I have a loud gt exhaust on a beetle (choice due to money) but I have ear problems that cannot allow me to continue with it. I have a 1800cc, epc dual carb, and engle 110 cam build. I am looking for a much quieter rig. This video is great. Always a pleasure watching.
What brand? Where do i buy one? I live in the LA area (need a very very quiet muffler for my 69 bay, i hav a 1600 dual carb) my wife says its headache inducing now
Remember my old bug had an aftermarket exhaust, it was made out some really thick wall steel so eventually all the internals of the muffler departed leaving a straight through design. It was loud but never got stopped as it was just considered VWs were that way. Guy I worked with would get ticketed in his car but not me which annoyed him a bit. That all would have been the early/mid eighties.
I like the 36 hp sound with the hollow tips I'm building a 1300 dual port w/100 cam and dual carbs stock exhaust and hollow tips. great video thanks for posting this
I'm running one of those "Quiet packs". Quiet they are not! I modified it to a side-tuck and added a dual outlet with two motorcycle resonator mufflers peeking out from under the guard. It's now quiet enough to appease the neighbor but having the muffler at the side makes adjusting valves a pain.
I had a Monza, you called a 4 outlet muffler, on my 71 Beetle. I hated it! To drop the engine, that exhaust had to come off. I sold the car before I could change it. I wanted to cut it up in pieces!😁
Put a empi sidewinder 1 5/8" exaust on my 62 bug, 1835 duel 44's on the motor I'm just building this car with my son , it's really hard with all the different outlooks on what is right or wrong I guess we shall see great videos
I see your up on bugs, my son just picked up a 57 oval and now he's looking for parts, I'm looking for a popes nose and no one can tell me if the 57 has a different one than the 58 maybe you could help me? I want to help him piece it together, I would appreciate any input. Doug
Great informative video as usual. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. Normally 4 in exhaust are less restrictive and increase overall bhp by around 10% ?
Hey Mike you have a few different type of pipes there? On the Merger can You weld a 1 3/4 inch reverse turbo on it . You could tuck it under by angling it a little. I have a EMPI pipe on 1600 and it is under the fender and only the chrome pipe sticks out. Maybe I backed up on to a curb. Heck yeah I like a video on overhauling your old ( motor ).
@@Mikefngarage You got the thick wall 92s and a 4140 74mm crank ! It is not blown right, just worn right ! If so a overhaul mite pep it back on the road .
Great video! Landed here looking for some exhaust sounds. Got a ‘67 with a decently built 1968cc has a hide away exhaust but I just blew a hole in the muffler from a backfire. Now I’m looking to either replace with the same or try something new. This was much help!
I like the way your 36 horse sounds on the beetle. I put an abarth on my 59 and love the sound of that. Not sure if there is any power gain. I put it on the car before I got it running.
probably going to be a 85.5 piston with 74 drop in crank. little or no machine work. all done by hand. so you can build a 1700 without machining a case just buy a stroker crank do some hand work on the pistons and case. or buy the i beam rod set and have a 1699.
Well done a great topic to cover. The beetle at 15.00 sounds good. My single cab takes ages to start if its been sitting. After a long start from sitting i always put the battery on charge. Any thoughts on sealed vs unsealed batterys for our cars??
Excellent video Mike. Over the years I've pretty much had all of these exhausts. I agree that the merged twin thunderbird is one of the best off the shelf exhausts. The CSP python is the new kid on the block for all out performance but like custom exhausts is a big ticket item. Will be trying out a vintage speed exhaust on a T4 build soon, I will post how it goes. The struggle I find getting older is a good balance between noise and performance.
yea I really like quiet but it just wasnt going to work. AA performance merged sidewinder actually fits on a bus. Even though it does not spec to do so. Sacrifices no heater boxes. But we have an idea stay tuned.
Hey Mike, I’d love to see another engine build. I really enjoyed this last one. I know you cant try every exhaust known to man, but what are your thoughts on the Empi GT with the larger tips that come out in the stock Bug location? Especially as it would work with your current 2007cc.
Do you think heater boxes makes a difference at all? I just took mine off and put j tubes. I have a single empi quiet pack but never thought about restriction. I forgot what size motor I have. I wanna say 1653 or so. I have the larger slip in pistons. I also have the cb 044 heads and dual epc 34 empi carbs. What jets do you recommend for my carbs? Are the stock ones ok? Is my exhaust ok?
