I'm gonna go out on a whim an say, the Swag-axe didn't get robbed. I believe that, with the the Swag-axe chains moves an ... In my opinion, has one of the longest attack animations in 1 single animation ... It does take time for the Swag-axe to get it's flow going. I believe the team had it in the community of Swags to not want to reveal so much with how well the Swag-axe community is.
Could be just feel weird not to bring up charging up the sword at all when its been a big part of the weapon's identity since 5th gen. Like they could've spent 10 seconds with a little note "Charge up your sword for explosive follow ups on your attacks!"
What scares me a bit about the swaxe trailer is that like u said we never see axe mode get charged and we also dont see any of the morph slashes from rise. Rise did a great job at making the swaxe feel really fluid and incentivising the ‘switch’ part of the weapon. Not seeing them make a return feels like a clunkier version is coming back
on the flip side, there's a similar concern with gunlance mains and if it's pokeshell input timing being the same as rises or but world. (in world when you poke shell, it buffered the shell to come out quickly, but in rise if you press too soon it forces the shell to come out much later, making it almost frame perfect to play that playstyle normally making it less ideal with frame rate not steady and just more demanding for little reward and terrible value when getting it wrong) in the clip, it does poke poke shell shell, we don't know if they were mashing shell after the poke and it gave the forces input of rise or the person doing it just waited. morph movement was a lot of fun in base game rise, it existed in world but was definitely more limited so I would want rises version too if only they expanded on that kind concept for its 'defense' that people want it to have instead of just slap a counter for people who refuse to play it without one. would have given it an even more unique identity
Yea its so weird that its so short given that the weapon has many things to show. Like Hammer I don't mind being short because well its simple charge then bonk, but Switch Axe has charged states, switch mechanics, and explosions.
@@petercottantail7850 I have next to no experience with rise gunlance but wow that sounds frustrating as hell to try to do for not even that big of a payout. I definitely agree with u that swaxe shouldn’t have a counter. Most of the weapons we’ve seen that have counters are ones with shields and ls, but nothing about the switch axe really screams counter. I’d honestly hate it if it was a guard point since it’d take away some of charge blade’s identity. Hopefully both swaxe and gunlance get the features we want!
It does leave a lot of questions on the table. They look to be making axe mode less dull. So i hope we get thr phial dmg on axe mode. Overa showcase for swaxe was oddly short.
Switch Axe got its ankles broken by every other weapon furreal. Someone on reddit leaked the weapon descriptions and its been completely accurate so far but in my mind I just thought that they'd show more. The fact that they didn't show any morph attacks, zero sum, or the weapon's mechanics despite every other weapon was appalling. I was replied to a comment on my video that if the next weapon shows a lot and has the mechanics I'll backflip on my neck. Well...low and behold, bow just...christ almighty...
Damn 2 vids in a day 😆 The tracer feels like an evolution of Sunbreak Bow's Stake Thrust As for SwAxe, yeah it does feels like they hiding something haha
I'm pretty sure different people made different weapons' videos, and they didn't quite go into them all with the same plan. Like, CB got a full run of the basics, SA sped right through. Some weapons showed on screen info, others didn't. We got roughly minute plus videos, then a couple random 40ish second ones. Different showings of mechanics they're teasing, but not always the same ones in each video. Etc. ...Imma just look at it and say "oh well, Gamescom is next week" 😂 nobody shows the game info better than the players themselves
When they thrust the weapon and then the explosion, in MH3U and 4 that's basically all it has. It was done in Sword mode, maybe they moved it to axe mode.
Can't really compare to Charge Blade tho, Switch Axe is way more simple: Sword mode, Axe mode, switch between them, and Explosions. The charged sword happen naturally as you keep attacking. Here most newbie don't even know what can be charged in CB, and even overcharged it and keep bouncing
I do agree that CB is more complex, but SA is the only other weapon that morphs the way CB does. They are both the mighty morphing weapons, so of course they're going to be compared. They both are the only weapons that benefit from the skill Rapid Morph, so they have some similarities! Even though CB is more complicated I still feel like SA had more to show than what we got in this trailer. They gotta be hiding something from us!
