Scenes and Sounds #1: The Canterbury Scene

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  • Опубликовано: 29 ноя 2024

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  • @hishammohamedzabri
    @hishammohamedzabri 2 года назад +1

    Brief round up of Canterbury scene. Keep up the good work.

  • @brunoghezzi4137
    @brunoghezzi4137 6 лет назад +1

    khristian,a very informative piece well enjoyed. but just to quibble in a minor way, the gong trilogy unofficially starts with camembert electrique, then officially, flying teapot, angel's egg and you. I've always thought it was a dingo virgin ironic joke (a trilogy of 4). shamal doesn't even have daevid allen on it and only guests hillage. and I think wyatt did play drums after his accident. anyway, I'm glad you included fish rising and the hatfields & caravan. btw, I saw caravan at the showground in sydney as part of a big show with free and deep purple headlining. honestly, I didn't get it at all cos everyone there wanted guitar heroics (in 1971), but these guys had saxes!!

  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 29 дней назад +1

    Too right about a huge number of Gong albums but in my opinion, only a few of quality where they kerb the silliness of pixies etc and write short , concise songs that have a more commercial appeal. Thus I always recommend that newbies listen to ‘ Angels Egg ‘ to begin with then ‘You ‘

  • @billpap382
    @billpap382 2 года назад +1

    Hey really great albums here! There's a missing link though, that should be listened by every Canterbury Scene's fan. Their name was Delivery, they made just one LP (1970) but I dare to say it's something really amazing. They changed their name shortly after this album to Hatfield and the North. Carol Grimes was a great-great singer and Lol Coxhill a phenomenal sax player.

    • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
      @andrewarthurmatthews6685 29 дней назад

      Yes for anyone serious about the CS the band ‘ Delivery ‘ were indeed a or the missing link .
      Containing all of the musicians that would become synonymous with this genre.

  • @fcamiola
    @fcamiola 3 года назад

    Outstanding video! Love your vinyl copies! Canterbury forever! Cheers

  • @bewareofthedig5388
    @bewareofthedig5388 3 года назад +1

    your video was very inspiring for me, so I made a french version ( copycat :-) ) on that scene i love so much for years

  • @TheRealFriar
    @TheRealFriar 8 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the rarer stuff. I missed them the first time around. I wondered where Mont Cambpell came from. Great bass work with National Health

  • @fishman5604
    @fishman5604 8 лет назад

    Some great classic albums you have shown. Thanks so much

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад +1

      +fish man
      Cheers for watching man!!
      Awesome.
      - K

  • @Paneeks1960
    @Paneeks1960 8 лет назад +1

    Hello again Khristian,
    I was happy that I knew a few of the albums that you showed. I do like the darker sound of Egg. You got it, world class musicians. I appreciated how you grouped the releases by years. I love Hillage's 'Fish Rising'. I was lucky to have adopted a beautiful first copy of it that was in a collection that I acquired last year. I found quite a few albums that I liked in this video. You are truly showing the richness of your collection. Definitely an essential video for anyone who likes or who is interested in the Canterbury sound and scene. Talk to you soon Khris~
    Rob/Boston

  • @TheRealFriar
    @TheRealFriar 8 лет назад +1

    Thanks. This is my favorite genre.

  • @gorvo31
    @gorvo31 8 лет назад +1

    Hi Khris, Great seeing you back on, and wonderful video! Have gotten into the scene in bits and pieces. Like Soft Machine, Wyatt, Gong, though am still woefully ignorant about much of the rest. Thanks much for sharing this, and looking very forward to more in the series. -Carm

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +Gorvo31
      Hey Carm ,
      Thanks heaps for taking the time to watch this one.
      These bands are the foundation for so much that came later, i felt a need to explore the scene a little deeper and share it.
      I'm looking forward to doing some more of these.
      Hope youre well.
      - K

  • @Paneeks1960
    @Paneeks1960 8 лет назад

    So good to see you back on this Friday evening Khristian. I am kicking back and enjoying this one from start to finish.
    Have a super weekend and I will be back for comment two later on~
    Rob/Boston

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад +1

      +Paneeks1960 {Rob/Boston}
      Gday Rob,
      Great to hear from you mate! And thanks heaps for tuning in. Hope you find something here that you like:-)
      Enjoy your weekend.
      -K

