I recently bought the older Synchronika shortly after the II had been announced. I purposely picked the older one, because to me the fast heat up feature is not a significant advantage since I mostly make milk drinks and the steam boiler doesn’t heat up any faster with the new one. Mine has the fast heat up mode and it’s plenty fast for me. I usually turn the machine on when I wake up and by the time I’m ready for the day, the machine is ready as well. The new display is nice, but I really wanted a mostly old school mechanical machine (hence an E61 machine instead of something more digital). The old one is currently available for about $500 less than the new model. I’m very happy with my purchase.
Great improvements but I wish the display would just show, both boiler temps and group temp all at the same time. I appreciate the aesthetic of the small display but it could have been made a tab bit larger to show all of that data. I have the original syn machine and I don’t like the flip flopping display.
Agreed with the screen being a bit bigger,however, I feel like they want to keep newer technology as minimal as possible to keep that Iconic and original look.
After using a Rancilio Classe 5 commercial machine in my home since 2016, I decided to buy a Profitec Pro 800 lever espresso machine. There is no way I would ever purchase another machine with all the complicated electronics and controls as seen in this video. The lever machine is simple , reliable, and makes the best and creamiest espresso, no matter the bean used.
The plastic t failed on my 2019 synchronika and steam leaked inside of the machine. I caught it early, and it was a very quick, cheap, and easy repair Marc is right when he says it easy to work on.
Hey tp, thanks for the comment. Super easy to work on. ECM was one of the first manufactures to pipe internal moisture to drip tray. Always innovating! All ECM/Profitec machines have replaced the "T" fittings with metal hardware. Just had a Profitec Move opened up today - same there. Marc
In Australia, the ECM machine is almost $6000. My Breville dual boiler, had a tiny spring on the vacuum relief valve, so when the steam boiler heated up you didn't get that massive jet of steam before it plugs. I honestly wish profitec and ECM would add a spring to keep the vacuum. Relief valve closed during heat up to avoid excess water and steam splatter.
Hi r, Thanks for the comment. It's a tiny amount of water from the ECM's vacuum relief. A small amount of steam and a few drops of water. It's all captured and routed to the drip tray - no internal venting.
Intriguing, very intriguing. I love the new La Marzocco Linea Mini, BUT for $5,900?? no way. ECM 2 is interesting. I am still comparing and shopping. Thanks for the vidja.
Hi b, You are welcome! Mini is a decent machine but I'd say you pay a premium for the LM name and fewer capabilities. Shorter warranty, plumb kit is extra $$ Marc
I have owned the ECM Synchronika for three years now since my purchase from Whole Latte Love and this machine continues to amaze me and every single visitor that comes to my house. It's direct plumbing through the filter has also been trouble free. I can honestly vouch for ECM all day long. The brews haven't skipped a beat and reliability is exceptional. I'm glad to see the addition of the On/Off timer, the new digital screen and the fast pre-heating of the Synchronika II. Just made this machine perfect. My only wish, I wish they redesign the plastic drain tray at the bottom. Other than that, I probably intend to upgrade to this Synchronika II but not really a necessary upgrade as my machine has been flawless👌
Hey ken, Thanks for sharing your owner experience - and your patronage! It's my personal experience with the machine and comments like your which keep it at my favorite in its class. Marc
Thanks! I've been waiting for this video for a long time. Although now I'm stuck trying to decide between the original Synchronika and the Synchronika II. I think my wallet might have the final say (the price difference is US$900 where I live).
They ship to Canada,so it is available in Canada as soon as it is on their website. I got an Eureka grinder from them and their customer service and shipping was topnotch.
thank you for this video (Marc always on top!). Is it possible not to activate the steam function, that is to say not to heat the steam part boiler (we don't always need it)?
Hi bttb, yes, you can turn off the steam boiler in the settings. On the previous Symnchronika there was a switch behind the drip tray to turn of the steam boiler
Why doesn't ECM make the flow control pressure gauge match the brew and steam gauges? Regardless, looks like a great machine. My ECM Synchronika is still running strong after a constant 4 years of use. These machines are built to last
Marc you did it again another great video now I have the profitec pro 700 with the flow control do you have a trade-in allowance will you take the old one also I'd like to know if it's that much better because my Pro 700 still works great I'd like to know if it's that much of a jump where it's worth it
Hi m, currently no trade-in program. The basic internal components of the Pro 700, Drive and original Synchronika are essentially the same. There have been some upgrades through years like boiler drains, updated serviceable OPVs, etc. Newer things are really about features like fast heating and additional (and easier to access) functions like programable pre-infusion, time of day on/off. Marc
Great video! Maybe I missed it but is there a thermometer in the brew group to control the heating cartridge? How do you prevent the group from overheating?