The swaxe looks awesome I’ve never played bow also the someone saw that people were arguing what animal/skeleton the new swaxe armor could belong to and he combined them and made this cool monster I saw it on r/mhwilds
I'm a switch axe min I feel like they kept a lot out of the vid they didn't even touch on the sword gauge or amped state it's possible there is so much more to it that they didn't want to reveal yet
They could have spent like 10 seconds or so showing amped sword. Weird that they didn't. Bow was the favorite. Either they lied through their teeth or it was mistranslated when they said the most work went into hh and bowguns. Pretty sure they actually said hh and gunner weapons. Bow got the most work by far. I love the armor in this trailer. Some are saying it's from a raptor, saying it has wroggi vibes. Yeah, coatings use to be set and forget, as long as you have some left in your pouch you just turn them on once. Yeah 1 coating item per quiver and each of those is 8 shots, I hear you. The magnet arrow is dumb, now bow doesn't even have to aim anymore. Like it wasn't OP enough. Also it's funny that Capcom is anti mods but gave bow a tool so you don't have to aim. Bro, people are just going to give that to the bowguns and have it work when on the mount. Give it like a week, since it's an asset in the base game. That massive circle cross hair, with all Tri Force looking targets in it, is just stolen from Dragon's Dogma's magick archer. With both of these, isn't monster hunter not suppose to have magic? You decided that with MH1, we have the concept art before that decision to prove it.
@@jockpackage1770 I think they're trying to keep it a surprise that Amped Sword is Frontier Light Blade now. They showed it for like 2 seconds but if you go frame by frame you can still see it. And I don't think the tracer will end up being a 100% of the time thing. Seems like too long of a setup for temporary auto aim if you ask me. The players that can aim alright already probably won't use it unless the explosion is strong
@@0wonder and imagine having to do that after. Literally. Every. Combo. Shoot, Dragon Piercer technically deals really good damage but most Bow users skip it in favor of just shooting more because the saved damage over time is better
@@KPlaysHere like actually though, the tracer is honestly probably gonna be used for niche situations or really fast/flying monsters like nargacuga and rathalos
@@jockpackage1770shooting out a bunch of arrows isn’t magic if you’re complaining about that than complain about the dragon piercer being so much stronger because the hunter puts his heart into it
@@0wonder Those were 2 separate points, guess I didn't make that clear enough. The magic remark was about the tracer nonsense that makes arrows home in on the thing you plant in the monster.
@@jockpackage1770 yeah you didn’t make that clear enough in fact nothing about your statement even sort of implied you were talking about the tracer but anyway your acting like a homing arrow is absolutely insane when the charge blade literally shoots out energy because you hit the monster really hard and the switch axe does the same thing but with a straight up explosion but apparently that’s completely normal and not magical at all
@Jaycan I agree. But I do remember the easiest way to beat fatalis in worldborne was divine blessing secret and ZSD spam. So taking that away opens up the flood gates for new ways to play. Also forcing players to adapt and evolve
When did I say Swaxe was bad? I quite like Swaxe actually. I'm saying y'all got robbed since you got the shortest trailer and they didn't touch on charging up the sword to get phial explosion follow ups on your attacks. When charging up the sword has been a huge part of the weapon's identity since 5th gen.
@@drakeshotplays Oh for sure I meant they got robbed in the context of having such a short trailer and omitting core parts of their weapons identity. Not a mention of charging up the sword and no ZSD is wild when you could have added 15 seconds to the trailer and it still wouldn’t be the longest one.
I'm gonna go out on a whim an say, the Swag-axe didn't get robbed. I believe that, with the the Swag-axe chains moves an ... In my opinion, has one of the longest attack animations in 1 single animation ... It does take time for the Swag-axe to get it's flow going. I believe the team had it in the community of Swags to not want to reveal so much with how well the Swag-axe community is.
