This rly makes me realize how long it must have taken for humans to figure this out with no knowledge of it before hand. You’d likely use up your whole day, with extremely hard to find resources given the tools and labor required, then heat the metal up in various different ways, most ending up cracked into shards. Repeat for generations.
These questions fill my mind. How did they find you could get metal from rocks? What kinda of natural events would do that to give people the idea? Fascinating.
Ppl can be smart. From naked in the wilderness to obese living off the government looking at everyone else like they are dicks. Joke intended... we really have came a long way. It is amazing... although government checks don't help us.
@@Rosskles In their daily lives fire was needed for heating, cooking, etc. The simplest configuration is a "bonfire", to prevent the fire from expanding to the nearby area rocks are used, after that if the rock was cinnabar they would see molten metal in the floor, if it was a green rock they would see copper, if it was black and crumbly but shiny and heavy it would be either lead or tin. It was a matter of experimenting
@@corveramoenglish7275 Yeah, when you look at the daily requirements to live and thrive, these discoveries would happen naturally over many generations. Have you read Clan of the Cave Bears? Great fiction set in prehistoric times.
To ancient people copper is just another rock - they were already using rock tools so when they stumbled upon copper ore and tried to break it like they did with flint rocks it did something different - it was malleable - meaning they can bang it into a desired shape so it became an interesting rock to use - once they started bringing these rocks to double as fire walls they saw they would melt into interesting ways that made them even easier to shape - from there it was testing different things to make this new material stronger cause copper is not durable and they quickly found out when hunting using it - probably tried different things to make it more strong so you can kill a deer and use it again to hunt and finally mixed it with Tin rocks - finally you can cast the melted rocks into shape you want and it was strong enough to last for a many hunts - they discovered Bronze now they just needed to invent writing so they could write down the process !
Through RUclips and experimentation i learned myself to collect and refine clay and how to fire them into earthenware through a woodfired small kiln i build in my backyard. The results are still rough and succes not guaranteed but it's exiting to experience and see the whole process. Always looking out for a next project, very informative video! Love this kind of technology, it is seen as primitive by a lot but it's more complicated and hard work for all the senses than what people expect!
This is truly using historic methods. Too many videos make the claim but use modern tech. I will be trying this one day in the near future. I can get copper ore from the mines up North. We also have the advantage of being able to get pure native copper from the mine tailings piles in the Michigan UP.
Honestly very interesting to see someone do this by hand. Really gives insight on how much time people must have spent back then, just to make their tools they would do other work woth
I have fund such crusts from metal melting in the forests in Sweden (I always thought it was from working with Iron but this looks similar to me, because I don´t know). I can´t say how old but probably not that old, only 150 years old because it was in an area where I believe people cleared the forest very late. I have a lot of metals gathered and I was into clac some 20 years ago. This is intriguing.
Stop gathering them and contact your local archaeology expert. Sweden basically invented modern foundries. If you're finding slab in that abundance there's definitely something of archaeological worth in the area.
@@joshschneider9766 They are probably not more than 150 years old because the prehistoric guys were not in that region. It's very deep in until 5 years ago untouched land, but next time I will consider.
@@joshschneider9766 Archaeologists don't usually study modern peasants using very old technology because they lack new tools/knowledge. Where I live people still made bricks in the same way they did 2000 years ago into the late 1940s because it was economical.
We put them at the firestove in that house, but unfortunately I did not keep any. I might be able to find that place but the are would make me fedl sad. The forest has been destroyed by a forestal harvesting machine. On the other hand those machines are what makes the crusts re-emerge...
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0:03 - 0:23 What are the tools being used to crush malachite standing up? Love the video, so interesting to get a glimpse into different times and perspectives.
So much going to waste when it melts into the coal. but this is how it was before they got iron bowls to melt it inside i guess. Or they could somehow make a crucible bowl so the powder does not infuse with the coal but rather stays secluded in its own bowl.
