine rooms, and there's a lot of similarities to this, since an MRI is magnetic imaging. It was pretty cool work to do, very detailed and careful.
If there's a logo, it should also include 'donated by' or 'gifted by'. In this instance, the enclosure wasn't gifted, it was the cost of the sponsorship
@Macree I highly doubt they gifted the whole chamber for the cost of 30 seconds of sponsorship. In linus video where he talks about how much LMG makes he gives the average cost of a sponsorship. That chamber probably cost 50× the cost of a sponsorship. They probably gave him money off the cost but who knows. Maybe sponsoring a LTT video is now the same price as a superbowl commercial
@@MrCodyminner @Cody Minner LMG is a $100m company, after all. Their influence is tremendously valuable, even for partners in a B2B space. This video has a million views in 12 hours. Unlike the Superbowl, that's a highly engaged, very tailored audience. Scroll the comments and witness the tremendous goodwill they've fostered.
@@lachychops2 1/100k people is a ridiculous assumption for the market of rf chambers. if this was the roi companies like this got on advertisements, there would be... 3500 of these chambers in america, or almost 300 per state
I just want to thank the editor, Robert Oakes. The fine print gag was amazing. I blew up the video just to read it! I hope you had fun gaming on the weekend!
As someone who works with this equipment on a daily basis. Thank you LMG for letting me view my work after work. Still learning every day. One thing i'd like to learn more about is Passive Intermodulation testing and how it can affect antenna.
Linus must really like the Portal Series, he is becoming more and more like Cave Johnson with all the testing. It's great to see them taking the effort to do things the right way.
Been to a big lab for some certification testing recently. They had all kinds of cool stuff in there from big turn tables to sensors powered over fiber optic. Most interesting difference between yours and theirs is they had the power and data cables come into the chamber under the turn table in the floor. As long as they are part of the system it appears it is not a problem.
This was interesting. I do enterprise WI-Fi for a living and tried the rig up some test apparatus from stuff I had laying around. It was a bust. I speculated a number of reasons for the failure, but wasn't confident about any of them. Your explanation confirmed quite a few of my theories, and illuminated a couple new ones that I hadn't considered.
Man, I'm gonna miss LG. Their phones were legendary for having really good reception - BACK WHEN MEDIA OUTLETS ACTUALLY TESTED THINGS LIKE THAT! I can't wait for Linus to bring back that sort of real-world capability testing to tech media. We've been relying on specs for way too long.
First time I’ve seen LTT actually taking about something I do every day in MRI rooms and other shielded applications. These types of rooms have other uses for EMP shielding for extremely important and sensitive installations that you can imagine but I can’t explicitly say.
As a Retired EE, I have used,moved,and Re-built RF Screen Chambers where i worked at during my Tenure at Cobra. I can tell you setting up a RF cage is a little bit of some work ! 1 Loose stray strand of copper will ruin your Day ! Just like Linus had to track down that Bolt through the means of the use of Resistance,it's the same method to track down that 1 Pesky Wire causing a Short ! What they DIDN'T tell you in the Video, is that Screen Booths are essentially a 2 Plane Ground Box. I'll explain,a box in a box. But each Ground Plane is separated from the other Electrically. You can't see this,cause,for this design is a solid wall outer skin booth. This is the Trick that makes the Screen Booth Work ! The 2 Wall division of the inner and outer causes a trap,a barrier like a prison wall. Nothing can get in,nor can it get out. Now you also know Why they are SO $$$$ !! Why they neglected this tidbit of info i don't know. Good of them to Give Linus a Worthy System!!! 😎
Thank you, been working and catching up on my videos now. Great real tech, I do Nuclear Engineering these days but cut my teeth first on Radio and Radar in the USN back in the early 80s. Love seeing the tech these days!
As excited as I am for the product that will be extracted from Labs, these behind the scenes, building the lab videos, are ones I'm always excited for.
I love the equipment the lab is getting. This is going to be great for consumers and companies alike when verifiable tests are finally easily available.
I said it once, and I'll say it again. I can't WAIT for the lab to be complete. LTT is one of the very very few media outlets that are mostly unbiased and mainly for the CONSUMER in how they test/try things out. They also are not afraid to call out tech giants.
His scope isn’t nearly as large as LTT but I think gamers nexus is the absolute best when it comes to putting consumers first and going REEEEALLLY into detail on things.
@nahog99 definitely into detail, but LTT makes it easier to consume than GN. (I love gn don't worry) which I feel makes it easier for a non-tech savvy person to watch and get an answer. Is it worth it? Does it do what it says? Am I being ripped off? It's just a little more simple to consume imo. GN isn't near the size team wise as LTT because of that. Also I feel LTT has MUCH better connections with people in the tech industry. He's also got much more capital.
That's actually pretty typical for engineers working on RF stuff. I work for a major semiconductor manufacturer and alot of our facilities have a room like that. It's essential if you're designing RF chips and want to get good measurements. Your typical tech RUclips channel won't have that, but rooms like that are more common than you might think, at least if you're in the tech industry.
