SpaceX Finally Addresses Important Starship Catch Problem!

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  • Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
  • Final Starship launch prep! SpaceX Starship booster ready to land on the tower? Next-gen tower building draws to an end? Is the next-gen Starship complete? Will Blue Origin’s New Glenn ever launch? We do the analysis! Tiny space startup Sierra is attempting to buy big player United Launch Alliance?
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Комментарии • 846

  • @Whataboutit
    @Whataboutit  23 дня назад +76

    Ship 26’s wild story seems to continue! What do you think? What’s next for Ship 26?

    • @John_GuyLOL
      @John_GuyLOL 23 дня назад +5

      Ship 26 is by far the weirdest Starship

    • @AndersJB-se8ff
      @AndersJB-se8ff 23 дня назад +4

      @@Whataboutit place a momentum wheel on chopstick arm, and eliminate the arms momentum..

    • @Ultrex_Idk
      @Ultrex_Idk 23 дня назад +5

      Turn it into a water tank for workers to drink from

    • @Free_Born
      @Free_Born 23 дня назад +3

      There was talk of moving a starship horizontally maybe that's S26 next test?

    • @ferruzzio
      @ferruzzio 23 дня назад +3

      What if Ship 26 will be modified to support the first batch of Raptor 3 engines for..... testing?

  • @sehajpalsphone
    @sehajpalsphone 23 дня назад +226

    Felix, I don't comment much but genuinely if you see this, everytime I see a post from you, I light up dude you make me so happy with your continuous uploads. Can't wait to hear some space x news. Thanks mate from Australia ❤

    • @EmmanuelTisheff
      @EmmanuelTisheff 23 дня назад

      You light up and I turn on 💀

    • @ProfessorJayTee
      @ProfessorJayTee 23 дня назад +7

      @@Yeah-right-2024 Learn some tact, sometime.

    • @Yeah-right-2024
      @Yeah-right-2024 23 дня назад

      @@ProfessorJayTee Just call it like I see it. sorry if your "feelings" were hurt.

    • @oldtimer2662
      @oldtimer2662 23 дня назад +3

      We are Borg

    • @dawsonfowler6663
      @dawsonfowler6663 23 дня назад +5

      ​@Yeah-right-2024 learn to enjoy and care about people.
      I hope that whatever has you feeling like you need to drag others down gets better. ❤

  • @matraxialartemis1674
    @matraxialartemis1674 23 дня назад +122

    The more I watch testing for the booster catch, the more nervous I become that it'll be a RUD but I'm in for it!

    • @TJ-W
      @TJ-W 23 дня назад +16

      If anything isn’t right, they’ll redirect it back out to sea. But anything is possible. Can’t wait!

    • @df1ned
      @df1ned 23 дня назад +13

      I mean, I assume thats where the second tower will come in - as a backup after they more than likely partially blow up the first one, so hopefully it wont slow them too much even if they don't nail it first try

    • @GrigoriZhukov
      @GrigoriZhukov 23 дня назад

      Maybe if for no other reason than the better they, that means errors are more destructive.

    • @df1ned
      @df1ned 23 дня назад +10

      @@TJ-W Yeah, if anything isn't right with the ship itself. And that will only work up to around the start of the landing burn. Also while youre hundreds of meters up, it might be kinda hard to know if you are on target to within like a meter. So yeah, but there is still plenty of stuff to go wrong. Like just landing a rocket is trivial compared to this. And even that was thought near-impossible until they did it. And even that took them many many attempts

    • @dawsonfowler6663
      @dawsonfowler6663 23 дня назад +2

      @@matraxialartemis1674 I feel the same

  • @JimmyRussell-c2s
    @JimmyRussell-c2s 23 дня назад +13

    Another use for retired Starships are for the international space station to farm food in. 30 ft diameter,plants don't get dizzy spinning

  • @skierpage
    @skierpage 22 дня назад +12

    1:44 " the chopstick arms are equipped with these small cushioning rails." Nothing is small on Starship. Those rails are as tall as a person!

  • @TheBlade996
    @TheBlade996 22 дня назад +5

    2:43 Thanks for the Darmok callout, IMO one of the very best Star Trek Next Generation episodes! ❤

    • @vincentlenart1697
      @vincentlenart1697 21 день назад +1

      @@TheBlade996 haha. I missed that! Thank you for pointing it out.

  • @nathanmays7926
    @nathanmays7926 23 дня назад +32

    Sierra should just wait a few years. Once Starship and New Glenn are cruising the cosmos, ULA will be willing to sell for $1.

    • @eamonia
      @eamonia 22 дня назад +4

      Starship and _who?_ Oh, yeah... We'll see.