  • @johnra1394
    @johnra1394 8 лет назад

    Very educational for me. I've been really getting into this sound lately, but know very little about it. I'm ashamed to say that I have some of these albums, but never knew the connections between them. This video has really inspired me to learn more. Those guys were making some magic back then. Thanks again. Excellent video

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +johnra 1
      Hey man! Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment. I'm stoked you can get something out of it. This video only really scratches the surface. There are some amazing documentaries on this scene and books now written by these musicians (Robert Wyatts bio is awesome). Highly recommended. So much to discovery and explore. Its overwhelming!!
      Its such amazing and free thinking music!!!
      Cheers mate.
      - K

  • @MrTrendkill2
    @MrTrendkill2 8 лет назад

    Hey Khristian,
    love the video series idea,
    love, love, love the Canterbury prog scene, you have such clean amazing copies of most of these, I can never seem to find
    a copy that the cover isn't completely worn. Caravan has to be my personal favorite, still looking for the debut.
    Soft Machines 4, 5, 6, and 7 are also essential IMO, I need to get the first two yet.
    Anything Robert Wyatt was involved in, are must haves.
    Hatfield and the North, Gilgamesh, National Health, all essential.
    Syd Arthur is a fantastic new band, their newer LP is also great, also have a remix LP that is straight up fantastic!
    peace, Chris.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +MrTrendkill2
      Hey Chris, Thanks for watching and commenting man.
      Yes I agree with you. Caravan are my fav band in this style. Though Soft Machine are an essential band too. Youre right too, 4, 5, 6, and 7 all are worthy records and i could make a video solely on this pivotal band, but i thought i would just show the first ones which really helped to define the sound of the Canterbury Scene early on.
      That Syd Arthur record is a blast, but Ive not heard the newest one. Ill check it out though for sure.
      Thanks again mate.
      - K

  • @darkdubh
    @darkdubh 8 лет назад

    Hi Khristian,great video.Have a few bits and pieces of what you showed but mostly big wantlist items.I picked up The Rotters Club recently,great album.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад +1

      +darkdubh
      Hey Dave, 'Thanks mate.
      Yep these are getting pretty pricey nowadays, but i still think that some of them are 'essential listening' for you collection. Rotters Club is a great example of that.
      Nice score.
      - K

  • @Existmusiccloud
    @Existmusiccloud 8 лет назад

    Thanks for the video. I have been a prog rock fan since '76. Will check out some of these albums.

  • @Campo007
    @Campo007 8 лет назад

    Great video mate. Good have you posting again. Please make more. See you soon when we catch up.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +Anthony Camplone
      Cheers bud. It was actually yours that inspired me. I havent bought a record in ages either but thought, that shouldnt stop me making videos on the stuff i already have.
      Catch up soon for sure mate. Send us a date that suits and ill be there:-)
      - K

  • @Chris4127basket
    @Chris4127basket 8 лет назад

    Great video Khristian, thanks for sharing!I do have a few of these, would like to get more of course

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +Chris4127basket
      Cheers Chris. All worthy investments imo. But hey, we cant ever have 'all of the records'. :-)
      Cheers
      -K

  • @rogerschnack
    @rogerschnack 6 лет назад

    Absolutely amazing video.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  6 лет назад +1

      Thanks so much Roger!!

  • @tomminko
    @tomminko 8 лет назад

    Excellent Khristian! I am really getting into this whole scene alot more now so this video was really informative. I just picked up Third not long ago and love it! I just showed 2 Caravan records in my last video. I would love to grab their first few which you showed here. Never heard of Arzachel, will definitely be checking it out.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад +1

      +fxp ™
      Hey mate.
      Thanks for checking it out. Third is such a beautiful album. Good score. Caravan is the band that got me hooked on this sound. I really recommend 'If i could do it all over again..', 'Land of Grey and Pink' or 'For Girls who grow Plump in the Night'. They are my top three picks for this band.
      Arzachel is pretty wild as well.
      Take care mate.
      Happy hunting
      - K