Great vid but I think that you are underselling the extractor system. While the stock muffler is well built it was not ideal for making power and was an obvious choke point. For many of us putting on an extractor was the first mod to be done to a motor because it was easy, effective, and safe. Extractors are also inexpensive.Treat an exhaust system like any other add-on to your motor. By itself, it won't probably add much power to an otherwise stock motor, but it can facilitate good performance if it is one upgraded component out of a few.And yes, build the stroker motor.
on a 1600 they did make more of a difference. on the smaller engines 40 and 36hp not so much. because the torque loss made the drivability worse IMO on the smaller engines.
The 1600 has a lot going for it. It is the largest type 1motor to come stock from VW, which makes it the latest standard as a motor. It is durable, versatile, and has a lot of potential. Parts for them are everywhere and they can prove to be cost-effective. I'm not ripping on the smaller motors here, but most of us VW owners have less to no experience with them. These smaller engines also had less to work with than the 1600, and hopping them up for more performance would be a more difficult proposition.
@@masbeetleboy yea for sure the 36hp engine to get performance out of it you need to spend 5 to 10 thousand dollars to make it run like a just barely hopped up 1600.
I have a 1641 with twin carb with this exhaust. Would a 1.5inch sidewinder be too large or would it be beneficial? Or maybe swap the empi muffler for a more free flowing muffler ?
Great vid mate, thanks for all the info! My partner has a 76 kombi with a stock 2.0L engine and she wants to make it quieter, especially for those long highway drives that seem to cause us to temporarily lose our hearing lol. What would you recommend?
Im not sure what exhaust is on it. make sure the tail pipe goes at least to the edge of the bumper. If it has a down pipe style sidewinder I added a tail pipe to mine and it is much easier on the ears.
never used one on a 1200. stock exhaust works the best so far. the better ones you loose too much torque. gain HP but they dont like RPM so the HP is unusable.
@Mikefngarage I just tried fitting the empi 1200 exhaust on the car (64 bug). It wasn't even close. It looked like it would fit but nothing really lined up with the stock exhaust (was a little wide). I'm taking your advice and getting another stock muffler. Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge!
I have a problem with my exhaust on my '61 Mango Bus. When I got my bus back the exhaust tip ends in front of the rear bumper. Half of the tip is clear and the other half is covered by the rear bumper. The exhaust is blowing in the bumper and turning my bumper black in that spot. It is lowered and I do not know what to do to correct this problem. It's a new motor and bigger than the original. I hate this exhaust. It is so loud I think. It kind of sounds like those exhaust systems kids put on their Honda civics...cans I think they call them.
What bugs me with exhausts... is that I have to pay up for stainless, knowing it is a little more expensive material but we all get taken for a ride by manufacturers triple the cost. My bug is my daily so its a necessary evil. If I was a weekend/Sunday driver the cheap option would be just fine.
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I have a loud gt exhaust on a beetle (choice due to money) but I have ear problems that cannot allow me to continue with it. I have a 1800cc, epc dual carb, and engle 110 cam build. I am looking for a much quieter rig. This video is great. Always a pleasure watching.
Comments please...... like or dislike the ones you agree with or disagree. thanks for watching.
i have a single quite pack on my 1600, split bus. i love it.
What brand? Where do i buy one? I live in the LA area (need a very very quiet muffler for my 69 bay, i hav a 1600 dual carb) my wife says its headache inducing now
Remember my old bug had an aftermarket exhaust, it was made out some really thick wall steel so eventually all the internals of the muffler departed leaving a straight through design. It was loud but never got stopped as it was just considered VWs were that way. Guy I worked with would get ticketed in his car but not me which annoyed him a bit. That all would have been the early/mid eighties.
yeah i want see another motor build thank you i find your video informative
We might be putting a few different combinations so that you guys can kind of figure out what you want to do on yours
I really like the way that engine sounds. It sounds really powerful
I like the 36 hp sound with the hollow tips I'm building a 1300 dual port w/100 cam and dual carbs stock exhaust and hollow tips. great video thanks for posting this
would help out with that build. Withe the cam it will be asking for a little larger exhaust but not too big. Full extractor might be turbulent.
thanks
I'm running one of those "Quiet packs". Quiet they are not! I modified it to a side-tuck and added a dual outlet with two motorcycle resonator mufflers peeking out from under the guard. It's now quiet enough to appease the neighbor but having the muffler at the side makes adjusting valves a pain.
Lot's of good info and GREAT sounds 👍
one I made a while ago late at night and I didnt start it got lots of comments about that so I made this one.
I had a Monza, you called a 4 outlet muffler, on my 71 Beetle. I hated it! To drop the engine, that exhaust had to come off. I sold the car before I could change it. I wanted to cut it up in pieces!😁
Put a empi sidewinder 1 5/8" exaust on my 62 bug, 1835 duel 44's on the motor I'm just building this car with my son , it's really hard with all the different outlooks on what is right or wrong I guess we shall see great videos
with that it will be a top end motor the 1.5 inch one would work better.
