How Strong is Markus Ruhl vs Dorian Yates?

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • How Strong is Markus Ruhl vs Dorian Yates?
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  • @StrengthUniverse
    @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +8

    Thanks for watching. Please comment below.
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  • @Kneto
    @Kneto 8 месяцев назад +63

    That locked legs of Dorian in the leg press give me shivers. My knees are hurting from watching

    • @adamdahlstrom2095
      @adamdahlstrom2095 8 месяцев назад +6

      Hehe was looking for this sort of comment, I 100% agree, hurts me tooo

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +8

      I was thinking the same while editing the video

    • @luke-kun9030
      @luke-kun9030 8 месяцев назад +5

      I couldn't even look at it

    • @Berserk1717
      @Berserk1717 8 месяцев назад +5

      It looks dangerous and awful but trust me it isn't actually

    • @John-cena6483
      @John-cena6483 8 месяцев назад +3

      I always lock out, granted, I've only done five plates on the leg press for my sets, so maybe it's only an issue when you get real heavy, but I've never had an issue. No knee pain, no backwards bending. Just don't ego lift, go down all the way, and you'll be fine

  • @baldymagoo
    @baldymagoo 8 месяцев назад +35

    On form alone, Dorian hands down wins.

    • @reshi1037
      @reshi1037 Месяц назад

      Schwer und falsch

  • @toptextbottomtext3062
    @toptextbottomtext3062 8 месяцев назад +24

    Ruhl's bench form was fucking absurd. I'm not even sure if it's appropriate to call that a bench press because it looks more like a guillotine barbell fly, and to do that with close to 5 plates is inhuman.

  • @Pantelifts10
    @Pantelifts10 8 месяцев назад +20

    Interesting comparison. Both mass monsters and heavy trainers

  • @Isumaninja
    @Isumaninja 7 месяцев назад +1

    The "Stupid Bingus" in your monotone style killed me lol. Love all your vids

  • @ilmu7893
    @ilmu7893 8 месяцев назад +12

    Future video idea: The strenght of Jordan Peters compared to some other strong bodybuilder?

  • @JohnPeter1940
    @JohnPeter1940 8 месяцев назад +9

    Best back vs best delts& chest !

  • @kevinprendergast5885
    @kevinprendergast5885 8 месяцев назад +5

    Johnnie Jackson vs Ronnie Coleman next! Glad to hear your narration again.

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад

      Thanks. Johnnie v Ronnie: ruclips.net/video/oHFzQDOp4rA/видео.html

  • @up-statestrong4451
    @up-statestrong4451 8 месяцев назад +11

    Markus Ruhl's bench press form is very scary. It almost looks like a Guillotine Press when you come right under the chin instead of lowering the weight lower to your ribcage. I cant believe he never tore his pecs.

    • @Schmandgrab
      @Schmandgrab 8 месяцев назад +4

      He actually did tear his pec which led him to retire. It was a slow process,first notice by a photographer, but got worse over time.

    • @Schmandgrab
      @Schmandgrab 8 месяцев назад +4

      He stated himself that he would press with a different form if he could go back and change things.

  • @Sthiwatari
    @Sthiwatari 8 месяцев назад +3

    Two legends in one video ❤

  • @Bavarian_Lifting
    @Bavarian_Lifting 8 месяцев назад +12

    Dorian definitely did NOT bench 500x8😂 he barely got 405x5 on incline, that doesnt make any sense

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +4

      I have doubts but he did say he used 160 dbs for shoulder press and did flys with 120lbs both of which are verified with videos or photos so who knows, maybe he got stronger later in his career?

