The Ultimate Gaming CPU? | Overclocking, Tuning & Benchmarking The AMD Ryzen 7950X3D Review💪
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
- Is the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D the ultimate new CPU for gaming? In this video professional overclocking expert Ian “8Pack” Parry been busy overclocking, tuning & benchmarking the powerful new flagship. Find out how memory speed effects the performance, how PBO2 tuning can get you extra FPS and whether this chip is any good at performance tasks. Check out the performance on offer in a range of industry-standard benchmarks including 3D Mark, Cinebench R23, Unigine, Realbench & more. Then see how it handles games like Dirt 5, Forza Horizon 5, Final Fantasy and more!
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00:00 - Intro
00:56 - Specs on Paper
02:50 - Cooling & Temps
04:47 - Stock Benchmarks & Methodology
06:02 - Benchmark Graphs for Stock
08:05 - Overclocking & Tuning
09:14 - Benchmark Graphs for Overclocking
11:17 - How Does Overclocking the Memory Affect Performance
12:21 - Summarise the Benefits & Why to Buy This CPU
13:54 - 8Pack Systems & Bundles
Additional note - X3D CPUs need a BIOS update to run. This can be done using Bios flashback on most boards without even booting the system. Check the motherboard vendors website for the latest update.
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Looking forward to the 7800X3D :)
Can't wait for my pre order only thing need for build now.
Great WWE references throughout..... Solid information... King of the ring!!!
Best review of this CPU. It's all fucking hype atm.
Very well.
have you turned on VBS. Your cpuz screen says VBS is not on? Please do tight ram timings tuning with 1:1 UCLK and 1:3 FCLK. I doubt your 6600MT is running 1:1:3 hence the no uplift
This is a very peculiar CPU, and according to reviews, the user will need to do a few things to see the clear benefits of 3d v-cache:
- BIOS upgrade
- Chipset drivers upgrade. Here, upgrading the chipset drivers by itself is not enough, two additional driver modules need to be installed: PPM Provisioning and 3d V-cache Performance Optimizer.
- Power plan needs to be changed to "Balanced" instead of the usual "high performance"
- Xbox Game Bar needs to be updated and used during gaming.
If done right, perf difference can be as high as 35% in games which clearly benefit from 3d v-cache, but at least it's pretty much fully automated once all the above steps are done correctly.
Honestly, people should do this with every new build. I bet 70-90% of all diy desktops are running older bios and drivers. It's stuff that's easily forgotten.
I checked Asus for MB Chipset updates, nada. Also checked AMD website for the 5.xxxxxx chipset updates, not able to find them. (chipset not BIOS)
Could you elaborate on why the “balanced” power plan would outperform the “high performance” power plan? I’ve never heard that before.
@@d1didit799 This is because of the peculiar design of the 7900X3D and 7950X3D processors. Both CPUs have two CCDs, however, the two CCDs are not equal and not the same. One CCD is a regular one, and the other contains the fancy V-Cache on top. Many games can benefit greatly from V-Cache, but because one of the CCDs doesn't have V-Cache, it will reduce the total performance in these games when both CCDs are active. To mitigate this, AMD has decided to add the ability to disable (or more precisely, park) the cores of the regular CCD in specific scenarios (namely, games), effectively forcing the game to only use cores from the V-Cache-enhanced CCD. You're loosing half of the total cores, but for games, this is not a problem, because most games wouldn't need more than 8 cores anyway.
To implement this core-parking feature, AMD did some tricks, as mentioned in my previous post (which is the reason it's so important to follow the steps), and if everything is done correctly, the feature should work pretty much automatically.
Regarding the power plan, the "high performance" plan would prevent the system from parking the regular cores, because the plan assumes by its nature that all cores should be active, it doesn't know that it's actually not the ideal setup for V-cache games. Therefore, the "balanced" plan is the recommended plan, because it will allow the CPU to work as intended, parking the regular cores when needed, and enabling all cores in other scenarios (e.g. productivity).