    • @tomminko
      @tomminko 8 лет назад

      +Siren05 Thanks bro, I have For Girls Who..., very much dig it too. People have told me they don't dig it that much because they thought it strayed too far from their previous??? I like it alot man, I don't see it.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад +1

      Haha! I have had the same comments from people about that record too. In some ways, it is different to the others. But the sound is there and the songs are just so damn catchy:-) I love it.
      - K

  • @XjunkieNL
    @XjunkieNL 8 лет назад

    A different video. I like it very much. I learned a lot about this scene of which I know very little. Appreciate the time you put into this. I have started also a vinyl diet, but it is more month based. Every even month no records. Take care, Paul.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +X junkie NL
      Hey Paul,
      Thanks for taking the time to watch and comment man. I appreciate the words and im glad you found something here that you liked.
      Ah Yes! The vinyl diet....one every couple of months is a good plan. It means you can get to know the records more intimately too.
      Take care,
      -K

    • @XjunkieNL
      @XjunkieNL 8 лет назад

      +Siren05 You're right. A little more time to digest and appreciate records. It's almost too easy to learn and find new excellent albums. /Paul

  • @JonStraussArt-xw8pv
    @JonStraussArt-xw8pv 4 месяца назад

    thanks, it’s fascinating

  • @bencostello7317
    @bencostello7317 8 лет назад

    Hi K. Tremendous video. I just showed the other Matching Mole and Soft Machine 5, couple of days later than you. I just have Sort M 5-8 (ie "bundles"), don't know too much about 1 and 2. Am a big fan of Hillage, have a lot of his stuff. Agree with you re Fish Rising, completely. I love his "and not or" too, criminally underrated LP though I just have it on rip. Love that Isotope, I buy anything on the Gull label. I really hope your stuff arrives tomorrow, I'm getting worried.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      Hey Ben. Thanks for watching mate!! I don't have "am not or" but I should check it out. Big fan of Hillage. I reckon the Soft Machine stuff with Robert Wyatt is a bit less in line with what you'd be used to hearing on the later records. Totally different stuff. But well worth a look if for nothing else than the cultural significance. Don't worry about the parcel mate. Aussie post have put a 3 days per week delivery rule on, plus it's been Easter break which holds everything up a couple days. It should arrive soon. I'll let you know as soon as it comes in mate:-)
      Thanks again. I can't wait to open it. Haven't brought a new record into the house for over 2 months. :-) cheers
      - K

    • @bencostello7317
      @bencostello7317 8 лет назад

      His "and not or" is the instrumental twin brother to another release, can't recall the name. But "and not or" is just great. I think.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +Ben Costello awesome!! Will check it out. Thanks mate!

  • @SublimMedia
    @SublimMedia 8 лет назад +1

    Great video dude! Captures the Scene perfect!

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +SublimMedia
      Cheers man.
      Much appreciated!!
      - K

  • @Roddus1000
    @Roddus1000 8 лет назад

    Cool selection, have had quite a lot of those records in the past, love Gong, Soft machine, Caravan. I just recently scored an Egg lp and really like it, didn't know they were associated with the Canterbury scene. More to add to my wants list.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +Roddus1000
      Great stuff Roddus.
      Yep! its like a big jigsaw ad i love to learn how all the pieces fit together:-)
      Which Egg LP did you get?
      They are all great but i dont have The Civil Surface yet!
      - K

    • @Roddus1000
      @Roddus1000 8 лет назад

      +Siren05 The Polite Force. It is a fantastic record and I look forward to getting their other two albums. I picked it up for a reasonable price as it was a recent reissue from Deram Europe 2014 Unfortunately the other two haven't yet had a recent vinyl reissue and earlier issues are a bit too pricey, but they might show up in my local sometime.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      +Roddus1000
      Nice. In my opinion, its their finest record. Great score.
      -K

    • @Roddus1000
      @Roddus1000 8 лет назад

      +Siren05 It's interesting to note that Allmusic only rates it 3 stars but their other two records got 4 stars each.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад +1

      +Roddus1000
      Yeah! I guess thats whats cool about music. Everyone has different opinions about it. I haven't used AllMusic before, but Im wondering if its based on an average. I think all three albums are going to appeal to fans of this sound, but 'Polite Force' is just the one i go to more than the others. It seems a more concise package to my ears!