    • @Mahmoud12324
      @Mahmoud12324 5 месяцев назад +1

      The footage in the video before his blood and guts video , he is not the same size , I don't believe him specially when say (like) 500

    • @Mahmoud12324
      @Mahmoud12324 5 месяцев назад +1

      How ever it doesn't matter I will never be able to hit that weight 😂😂

  • @theeclecticlifewithsam
    @theeclecticlifewithsam 8 месяцев назад +10

    Nice. I've been a big fan of Marcus for years. Timing is everything with how far a bodybuilder can progress in his placings. Dorian came up at the right time as Haney's reign was closing. Marcus had to deal with Jay, Ronnie, Nasser and others when he was coming up. The competition was deeper for him, IMO. Great video of two amazing competitors! 👍

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 8 месяцев назад +1

      you're in denial, Dorian's competition throughout the 90s was steeper than what Marcus had to deal with.
      Every single name except for Jay saw their primes during the 90s.
      When was Nasser at his best? 1996 and 1997 when he was placing in the top 3. Not afterwards.
      When was Shawn Ray at his best? 94 and 96.
      When was Levrone at his best? around '95.
      Flex? 93.
      These same people were placing top 2 and 3 during Ronnie's era as well, but they weren't in their primes anymore, except for Cutler whose first Olympia was in '99 and Yates was already retired.

  • @justaguyfromreddit
    @justaguyfromreddit 8 месяцев назад +3

    damn, haven't seen you in a while, youtube was shadowing you a lot, I never saw any of the recent uploads

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +1

      This is only my second video since the start of Novermber. I expect it will be sometime before YT start giving my videos any exposure.

    • @justaguyfromreddit
      @justaguyfromreddit 8 месяцев назад

      @@StrengthUniverse hows the recovering is going buddy?

  • @stupidbingus123
    @stupidbingus123 8 месяцев назад +3

    nice video brother

  • @hanswinkler8014
    @hanswinkler8014 8 месяцев назад +2

    „Urs spottet Markus Rühl beim Seitheben“ in this Reel you can see Markus do lateral raises with 30kg in the age of 50

  • @b_rabbit435
    @b_rabbit435 4 месяца назад +2

    I'd like to see Magnus Samuelsson vs Svend Karlsen.

  • @factoryape79
    @factoryape79 8 месяцев назад +2

    Great to have you back 👍

  • @thedailybullshowyoutube
    @thedailybullshowyoutube 8 месяцев назад +2

    How about a video on "the worst synthol abusers ever" im curious how bad it can get

  • @Anabolic-s5n
    @Anabolic-s5n 3 месяца назад +2

    Markus bench form is crazy

  • @goncalotome1791
    @goncalotome1791 Месяц назад

    Hey!!! Please talk about Dexter Jackson Strength!

  • @damiensmith9240
    @damiensmith9240 8 месяцев назад +1

    Welcome back. Hope you're fully recovered.

  • @marcstarc
    @marcstarc 8 месяцев назад

    True.

  • @colinluby5950
    @colinluby5950 8 месяцев назад

    Cybex leg press and hack seem harder to train with than some other makes. They did compete on the same stage

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +1

      Dorian retired in 1997, the same year Markus won his pro card.

    • @colinluby5950
      @colinluby5950 8 месяцев назад

      @@StrengthUniverse Sorry, my mistake

  • @JUSTAMAN012
    @JUSTAMAN012 8 месяцев назад +3

    Looks like i am first 😁

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +4

      Or second even, but thanks for the comment

  • @giuseppelucido5780
    @giuseppelucido5780 8 месяцев назад +2

    IN THE NEXT VIDEO DANIEL BELL VS JESUS OLIVARES PLEASE...💪👌

  • @stefHeffels
    @stefHeffels 8 месяцев назад +1

    Do Kyle vs itsadreamworld plz

  • @rexdaugherty1987
    @rexdaugherty1987 8 месяцев назад +1

    Markus for the leg press

    • @TheCaliRhino
      @TheCaliRhino 8 месяцев назад

      Nah, those hand assists on the knees is a major boost. I was leg pressing 1000 pounds last year for reps & the hands on the knees makes it way easier.

    • @hanswinkler8014
      @hanswinkler8014 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheCaliRhinoMarkus tells in this DVD the hands are just for the safety und not for the help, Im from Germany, Im so sorry for my bad english

    • @PiTeKCraft
      @PiTeKCraft 6 месяцев назад

      @@hanswinkler8014 def my thoughts

  • @kalzonenu
    @kalzonenu 6 месяцев назад

    Steeper angle=more force Dorian win
    I would also argue that skipping the bottom part of a military press makes it dramaticly more easy. So does a smithmachine.
    Also Ruhls inclined bench is more of a normal bench when you lift your ass off like that.