Two further comments:
1. I'm sceptical about the 7900X3D, because the CPU has only 6 cores per CCD, meaning it will only use 6 V-cache cores during gaming (because of parking). That might hurt performance.
2. If you think these peculiarities and unequal CCDs are too much to stomach, just go for a 7800X3D. It has just a single 8-core CCD, which has V-Cache on top, therefore, there's no need to park/unpark cores. No fuss, no confusions, it just works. Not perfect for productivity because it's effectively an 8-core CPU, but great for a gamer PC.
@@nexy84 Wow thanks for the detailed response I understand this way better now. I’m building a rig with a 7950x3D and a STRIX 4090 right now. I was worried that the setup for the CPU would be complex enough for me to miss something, but you cleared it up for me. Do you own one of these chips atm?
crazy amounts of cache... I remember I paid an arm and a leg for a cache chip for my first 486 board.... a whopping 256k !
Did you not update the bios and the x3d chipset update? All the other reviewers are getting way better results in gaming
Bios was updated yes, chipset drivers also...
The results are going to vary quite a bit from one reviewer to the next. I know AMD sent out a reviewer's guide on how exactly they want it set up. Part of it was the BIOS, chipset drivers, windows update for Xbox... Then you also had to tell windows whether you wanted the game / program to run on the first CCD with the cache. Honestly it's a little bit of a pain in the a$$. The 7800x3D should be much much easier.
did to do uclock=memclock for that 6600mhz memory? Cause the memory controller running at 3300mhz is impressive most arent stable past 6200mhz ram and 3100mhz controller
i just bought a 13600K & rtx 4080 Gamerock, its rock solid, i enjoy it. No lasso, no high power consumption, just playing my games.
AMDiP is dipping :)
My 23 year old self would kick my 43 year ole ass If i spent this much on a cpu I don’t need.
Alas, it’s bad ass if you can afford/justify the cost.
What? from 254 to 294 fps just with pbo2? hmmm...
You kind look like Jay with Gains
tightening timings is better fro ryzen than going over 6000mhz
True. Tightening the timings (subtimings especially) iis important for both AMD and Intel. Many people ignore those sadly (understandable, not an easy task if you're new to overclocking)
How tf you do that
@@damnsonalabanca420
In bios. I use Ryzen dram calculator. Not sure if it’s out on 7000 series yet
its sold out everywhere im so angry... wanted to get it ASAP
I happen to be up checking every hour. Saw it on Newegg and waited 10 minutes to see if it'd pop up on Amazon because I was curious if we got Jedi Survivor with it. Ended up just ordering it from Newegg because I was afraid of it going out of stock if I waited any longer. Supposed to be here Thursday!
This is one of those pointless products that makes no sense, but go ahead.
@@doctorz7305 im in germany different situation here it was sold everywhere in 20min next stock end march availible
@@LouRaX If you don't need it for productivity tasks, may as well get the 7800x3d since it's releasing April 6th.
@@mchonkler7225 ya i dont want to wait that long to be honest... so their upsell strat works on me :D
I didn't know gamers needed 16 cores
I assume they do ,4 cors only and even a Overwatch 2 lags and stutters - 6 cores is the new minimum for windowsapplications
@@jari2018 They don't. I was being sarcasting.
No """gamer""" is going to buy this thing. They will wait for the 7800x3d
@@jari2018 8 cores enough for me even the i9 13900K has 8 p + 16 e cores even some games will use 8 cores and only 5800X3D have 8 cores good for gaming
I guess you should’ve talked about the fact when you’re playing a game it’s shuts the other CCD off so it’s effectively an 8 core
Effectively an 8 core till it needs more cores, then it uses the rest.
@@nikolarajkovic3558can it use the rest and still use the 3d on the first 8? So it is possible this chip would use more than 8 on a game?
@ayliniemi it's possible, but there is a performance penalty. Only eldenring didn't show any penalty, might have been better with all 16 cores. It's been a while since I tested it.