I recently thought about an e61 group head heater. I thought: why don't they put a heater probe inside the group head. There it is. I just hope it does serve the purpose of reliability. When will the synchro 2 be available in Canada latte love?
Hi a, I had the original Synchronika in my home during Covid and a few other times since its release. I cycle through a variety of machines. Currently a Profitec Move. Marc
Hey TRD, Not without using active pre-infusion first unless there's an external pump on you reservoir providing pressure on the plumb line to the machine. Marc
@@CampbellyTube I have one and I’ve been doing it for six years but sometimes in lunchtime I feel like an espresso and I can’t wait 30 minutes for it to heat up
Hi , There were some ECM branded cups in video. Also some delicate glass Kinto cups: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/cups-and-saucers?page=2&pf_v_brand=Kinto
6:20 Hello, Marc, I still like my last generation _ECM Synchronika_ very much, but it is _really_ lame that ECM would not adapt the look of the _E61 Flow Control Valve_ gauche to match the retro look of the Synchronika manometers…
I’m in latte love. ❤️ This will be my first espresso machine. Life goals 🏆
That music playing throughout the video is awesome. Reminded me of the tv show Sons of Anarchy.
I recently bought the older Synchronika shortly after the II had been announced. I purposely picked the older one, because to me the fast heat up feature is not a significant advantage since I mostly make milk drinks and the steam boiler doesn’t heat up any faster with the new one. Mine has the fast heat up mode and it’s plenty fast for me. I usually turn the machine on when I wake up and by the time I’m ready for the day, the machine is ready as well. The new display is nice, but I really wanted a mostly old school mechanical machine (hence an E61 machine instead of something more digital). The old one is currently available for about $500 less than the new model. I’m very happy with my purchase.
Great improvements but I wish the display would just show, both boiler temps and group temp all at the same time. I appreciate the aesthetic of the small display but it could have been made a tab bit larger to show all of that data. I have the original syn machine and I don’t like the flip flopping display.
Agreed with the screen being a bit bigger,however, I feel like they want to keep newer technology as minimal as possible to keep that Iconic and original look.
After using a Rancilio Classe 5 commercial machine in my home since 2016, I decided to buy a Profitec Pro 800 lever espresso machine. There is no way I would ever purchase another machine with all the complicated electronics and controls as seen in this video. The lever machine is simple , reliable, and makes the best and creamiest espresso, no matter the bean used.
Hi MA, Thanks for sharing your thoughts! The Profitec Pro 800 is a fine machine and silent when plumbed to waterline. Doesn't get any more pure!
Marc
Absolutely gorgeous machine. I will be buying either the Bezzara Aria or the Sole next year,but this machine is a beast
Hey P, for sure!
Marc
Wonderful to see Marc and Todd, coffee’s ‘Dynamic Duo’, back in action with a dynamic machine!
Hey d, thanks for the comment. Look for more Todd coming up in our review of the Profitec Move.
Marc
Great improvement from the synchronika 1...and as usual, very detailed video on this one guy's!😊
Hey L, thanks so much!
Marc
Why have I watched it? I want it!!!
The plastic t failed on my 2019 synchronika and steam leaked inside of the machine.
I caught it early, and it was a very quick, cheap, and easy repair
Marc is right when he says it easy to work on.
Hey tp, thanks for the comment. Super easy to work on. ECM was one of the first manufactures to pipe internal moisture to drip tray. Always innovating! All ECM/Profitec machines have replaced the "T" fittings with metal hardware. Just had a Profitec Move opened up today - same there.
Marc
I was fortunate to be able to get the AMG version and I freaking love the machine!
Hey omg, thanks for sharing your love. AMG limited edition is beautiful with carbon fiber components etc.
Marc
In Australia, the ECM machine is almost $6000. My Breville dual boiler, had a tiny spring on the vacuum relief valve, so when the steam boiler heated up you didn't get that massive jet of steam before it plugs. I honestly wish profitec and ECM would add a spring to keep the vacuum. Relief valve closed during heat up to avoid excess water and steam splatter.
Hi r, Thanks for the comment. It's a tiny amount of water from the ECM's vacuum relief. A small amount of steam and a few drops of water. It's all captured and routed to the drip tray - no internal venting.
Intriguing, very intriguing. I love the new La Marzocco Linea Mini, BUT for $5,900?? no way. ECM 2 is interesting. I am still comparing and shopping. Thanks for the vidja.
Hi b, You are welcome! Mini is a decent machine but I'd say you pay a premium for the LM name and fewer capabilities. Shorter warranty, plumb kit is extra $$
Marc
Looks like you would be polishing the metal finish on this a lot, and enjoying every minute of it. 🙂
Hi mm, like washing a fine auto!