@@remeuptmain you're commenting that same sh*t everywhere, yet nobody asked you for that, either. So I *am* going to ask you something, and that is to shut up, please :)
@@pedro4205 There's more than you think, you've probably just never heard of most of them. We don't normally sell to consumers, we sell to other companies who put our chips in your products. So you'll probably never hear about Skyworks, Semtech, Navitas, Richtek, Nordic Semiconductor, Silicon Labs, Microchip, Renesas, and many others. Not all those are "major", but many of them will have an RF room for doing either RF testing or EMI validation. I myself work for Analog Devices, who is a major semiconductor manufacturer, but not exactly a household name (even though you almost certainly own products with our chips in them). Even back when I worked for Linear Technology (before the acquisition), several of our facilities had rooms like this and LTC was sort of a medium sized company.
@@pedro4205 These rooms have lots and lots of niche uses. MEG (a really cool method of recording brain activity) uses a room like this *AND* a beehive shaped thing on your head filled with liquid helium cooled material for even more intense shielding.
THANK YOU. I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain this to people about Faraday cages. The cages themselves depend on the frequency you're trying to block, but the waves also have a fall off point. That's why your Microwave door is so thick. Remove that glass door and just put a mesh on the front, and you're liable to cook yourself if you get too close.
Unbelievably well done. Good work raymond and ltt. Lookong forward to seeing all kinds of antenna and cellphone test results comming out of this thing.. ltt is still king of tech after all these years
To see this channel going this far into the crazy world of rf is so cool. Worked on B1 radar and ew systems for a while and sometimes i kinda miss the complexity of it all
That is a nice door! As an engineer it would be nice if they had more information on their website that was publicly available. Many don’t have time to wait for a response that might be + a week to ascertain the needed info, hard when trying to evaluate contractors.
as someone who studied RF engineering at uni, I'm super psyched to see your test chamber, and looking forward to seeing what tests you do in the future
This is exciting stuff. The Lab is going to be so flipping amazing when it's 100% finished. I can't convey this through text but I'm legit giddy with excitement right now. Can't wait to see more Labs content
Love seeing the stuff that us RF engineers use. Makes me giddy seeing Linus play with the stuff I get to play with too! Can't wait to see what you guys do with it!
There was a chamber like that where I used to work and the panels on the walls with the pyramids were made of thus conductive foam and had the effect of muting sound as well as electromagnetic waves. Walking in and closing the door it was so abnormally quiet that my ears would actually hurt.
Huge props to Raymond EMC. They understood the value a sponsored video on LTT is bringing them, and went above and beyond to help make the Lab results accurate.
I didn't have top of mind awareness of any EMC companies before, and now I do of one. The marketing works I guess.
Not even just this sponsored video. Every test they run for the rest of time is going to have this chamber in it (and most likely the door with their company name on it)
Now I know an EMC provider...
$$$
@@HankW I had no intention of buying a Faraday cage, and now I'm tempted to look into it.
Really cool that Raymond EMC understands your audience well enough to sponsor their niche commercial/professional product(s) on arguably a more consumer focused tech channel. They get that the nerds behind the companies/organizations that want their products watch your content and can have a big sway when it comes to acquisitions.
well, Linus spitting terrible reviews about products will make the companies need to do better testing and probably get better equipment for doing it... and what better equipment than the equipment on the test you just failed. it's a win win situation. For Linus, For us and for the sponsor.
Well the chance that people from coops are checking RUclips for products as well is absolutely not zero, and how often do you get the chance to have a charismatic celebrity explain and present your product for "only" the price of one installation?
Or maybe some of us are Charles McGill?
idk tho im not him
Hey consumers have jobs at companies too.
Been around these things too many times. If you think this chamber itself is something worth then think again. Kudos for business acumen of this company installing this chamber for free 😂 this is like drug dealer giving you first time free. Only accessories will set you off hundreds of thousands like all rotational tables, myriad of antennas, etc… then all equipment which will probably take few mil. And then salaries of people who actually know what they are doing. This is the reason why you don’t see this kind of setups even in very wealthy companies. All is nowadays outsourced to specialist certification establishments.
That sponsorship was insane! Really nice company!
@@remeuptmain what r u upto ?
@@remeuptmain Dream stan that doesn't know proper grammar???
@@techconix don’t by into it
@@ayoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo by my sword
They even pulled the ultimate power move of a sponsorship. Not telling the guy his EM chamber is free. Linus literally states that it cost "thousands of dollars" before the re-take of "Whoops we got it for free 🤷🏼♂"
Honestly that made it the most memorable sponsorship I have seen *anywhere* in a long time. But I'm also not in the market for a EM chamber.
As an RF engineer, I'm so happy to see such an excellent in-depth explanation in such a big channel. Hats off to you, LMG.
Im going there, "Don't lick the door".