@@Alvgaar there was other way by putting malachite powder in small cruicible,put it on charcoal. this way produced copper wont have direct contact with charcoal and wont melt together..
@@officinaferraria The quartz tube is multi-colored and comes with small black square-shaped cubes I think it is pyrite. Also, when I work on the black color of clay and roast it and make magnets, I filter the iron and melt it directly. It comes out with a white, heavy and solid alloy that does not react with acids, but is attracted to the magnet. So what is it?
@shysonoffical malachite was the easiest way for them to mine out of the rock or surface deposits , bit like iron it can be call bog iron but they found easier ways of getting iron copper can be found on occasions in raw form too copper is usually found with iron and gold deposits near so if they smelting gold they also get copper
@@stratiosastero6880 malachit wydobywano w Sudetach i Górach Świętokrzyskich, obecnie eksploatacji nie prowadzi się. Malachit można kupić na giełdach minerałów,
@@officinaferraria bo właśnie szukam sproszkowanego malachitu w celu przetopieniu na miedź (chcę zrobić miedziane śruby napędowe do modelu motorówki) niestety wszędzie sprzedają w kawałkach a młyna kulowego nie mam żeby go zetrzeć na drobny proszek) a topienie miedzi z całych kawałków malachitu to droga przez mękę.
I imagine the ore was probably used as a pigment but when some cloth burned they found out it turned red fire into green fire, and maybe put a bunch into a fire and found small copper prills that way maybe...
This process is very easy, nothing complex. There are places on the earth where malachite is very easy to find. We used malachite from Africa, we bought it.
Copper metal can be extracted from the open air roasting of a mixture of chalcopyrite and silica sand, as shown in the following reaction: chalcopyrite + oxygen + silica 2CuFeS₂ (s) + 5O₂ (g) + 2SiO₂ (s) ⇌ 2Cu (l) + 4SO₂ (g) + 2FeSiO₃ (l) Although if roasted partially it produces Cu₂S and FeO.
Cave men learned to make fire .they seen lighting start a fire or a volcano so then they found what they could use to ignite dry tender leaves grass sticks so on
@@officinaferraria By the way, great channel, Im impressed! Not everybody makes their own iron and steel nowadays. Its such a privilege to be able to watch you do it.
For a blue-collar worker or a common person during the Copper Age, a prized possession made of copper would likely have been a functional tool or weapon that could make their daily life easier or provide a means of protection. Some examples of valuable copper items for a common person might have included: Copper axe: A copper axe would have been more durable and efficient than a stone axe, making tasks like cutting wood or clearing land easier. Copper dagger or spearhead: A copper weapon would have provided better protection against enemies or wild animals. Copper jewelry: Copper was also used for decorative purposes, and a simple piece of copper jewelry, such as a bracelet or necklace, might have held symbolic or sentimental value. Copper pot or vessel: Copper was sometimes used to make cooking or storage vessels, which could have been considered valuable items for a common person. It's important to note that copper was still a relatively rare and valuable resource during the Copper Age, so even these basic tools and weapons would have been considered prized possessions for a blue-collar worker.
Dudes even got the double bellows right. Absolutely brilliant. Well done guys.
its the bellows. simple fuel? even wood will do it. oxygen( air volume) i wonder? got me thinkin.
you did Oetzi proud
This rly makes me realize how long it must have taken for humans to figure this out with no knowledge of it before hand. You’d likely use up your whole day, with extremely hard to find resources given the tools and labor required, then heat the metal up in various different ways, most ending up cracked into shards. Repeat for generations.
These questions fill my mind. How did they find you could get metal from rocks? What kinda of natural events would do that to give people the idea? Fascinating.
Ppl can be smart.
From naked in the wilderness to obese living off the government looking at everyone else like they are dicks.
Joke intended... we really have came a long way.
It is amazing... although government checks don't help us.