    • @dphuntsman
      @dphuntsman 22 дня назад +4

      Problem is, neither company is moving at the speed we need space business to move at. And I’m not sure merging two slow moving space businesses will yield one faster, more nimble space business. I’d love to be proved wrong, for Earth’s sake. - Dave Huntsman

    • @Autoxdriver
      @Autoxdriver 22 дня назад

      Bezos is all about LEO, he just wants to build big space stations. I guess you could call that "cruzing the cosmos". Actually a smart move on his part, he doesn't have to compete directly with Starship.

    • @sebastjanbrezovnik5250
      @sebastjanbrezovnik5250 22 дня назад +3

      There is one major reason why Starship industry moves faster than any other...
      ...they invested in the right base resource at the heart of the company....smart and motivated people!
      You achieve speed with the right employees mindset and knowledge pool.
      Pair that then with financial background and you see the bright future.

    • @straighttalk2069
      @straighttalk2069 22 дня назад +1

      @@sebastjanbrezovnik5250 I believe Elon time is the only reason SpaceX moves so quickly.

  • @SirCharles12357
    @SirCharles12357 23 дня назад +30

    Ship 26: Future Orbital Tanker Tester?

    • @ZanTeth55
      @ZanTeth55 20 дней назад

      hmmm.... sounds plausible... or maybe tester for the Moon mission?

  • @jamesmelandry3595
    @jamesmelandry3595 23 дня назад +22

    “ You just can’t trust ship 26” priceless!

    • @ericpiper9002
      @ericpiper9002 21 день назад

      @@jamesmelandry3595 Yeah that made me laugh out loud! Lol

  • @koffeekage
    @koffeekage 23 дня назад +75

    Ship 33 getting raptor 3s would be optimally memetic

    • @Shadow_banned_by_YouTube
      @Shadow_banned_by_YouTube 23 дня назад +5

      Ship 69 then?

    • @metmans
      @metmans 23 дня назад

      ​@@Shadow_banned_by_RUclips?

    • @kstricl
      @kstricl 23 дня назад +4

      @@Shadow_banned_by_RUclips That's when Elon goes up.

    • @Shadow_banned_by_YouTube
      @Shadow_banned_by_YouTube 23 дня назад +2

      @@kstricl 420 also

    • @kstricl
      @kstricl 22 дня назад

      @@Shadow_banned_by_RUclips that's when he returns to his home planet ;)

  • @NeroontheGoon
    @NeroontheGoon 22 дня назад +4

    Nice to see the story of Darmok and Gillard is alive and kicking. “Temba, with arms wide open!”

  • @dennisleas8996
    @dennisleas8996 22 дня назад +25

    Good episode, Felix. Good variety of topics.
    Two comments, however:
    1. ULA did not develop the Atlas nor the Delta rockets. Atlas came from Lockheed-Martin but was born with General Dynamics (Convair division). Delta came from Boeing through a long lineage from Douglas Aircraft's Thor missile. Vulcan Centaur is the first rocket developed by ULA themselves.
    2. I think most commenters miss the purpose of catching SH by the tower. (Hint: It's to quickly launch it, again.) Even the Wikipedia article on 'SpaceX Starship' mostly misses the point that the Starship system includes the launch mount and the integration tower. The ground facilities *cannot* be separated from the flight article in order to achieve the long-term goals of SpaceX.
    For rapid and complete reuse, the launch 'pad' must support:
    a. maintenance and between-flight inspection/refurbishment;
    b. final assembly (stacking) and disassembly;
    c. testing (spin prime/static fire/etc.);
    d. launch
    e. landing method that permits rapid reuse (within hours as a goal)
    Landing anywhere else, say a landing pad, means that you will need a crane, a transport stand, an SPMT and a lot of transit time to put that SH back on the launch mount. (I suppose a landing pad beside the tower, within reach of the chopsticks, might work, but would be suboptimal.)

    • @thecanadianlanguageschooln8828
      @thecanadianlanguageschooln8828 22 дня назад +4

      It’s pretty certain that each booster won’t be able to just re-fly without some checking/certification as a minimum, which means rapid launches are more about the OLM and GSE to stay fully functional for multiple launches before switching to the other OLM while the first undergoes some maintenance (both will likely be operational at the same time generally, but with staggered down times).
      So as for the boosters themselves, assuming a 3 day refurbishment process and a launch cadence of say 4 launches per day, they would need only around 12 functional boosters, with another 1-3 in the mix in case of technical difficulties.
      That means that catching the booster on the OLM really serves very little value if it doesn’t go back on the OLM immediately and puts the GSE at unnecessary risk.
      In my opinion, they’ll figure this out eventually and the landing/catching process will change/simplify.

    • @dethangelishere394
      @dethangelishere394 22 дня назад +4

      wow you made some very nice points. thank you for the comment. i dont know about anyone else, but i learned from your comments. it gives me a new perspective on the starship and the goals of SpaceX.