Could be just feel weird not to bring up charging up the sword at all when its been a big part of the weapon's identity since 5th gen. Like they could've spent 10 seconds with a little note "Charge up your sword for explosive follow ups on your attacks!"
You can go frame by frame by using < > on the keyboard after pausing. Good analysis!
Ohhh you mean comma and period. I'll use that for the final video for sure! Thanks for the VERY useful tip!
What scares me a bit about the swaxe trailer is that like u said we never see axe mode get charged and we also dont see any of the morph slashes from rise. Rise did a great job at making the swaxe feel really fluid and incentivising the ‘switch’ part of the weapon. Not seeing them make a return feels like a clunkier version is coming back
on the flip side, there's a similar concern with gunlance mains and if it's pokeshell input timing being the same as rises or but world.
(in world when you poke shell, it buffered the shell to come out quickly, but in rise if you press too soon it forces the shell to come out much later, making it almost frame perfect to play that playstyle normally making it less ideal with frame rate not steady and just more demanding for little reward and terrible value when getting it wrong)
in the clip, it does poke poke shell shell, we don't know if they were mashing shell after the poke and it gave the forces input of rise or the person doing it just waited.
morph movement was a lot of fun in base game rise, it existed in world but was definitely more limited so I would want rises version too
if only they expanded on that kind concept for its 'defense' that people want it to have instead of just slap a counter for people who refuse to play it without one.
would have given it an even more unique identity
Yea its so weird that its so short given that the weapon has many things to show. Like Hammer I don't mind being short because well its simple charge then bonk, but Switch Axe has charged states, switch mechanics, and explosions.
@@petercottantail7850 I have next to no experience with rise gunlance but wow that sounds frustrating as hell to try to do for not even that big of a payout. I definitely agree with u that swaxe shouldn’t have a counter. Most of the weapons we’ve seen that have counters are ones with shields and ls, but nothing about the switch axe really screams counter. I’d honestly hate it if it was a guard point since it’d take away some of charge blade’s identity. Hopefully both swaxe and gunlance get the features we want!
It does leave a lot of questions on the table.
They look to be making axe mode less dull. So i hope we get thr phial dmg on axe mode.
Overa showcase for swaxe was oddly short.
I feel like it was a good idea to take some of the power out of coatings and put it into the base weapon
I could see how that could make the weapon more fun to play for sure.
Switch Axe got its ankles broken by every other weapon furreal. Someone on reddit leaked the weapon descriptions and its been completely accurate so far but in my mind I just thought that they'd show more. The fact that they didn't show any morph attacks, zero sum, or the weapon's mechanics despite every other weapon was appalling. I was replied to a comment on my video that if the next weapon shows a lot and has the mechanics I'll backflip on my neck. Well...low and behold, bow just...christ almighty...
Lawd please don’t die doing this backflip!
Damn 2 vids in a day 😆
The tracer feels like an evolution of Sunbreak Bow's Stake Thrust
As for SwAxe, yeah it does feels like they hiding something haha
Oh yea we out here PUTTING IN WORK! My analytics says its paying off haha!
If you’ve played frontier and used SWaxe F, that final snippet of the trailer is so exciting. Looks like the light sword mode
Could be! Just so short that it’s hard to tell!
I'm pretty sure different people made different weapons' videos, and they didn't quite go into them all with the same plan.
Like, CB got a full run of the basics, SA sped right through. Some weapons showed on screen info, others didn't. We got roughly minute plus videos, then a couple random 40ish second ones. Different showings of mechanics they're teasing, but not always the same ones in each video. Etc.
...Imma just look at it and say "oh well, Gamescom is next week" 😂 nobody shows the game info better than the players themselves
Facts, we wont have to wait long for answers!
Actually crazy how now it almost looks like an entirely different weapon. These changes are wild in all the best ways
Oh yea its WILD... Monster Hunter Wilds I'm sorry I just had too lmao.