Marc
I have owned the ECM Synchronika for three years now since my purchase from Whole Latte Love and this machine continues to amaze me and every single visitor that comes to my house. It's direct plumbing through the filter has also been trouble free. I can honestly vouch for ECM all day long. The brews haven't skipped a beat and reliability is exceptional.
I'm glad to see the addition of the On/Off timer, the new digital screen and the fast pre-heating of the Synchronika II. Just made this machine perfect. My only wish, I wish they redesign the plastic drain tray at the bottom. Other than that, I probably intend to upgrade to this Synchronika II but not really a necessary upgrade as my machine has been flawless👌
Hey ken, Thanks for sharing your owner experience - and your patronage! It's my personal experience with the machine and comments like your which keep it at my favorite in its class.
Marc
Thanks! I've been waiting for this video for a long time. Although now I'm stuck trying to decide between the original Synchronika and the Synchronika II. I think my wallet might have the final say (the price difference is US$900 where I live).
Hey matt, You're welcome - decisions!
Marc
When will the machine be available in Canada? Can't wait to get it!
They ship to Canada,so it is available in Canada as soon as it is on their website. I got an Eureka grinder from them and their customer service and shipping was topnotch.
thank you for this video (Marc always on top!). Is it possible not to activate the steam function, that is to say not to heat the steam part boiler (we don't always need it)?
I believe you can turn off the steam boiler from underneath the drip tray.
Hi bttb, yes, you can turn off the steam boiler in the settings. On the previous Symnchronika there was a switch behind the drip tray to turn of the steam boiler
Why doesn't ECM make the flow control pressure gauge match the brew and steam gauges?
Regardless, looks like a great machine. My ECM Synchronika is still running strong after a constant 4 years of use. These machines are built to last
great improvements
Marc you did it again another great video now I have the profitec pro 700 with the flow control do you have a trade-in allowance will you take the old one also I'd like to know if it's that much better because my Pro 700 still works great I'd like to know if it's that much of a jump where it's worth it
Hi m, currently no trade-in program. The basic internal components of the Pro 700, Drive and original Synchronika are essentially the same. There have been some upgrades through years like boiler drains, updated serviceable OPVs, etc. Newer things are really about features like fast heating and additional (and easier to access) functions like programable pre-infusion, time of day on/off.
Marc
When available for purchase?
Great video! Maybe I missed it but is there a thermometer in the brew group to control the heating cartridge? How do you prevent the group from overheating?
Hi m, Thanks for the question. There is a temperature probe in the group. You can see that in shot where we pulled the group from the machine.
Marc
Hi all
I recently thought about an e61 group head heater. I thought: why don't they put a heater probe inside the group head. There it is. I just hope it does serve the purpose of reliability. When will the synchro 2 be available in Canada latte love?
Ask and you shall receive! wholelattelove.ca/products/ecm-synchronika
- Nick
I am more interested in which machine he has at home
Hi a, I had the original Synchronika in my home during Covid and a few other times since its release. I cycle through a variety of machines. Currently a Profitec Move.
Marc
So this is like the mercedes benz of espresso machines.
Not this one. AMG collaborated on v1.
They did a collab with AMG on a special edition version of the original Synchronika
How long can the active preinfusion be set to?
Could I still get passive preinfusion if I plumb it to a 5gal reservoir?
Hey TRD, Not without using active pre-infusion first unless there's an external pump on you reservoir providing pressure on the plumb line to the machine.
Marc
@@Wholelattelovepage Thanks Marc! Any knowledge of people using a Flojet to pressurize the line?
PLEASE TELL THERE IS A WAY TO REDUCE HEAT UP TIME ON MY VERSION ONE SYNCHRONIKA!!!
No
Just get a wifi plug so you can do it from your phone or even schedule it.
@@CampbellyTube I have one and I’ve been doing it for six years but sometimes in lunchtime I feel like an espresso and I can’t wait 30 minutes for it to heat up
Which cups are those ?
Hi , There were some ECM branded cups in video. Also some delicate glass Kinto cups: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/cups-and-saucers?page=2&pf_v_brand=Kinto
$3,350 ✌️
Sorteo❤
Did he say a hole lot more? 😂
6:20 Hello, Marc, I still like my last generation _ECM Synchronika_ very much, but it is _really_ lame that ECM would not adapt the look of the _E61 Flow Control Valve_ gauche to match the retro look of the Synchronika manometers…
Hi agcs, Thanks for sharing your thoughts - that would be nice! I'll pass along your comment to ECM.
Marc