@@Rosskles In their daily lives fire was needed for heating, cooking, etc. The simplest configuration is a "bonfire", to prevent the fire from expanding to the nearby area rocks are used, after that if the rock was cinnabar they would see molten metal in the floor, if it was a green rock they would see copper, if it was black and crumbly but shiny and heavy it would be either lead or tin. It was a matter of experimenting
@@corveramoenglish7275 Yeah, when you look at the daily requirements to live and thrive, these discoveries would happen naturally over many generations. Have you read Clan of the Cave Bears? Great fiction set in prehistoric times.
To ancient people copper is just another rock - they were already using rock tools so when they stumbled upon copper ore and tried to break it like they did with flint rocks it did something different - it was malleable - meaning they can bang it into a desired shape so it became an interesting rock to use - once they started bringing these rocks to double as fire walls they saw they would melt into interesting ways that made them even easier to shape - from there it was testing different things to make this new material stronger cause copper is not durable and they quickly found out when hunting using it - probably tried different things to make it more strong so you can kill a deer and use it again to hunt and finally mixed it with Tin rocks - finally you can cast the melted rocks into shape you want and it was strong enough to last for a many hunts - they discovered Bronze now they just needed to invent writing so they could write down the process !
This is an awesome reconstruction! I really enjoyed the video. I'm an archaeology student and attempted a similar process lately :)
Hey man can i have your whatsapp number? I need a little help on copper purification
I learn too much chemistry from this video. Thank you uncle
Which chemical used to melt this coppor
Through RUclips and experimentation i learned myself to collect and refine clay and how to fire them into earthenware through a woodfired small kiln i build in my backyard. The results are still rough and succes not guaranteed but it's exiting to experience and see the whole process. Always looking out for a next project, very informative video! Love this kind of technology, it is seen as primitive by a lot but it's more complicated and hard work for all the senses than what people expect!
This is truly using historic methods. Too many videos make the claim but use modern tech. I will be trying this one day in the near future. I can get copper ore from the mines up North. We also have the advantage of being able to get pure native copper from the mine tailings piles in the Michigan UP.
everything is the heat. from a beautiful steel bloom? to a lead sinker. i friggin love this information.
Really interesting, love the expression on the face of the furnace, it’s, oh no, not again! Thanks mate, great content!
Honestly very interesting to see someone do this by hand. Really gives insight on how much time people must have spent back then, just to make their tools they would do other work woth
Ancient mysteries finely dissolve . A spoon 🥄 and fire resistant gloves 🧤 with this ancient magic will make me a God !
To be fair is a spoon really such a mystery, and gloves seem to be leather gloves like those for welding.
I'm more impressed by the tongs
I have fund such crusts from metal melting in the forests in Sweden (I always thought it was from working with Iron but this looks similar to me, because I don´t know). I can´t say how old but probably not that old, only 150 years old because it was in an area where I believe people cleared the forest very late. I have a lot of metals gathered and I was into clac some 20 years ago. This is intriguing.
Stop gathering them and contact your local archaeology expert. Sweden basically invented modern foundries. If you're finding slab in that abundance there's definitely something of archaeological worth in the area.
@@joshschneider9766 They are probably not more than 150 years old because the prehistoric guys were not in that region. It's very deep in until 5 years ago untouched land, but next time I will consider.
@@joshschneider9766 Archaeologists don't usually study modern peasants using very old technology because they lack new tools/knowledge. Where I live people still made bricks in the same way they did 2000 years ago into the late 1940s because it was economical.
Cool man
We put them at the firestove in that house, but unfortunately I did not keep any. I might be able to find that place but the are would make me fedl sad. The forest has been destroyed by a forestal harvesting machine. On the other hand those machines are what makes the crusts re-emerge...
Lovely 😍 copper is a brilliant material
I was studying about this today. Great video
Muszę ten materiał polecić wyznawcom Franca Zalewskiego, bo ten Pan "geolog" twierdzi, że miedź można pozyskać tylko przy udziale skomplikowanych procesów, np: elektroliza itp. współczesne technologie. Świetny materiał dzięki!
Wszystkie rewelacje tego pana to straszne bzdury.