Bow is the damage king of all the trailers so far, doing over 400 damage while auto-locking on weak points is *Wild*
Even without context for what kind of damage numbers we can expect it sounds nuts already!
When they thrust the weapon and then the explosion, in MH3U and 4 that's basically all it has. It was done in Sword mode, maybe they moved it to axe mode.
Oh yea I know I played it back then. Maybe we are going back to that which would be... interesting to say the least.
No, it transformed into sword the moment she did the explosion
Can't really compare to Charge Blade tho, Switch Axe is way more simple: Sword mode, Axe mode, switch between them, and Explosions. The charged sword happen naturally as you keep attacking.
Here most newbie don't even know what can be charged in CB, and even overcharged it and keep bouncing
I do agree that CB is more complex, but SA is the only other weapon that morphs the way CB does. They are both the mighty morphing weapons, so of course they're going to be compared. They both are the only weapons that benefit from the skill Rapid Morph, so they have some similarities! Even though CB is more complicated I still feel like SA had more to show than what we got in this trailer. They gotta be hiding something from us!
Bro I was so dead set on SNS as a SNS main. I started back in Tri but BOW LOOKS INSANE 😳
Why not both my guy? Remember you can carry TWO weapons and swap whenever!
*sad but still excited Swaxemain noises*
You feel like there was more to see of your weapon huh? What we saw was great, but damn there was a lot missing!
Was that some Adapt Bow action there??? Or at very least, am adapt dodge! Adapt bow was mah SHIZZNIT!!!!
I know right! It does remind me of Dodgebolt. Bow is looking crazy good!
Hi Jaycan how are you doing today?
I'm pretty good! I appreciate you asking!
The swaxe looks awesome I’ve never played bow also the someone saw that people were arguing what animal/skeleton the new swaxe armor could belong to and he combined them and made this cool monster I saw it on r/mhwilds
What they showed does look pretty good, but damn they could've given Swaxe 10 more seconds easily given what they didn't talk about.
I'm a switch axe min I feel like they kept a lot out of the vid they didn't even touch on the sword gauge or amped state it's possible there is so much more to it that they didn't want to reveal yet
Right they held back A LOT! Its interesting to say the least!
it's insane how they give more things to the weapon with one of the highest dps while CB, Swaxe, and other weapons barely get anything
They gotta be holding back a lot or they reworked the math in such a way that it all ends up more balanced in the end.
@@Jaycan hopefully so! at the very least every weapon will get their own new sets of moves in the expansion eventually
They could have spent like 10 seconds or so showing amped sword. Weird that they didn't.
Bow was the favorite. Either they lied through their teeth or it was mistranslated when they said the most work went into hh and bowguns. Pretty sure they actually said hh and gunner weapons. Bow got the most work by far. I love the armor in this trailer. Some are saying it's from a raptor, saying it has wroggi vibes.
Yeah, coatings use to be set and forget, as long as you have some left in your pouch you just turn them on once. Yeah 1 coating item per quiver and each of those is 8 shots, I hear you.
The magnet arrow is dumb, now bow doesn't even have to aim anymore. Like it wasn't OP enough. Also it's funny that Capcom is anti mods but gave bow a tool so you don't have to aim. Bro, people are just going to give that to the bowguns and have it work when on the mount. Give it like a week, since it's an asset in the base game.
That massive circle cross hair, with all Tri Force looking targets in it, is just stolen from Dragon's Dogma's magick archer. With both of these, isn't monster hunter not suppose to have magic? You decided that with MH1, we have the concept art before that decision to prove it.
@@jockpackage1770 I think they're trying to keep it a surprise that Amped Sword is Frontier Light Blade now. They showed it for like 2 seconds but if you go frame by frame you can still see it.