    • @matthewb.1947
      @matthewb.1947 22 дня назад +2

      I would also say the increased payload is right up there in value as well

    • @ulbuilder
      @ulbuilder 22 дня назад +4

      @thecanadianlanguageschooln8828 catching the booster reduces the booster weight by removing landing legs and the additional structural reinforcements needed to handle landing in its own legs. That means more pounds to orbit for the same amount of fuel. If they can control the booster accurately enough to catch it with the chop sticks, I can't think of any better way to land the thing.
      Also, the goal is to eventually reuse these with little too no refurbishment between fights. Treat them more like how we treat airliners today. If they reach that, then the chop sticks make even more sense. They could have starships loaded ready to fly, booster lands, placed on OLM, starship stacked, both refueled, and then launched. Same booster launched more than once in a single day..... would be quite amazing if they can accomplish that.

    • @marcwolf60
      @marcwolf60 21 день назад

      One of the main advantages of a Methane Oxygene system is the lack of residule carbonisation residue.
      Kerosene no matter how pure will always produce soot - meaning over time this buildup will have to be cleaned off.
      Starship will not have this issue and will have a faster turn around.

  • @jim6584
    @jim6584 22 дня назад +9

    I am betting SX will need to add some additional catch pins to Super Heavy and to curve the chop sticks to increase the likely hood of catching the SH. I also think they need some teeth on the chop sticks to lock the pins into groves so the whole thing doesn't slip off.
    I know "The best part is No Part" but common sense says the margin for catching it is down to a few inches, that isn't large enough. Put 3 pins on each side and curve the chop sticks so that catching 2 pins at once becomes the most likely results. Especially in these early tests.
    If it lands with the required accuracy they can always remove the additional pins in the future. A big crash landing might delay the next test flight by 6-12 months

    • @dannylee6632
      @dannylee6632 22 дня назад +2

      The margin is tight but I think you're missing the scale on this. Those catch points are a lot bigger than a few inches. They could also be planning to vary how the chopsticks close on the fly so that they center on the rocket. Straight arms actually allow much more leeway in where the booster can land. Having the pins correctly indexed for alignment should be the easy part compared to the rest.

  • @ironspider9280
    @ironspider9280 23 дня назад +9

    1:35 can we just take a moment to appreciate how cool this was

  • @sjgerber
    @sjgerber 23 дня назад +17

    Hi Felix, love your channel. One thing, Big Blue is the nickname for IBM, and has been for decades.

    • @oldtimer2662
      @oldtimer2662 23 дня назад +4

      Open the pad door HAL 🤔

    • @andrew1717xx
      @andrew1717xx 23 дня назад +2

      Imagine have a sliding padio door that could have voice activation. 😅

    • @oldtimer2662
      @oldtimer2662 23 дня назад +4

      @@andrew1717xx lol Siri I said open that pad bay door 😂

    • @mikegardner107
      @mikegardner107 23 дня назад

      @@oldtimer2662My name is ALEXA! (Door lock Clicks). Enjoy your walk… I’m sorry, the patio door lock seems to be inoperable…

  • @adak2050
    @adak2050 22 дня назад +20

    Felix, time to put Starship talk on hold and focus on Monday's Polaris Dawn launch. Short of catching the booster with the tower, this is the most important mission Space X will undertake this year. Humans going the furthest from Earth in 50 years, testing Space X's brand new EVA suits, first private space walk, lot's cool research. This isn't just going up to the ISS or testing new rockets, but humanity finally venturing out and it needs your kind of love...as in a whole episode dedicated to explaining it..

    • @Mega747400
      @Mega747400 22 дня назад

      we have been to the moon there going up there to prove nothing just a billionaire wasting money just like titan

    • @lowellbrown1122
      @lowellbrown1122 22 дня назад +1

      Lol. Mmmmmmmm.

  • @chiaricharlie6608
    @chiaricharlie6608 23 дня назад +12

    Thunder Clap, love it. Thanks Felix!

  • @myyklmax
    @myyklmax 23 дня назад +28

    The 2nd Launch Tower has it top set on.

    • @ScottRagland
      @ScottRagland 23 дня назад

      thx, fren!
      any notion how long ago it went on, fren; or how long it had been there when you mentioned it here? *pantpant*... ;-)

    • @husker91
      @husker91 21 день назад +1

      Always downvote members. Plus this dude is a definite pedo.... ^^^

  • @AdvantestInc
    @AdvantestInc 23 дня назад +3

    The catch test for Booster 14.1 is a brilliant example of SpaceX pushing the boundaries of what's possible in rocket recovery. Can't wait to see the results!

  • @banjoreno
    @banjoreno 22 дня назад +5

    The chop sticks are not giving me much confidence but really looking forward to seeing the catch attempt

  • @aaron5303
    @aaron5303 22 дня назад +3

    I'm glad I'm not the only one who was thinking of 26 being used to test Raptor 3's when I saw its engines removed.