What motivated you to get into RF?
@@hejalll it´s magic....and dragons might be there
@@hejalll a professor who was extremely passionate in his electromagnetic propagation lessons started my interest. And then, one thing lead to another. Learned about electromagnetic simulation, learned about using simulations to design RF devices, learned about manufacturing and testing said devices... And I was in!
It helps that everything new in RF feels like some minor form of witchcraft hahaha
"Hats off to you, LMG."
A tinfoil hat, is it? :P
I love the editing in this video, the way they changed the shots while still continuing the script, props to Linus and the editing team
As an RF engineer, I found this video pretty impressive (not to mention I'm a little jealous of your chamber). You guys are really looking to do things the right way.
Can you please explain why the audio inside at 7:38 sounded worse than outside in a large hall? Is the material used really hard, or what is happening there?
@@cubertmiso probably because of the panels on the walls. Sound would bounce differently from them
@@remeuptmain no one had to lmao, its a comment in the comment section, this not a FAQ 😭🤣
@@remeuptmain Bro had to have his, "I'm an engineer" moment
Absolutely, I am part of a team that manage one of the biggest Wi-Fi estates in EMEA and even we don't have anything like this. Very nicely done Raymond EMC, and congrats Linus and co, ever since you started talking Wi-Fi stuff I started paying more attention and stuff like this has me really excited for upcoming content. Oh the things that could be done with a lab like this...
This is actually an incredible resource for the community as a whole, and I cannot commend the effort going in to the labs project enough, mad respect.
Lots of us out there are asking for really hard facts to counteract the marketing and bs. Mad respect indeed.
@@remeuptmain bro called one sentence an essay 💀
@@benjamin_lincolnhe's a "troll" just ignore the kid.
Mad props to Raymond EMC. That's like a lot of money to just give them this. Really excited for more and loving the Lab updates.
yep. they did it cuz Linus couldnt drop it :)
Edit or editor we appreciate the hard work you do to provide deliberate and consistent content to LMG. I read the note, I hope you have fun with your games this weekend. Take a second to realize that your super valuable and needed for fun little instances such as this. Thank you again an avid LMG fan. 12:21
I didn't know how so many people suddenly decided to say hi all at once, so I went back through the video to see why. Once I saw it, I had the chance to stop and read and enjoy. Thank you for that moment of daily happiness, dear Editor. 👍
As an Engineering Physics grad that works with RF electronics, it always great to see various (multi-disiplinary) courses in Univeristy being applied in the real world, from 1st year to grad level.
I love it when it all comes together.
Crazy how his sponsorships are becoming for professionals and companies now. Such amazing growth.
The man, the legend.
When you're able to reach this level of engagement with such a huge audience; that conventional advertising companies could only dream to match its a no brainer for large corporations. This level of exposure for any company is worth a lot of money.
Might actually buy from this one too
@@Cust0mBuildersponsor block go brr
Didn't a professional/ some co. saw a video or take a grain of salt from LTT and it works? Not sure if it's his twitter or a comment.
What a baller move for Raymond EMC to just sponsor the entire video even tho it's so specialized and maybe like 2 people in the audience will actually go "oh yea I can use that"
It plants the seed. If some engineer, or some kid of a CTO gets wind of anything involving EMC or a chamber, they might just recall this video and its sponsor to remark about.
It's not just viewers per say. They can now advertise having worked with LTT Labs which right now isn't a big deal but in a couple of years... May also be future business directly.
But the video will stay up for a long time, it will show up quite high in search results, and if techies want to know more about EMC they might watch the video if their company is starting to feel a need for such equipment. And then they see the name of this company. It's a bit of a deep investment but yeah I can totally see why Raymond EMC would do this.
Anyone who makes any kind of electronic product whatsoever should be saying "oh yeah I can use that". Or, "oh yeah, we rented one of those". (The more likely case.)
Yes, ALL (read: ALL!!!!) products should be EMC tested. However, sometimes they are made in China and violate this. Or sometimes they don't have any kind of RF receiver/transmitter, and the manufacturer is like, "eh, screw it we don't give a damn". But, unintentional radiator emissions is a thing.
Those two people, if they're in the market for it, are the kinds of people who have probably been tearing their goddamn hair out looking for a company that can just do this one goddamn thing correctly. And seeing it done correctly is often a lot more than you tend to get from most businesses like this. Usually you get a spec sheet, some technical video full of roses and spit polish, maybe a written review from somebody you've never heard of... that's it. Industry folks usually figure out which companies to hire based on who their peers are hiring. In competitive industries, they'll even keep that info secret because they don't want anyone else knowing about their suppliers. So a sponsorship like this could mean bagging some big clients.
As a physics nerd, I absolutely LOVE all these Labs hardware videos.