  • @4nhk066
    @4nhk066 8 лет назад +1

    thanks for the video pal, i learned something new today! :)

    • @05siren
      @05siren 8 лет назад

      Hey man, Thanks for the comment.
      Im so glad.
      Cheers
      K

  • @TheZeekgeek1
    @TheZeekgeek1 6 лет назад

    I just stumbled upon your channel, this was wonderful, thank you!

  • @russellrichardson554
    @russellrichardson554 5 лет назад +1

    Very nice to watch this video, thanks for that. I also think that more than the jazz (fusion) influence, there was an awful lot of English Folk song in the early training/playing/listening, too. The very strong and natural sounding melodic elements are what add a gentle sound to a genre (jazz fusion) that can become rather mechanical and brittle. Bands steeped in the blues get away with it; but this injection of English folk is a string and under-appreciated element. (look also at their contemporaries like John Martyn, Lindisfarne, Fairport Convention and Traffic for what was a very strong but slightly less commercial scene) A couple of questions, though: do you think the Virgin label had any influence on the scene's popularity (from 1972, obviously) as Branson seemingly decided to grab up all remaining bands without contracts (i.e. except Caravan!) as he was convinced it was the next big thing: Hatflelds; Gong; Mike Oldfield; Robert Wyatt.... and do you think that Henry Cow ought to be in there somewhere? I know they were a London/Cambridge band, but there's a lot of overlap socially and musically - and they were on the same batch of Virgin records, too.
    Other than that, thanks for including 'in' Steve Hillage and Khan - a great little record - and the late, great Kevin Ayers. Good listening!

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  5 лет назад

      Hey Russell. Sorry I'm only getting to this now. I totally forgot that I put this video up. Its been ages.
      In regards to your first question, I don't know much about the label itself. Branson obviously saw something there but in terms of the style and aesthetic, I reckon it came together much earlier than that for these guys.
      Henry Cow definitely fit in here and the only reason they were omitted is because I was planning to do a 'Rock in Opposition' video of the same nature at some point. Just never got around to it.
      Thanks heaps for watching..And for the nice comments man!

  • @Fan666Maiden
    @Fan666Maiden 7 лет назад +1

    Kudos dude! I've only just gotten into the genre after giving Gilgamesh a listen, and this video gives a great overview of the scene. I was already familiar with some of the proggier, more conspicuous groups like Egg and Caravan but finding all of these more obscure titles in one place along with your summmaries of the scene's various sounds really is a godsend! I'm going to have a lot of fun exploring the bands and albums you mentioned, and I'll probably be taking a look around on discogs sometime soon ;) Also, I was wondering what song is playing at around 3:00?

    • @martinrodzzz5329
      @martinrodzzz5329 3 года назад

      m.ruclips.net/video/o3qgJ883hss/видео.html

  • @drrhythmn
    @drrhythmn 8 лет назад

    Hi Khristian - thank you for pulling that together! I thought maybe Steve Hillage's L album should be in there -and some later 70's Camel that featured Richard Sinclair on vocals? Also to mention that the Canterbury scene is alive and kicking with other bands from the area including Lapis Lazuli, Bison Bonasas, Jouis, Rae and other acts signed to the Smugglers label in Deal. There is a secret(ish) festival that happens every year in early September in a secret location in a forest just outside Deal that celebrates this new scene and is an absolute revelation! www.smugglersrecords.com/the-smugglers-festival/

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад

      Hey, thanks for taking the time to watch and to comment. Hillages 'L' record is definitely a good one, I guess I just couldn't show all of them. It's funny you mentioned it as i do have quite a few Camel records, including Breathless which features Sinclair, but even though I pulled them out to compile this video, I actually didn't think their sound was a good representation of the style. However, it's always just a matter of taste and listeners discretion of course and your point is totally valid. Also, thanks for pointing out some of the more modern acts to me. Some of these I was unaware of and I had know idea about the 'Secret Festival'. Thanks again. Very cool info:-)
      -K

  • @johnbellamy3406
    @johnbellamy3406 8 лет назад

    Hi, this was a great video. I've always been curious about he Canterbury Scene but haven't delved into it yet...though I am very much into prog. The only LP I have that maybe connected to the scene is 'L' by Steve Hillage. I also have 'Rainbow Dome Musick' on CD.If you were going to recommend three LPs as a starting point what would you suggest? Cheers.