  • @mevalemadre6223
    @mevalemadre6223 23 дня назад +9

    I always wonder about those canard fins on BO, Neutron, et. al. The Russians came up with grid fins because they did the best job as far a control authority at supersonic and hypersonic speeds, and, despite their appearance, didn't offer much drag penalty vs. regular fins. SpaceX likely went with them for these utilitarian reasons. SpaceX (Elon musk in one of the EA interviews) noted that it was hard to get enough control authority in pitch to get the stage nose down and maintain aim even with the grid fins. In fact, that's why SH's fins aren't 90 degrees apart... they were moved to improve control authority in pitch, and Musk has said he'll fly with three fins... the two for pitch and one for yaw. Also remember that when Falcon Heavy launched, there was discussion about decreased grid fin effectiveness on the side boosters because instead of having a long trailing interstage structure, FH side boosters have a short ogive nose cone, and that difference resulted in more disturbed flow, less clean air flow over the grid fins. I think SpaceX even contemplated flying larger grid fins on the side boosters to maintain control.
    So, all that said, I look at BO and RL canard fins and have to wonder if they will have sufficient control authority, or if they will largely be enveloped in the boundary layer flow coming up the rocket body and not really have the clean flow to work with? On top of that, BO New Glenn flies with those strakes, which are great to add cross range, but I have to believe those strakes are going to seriously mess up the airflow behind them and negatively affect the control authority of the two most critical fins (pitch) on the rocket. For Neutron, they have a design that looks a lot like a Falcon Heavy side booster, and we already know that "nosecone just behind fin" arrangement negatively impacts control authority of those fins. I wish them all luck... time will tell.

    • @dj_sp3rmcount
      @dj_sp3rmcount 22 дня назад

      @@mevalemadre6223 grid fins are actually the most perfect type for the job, as they produce higher drag at subsonic and transonic speeds, such that they act as air brakes, and as you said at supersonic and hypersonic speeds they are the most effective form of control surface, the Russians not only used them with the N1 rocket, but also on the R-77 air-to-air missile

  • @erickessler6094
    @erickessler6094 23 дня назад +9

    Haha Felix,
    Go Ship 26 as test bed for the new Raptor 3 engines! 🎉😎🇺🇲

  • @shootloadrepeat
    @shootloadrepeat 23 дня назад +18

    The Tim Dodd tour changed my mind about BE's progress. It is much further along than I thought, and the hardware is at a surprising maturity level. Bezos also seemed to be extremely in-touch with every small detail and system of it, so resigning as Amazon CEO seems to have given him a lot more time to devote to the program.

    • @dphuntsman
      @dphuntsman 22 дня назад +2

      Yeah; interesting thing is, Elon told him to do that, years before he actually did it. - Dave Huntsman

    • @qwerty112311
      @qwerty112311 22 дня назад +3

      A choreographed tour dispelled all your notions about the state of the program? Seriously?

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 22 дня назад +1

      They *are* much further along than they'd ever previously revealed... though that's not saying much, since prior to Tim's video, the factory could have been an empty shell for all we knew. But even allowing that the video was filmed a couple of months before it was released, it's very hard to see them being ready to launch before the end of the year... and they're supposed to be launching Escapade in just a month or so during the Mars transfer window.

    • @jessiejanson1528
      @jessiejanson1528 22 дня назад

      That's a lot of risk for a first launch.

    • @simongeard4824
      @simongeard4824 22 дня назад

      @@jessiejanson1528 Eh, it's a low-budget mission... that's why they're flying on this New Glenn debut flight, because their budget didn't extend to a dedicated launch vehicle.
      But it *will* be embarrassing if Blue fails to launch their first real payload because they weren't ready in time to hit the launch window...

  • @BxVelocity
    @BxVelocity 22 дня назад +1

    Just loved " Mechazilla, his arms wide" with the Darmok character...

  • @raytribble8075
    @raytribble8075 23 дня назад +11

    Ship 26 will be rigged up with twin Warp Nacelles and rebranded as the Phoenix.
    ULA has done some remarkable (albeit over priced by SpaceX standards) launch vehicles over its history. But for someone to buy this company and its architecture at this phase of orbital launch vehicle development may be a tough sell. Last I heard no one is interested in purchasing a “Rotary Phone” in today’s market. That being said, someone may have an idea how to bring it into the modern age.

    • @MrMgrPL
      @MrMgrPL 23 дня назад +1

      Elon Musk is Zefram Concrete?

    • @mikegardner107
      @mikegardner107 23 дня назад +1

      Will “RAPTOR” eventually become the name for Impulse Engines?

    • @HankScally
      @HankScally 22 дня назад +1

      I had always wondered why Elon named this rocket 'Starship' (I had always liked 'Interplanetary Transport System'...more descriptive of its function) . I can only assume that Elon has some engineers locked up in a back room somewhere with Dr. Acubierre developing his warp drive. Ship 26 could become the 'Phoenix'.