  • @mauricejenkins2819
    @mauricejenkins2819 8 месяцев назад +1

    First of all with a Smith machine as you said you’re not doing that true weight that’s on the bar because of the counterbalance! But I also think more important is the fact that you do not have to your self balance the load as you move it ,it (which may be bad) has a predetermined bar path prior to you even attempt the movement! And I enjoy listening to your post not only for the history and comparisons, but your accent is cool dude💪

  • @christopherseat9871
    @christopherseat9871 8 месяцев назад +1

    Markus smoked cigarettes. DORIAN YATES didn't.

  • @jurandgarbuszkin
    @jurandgarbuszkin 3 месяца назад

    Raul 237 kg na barki 6 reps?? Maiał barki silniejsze od klatki?? Jak dobrze zrozumiałem to 210 kg na klatkę i 237 na barki.Jeśli dobrze zrozumiałem to poznałem pierwazy taki przypadek. 😊Pozdrawiam.

  • @tjrocha7732
    @tjrocha7732 8 месяцев назад +1

    I made it

  • @billj4525
    @billj4525 7 месяцев назад

    Full range of motion with on leg press with 1500 is way way harder than the short range of motion with 2094 as well. I have seen Ruls use close to rull range of motion and 1100 pound was challenging for him. You can't compare lifts with completely different ranges of motion. A lot of these lifts are just wrong.

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  7 месяцев назад +1

      As per the commentary, differences in grip, ROM, form and equipment are all highlighted

  • @billj4525
    @billj4525 7 месяцев назад

    That wasn't even lose to 518 on the shoulder press. Watch the actual video and look at the plates, and it's like just over 3 plates a side. The guy who made the video saying over 500 originally was lying or just had no clue. I have seen the video and counted the weight.

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  7 месяцев назад +1

      I've been training for almost 4 decades and speak to many of the athletes so saying I'm "lying or just had no clue" is just plan disrespectful. Here is the original video. You can clearly see 3 x blue (20kg each) and 3 x yellow (15kg each) per side plus the weight of the bar. Please feel free to count the plates yourself: ruclips.net/video/0vgjAKoZHGc/видео.html

    • @prithwirajbhardwaj9295
      @prithwirajbhardwaj9295 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@StrengthUniverse4 decades of training? Crazy man. I wanna see your videos next 😂❤

  • @giuseppelucido5780
    @giuseppelucido5780 8 месяцев назад

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES , VERSUS 4EVER!!!💪

  • @Babukhan-j4g
    @Babukhan-j4g 11 дней назад +1

    Dorian wins

  • @robranko5931
    @robranko5931 8 месяцев назад +2

    Dorian is d best but 8 reps of 500lbs??????????????????????

  • @Bigbencher
    @Bigbencher 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dorian lifted the weights himself...I don't know what Markus was doing on occasion

  • @kckubinski5621
    @kckubinski5621 7 месяцев назад

    Dorian was 5ft9 Markus 5ft10.5
    Marcus was way bigger and stronger uncrowned Mr Olympia! Best of all time markus!

  • @MOurad_d87
    @MOurad_d87 2 месяца назад

    Phil heath ❤

  • @adamrojas8547
    @adamrojas8547 8 месяцев назад

    Markus all the way

    • @billj4525
      @billj4525 7 месяцев назад

      His legs were strong, but he actually wasn't that strong for his size. It's pretty obvious when you watch him working out. I mean it's pretty obvious Marcus couldn't bench that 463 without a spotter and lifting his body off the bench. Is he really strong? Well obviously yet, but just not super strong like a Ronnie Coleman. There are other guys stronger, many.

  • @r2edali637
    @r2edali637 11 дней назад

    dorian yates real height is 5'8 not 5'11.