You guys go to the perfect depth for it to stay interesting, while not going to deep for it to be confusing. Great stuff :)
@@remeuptmainI don’t think RUclips is a good place to vent about your daddy issues bud
A good example for something similar to the light in the chamber, is the door on a microwave - it's made of lots of holes in a similar fashion, designed to block the ~2.4 ghz frequency of the microwaves generated, but allowing you to be able to still see through :)
This whole lab setup is going to be absolutely massive for consumer tech. With the industry being more complex and harder for the layperson to understand everyday, it’s also easier than ever for dubious claims to go unnoticed, and realistically not that many people without field specific expertise were asking for something like this. As an audio nerd I was giddy to see you buying top of the line measuring tools, but this is something I wouldn’t have even considered an option before today. It makes me excited to know someone is out there with the intent to put the claims of tech companies through rigorous analysis, and hopefully foster a culture of transparency and accountability in the tech industry.
At least for most products that aren't from dodgy Chinese manufacturers, there are actual tests done in rooms even more expensive than this to make sure the product isn't radiating waves that it has no business to.
the lab is getting ridicoulusly good equipment for such great tests
yep linus doing the lab is way better compared to the actual companies claims
@@remeuptmain no one asked you to be birthed, yet here you are.
True, it gets better almost every video
@@remeuptmain How do you live with all that hate in your head?
@@remeuptmain And nobody asked for yours
The lab updates are cool, can’t wait for it to be totally up and running
It never will be totally up and running. New testing equipment will always be designed for different situations.
But it seems like it will be functioning for initial goals soon.
Wonder how much the whole facility is worth if they were to sell it right now.
I can't wait to hear how somebody in the comment section is gonna nitpick this thing and claim that all of the data is useless.
Followed by someone ripping off their mask and revealing that it was a Siemens rep in disguise.
@@arnox4554 at least $100 million apparently
@@BigBoyJay_69 It's probably up to $300 million now.
This kind of content is 100% why I became a paying member for LTT's channel. I'm happy to donate if it's going to support more open and serious consumer grade electronics testing, especially with respect to things that manufacturers intentionally don't discuss or outright lie about, like signal strength.
Thank you for all your hard work and commitment to the community
I actually built the HVAC systems on three similar boxes for Boeing here in the US.
What!!! They gave you that chamber even though they knew you needed it, and were definitely going to make a video on it!?!?! That is an awesome move. Good on those guys
"They gave you that chamber" in return for a dedicated 13 minute ad seen by 1.2 million people so far.
@@Jamvan001 TBF it's rare to see engineering solution ads anyway
Those guys usually run mostly from mouth-to-mouth advertisement.
@@Jamvan001 But they could have had the ad, & charged him too. That they didn't points to either real stand-up character, or at least a realization of the long term effects of their actions. Either one is noteworthy.
@@Jamvan001 Sure, but this is a seriously expensive chamber. Probably 6 figures expensive.
Yeah giving things to people that can afford it and charging people that have way less money because they arent rich and famous enough is super cool!!!
Thank you Raymond EMC, this is the kind of content we want to see and you helped make it happen! Cheers!
What a man the CEO is for personally coming around to setup a big gift for Linus!
Thanks!
@@BruceAlexanderREMC You really are awesome
It's cool but LMG has global reach in the tech sphere. They are going to get contracts and contacts from all over the world. From corporations to goverments and universities this is a good deal for them.
@@llamaduden3397 the account was made today lmao
@@AprilVibes_made today in response to the video being uploaded? Makes sense if he didn't have an account beforehand and wanted to reply to people in the comments for this video he's involved in.
1. Kudos to Linus and the writing team for always making complex concepts so digestible and easy to grasp! That ability alone speaks volume about your technical expertise and commitment to providing great contents.
2. This ought to put pressure on manufacturer to actually make proper products and refrain from cutting corners. The lab is certainly moving in your direction Linus, and we are all here to support you however we can.
looking forward to the router stuff. It's been impossible to tell what routers are worth it without some objective stats.
Yeah like I'm looking at getting a usb wifi adapter. Specifically the TX20U Plus. But the few reviews I can find have no comparisons to anything or any measurements.
@@remeuptmain shutup
Router's doesn't need to be tested in that chamber. Their performance can be tested easily by software.
@@iamaduckquack No one asked 🤣
My only rule for a router is no Broadcom chips as Broadcom has bad support for things like OpenWrt. I found a nice Qualcomm router which might I add is very overspeced called the DynaLink DL-WRX36, it is a WiFi 6 router with 1, 2.5G WAN port, a quad core Qualcomm IPQ8072A, 1GB of ram (doesn't sound like a lot but many routers have wayyyy less than this), 256MB Flash (again, might not sound like a lot but many routers have less), has OpenWrt support and have been running it stable for months on that (even though it is still on a snapshot release), the only caveat is that I would not trust the default firmware that comes with it just because the company is unknown so I would recommend installing OpenWrt and the most important thing (yes, even more important than these overkill specs) is the device uses Qualcomm and not Broadcom, I made the mistake of going for an Archer AX21/AX20/AX1800 (yes, Web UI, UART, and sticker on the bottom all said different model numbers) and it was painful, Dynalink has been working beautifully
Seeing Linus go from janky unboxings to LMG reaching the critical mass required to have this kind of equipment is wild.