    • @raytribble8075
      @raytribble8075 22 дня назад

      @@mikegardner107 it very well could be…

    • @raytribble8075
      @raytribble8075 22 дня назад +1

      @@MrMgrPL there are so many visionaries that deserve their own segment in what we call “rocketry” and Elon will be known for he and his teams part of this journey.

  • @TheZoltan-42
    @TheZoltan-42 22 дня назад +2

    Ship 26 and hopper are real bros by now. 🤜🤛

  • @centrocristianovidaabundan5971
    @centrocristianovidaabundan5971 22 дня назад +1

    Felix, you about killed me...
    "Temba, his arms wide."
    Funniest thing I've seen this week.

  • @tinkercavedweller
    @tinkercavedweller 23 дня назад +2

    nice the TNG Darmok reference! I recently rewatched the episode!👍😂❤

  • @benphartine
    @benphartine 22 дня назад +2

    Felix, please do a video on how the rocket motors are mounted onto the rockets and explain how the motors don't crush themselves with do much thrust especially the Bell after the nozzle. Thank you

  • @theharbinger2573
    @theharbinger2573 23 дня назад +1

    Proper Vulcan greeting requires the thumb to be extended away from the palm.

  • @BackUp-z4t
    @BackUp-z4t 23 дня назад +5

    Thanks again for good reporting.

  • @eamonia
    @eamonia 22 дня назад +1

    I still can't believe the R3s. My first thought was, "Hey, I like the black and white paint." Haha! Then I realized that it was _running_ and that cryogenic temperatures were responsible for the white and still can't believe that they're not only less complex but lighter _and_ more powerful. Like, what!?

  • @Saiphes
    @Saiphes 23 дня назад +4

    That tower slaps

  • @clay-tw5gc
    @clay-tw5gc 23 дня назад +3

    S26 will most likely be the test vehicle for Rapter 3. But we all know that S26 is the most power hungry Starship. When it is done with Rapter 3, its going to say, "That was nothing, give me Rapter 4!"

    • @menotyou1234
      @menotyou1234 23 дня назад

      I think it could eventually be an orbital tanker that stays in orbit, after it static fires the Raptor v3 engine layout design.

    • @clay-tw5gc
      @clay-tw5gc 23 дня назад +1

      @@menotyou1234 S26 will still want a Rapter 4 when it becomes a tanker.

    • @clay-tw5gc
      @clay-tw5gc 21 день назад

      Perhaps. But then we all know what is coming next, Rapter 5.

  • @alanm8932
    @alanm8932 22 дня назад

    14:36 Tim's video - _"watch it when you're done with this episode."_
    Well, you can't get much nicer than that!
    Well done Felix 😊

  • @paulcarpenter999
    @paulcarpenter999 23 дня назад +1

    Ship 26 is what they called a "Battleship Test Article" in the Apollo days - an over-engineered ground test piece of hardware.

  • @jayseven6089
    @jayseven6089 23 дня назад +2

    3:05 Mrs Schlang approves of this 😉. Sorry, I had to. Great video as always! Much excite for flight 5!

  • @BusstterNutt
    @BusstterNutt 23 дня назад +3

    Thank you for all the hard work in making these excellent videos.

  • @jxjbbbingv5781
    @jxjbbbingv5781 20 дней назад +1

    He edited 0:01 before it said ''This is crazy'' now it says ''This is nuts''

  • @chronus4421
    @chronus4421 23 дня назад +3

    I agree! Section Seven-of-Nine certainly is stacked!

  • @JamesWitte
    @JamesWitte 23 дня назад +2

    Your background music starts with a very outer wilds vibe. love it

  • @mr.zyplexer6983
    @mr.zyplexer6983 23 дня назад +1

    I really hope that Vulcan salute was a joke 😂.

  • @moparpelican340
    @moparpelican340 21 день назад

    Great job Felix. Love your channel. I live only 10 miles from Starbase. Every static fire, launch and sonic boom we all feel around here as well as shaking the houses!!!!

  • @ThomasTomiczek
    @ThomasTomiczek 23 дня назад +2

    Btw., the dampening rails are more like shock absorbers ;) I Wonder whether the whole arms will also move downward. This is SO crazy.

  • @admarsandbeyond
    @admarsandbeyond 23 дня назад +2

    New Glenn was officially announced and revealed in 2016 but BO had been working on it since at least 2010 (along with the BE4 that would propel it). When they revealed their biconic orbital capsule in 2012 they said they would be flying it on Atlas for it's first flights until their (then unnamed, later called New Glenn) reusable heavy launcher was completed. They even presented some renders with a booster with canard wings.