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  8 лет назад +1

      +John Bellamy
      Hey there John, 'Thanks heaps for taking the time to watch and to comment. Im glad you liked the vid.
      Steve Hillage is awesome i reckon and the two albums you mentioned are fantastic additions to any collections in my opinion.
      If i could recommend 3 LPs as an entry point, they would have to be:
      'Caravan - In The Land of Grey and Pink'
      'Soft Machine - Third'
      'Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom'
      All absolute masterpieces in their own way and all major landmarks for the scene.
      Id love to know what you think of them once you listen. I always get mixed reviews of these albums but they are among my favs so id love to hear your take.
      Cheers
      - K

  • @annejean-philippeotton8073
    @annejean-philippeotton8073 5 лет назад +1

    Four members in the Daevid Allen Trio ? Why not five or eight ? No guys, Ratledge was not with them then, Wyatt played with him in the Wilde Flowers and then, upon Allen's return (not from France, but from Spain, specifically the Balearic where he and Wyatt made many trips in the early 60s) they founded The Soft Machine along with Kevin Ayers.

    • @martinrodzzz5329
      @martinrodzzz5329 3 года назад

      It just happens that the only recording of the trio (recorded at a live appearance in 1963 and eventually released on CD by Voiceprint) features Mike Ratledge who was a guest performer at that particular gig:
      m.ruclips.net/video/aIVw4Bt96t4/видео.html
      I don't have a copy of this CD, but I found it on RUclips

    • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
      @andrewarthurmatthews6685 29 дней назад

      Yes if you intend to make a video explaining this genre then for crying out loud get your facts right!

  • @vikgrig8015
    @vikgrig8015 5 лет назад +1

    Would you consider Gentle Giant Canterbury Scene?

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  5 лет назад +1

      Hey Vik. Not really man, but its just a matter of opinion I guess.
      Though I dig Gentle Giant, I reckon they have a different aesthetic to the Canterbury acts. I would say GG probably fit more comfortably in with Genesis, Yes, and even King Crimson. More of a 'Symphonic Prog' thing as opposed to the Jazz/Psych/Prog fusion happening in the Canterbury acts. But hey, you could make an argument for their debut which is quite playful.

    • @vikgrig8015
      @vikgrig8015 5 лет назад +1

      Siren05 thanks for your response. Never thought you would answer. Don’t you make videos anymore?

    • @siren0547
      @siren0547  5 лет назад

      @@vikgrig8015 Haven't made a video in about 3 years. But I should get back into it:-) Thanks for watching mate!

    • @vikgrig8015
      @vikgrig8015 5 лет назад

      Siren05 thank you for making it

    • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
      @andrewarthurmatthews6685 29 дней назад

      Absolutely not !

  • @martinrodzzz5329
    @martinrodzzz5329 3 года назад

    Soft Machine (1968) wasn't given a British release, I don't think... Import only, from Europe or USA. I could be wrong.

    • @05siren
      @05siren 3 года назад

      I think you’re right! Just the US Press with the die-cut sleeve and the French press til a Dutch pressing in 69.

  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 29 дней назад

    Billie Holiday

  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 29 дней назад

    IMO, Hugh and Mike did the best thing possible in getting rid of Robert Wyatt as these guys were now wanting to move in different directions. Robert always fancied himself as a pop singer and the centre of attention; a performer and not just a musician. Hugh & Mike were very much the latter . If you watch footage of early Soft Machine you notice Robert always acting up .
    Also I understand that Mike & Hugh disliked Robert’s vocal style which I like when he was singing lyrics but not when he turns to his ‘ scat ‘ type vocalise .
    is so o

  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 29 дней назад

    Egg, Archazel and Khan are less known as they were not very good

  • @stealthracer
    @stealthracer 3 года назад

    I absolutely hate jazz -can anybody recommend some progressive albums with no jazz on them?

    • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
      @andrewarthurmatthews6685 29 дней назад

      Well Genesis and Yes are prime examples of British progressive rock music that don’t demonstrate any jazz influences.