I see your up on bugs, my son just picked up a 57 oval and now he's looking for parts, I'm looking for a popes nose and no one can tell me if the 57 has a different one than the 58 maybe you could help me? I want to help him piece it together, I would appreciate any input. Doug
Great informative video as usual. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience. Normally 4 in exhaust are less restrictive and increase overall bhp by around 10% ?
Hey Mike you have a few different type of pipes there? On the Merger can You weld a 1 3/4 inch reverse turbo on it . You could tuck it under by angling it a little. I have a EMPI pipe on 1600 and it is under the fender and only the chrome pipe sticks out. Maybe I backed up on to a curb. Heck yeah I like a video on overhauling your old ( motor ).
The stock motor build is that what you want about the 1968 stroker 74 Buy 92
@@Mikefngarage You got the thick wall 92s and a 4140 74mm crank ! It is not blown right, just worn right ! If so a overhaul mite pep it back on the road .
Yes please to the 1968 build 😁👍
I'd still love a full brake down on how to on welding them exhaust flanges on.
hopefully on one in the future. pretty self explanatory when you buy the kit. I have done them right in the car.
@@Mikefngarage i have the flanges, but really curious on how you go about your messurments , cutting and welding. I want to do it right the first time
Great video! Landed here looking for some exhaust sounds. Got a ‘67 with a decently built 1968cc has a hide away exhaust but I just blew a hole in the muffler from a backfire. Now I’m looking to either replace with the same or try something new. This was much help!
Sounds great!
I like the way your 36 horse sounds on the beetle. I put an abarth on my 59 and love the sound of that. Not sure if there is any power gain. I put it on the car before I got it running.
I think it does have power gain only at mid to high RPM because this car love freeway hills like no other 36 or 40.
Mike you are a bundle of information hanks so much !
Would love to see a 1641 dual carb build
probably going to be a 85.5 piston with 74 drop in crank. little or no machine work. all done by hand. so you can build a 1700 without machining a case just buy a stroker crank do some hand work on the pistons and case. or buy the i beam rod set and have a 1699.
Yeah It would be cool to see a video on that build
Well done a great topic to cover. The beetle at 15.00 sounds good. My single cab takes ages to start if its been sitting. After a long start from sitting i always put the battery on charge. Any thoughts on sealed vs unsealed batterys for our cars??
Excellent exhaust video! Helpful Info!
I really like that sound It's music in my ears🎵
Thanks for the info, can you do a video on wheel and tire sizes for bus and bugs
Yeah I can do that at all goes in conjunction with transmission gears though
Whata beautiful buses!! 😍👍🏻
Cheers from Mexico!
Excellent video Mike.
Over the years I've pretty much had all of these exhausts.
I agree that the merged twin thunderbird is one of the best off the shelf exhausts.
The CSP python is the new kid on the block for all out performance but like custom exhausts is a big ticket item.
Will be trying out a vintage speed exhaust on a T4 build soon, I will post how it goes.
The struggle I find getting older is a good balance between noise and performance.
yea I really like quiet but it just wasnt going to work. AA performance merged sidewinder actually fits on a bus. Even though it does not spec to do so. Sacrifices no heater boxes. But we have an idea stay tuned.
👍 great info on exhaust systems.
Good Info Mike Ive been looking into getting a New exaust
What about a stinger? Its a great exhaust if you want to get hassled by the cops, and annoy your neighbors
dont you just love those guys. OMG. 4 in the morning off to a show
Pretty informative video,man! Thanks! 🤘
Hey Mike, I’d love to see another engine build. I really enjoyed this last one.
I know you cant try every exhaust known to man, but what are your thoughts on the Empi GT with the larger tips that come out in the stock Bug location? Especially as it would work with your current 2007cc.
It's too small for that very restricted but some of those ROK I think they have two different ones one is really bad in one isn't too bad
Do you think heater boxes makes a difference at all? I just took mine off and put j tubes. I have a single empi quiet pack but never thought about restriction. I forgot what size motor I have. I wanna say 1653 or so. I have the larger slip in pistons. I also have the cb 044 heads and dual epc 34 empi carbs. What jets do you recommend for my carbs? Are the stock ones ok? Is my exhaust ok?