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 22 дня назад +1

      For reference: SpaceX has been talking about a 100+t to LEO vehicle since 2005, before they had even launched Falcon 1 (though it was called BFR back then and underwent many design and name changes between 2005 and the Block 2 Starship being developed right now)

    • @admarsandbeyond
      @admarsandbeyond 22 дня назад

      @@plainText384 Paper concepts and vague ideas are not development. If they were then SLS started development in the late 80s when the first concept of a Shuttle derived LV was proposed. Spacex has been talking about a big launcher since it's inception, that doesn't mean they were actively developing one since 2002. Starship begun development officially when it settled to a methalox Raptor powered stainless steel LV in 2019 and they started making proof of concept hardware and prototypes.
      BO has been actively working on a heavy reusable launcher (called NGlenn in 2016) and its engines "a couple years" before the announcement of their crew capsule in 2012 (which was partially funded by NASA with the intention to fly on NG after the first flights). They even considered NewSheppard as a proof of concept prototype to test propulsive landing (they later decided to make a business out of it)

    • @plainText384
      @plainText384 22 дня назад +1

      @admarsandbeyond Not all Shuttle derived launch vehicles are superheavy lift vehicles designed to support crewed missions to the moon and beyond. But yes, you absolutely should count Constellation towards SLS development.
      No, Starship did not begin development when they settled on Raptor and Steel in 2019, and no, it wasn't all paper concepts and vague ideas before that. Before raptor, they were working on Merlin 2, and before steel, they were developing carbon composite tanks. And it wasn't just concepts and paper, they initially built the BFTS test stand at McGregor for Merlin 2, and they built and tested carbon composite tanks as well.

    • @admarsandbeyond
      @admarsandbeyond 22 дня назад

      @@plainText384 So the nearly identical to the SLS NLS (National Launch System, 1991), a superheavy LV with a Shuttle derived main tank as its core stage, 4 RS25s and 2 Shuttle SRBs doesn't count because it didn't have exactly the same mission as the SLS (which arguably it does as both are nothing but jobs programs), but Constellation (which had as a mission to go to an asteroid) counts. You can have your opinion about what rocket development is, but that's not the definition given by space agencies and organizations. Officially SLS development began in 2011 when they started to design actual hardware and test it.
      Merlin 2, was just a concept (a bigger Merlin, and BFTS was built and used for Merlin testing for F9) that never went anywhere, just like the huge hydrolox raptor, Falcon 5, BFS, ITS, the carbon fiber tanks etc. All concepts and some proof of concept test hardware.

  • @rs4race
    @rs4race 23 дня назад +1

    Wow. I wonder what the landing alignment tolerance is. Seems like the rotational alignment would be pretty tight.

  • @billreal76
    @billreal76 22 дня назад

    WOW ... That was a lot to put together! Thanks, Felix and the WAI Team!

  • @PHDiaz-vv7yo
    @PHDiaz-vv7yo 22 дня назад

    3 mins in- and genuinely the most funnest episode so far. From Darmok to Felix getting caught by Mechazilla
    Ladies and Gentlemen- we have entered the world of the surreal

  • @WorkerDroid
    @WorkerDroid 22 дня назад +1

    I think S26 has a future…tanker, orbiting platform, fuel transfer testing, fuel temp management tests, perhaps even a lunar flight test vehicle. It’s never coming back to Earth, but if it’s a good chassis, put it to work. Perhaps a lunar lander mock-up. Or passenger version mock-up.
    I think SpaceX is heavily into industrial testing right now, and they will certainly need to develop refuelling, habitat and lunar mission versions. I’m hopeful 26 gets a launch someday.

  • @user-sf7lv4jm4c
    @user-sf7lv4jm4c 23 дня назад +2

    Blue origin not delivering isn’t a joke. It’s just a simple fact. Unfortunately

  • @Adetriuss
    @Adetriuss 22 дня назад

    Felix! Your video quality is astonishing! Tnx for your amazing job! Greetings from Sardinia 🎉

  • @rockyo59
    @rockyo59 20 дней назад +1

    The Vulcan salute the thumb is supposed to be extended

  • @scruffisme
    @scruffisme 23 дня назад

    I've watched a lot of space discussion videos over the past few years, but I've found that I look forward to WHAT ABOUT IT updates the most.
    Thanks for the great content.

  • @ricardiagnostics
    @ricardiagnostics 22 дня назад

    Thanks for the update, Felix, and thank you for the whole Wai Team

  • @kneekoo
    @kneekoo 23 дня назад +2

    12:38 Oh, dear... the second BE4 has only been delivered on July 9th 2024?! 13 years in development and it looks like Clusteraptor v1.

  • @mikebrant192
    @mikebrant192 22 дня назад

    Felix, your staff is getting awesome graphics. Nice work!

  • @keenanmatthews1208
    @keenanmatthews1208 22 дня назад

    One thing to look at for the ship being re-tiled is added cameras. You might be able to go through old photos. I believe they wanted to add more cameras, and you might be able to spot them adding some wiring.

  • @FSK1138
    @FSK1138 21 день назад +1

    2:43 MechaZilla his arms open wide 🤓🖖

  • @hansclijsters3042
    @hansclijsters3042 23 дня назад +2

    Great video!