The most exciting thing about this is that pretty much nobody has ever been doing similar tests on a larger scale. So it has become one of those things in the consumer space where you have no choice but to assume it probably works without issues. This could end up being as eyeopening as the cable testing.
it makes me happy he turned down the $100m
As an RF engineer who actually does this stuff for a living, I was pretty impressed by y'all's video and knowledge on this stuff.
Normally RUclipsrs will give surface level, mostly correct on complex topics like this but this video went into decent depth and was bang on in terms of facts.
Granted y'all had help from your sponsor, but it's still impressive regardless.
im sorry but by the way you write i cant imagine a world where you're not from a southern state 😂
A14245, for the simple task of protecting equipment from an EMP or solar event, will a basic grounded and sealed metal container do the trick?
@@Spushed Honestly, for most of that, just unplug any external cables and disconnect any antennas and it'll probably be fine. If you want details, well, they're actually a little hard to find precise details on what an EMP actually looks like and you start running into needing actual RF test equipment to figure out how good your enclosure really is. Also, exactly how bad an EMP will be in your precise location is a REALLY complicated question, even if you have the rest of that. RF engineering isn't called black magic for no reason - things like geometry, materials, and a whole lot more matter alot. A metal container will probably help (assuming it has no wires running in or out) enough, but most devices are designed with quite alot of tolerance to damage from high frequency RF. It isn't done for EMP protection, it's done for electrostatic discharge and EMI regulations, but for an unplugged device during EMP, that's really the parts you worry about. The low frequency parts of an EMP are mostly a worry for stuff with long wires or connected to the grid (which is long wires) which can act as antennas at those frequencies.
@@Spushed I'm exclusively focused on Cellular testing so that's a bit out of my wheelhouse. I'd go with what ccoder commented, it seems solid.
@@a14245_ my apologies sir I am not seeing his comment could you possibly briefly TLDR what he said?
As an EMC engineer, this video has me smiling ear to ear.
Pretty psyched to see some results videos posted by the lab with hard evidence thanks to the chamber.
Okay, this is literally the best explanation why this thing costs what it costs. You would look at it and think: "its just a box with a foam", but damn its packed with things
Yup, box, foam, screws, breathing...whole bunch of science they packed into that thing!
@@remeuptmain yet you commented anyways
As an engineer who has done RF testing in an anechoic chamber this just makes me mouth water! Linus did a great job explaining everything in laymen's terms that could hopefully engage even the non-nerds among us 😂.
the editor did a great job at including the Segue Standardized fine print, thanks for the 5 minutes, it made me real happy. And I hope you had a good gaming this weekend!
Bro even dropped the sponsorships 💀
That new room really blocks out all kind of radiation.
Good one!😂
Bros comment is ass
i mean.. there is a sponsorship, bro just didnt watch the video at all cuz he commented as posted
or look at the first line in the description
Thanks editor, for all your 5 minutes of hard work on making the memes.
Its not much but it's honest work, since memes don't make themselves (at least till reality mirrors satire so much that no one can tell the difference any more) or we get AI to do it.
I hope the editor had fun gaming last weekend
The editor sure does deserve to game on his weekend.
and chill too.. don't forget about that one.
@@remeuptmain I asked
@@remeuptmain do you have a degradation fetish or something
@@remeuptmain nvm you a bot bruh
Nice try, editor
This is SO COOL! Enjoyed learning about it and thanks Bruce and team for coming in to personally be involved in such an interesting project!
It is wild how much more complicated things are then they seem at the surface. Engineers are awesome!
The ammount of effort that clearly goes into the production values of all LLT videos are just jaw dropping.
Well done to the very talented team workimg at LMG❤❤
I especially loved the random shot of Linus just sitting on top of the Chamber, and the editor must also enjoy his weekend 😂😂😂
I’m an aerospace EMC engineer, this is some of the best layman’s explanation of how shielding effectiveness works. Also the discussion of grounding is very good, grounding is deceptively complicated. Great work.
Its so cool to see all these companies jump on board for the lab, glad these companies want to hold manufacturers acountable just as much
It's so exciting how on-board major companies and engineers are to actually get their projects tested in the open.
I can't wait for the future
Great to see you going pro. I've used Raymond EMC for many installs in the states. Great to work with.
I appreciate all the work the EDITOR puts into these videos XD
Same! THE EDITOR did an awesome job!
Omg 100000% more of this please
@@remeuptmainI’ve seen you as a reply on several comments and they’re all negative. I can’t tell if you’re a bot or if your life is so sad that your greatest joy is being annoying for 2-3 seconds in someone’s day…
@@ThatDiabeticChemist thats what im saying lol got nun constructive going on at all up there
@@Voyajer. 11/10 deserved in this case
THISS 1000X
12:20 The Editor really did the finest of fine print thats ever been fined. Have a great day!