Great vid but I think that you are underselling the extractor system. While the stock muffler is well built it was not ideal for making power and was an obvious choke point. For many of us putting on an extractor was the first mod to be done to a motor because it was easy, effective, and safe. Extractors are also inexpensive.Treat an exhaust system like any other add-on to your motor. By itself, it won't probably add much power to an otherwise stock motor, but it can facilitate good performance if it is one upgraded component out of a few.And yes, build the stroker motor.
on a 1600 they did make more of a difference. on the smaller engines 40 and 36hp not so much. because the torque loss made the drivability worse IMO on the smaller engines.
The 1600 has a lot going for it. It is the largest type 1motor to come stock from VW, which makes it the latest standard as a motor. It is durable, versatile, and has a lot of potential. Parts for them are everywhere and they can prove to be cost-effective. I'm not ripping on the smaller motors here, but most of us VW owners have less to no experience with them. These smaller engines also had less to work with than the 1600, and hopping them up for more performance would be a more difficult proposition.
@@masbeetleboy yea for sure the 36hp engine to get performance out of it you need to spend 5 to 10 thousand dollars to make it run like a just barely hopped up 1600.
I was just watching the 1970 movie LeMans. Any exhaust system to make my 36horse sound like a flat 12 in that 917?
I use to have the stock with the single exhaust going out the driver side under the bumper
I have a 1641 with twin carb with this exhaust. Would a 1.5inch sidewinder be too large or would it be beneficial? Or maybe swap the empi muffler for a more free flowing muffler ?
What do you recommend for an 1835 with stock heads Engle 110 cam, dual 40 Weber’s . Merged 1 1/2 or the 1 1 3/8 standard header as we see on your 1835
thanks for sharing your knowlage.
My pleasure!
I'm no expert but is the belt a bit loose on the first car (orange)? Otherwise a nice explanation of the exhaust system
Yeah it comes loose pretty quickly I might end up changing it to a serpentine
Great vid mate, thanks for all the info!
My partner has a 76 kombi with a stock 2.0L engine and she wants to make it quieter, especially for those long highway drives that seem to cause us to temporarily lose our hearing lol. What would you recommend?
Im not sure what exhaust is on it. make sure the tail pipe goes at least to the edge of the bumper. If it has a down pipe style sidewinder I added a tail pipe to mine and it is much easier on the ears.
whast the loudest exhuast that will fit out of stock aprons on a 1970 beetle 1600
Great info !!
Any exhaust recommendations for a stock freshly rebuilt 1200 CC single port?
I love the thunder I wish I can use and my 40hp
little too big for a 40 would only give power at top end. Torque loss.
@@Mikefngarage i have a friend he got a engine for sale how a now is bigger than my for 100 hundreds dollars?
might want to take a chance on it for that price.
Not everyone wants a 1600 motor, I like the 1500- why no mention of this?
Need the quietest muffler for my 69 baywindow...before my wife divorces me. I have 1600 dual carb single port engine.
Have you had an experience with the empi 40 hp 1200 2 tip exhaust?
never used one on a 1200. stock exhaust works the best so far. the better ones you loose too much torque. gain HP but they dont like RPM so the HP is unusable.
@Mikefngarage I just tried fitting the empi 1200 exhaust on the car (64 bug). It wasn't even close. It looked like it would fit but nothing really lined up with the stock exhaust (was a little wide). I'm taking your advice and getting another stock muffler.
Thanks for sharing all of your knowledge!
I have a problem with my exhaust on my '61 Mango Bus. When I got my bus back the exhaust tip ends in front of the rear bumper. Half of the tip is clear and the other half is covered by the rear bumper. The exhaust is blowing in the bumper and turning my bumper black in that spot. It is lowered and I do not know what to do to correct this problem. It's a new motor and bigger than the original. I hate this exhaust. It is so loud I think. It kind of sounds like those exhaust systems kids put on their Honda civics...cans I think they call them.
I put an extended tip on my new merged system to get the exhaust past the rear bumper. had to weld it on. OMG it is so much quieter.
🤙 Yewwww
VAN!!!???? 🙅♂️😡😱 Van..... ha!!! BUS! 👍✅
What bugs me with exhausts...
is that I have to pay up for stainless, knowing it is a little more expensive material but we all get taken for a ride by manufacturers triple the cost.
My bug is my daily so its a necessary evil. If I was a weekend/Sunday driver the cheap option would be just fine.
Just my dumb opinion. That first exhaust sounds way too restricted. It sounds like when you stuff a banana in the tailpipe.
1 × C13-3766 - EMPI BRAND - LARGE 2-TIP GT EXHAUST - BEETLE/GHIA WITH 40 HP 1200CC ENGINE (DOES NOT FIT 1600CC
most of the empi exhausts dont fit very well. I have to modify every one I buy But they are the only ones affordable.