Ancient people are intelligent and outstanding
Making Bloom copper. Very cool. Great pants also
Thanks for this video . The copper ore placed under the charcoal will get reduced by the CO (carbon monoxide) released by the charcoal to pure metal.?
Yes, CO and carbon (charcoal) are redutors.
But I'm sure they did not have welding gloves back then so how did they pick those modes up like that?
maybe they didn't, picking up of the furnace is not necessary to take copper out.
Animal hide? Hooked pots, are you so simple you can't imagine Anything?
That is really cool!
Great video!
What mineral was the original ore?
malachite
how did ancient people make crucibles? was clay pottery enough?
I think they just discovered metal smelting by accidentally leaving rocks with tin or copper ore nearby campfires
clay mixed with charcoal or just fire clay
0:03 - 0:23 What are the tools being used to crush malachite standing up? Love the video, so interesting to get a glimpse into different times and perspectives.
small anvil mounted to the wooden stick
@@officinaferraria Thanks for the update!
Beautiful, is that malachite as the ore?
Yes, it is malachite.
So much going to waste when it melts into the coal. but this is how it was before they got iron bowls to melt it inside i guess. Or they could somehow make a crucible bowl so the powder does not infuse with the coal but rather stays secluded in its own bowl.
malachite can have up to 70% copper
@@Alvgaar there was other way by putting malachite powder in small cruicible,put it on charcoal. this way produced copper wont have direct contact with charcoal and wont melt together..
melting chunky ore gets a better result !
how long does it take for the copper to become liquid copper in the crucible?
10 minutes.
@@officinaferraria ok, thanx for the help.
How much copper can be made from 500 grams of mold sir?
What happens to the rest of the rock after the ore is melted? Is there slag? Do some ores produce more slag than others?
slag and gases.
What kind of cup is he putting into the furnace?
it is fireclay crucible
Nice 6th century welding gloves
leather gloves existed in the 6th century too bro relax
I want to eliminate sulfur, but I did not find a solution. Could you please tell me a method?
What ore do you use?
@@officinaferraria The quartz tube is multi-colored and comes with small black square-shaped cubes
I think it is pyrite. Also, when I work on the black color of clay and roast it and make magnets, I filter the iron and melt it directly. It comes out with a white, heavy and solid alloy that does not react with acids, but is attracted to the magnet. So what is it?
what is the cup that holds the copper made of?
it is made of fireclay
Nothing like taking rare, expensive, gem-quality malachite and turning it into worthless copper.
where do you think copper comes from canonical tom?
@@shysonofficial From significantly cheaper and more common copper minerals of course.
@shysonoffical malachite was the easiest way for them to mine out of the rock or surface deposits , bit like iron it can be call bog iron but they found easier ways of getting iron copper can be found on occasions in raw form too copper is usually found with iron and gold deposits near so if they smelting gold they also get copper
Film wciąga niesamowicie :)
Super! :) Ile czasu wymaga redukcja malachitu w tej technice?
to zależy od ilości wsadu. Pokazany wytop zajął około 1 godziny.
@@officinaferraria a gdzie w polsce znajdę malachit?? jeśli nie ma to gdzie kupić?
@@stratiosastero6880 malachit wydobywano w Sudetach i Górach Świętokrzyskich, obecnie eksploatacji nie prowadzi się. Malachit można kupić na giełdach minerałów,
@@officinaferraria bo właśnie szukam sproszkowanego malachitu w celu przetopieniu na miedź (chcę zrobić miedziane śruby napędowe do modelu motorówki) niestety wszędzie sprzedają w kawałkach a młyna kulowego nie mam żeby go zetrzeć na drobny proszek) a topienie miedzi z całych kawałków malachitu to droga przez mękę.
Is this a historical society?
Where do you get the malachite?
Africa,
How educational. This was not simple to originally figure out.
what are those magial green stones? dos it have a name ?
it is malachite
Does the bottom of the crucible normally break like that? @2:32
Usually, the furnace can be used several times. This time copper bloom stuck to the furnace bottom and was no way to extract it.