I wonder what game they played on the weekend?
The Labs update videos are honestly my favorite series you guys have done! I'm so psyched for what this is going to do for the tech review space.
Smart move on Raymond EMC's part... I wasn't consciously aware of EMC as a tech sector, and now I know exactly one provider (and will be constantly reminded of their name every time you do a wireless device review).
Flippin' love the technical walkthrough, and Linus + whoever the writer was on this one did a fantastic job communicating the engineering considerations to a layperson ❤
Hope the chamber company are happy with the video and anybody watching who works in a relevant area gets to connect with them from this!
The LTT team building such a state of the art, modern lab for testing feels like they're making a library of Alexandria of sorts, a place where tons of knowledge is gathered and the fact that they put it up on RUclips for everyone to watch feels like such a philantropic endeavour.
Let's hope it doesn't burn down like it though.
Midwit
the commitment to science dwarfs other review channels, i have no idea about most of what you are talking about but the fact that you are going into the detail, regardless of who understands, is such a hallmark of professionalism and enthusiasm. well done chaps, keep up the good work, always enjoy your videos!
I agree Jamie. The great thing is that anything we don't understand, we can just pause the video and look up. I didn't know what I didn't know about this topic until I watched this video. Now I've got some reading to do, but it's great, because I know exactly what I want to research!
These are my favorite types of videos from LTT. I'm a science nerd with an RF engineer father. Right up my alley.
I'm glad he loves his job. It makes these videos really good. I'm really glad you didn't sell.
As an engineering graduate student, I think your inclusion of accessible explanations of engineering topics is fantastic. Especially with your visual of quarter wave impedance transformers; keep it up!
Thank you to Raymond EMC for the contribution to us RF geeks 🥳, really looking forward to the videos from this. You should ask to test one of their tempest computers in the chamber. Not gaming spec but ready to go for stuff that needs to meet such restrictions and all the paper trail completed. And their scif could be an nice video if they would allow 😎
Former USAF metrologist here. I did almost 20 years of metrology with 12ish years being in RF metrology. 100K for a portable spec an with reasonable specs is a pretty damn good deal. But we were doing stuff up into the 50Ghz range by the time I medically retired which kept our unit costs substantially higher.
Yeah, it's gotten pretty reasonable (for that sort of equipment). If you need 50GHz, Keysight has portable stuff that starts at $70k that can go there. If you don't need those kind of of frequencies, Siglent has some very well reviewed equipment, some of which is actually affordable to hobbyists (decent gaming PC sort of prices). And there's alot of newer equipment that isn't like the old boat anchors - it might not be a battery powered portable, but it's easy to pick up and move with one hand.
@@ccoder4953 yeah our issue was always the accuracies that we needed... frequency response/flatness was a specific one that was always tough when you went cheaper and more portable.
Putting our consistent -10 DB signal in and then checking it you know every 200 meg they would all drift really badly at some point or another in the spectrum.
If you just need one to do basic checks and looking for harmonics or signals you can get away pretty cheap. We rarely needed absolute RF power accuracy because every test we did needed an accuracy that required us to use a thermistor or power sensor but then we had to rely on the s accuracy to verify a signal generator all the way out to fifty for example.
I'm guessing that these guys don't really need too much absolute accuracy since they only have one analyzer and they're not calibrating signals, only measuring for relative values. If they're off by three DB and measure - 30 instead of - 27 it's not going to change the outcome of their review when the other phone they're comparing it to would also be 3 DB off at the same frequency.
Mega Shout out to Robert Oakes the Editor who did an amazing job on the fine print.🥳 And of course we do enjoy reading the fine print and all of your other Easter eggs.😊 You'd be crazy not to observe them with the wonderful effort that you're putting in and with the way things are in the world.
P.S. I'm so glad RUclips finally lets you magnify videos. It's still blurry but that's better than nothing.😅
Glad I'm not the only one who took the time to pause and read it. Like a small club of nerdiest nerds.
Hint Please!
have you ever seen a vagina dude ?
@@sofuswurtz5951 Try pausing around 12:18 😁
@@MindlessDude Or people who deal with legal on a regular basis😅
Even if phone sponsorships, don’t have you, at least Raymond has you.
Everybody loves Raymond
Everybody loves Raymond!
Unnecessary comma in front of "don't." It makes your sentence look fucking stupid.
What I can’t wait for is when the lab is fully up and running is having Linus and the team be a true and honest source to get some actual feedback on the products….I have a suspicion that brands will either be hesitant to want to work with them or if they have an amazing product they will beg LTT to review it!
Exactly, I see some serious revelations coming in the future and not all companies will be excited by it.
I've been involved with the electrical installation for MRI machine rooms, and there's a lot of similarities to this, since an MRI is magnetic imaging. It was pretty cool work to do, very detailed and careful.
You should definitely put GIANT logos of the companies that gift you these items on the items so they can be in the background of future videos!