And I don't think the tracer will end up being a 100% of the time thing. Seems like too long of a setup for temporary auto aim if you ask me. The players that can aim alright already probably won't use it unless the explosion is strong
Bro actin like the tracer didn’t explode after like 3 shots and a dragon piercer,That’s literally just a max charge combo that’s not even optimal
@@0wonder and imagine having to do that after. Literally. Every. Combo. Shoot, Dragon Piercer technically deals really good damage but most Bow users skip it in favor of just shooting more because the saved damage over time is better
@@KPlaysHere like actually though, the tracer is honestly probably gonna be used for niche situations or really fast/flying monsters like nargacuga and rathalos
@@0wonder that's exactly where my thoughts went. Tag something in a rage/flight mode that won't sit still, get some hits in till it calms tf down lol
soon it will be Dual Blades and Lance's turn
Yup yup we just got Lance as of me writing this comment so DBs is the final one!
My question for switch axe is where’s my zero sum???
Exactly or even just the charged sword mode?!
GU Adept dodge and a Dragon's Dogma Magick Archer focus attack..... Sword and Shield and Bow it is, see you day 1 on the field Jay.
Yeah that was just straight stolen from Dragon's Dogma 1. I guess they don't care about not giving us magic anymore.
Ayyyy not a bad combo! Especially with homing you'll be able to handle any situation thrown your way!
@@jockpackage1770shooting out a bunch of arrows isn’t magic if you’re complaining about that than complain about the dragon piercer being so much stronger because the hunter puts his heart into it
@@0wonder Those were 2 separate points, guess I didn't make that clear enough. The magic remark was about the tracer nonsense that makes arrows home in on the thing you plant in the monster.
@@jockpackage1770 yeah you didn’t make that clear enough in fact nothing about your statement even sort of implied you were talking about the tracer but anyway your acting like a homing arrow is absolutely insane when the charge blade literally shoots out energy because you hit the monster really hard and the switch axe does the same thing but with a straight up explosion but apparently that’s completely normal and not magical at all
Swaxe is going to be nuts but i believe they are hiding things on purpose
Gotta be because… too much was left on the table!
@Jaycan I also feel that way with other weapons but we'll have to see about the others during demo season 🤩🤩 CAN'T WAIT
I'm disappointed that the female version got a cool ass helmet for that new armor but the male didn't! It looks so sick!
It’s Malenia Blade of Miquella I swear. The cosplay’s are about to go crazy.
Most the community actually has the opposite idea. Finally the ladies get to have cool helmets.
@@TornaitSuperBird WE NEED EQUALITY! COOL HELMETS FOR ALL
Broooo magik archer in MH might grow the archer community 😂
Crazy to realize that’s what’s going on here! Capcom said oh yes baby they gonna love this and sprinkled some Dragonms Dogma on us in Monster Hunter!
@@Jaycan Hahaha fr fr it looks like sooo much fun!
I think they might have taken it away to do something new.. Cause it was a bit O.P
It’s possible! Idk about OP, but maybe too easy to use and exploit with the correct skills in your armor set.
@Jaycan I agree. But I do remember the easiest way to beat fatalis in worldborne was divine blessing secret and ZSD spam. So taking that away opens up the flood gates for new ways to play. Also forcing players to adapt and evolve
we all know who is ACTUALLY gonna get robbed... lance
They kinda got some stuff. It was a simple trailer though.
SWAG AXE is already the go to weapon for speedrunners for a reason its completely busted go watch @Jalbagel if you don't believe me.
When did I say Swaxe was bad? I quite like Swaxe actually. I'm saying y'all got robbed since you got the shortest trailer and they didn't touch on charging up the sword to get phial explosion follow ups on your attacks. When charging up the sword has been a huge part of the weapon's identity since 5th gen.
@@Jaycan you didn't say it was bad brother I'm just saying Sh*it they didn't get robbed lmao they have been eating good since MH Tri
@@drakeshotplays Oh for sure I meant they got robbed in the context of having such a short trailer and omitting core parts of their weapons identity. Not a mention of charging up the sword and no ZSD is wild when you could have added 15 seconds to the trailer and it still wouldn’t be the longest one.
@@Jaycan agree with that I agree with UnoHunter they definitely hiding a lot of things