  • @joebot9309
    @joebot9309 8 месяцев назад +1

    Marcus had much better legs

    • @itsnotfunny8257
      @itsnotfunny8257 8 месяцев назад +1

      i wouldn't say MUCH.

    • @erickelley5420
      @erickelley5420 8 месяцев назад +1

      Lol his hams and glutes we're soft asf compared to yates.

  • @Geckoliga
    @Geckoliga 8 месяцев назад +1

    I'd give it all to Dorian, cause of heavy weights and very good technique.
    Markus was/is still overrated: heavy stageweight small condition; heavy workweights small technique. 😘😊

  • @MinionTomato1
    @MinionTomato1 3 месяца назад +1

    If Dorian had sloppy for him, I’m sure he could bench a lot more. His form is textbook making it more difficult, but still stronger than Marcus.

  • @marcstarc
    @marcstarc 8 месяцев назад

    Almost every lift shown is assisted. No real powerhouses imo.

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +1

      They are all hands on that makes the point in which they receive assistance very hard to judge.

  • @Faktantarkastaja
    @Faktantarkastaja 8 месяцев назад

    Every lift was helped, not any clean lift

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад

      Spotters were very hands on for both athletes

  • @theotherchannel2028
    @theotherchannel2028 8 месяцев назад +4

    with 150x6 seated press you ain't pressing 227 8 times on the bench mate, no way

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +1

      There is no equation for carry over of an individuals strength from a shoulder press to bench press.

    • @theotherchannel2028
      @theotherchannel2028 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@StrengthUniverse yes but there is common sense, and also the gym experience

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +1

      @@theotherchannel2028 I've got plenty of both but I wouldn't dare to assume what someone could bench press based on there overhead press. Some people, genetically aren't very good at overhead

    • @OhgodImtoosexy
      @OhgodImtoosexy 8 месяцев назад +1

      I hate their bs claims!!!

  • @edwardhinton1615
    @edwardhinton1615 8 месяцев назад +1

    6 Mr Olympia's to zero tells you who was the strongest.

  • @Joseph-lr3lt
    @Joseph-lr3lt 8 месяцев назад +1

    Dorian was 5'4&3/4-- Marcus was 5'6&1/4

    • @incidentus7626
      @incidentus7626 8 месяцев назад +7

      Dorian was 5’10 markus was comparable to ronnie in height maybe even a little bit taller

    • @MellonVegan
      @MellonVegan 8 месяцев назад +7

      There is more than enough video evidence of them next to other people. What you're saying is just wrong.

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 8 месяцев назад

      Ronnie is the same height as Dorian...​@@incidentus7626

    • @Pantelifts10
      @Pantelifts10 8 месяцев назад +4

      Troll. Marcus was close to 5'11 at his prime. Stood beside him same height as me

    • @dj_m19
      @dj_m19 8 месяцев назад

      Ronnie and Dorian were the same height@@incidentus7626

  • @BruceWayne-ri4wr
    @BruceWayne-ri4wr 8 месяцев назад

    Dorian bench pressed 500 lb for 10 reps he said that on Patrick bet David interview I don't think any of these bodybuilders are doing that

    • @Pantelifts10
      @Pantelifts10 8 месяцев назад +8

      I don't believe it. Exaggerations. He had 405X6 on Incline on his prime.

    • @samscharp3367
      @samscharp3367 8 месяцев назад +4

      Kevin Levrone was. He put on a master class when it came to bench press

    • @Pantelifts10
      @Pantelifts10 8 месяцев назад

      @@samscharp3367 I believe that Levrone did it cause he had 3-4 reps 500lbs on a video after his torn chest injury. So definitely believable

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад +2

      Lets not forget that Kevin tore his pec going heavy on the bench press

    • @StrengthUniverse
      @StrengthUniverse  8 месяцев назад

      @BruceWayne-ri4wr Dorian quite clearly states the weight and numbers of reps he performed on this video

  • @ΕπαμεινωνδαςΚωσταρας

    Doing Eddie Robinson

  • @bugmeanie6526
    @bugmeanie6526 8 месяцев назад

    🧙‍♂️🪄💨 It comes down to long-term sustainability.