If there's a logo, it should also include 'donated by' or 'gifted by'. In this instance, the enclosure wasn't gifted, it was the cost of the sponsorship
@Macree I highly doubt they gifted the whole chamber for the cost of 30 seconds of sponsorship. In linus video where he talks about how much LMG makes he gives the average cost of a sponsorship. That chamber probably cost 50× the cost of a sponsorship. They probably gave him money off the cost but who knows. Maybe sponsoring a LTT video is now the same price as a superbowl commercial
@@MrCodyminner @Cody Minner LMG is a $100m company, after all. Their influence is tremendously valuable, even for partners in a B2B space.
This video has a million views in 12 hours. Unlike the Superbowl, that's a highly engaged, very tailored audience. Scroll the comments and witness the tremendous goodwill they've fostered.
@@MrCodyminner all it would take for a decent ROI is 10-20 people that need this sort of enclosure to be in the ~1,000,000 viewers 🤷
@@lachychops2 1/100k people is a ridiculous assumption for the market of rf chambers. if this was the roi companies like this got on advertisements, there would be... 3500 of these chambers in america, or almost 300 per state
That is a sponsorship that makes sense for everyone.
You get a chamber, and they get tons of exposure even going forward 🙂
"The wave ends up more canceled than Kanye West" @3:50 is the most Canadian I've heard Linus sound.
I just want to thank the editor, Robert Oakes. The fine print gag was amazing. I blew up the video just to read it! I hope you had fun gaming on the weekend!
Amazing work editor, I really appreciated the fine print, it was the finest
You should be so proud what you're doing for the tech space honestly!!
As someone who works with this equipment on a daily basis. Thank you LMG for letting me view my work after work. Still learning every day. One thing i'd like to learn more about is Passive Intermodulation testing and how it can affect antenna.
Linus must really like the Portal Series, he is becoming more and more like Cave Johnson with all the testing. It's great to see them taking the effort to do things the right way.
Been to a big lab for some certification testing recently. They had all kinds of cool stuff in there from big turn tables to sensors powered over fiber optic.
Most interesting difference between yours and theirs is they had the power and data cables come into the chamber under the turn table in the floor. As long as they are part of the system it appears it is not a problem.
EDITOR: Your fine print made my day.
Love the fine small details from the editor - and the chamber is also fine, nearly as impressive.
This was interesting. I do enterprise WI-Fi for a living and tried the rig up some test apparatus from stuff I had laying around. It was a bust. I speculated a number of reasons for the failure, but wasn't confident about any of them. Your explanation confirmed quite a few of my theories, and illuminated a couple new ones that I hadn't considered.
The editor did an especially great job at this video :)
I'm not sure I'd say the editor did a "great" job, but they definitely did a fine job. The finest!
if you know you know 😂
Please continue doing these types of more technical videos about the lab build. They're very interesting.
Im really excited to keep track about the new content... shout out to Raymond EMC
Man, I'm gonna miss LG. Their phones were legendary for having really good reception - BACK WHEN MEDIA OUTLETS ACTUALLY TESTED THINGS LIKE THAT! I can't wait for Linus to bring back that sort of real-world capability testing to tech media. We've been relying on specs for way too long.
The editor standard fine print was really good! Thank you for your service to the community.
The fine print was FFIINNEEE
First time I’ve seen LTT actually taking about something I do every day in MRI rooms and other shielded applications. These types of rooms have other uses for EMP shielding for extremely important and sensitive installations that you can imagine but I can’t explicitly say.
Ooooh, someone has a security clearance and/or is under an NDA 😏
As a Retired EE, I have used,moved,and Re-built RF Screen Chambers where i worked at during my Tenure at Cobra. I can tell you setting up a RF cage is a little bit of some work ! 1 Loose stray strand of copper will ruin your Day ! Just like Linus had to track down that Bolt through the means of the use of Resistance,it's the same method to track down that 1 Pesky Wire causing a Short !
What they DIDN'T tell you in the Video, is that Screen Booths are essentially a 2 Plane Ground Box. I'll explain,a box in a box. But each Ground Plane is separated from the other Electrically. You can't see this,cause,for this design is a solid wall outer skin booth. This is the Trick that makes the Screen Booth Work ! The 2 Wall division of the inner and outer causes a trap,a barrier like a prison wall. Nothing can get in,nor can it get out.
Now you also know Why they are SO $$$$ !! Why they neglected this tidbit of info i don't know. Good of them to Give Linus a Worthy System!!! 😎
Thank you, been working and catching up on my videos now. Great real tech, I do Nuclear Engineering these days but cut my teeth first on Radio and Radar in the USN back in the early 80s. Love seeing the tech these days!
As excited as I am for the product that will be extracted from Labs, these behind the scenes, building the lab videos, are ones I'm always excited for.
the kanye west line was very well placed. proud of you, linus + writers
I love the equipment the lab is getting. This is going to be great for consumers and companies alike when verifiable tests are finally easily available.