  • @SiyabulelaMbolekwa
    @SiyabulelaMbolekwa 23 дня назад +3

    Hi Felix😊

  • @whaletune
    @whaletune 22 дня назад

    You surprised me! That was a great chopping arms effect you had! Out of the blue!

  • @simongeard4824
    @simongeard4824 22 дня назад

    "Blue was an influential player in the early 2000's with New Shepard" - not quite, since New Shepard first flew in 2015. You're probably thinking of the Goddard tech demonstrator which made a number of test flights around 2007. And that *was* pretty cool at the time - rocket-powered vertical launch, hover and controlled descent - but it was hardly setting altitude records at just 100m or so.

  • @civwar64bob77
    @civwar64bob77 22 дня назад +1

    The Hulk clap clip gave me a huge laugh today! Thanks!!

  • @tomwithuhn9472
    @tomwithuhn9472 21 день назад

    You are a great content host. Thanks for what you do.

  • @danbrees3117
    @danbrees3117 23 дня назад +1

    Are there really only 2 catch fins? Why not make it 6 evenly spaced around the booster so that the whole thing doesn't fail if it happens to rotate a small amount as it descends? I know they have thrusters to adjust the rotation, but extra catch pins seem like a small investment for extra assurance.

    • @Mentaculus42
      @Mentaculus42 23 дня назад +2

      How about 12 pins or even better, a catch ring?

    • @Silva0101
      @Silva0101 23 дня назад +1

      They are heavy duty as they need to hold the entire booster, adding more would be adding alot more weight to the overall build.

    • @Mentaculus42
      @Mentaculus42 23 дня назад +1

      @@Silva0101
      But would it? The forces have to be distributed to the complete structure INTERNALLY. That is actually where most of the structural weight is, not just in the “pin component”. To say one way or the other requires a lot of information that is only known to spacex. The natural progression of a design using the musk methodology is to start at the minimum and iterate from there. If the initial concept was to look at it in a more distributed perspective then a clearer answer could be provided. It is not necessary to provide a complete ring but rather two ledges that span 30 degrees each. As it stands now with two pins, the “indexing accuracy” is critical. It may work on the average but will it always work every time?

    • @davidliefrink9818
      @davidliefrink9818 23 дня назад +1

      @@Mentaculus42 same thought I had just a ring so the orientation on that axes doesnt matter (or at least hardly does)

  • @davidpotter8297
    @davidpotter8297 22 дня назад +1

    The Earth > Mars Hohmann transfer window runs from mid-October to early November 2024. If New Glenn slips more than a few weeks, they can't launch EscaPade for another 26 months. It still needs a static fire and full WDR, with a slippery hydrogen upper stage. I wish them luck.

  • @shellac23
    @shellac23 22 дня назад

    Thank you for all your updates dude.

  • @helifanodobezanozi7689
    @helifanodobezanozi7689 22 дня назад

    Great job WAI!

  • @cacogenicist
    @cacogenicist 23 дня назад +1

    There's no way New Glenn launches before 2025. 😊

  • @evantspurrell
    @evantspurrell 22 дня назад

    those catch arms are amazing

  • @philippostiglione2011
    @philippostiglione2011 22 дня назад

    New Glen needs to launch soon. Just to prove it really exists

  • @JasonBlack66
    @JasonBlack66 22 дня назад

    Canard Deflection at any speed creates a hell of a lot more turbulence behind them (relative to airflow) than "Grid Fins". Why does that even matter? Because the differences in air pressure in those wake and turbulence zones can act against the side of the rocket. Thats why all steering surfaces are usually at the aft end or down wind end of the vehicle. this way any turbulence will have an effect on the rocket for less time. Grid fins just produce less Turbulence as well as the Eddie currents are small enough that they quickly dissipate or move apart and again have even less impact on the side of the vehicle.

  • @davidgermain
    @davidgermain 22 дня назад

    mechazilla, his arms wide. very cool. one of the best episodes in TNG

  • @JonnoPlays
    @JonnoPlays 22 дня назад +1

    Display for sure.

  • @menotyou1234
    @menotyou1234 23 дня назад +1

    Felix, you left out Rocket Labs new Neutron Rocket..!!!
    p.s. - I luv the subliminal Startrek screen shots..!
    "Megazilla, his arms wide open..!"

    • @jamesdewhalley2665
      @jamesdewhalley2665 22 дня назад

      Literally only you and I seem to have picked up on that.

  • @max8286
    @max8286 21 день назад

    I would use the new tower for the catch attempt to minimize risk for the OLM platform...

  • @TrautBox
    @TrautBox 23 дня назад +3

    SpaceX could buy ULA to gain valuable buildings in Florida and also gain the contracts from NASA to continue funding Starship. I believe Falcon Heavy can do most of their current missions anyway.