If you have the cpu, you can use process lasso to choose which cores a program will use, and you can test it that way. What I tend to do is have most games run on the 3d cores and most other programs on the other 8 cores
@nikolarajkovic3558 my 4070 will probably be the bottleneck anyways. I'm going from an i9 and 5500xt to the 7950x3d/4070oc. I play arma 3 which is very cpu intensive I hear so well have to see how it goes if it parks half the cores.
Ahhh, something is off here. Only 2% better performance than the 7950X??? Nah, something way off. All other reviewers have the 7950X3D performing well 20-30% over the 7950X and about 6-10% over the 13900K. No way the X3D is only 2% better than 7950X.
Oh nooo all the reviewers I watched with review samples and instructions specifically by amd on how to run benchmarks are not getting the same results!! Welcome to reality. Most reviewers are paid and told by and how to run the cpu, what stuff to enable and disable to make it run better and specific games that they know is going to perform better.
7950X3D is not that much better than the non 3D counterpart for the price that it costs. Performance may vary depending on the games being tested. This is why you source data from multiple review outlets and make a decision.
@@antoniok52 exactly! Overclockers UK are a much more reliable resource for real world numbers.
@@frostmanee not so much better??? Almost every review outlet shows the 7950x3d 20-30% faster than 7950x. How is that not “much”?? The 7950x barely edges out the 12900K while the 7950X3D is in “most” games edging out the 13900K and in some games completely annihilating the 13900K. People today in days expect CPU’s to give same double performance leaps as GPU’s do. Unreal
@@claudep.1926 According to who? Was a survey or study done that I'm unaware about?
Hardly faster than the 7950X in gaming, way slower in productivity, and 20% more expensive. No thanks!
Especially at 4K
£750 quid for that cpu? LMFAO!!!! No thanks.
for the performance its fair.
mans broke 💀
dont buy this cpu,it is shit overall and will be slower then 7800x3d and that is reason why punkds from AMd will release it 2 months later
"It is shit" lmao it beats the 13900KS using HALF the power. You are clueless
@@claudep.1926 beats in what!?2-3% more in 12 games average on HW channel but lose much more in productivity tasks and all system consumption are 10-14% only lower
your memory overclock should be focused on latency. Did it decrease with 6600mhz?
6600mhz is pretty impressive with ryzen 7000. Not sure what settings did you use with your overclock but memory overclock is really important for ryzen 7000.
I was more interested in how 4800-5200-5600 RAM speeds work, as the speculation I was getting was that RAM speed would have no effect on these newer chips. If I can downclock my 6000 CL30 kit to better latency at lower megatransfers, then I wuld like to know :)
@@paulanderegg5536 Well, I have 7950x with 6200mhz cl32. I suggest you to do some research on ddr5 memory overclock. Primary timings don't matter on ddr5.
6400mhz rarely works on ryzen 7000. Make sure you raise your UCLK to the max stable value. at least 2067mhz should work.
@@BleepBlop-rh9lm Was going to learn DDR AMD timing tuning when X3D dropped, but my current TUF B650M MB won't even run EXPO 6000 (out of the box kit profile) without OCCT errors and program crashes, so a bit scared to fiddle. What I mean is I would have to tune my Z5 Neo EXPO kit just to run without error at its rated EXPO 6000 CL30, but if X3D is the same for 6000 and below, I could just set 5600 and it would save me the brain tumor learning tuning would cause. :(
Good luck the 7950x3d is not a good overclocker and not a good CPU all together. Something that uses game bar to know what is a game is not a good idea it does not no what it's doing. I took mine back l3 cache is not a big jump in games 4 to 5 fps. It's useless. Just get a 7950x it's more stable and overclocks better. The 7950x3d does not like heat.
7950x for 350 usd or 7950x3d for 460? GPU is 3080 12gb. Have triple 420 rad custom loop setup. I play on 1440p 144hz. I need to upgrade my i7 6700k as it's getting too old
7950 x3d is a 7800 x3d it only turns off the other CCD in games so it's a SCAM.
How is it a scam? What a moronic comment. Try running Cinebench R20 on both, then make the same comment. You're the scam.