@@remeuptmain ????
I said it once, and I'll say it again. I can't WAIT for the lab to be complete. LTT is one of the very very few media outlets that are mostly unbiased and mainly for the CONSUMER in how they test/try things out. They also are not afraid to call out tech giants.
His scope isn’t nearly as large as LTT but I think gamers nexus is the absolute best when it comes to putting consumers first and going REEEEALLLY into detail on things.
@nahog99 definitely into detail, but LTT makes it easier to consume than GN. (I love gn don't worry) which I feel makes it easier for a non-tech savvy person to watch and get an answer. Is it worth it? Does it do what it says? Am I being ripped off? It's just a little more simple to consume imo. GN isn't near the size team wise as LTT because of that. Also I feel LTT has MUCH better connections with people in the tech industry. He's also got much more capital.
Its awesome to see so many companies getting behind the idea of LTT Labs and helping you guys push for fair neutral testing and verification
Why yes. I was just looking for a properly built EMC to go in my living room!
This is all seriously cool! Thanks for including so many technical details without making it too confusing
Few tech labs have such a thought out sofisticated and dedicated EMC cage you guys and the raymond teams are crazy!
That's actually pretty typical for engineers working on RF stuff. I work for a major semiconductor manufacturer and alot of our facilities have a room like that. It's essential if you're designing RF chips and want to get good measurements. Your typical tech RUclips channel won't have that, but rooms like that are more common than you might think, at least if you're in the tech industry.
@@remeuptmain you're commenting that same sh*t everywhere, yet nobody asked you for that, either.
So I *am* going to ask you something, and that is to shut up, please :)
@@ccoder4953 A major semiconductor manufacturer isn't exactly a typical company. As a matter of fact, there aren't even dozens of them.
@@pedro4205 There's more than you think, you've probably just never heard of most of them. We don't normally sell to consumers, we sell to other companies who put our chips in your products. So you'll probably never hear about Skyworks, Semtech, Navitas, Richtek, Nordic Semiconductor, Silicon Labs, Microchip, Renesas, and many others. Not all those are "major", but many of them will have an RF room for doing either RF testing or EMI validation. I myself work for Analog Devices, who is a major semiconductor manufacturer, but not exactly a household name (even though you almost certainly own products with our chips in them). Even back when I worked for Linear Technology (before the acquisition), several of our facilities had rooms like this and LTC was sort of a medium sized company.
@@pedro4205 These rooms have lots and lots of niche uses. MEG (a really cool method of recording brain activity) uses a room like this *AND* a beehive shaped thing on your head filled with liquid helium cooled material for even more intense shielding.
THANK YOU. I can't tell you how many times I've had to explain this to people about Faraday cages. The cages themselves depend on the frequency you're trying to block, but the waves also have a fall off point. That's why your Microwave door is so thick. Remove that glass door and just put a mesh on the front, and you're liable to cook yourself if you get too close.
Unbelievably well done. Good work raymond and ltt. Lookong forward to seeing all kinds of antenna and cellphone test results comming out of this thing.. ltt is still king of tech after all these years
To see this channel going this far into the crazy world of rf is so cool. Worked on B1 radar and ew systems for a while and sometimes i kinda miss the complexity of it all
That is a nice door! As an engineer it would be nice if they had more information on their website that was publicly available. Many don’t have time to wait for a response that might be + a week to ascertain the needed info, hard when trying to evaluate contractors.
this is the one I've been most excited to see, I can't wait for more in depth phone testing.
@@remeuptmain you’re really going to like every comment and replying even though clearly nobody asked you 😂
@@TheCodeTurtle Probably a 6yo kiddo living in a basement. You have to be perrty bored and stupid to write a negative reply to a bunch of comments.
as someone who studied RF engineering at uni, I'm super psyched to see your test chamber, and looking forward to seeing what tests you do in the future
“And the wave ends up more cancelled than Kanye West”
7:08
"Dont drop it"
This is exciting stuff. The Lab is going to be so flipping amazing when it's 100% finished. I can't convey this through text but I'm legit giddy with excitement right now. Can't wait to see more Labs content
This is so exciting. I can't wait to see the lab fully operational.
@@remeuptmain i did stf kid
@@remeuptmain mtm
That freaking cool. Ray EMC has maxxed out respect
As an EMC Engineer! i’m super glad that i saw this video!
Love seeing the stuff that us RF engineers use. Makes me giddy seeing Linus play with the stuff I get to play with too! Can't wait to see what you guys do with it!
Raymond EMC need a huge W for this
I love how much you can learn with videos like this.
There was a chamber like that where I used to work and the panels on the walls with the pyramids were made of thus conductive foam and had the effect of muting sound as well as electromagnetic waves. Walking in and closing the door it was so abnormally quiet that my ears would actually hurt.
I hope the editor had a good weekend and plenty of enjoyable moments with their games. You do wonderful work!