    • @admarsandbeyond
      @admarsandbeyond 23 дня назад

      Spacex doesn't care about buildings or legacy obsolete hardware. Also the USG would never allow an outsider like Spacex to become a monopoly for gov launches (ULA being a monopoly for a decade, fine). Lastly Falcon Heavy can do everything Vulcan can and much more, otherwise they wouldn't be able to bid for NSSL2.

  • @bergendeklerk3376
    @bergendeklerk3376 22 дня назад

    Let's make it 3 million

  • @koiyujo1543
    @koiyujo1543 22 дня назад +1

    bro I want those models in the back ground!

  • @ForestvilleOppa
    @ForestvilleOppa 22 дня назад

    @2:42 I don't know if I've previously asked this before on this channel, but it's a two-point catch system. How will they stop the booster from swinging, hopefully not into the tower as it shuts down? Is that plan to squeeze the booster with those bumpers? Oh boy.

  • @shaluzer
    @shaluzer 22 дня назад

    haha the chopsticks closing around Felix's head :D

  • @johnmortimer7782
    @johnmortimer7782 21 день назад

    Why have only 2 small catch pins at this stage? Any error in the orientation and they are going to miss. Why not have a partial rim around to allow for any error at this stage? Got a better chance at not destroying the pad. Once the accuracy of landing has been proved you can then go back to pins later.

  • @ricchamen6304
    @ricchamen6304 22 дня назад +1

    Great content and nice show Felix.

  • @8ballfpv
    @8ballfpv 22 дня назад

    its fascinating just how far in front SpaceX is. Just looking at the engines alone, pumping them out and seeing rows of them sat on stands in a warehouse, then you see something like BO and just 5 engines, all carefully protected etc...

  • @jeffingram8279
    @jeffingram8279 22 дня назад

    12:39 it is hard to call them a competitor when they haven’t even put a rocket into orbit. I mean younger smaller companies have had more progress than Little Blue.

  • @GabrielVelasco
    @GabrielVelasco 22 дня назад

    "Big Blue" has been a nickname for IBM for many decades. Calling Blue Origin "Blue" is fine, but calling them "Big Blue" might be confusing.

  • @MatsukawaZaraki
    @MatsukawaZaraki 23 дня назад

    I want to know what the gap in ship 33 is and why nobody is talking about it?? It looks like a whole small section is missing when it gets picked up in the mega bay

  • @up4open
    @up4open 21 день назад +1

    what happens if the rocket is twisted in the circumference? Just slips right through or lands on the grid-wings.

  • @mathman1475
    @mathman1475 22 дня назад

    They need to raise the can with a crane and lower it at the same rate descent as the booster and catch it in a dynamic test to see what will happen.

  • @PlanXV
    @PlanXV 20 дней назад +1

    Sierra space is a big company

  • @carlschubert8466
    @carlschubert8466 22 дня назад

    Got to think. They must be really confident in catching accuracy when the new arms for tower B are much shorter.

  • @aguer007
    @aguer007 22 дня назад

    Add eyes to the Starships on the Rocket Garden !!

  • @midac7069
    @midac7069 22 дня назад

    Is tower B being built to do the first catch? So as keep a fully functioning launch tower safe?

  • @liquidbraino
    @liquidbraino 22 дня назад

    Next week they're going to do a "powder slap" test.

  • @mr.transposon5017
    @mr.transposon5017 20 дней назад

    Lets go, tower section 20! 😅

  • @TimothyLipinski
    @TimothyLipinski 22 дня назад

    Great Video ! Nice to see six (6) leg on a BIG Rocket ! The Delta Clipper was built with four legs and by about flight number twelve some one failed to connect a landing leg and the test rocket tipped over ! Like to see the SpaceX Starship upper stage with legs to land soon on earth, the moon of earth and soon maybe on Mars also ! tjl

  • @marcusoutdoors4999
    @marcusoutdoors4999 23 дня назад

    An excellent episode. The next slight will be extremely interesting, both to see the catch (fingers crossed) and also to see how the Starship copes with re-entry with its improved heat tiles. The flight 4 Starship landed 6km off target probably as a result of a fried wing, but hopefully the 2nd starship will be 100% on target. I hope by flight 6 we’ll see some payload in the form of Starlink satellites being released.

  • @NormReitzel
    @NormReitzel 22 дня назад

    Starting to call this hypothetical booster, "When Glen?"

  • @professor-viewsalot
    @professor-viewsalot 23 дня назад +1

    Great shout out to Tim.
    I have never before had cause to say anything good about Bezos or sue origin.
    Seeing Jeff himself opening up & taking a leaf out of Elon's book (and Peter Beck's too) and showing Tim around as if he ment it, was fantastic work by Tim (as we have learned to expect) and truely inspiring from Jeff.
    It seems as if Jeff suddenly leapt from being a stupid spoilt brat to being a sensible educated company CEO in 1 giant leap.
    I really hope that Jeff keeps up his new plesent personality, jeff having enough pride in his work to show it to Tim, is great for TEAM space.