What was the weight of the rock and how many grams produced
about 2 kg of ore has been used, i do not remember the weight of the copper.
Very cool!
Very cool process, I mean very hot but cool.
>YFW you will never be as cool as this guy.
How did the ancients know how to make copper?
I imagine the ore was probably used as a pigment but when some cloth burned they found out it turned red fire into green fire, and maybe put a bunch into a fire and found small copper prills that way maybe...
They found native copper with ore and worked out you can melt ore and get copper. Actually I have no idea. Lol
The temperatures required are way hotter than a regular campfire.
So good 🎉
Cool man! 🤩🇨🇦🙋🏼♂️
How long did you heat The furnace and how much chargoal Sid you use?
the whole process took about 1 h. 10 kg of charcoal.
Is this difficult process and is it difficult to find malachite?
This process is very easy, nothing complex. There are places on the earth where malachite is very easy to find. We used malachite from Africa, we bought it.
What is green powder???
Malachite
@@officinaferraria Thanks
Imagine what it was like to refine, manufacture copper before iron/steel tools like he is depending on.
How to make copper from Chalcopyrite Ore only???
sorry, i do not know. You can try to find this information in Pirotechnia (Biringuccio) or de re maetallica (G. Agricola).
Copper metal can be extracted from the open air roasting of a mixture of chalcopyrite and silica sand, as shown in the following reaction:
chalcopyrite + oxygen + silica
2CuFeS₂ (s) + 5O₂ (g) + 2SiO₂ (s)
⇌
2Cu (l) + 4SO₂ (g) + 2FeSiO₃ (l)
Although if roasted partially it produces Cu₂S and FeO.
Very interesting
Amazing
But what did the copper look like before all this ? Was it that turqoise powder he sprinkled on the coals or whatever that shit is?
Realistic 👍👍👍👍
Nice!
Excellent
Wow! Malachite?
gem
Like a boss
Have seen you!
Arid
Cave men learned to make fire .they seen lighting start a fire or a volcano so then they found what they could use to ignite dry tender leaves grass sticks so on
Did that guy grab a hot forge without a shirt? Lol Techno Viking has met his match for the most impressive, shirtless, Northern European dude. Lol
Great work
Smelting really 😂 funny
Mantap 👍
Молодец , не могли бы вы объяснить весь процесс на русском языке был бы признателен
....as he tucks the tender young copper chunk into their cauldron of heat.
Amaxing
👍👍👍
Hello sir
Mantap bossssss
Who is here after arnab sir class
Świetna sprawa :)
Looks like malachite
What's that little crucible made of?
It is fire clay
@@officinaferraria Handmade? nice :D
@@officinaferraria By the way, great channel, Im impressed!
Not everybody makes their own iron and steel nowadays. Its such a privilege to be able to watch you do it.
Yes, IT is handmade
Copper has a low melting point. Easier to do a mould.
Dothraki?
Dhil
I must work now so I can Cu later
😅😅😅
Poor
That's barbaric!
Those gloves don't look mid evil,job lots $4:99
Viking
For a blue-collar worker or a common person during the Copper Age, a prized possession made of copper would likely have been a functional tool or weapon that could make their daily life easier or provide a means of protection. Some examples of valuable copper items for a common person might have included:
Copper axe: A copper axe would have been more durable and efficient than a stone axe, making tasks like cutting wood or clearing land easier.
Copper dagger or spearhead: A copper weapon would have provided better protection against enemies or wild animals.
Copper jewelry: Copper was also used for decorative purposes, and a simple piece of copper jewelry, such as a bracelet or necklace, might have held symbolic or sentimental value.
Copper pot or vessel: Copper was sometimes used to make cooking or storage vessels, which could have been considered valuable items for a common person.
It's important to note that copper was still a relatively rare and valuable resource during the Copper Age, so even these basic tools and weapons would have been considered prized possessions for a blue-collar worker.