When I first became a believer I was spoon fed Dispensational Eschatology. I really thought that this was absolute truth. However, the more I read the Bible, the more I realized how bankrupt it really was... If one reads the Bible, contextually, while allowing Scripture to interpret Scripture, one will discover that there are "Great Errors in Dispensational Eschatology!"
Thank you Brother for a great teaching.All that dispensationalism is a big joke.It is very sad that all American theology is 2 inch thick in depth and 3000 miles wide.
The gospel taught by Peter and the Lord in his earthly ministry was without the cross. Nobody could be saved in Matthew-John by the gospel of the cross, which is the only gospel that brings salvation to all men today. God is not bringing in his kingdom to Israel today, but he is ministering the good news of Christ crucified and resurrected for the sins of all men. A gospel without the cross is no gospel to lost sinners. The only gospel that saves today requires the cross of Christ. Salvation is only on the basis of the death, blood, and resurrection of Christ for your sins. This is the only gospel that saves today. There is more than one gospel in the Bible. When you see the gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, you will better see it missing from Deu.6:5, Matt.3:2, John 3:16, Acts 2:38
@@ishiftfocus7295 if you read all of acts 2, you see the death, burial, resurrection, and remission of sins. It’s all there. I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. Galatians 1:6-9 - KJV For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 3:11 - KJV
@@ishiftfocus7295 there is no other gospel. All people, even those before Christ, were saved by God because of their faith in the finished work of the messiah. Hebrews 11 is a testament to this. The cross of Christ conquered sin and death, and secureed the Resurrection of the Body for all time and all people who had and all inevitably will confess Christ as Lord. There is and never was no other salvation.
The natural branch was cut off and we are grafted in. My head spins as there is so much division in the church. Modern versions have corrupted everything. Eschatology is VERY important and yes we must get it right. This was 9 years ago. Anyone still here? Kind of like Daniel's 70th week thrown into the future when it was fulfilled by Jesus Christ.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
@@lavieenrose5954 New Covenant Whole Gospel: Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
By the way I'm a Jew if there's anyone on planet Earth who will understand what it feels like to be under the law it would be me I was raised my whole life to follow the Old Testament you have no idea the joy and the peace that came over me the day I trust in Jesus Christ as my savior do not rest the scriptures to your own destruction
2nd Timothy 2 verse 15...You ARE a Jew, and will always be a Jew in the flesh. And there's nothing wrong with that. You're also a born-again believer in Jesus Christ. The guy preaching in this video is a false prophet. If you want to understand why Dispensationalism is the correct way to rightly divide scripture, check out a RUclips channel called Born Again Barbarian.
@@martinmummert5614 according to scripture I'm not born again we aren't born again in this dispensation we are made into a member of the body of Christ where there is no difference between Jew and Gentile in the body of Christ. But Israel is what needs to be born again that's what scriptures talking about when it mentions being born again the verses are always talking about Israel. And I do believe in dispensational theology this video that I quoted on was four years ago I don't even remember this video I'll have to watch the video again to give you my updated thoughts on it but I'm a mid Acts dispensationalist I believe entrusting alone in the death bear on resurrection of Jesus Christ not counting on any physical works in the flesh that I do in order to attain to Salvation. Salvation is by grace through faith without works. But I'll watch this video again in order to see what he was talking about it was four years ago so.
@@martinmummert5614 okay I remember this guy now. There is a difference between the church the body of Christ and the kingdom church. Because the Jews have to endure till the end of the tribulation. Whereas the body of Christ we don't have to endure anything salvation is by grace through faith at this time we live in there are no works we do today in order to get salvation. Salvation is by grace through faith without works. Since I'm a Jew and I have study Torah since I was a child you should know. We Jews never went to heaven when we died we went to a place called Abraham's bosom the term bosom in scripture refers to a place of safety. Salvation for us in the Old Testament was not to Heaven it was to a place of safety called Abraham's bosom. Because of this we worked our Salvation AR salvation was a work we were never promised heaven we were under a covenant theology meaning the Covenant we made was specifically with God it had nothing to do with you Gentiles you Gentiles in time past violated God's word when he told you to go all over the world you created a Tower of Babel in Rebellion to God and you ignored everything God told you. Because of this salvation was given to the Jews to the first Jew Abraham. After Abraham was given salvation he had to get circumsized in his flesh in order to get Redemption this is because circumcision there is a law of circumcision where us Jews had to be circumcised or we would be cast out. This was not up for debate the fact that a lot of you Gentiles today believe that you are following the same thing and Pryor books as you are today is because most of you guys have no intellectual Integrity you literally follow what people tell you and you don't actually study anything this is because most of you guys have no Integrity as intellectuals especially when it comes to reading books. Again I'm not trying to be mean to you I'm making this as a broad assertion based on all the research I've done on the subject. I will be making a video tonight on this exact video this guy is making here or I'm going to break down how dispensationalism is biblical and where in the Bible is spoken now it'll take me awhile to make it but we'll see if I get it out tonight or not. Just understand there is a very big difference between the body of Christ and the Kingdom Church
@@jcismyall no I'm still a Jew I'm still by Blood a Jew being made a member of the body of Christ by believe in the gospel doesn't make me any less of a Jew today as the day when I was born. When you believe the gospel you are sealed with the Holy Spirit God no longer makes a distinction between Jew Gentile Bond or free male or female. It's not that I'm no longer a Jew it's that God is no longer making the distinction as me as a Jew in the body of Christ for today. I'm still a Jew he's just not looking at me as a Jew that's it. Spiritually I am a member of his body physically I'm still just as a Jew as I was the day before yesterday and this very instant. It doesn't matter if you are a Jew or a gentile your position is now in Christ therefore you are no longer considered foreigners or aliens. You're no longer considered a Jew or a gentile because spiritually you are placed into something called the body of Christ where there is no distinction between sexes or racial groups like us Jews
Thank You very much posting. Real Truth. Whole life I believed in this dispensational theology lie but God opened my eyes and helped me to understand the truth. "There is one body and one Spirit,.. one Lord, one FAITH, one baptism; ..one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." Ephe 4:4-6. "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Gal 3:28. God bless you.
Thank you Brother for a great teaching.All that dispensationalism is a big joke.It is very sad that all American theology is 2 inch thick in depth and 3000 miles wide.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ? (Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30) The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations? 1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8) 2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ? 3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds? 4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh? 5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers? 6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"? 7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost? 8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.) 9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? 10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church. Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology. Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.” Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107. Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.” Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323. John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated… "...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.” John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.) What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16? Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth? Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups? Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13? Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
"rightly divide" is a dispensationalist's motto... If you are a dispensationalist, you wrongly divide... the 7 dispensations are a scam... You need to ask yourself, what kind of authority has the logic behind the 7 dispensations? I will help you on this. If you study briefly on the internet what are INDUCTIVE and ABDUCTIVE REASONINGS, you will very quickly realize that dispensationalism stems from 7 INDUCTIVE REASONINGS, and some abductive reasonings too... Those reasonings have ZERO WEIGHT against a simple verse that would contradict them... ZERO. Go to "OUR ENDTIME WALK" here on RUclips, what I'm telling you i explained there...
12:30 even Paul in Ephesians said that the Church (or Christ work among the Gentiles) was hidden as a mystery to the olden saints and NOW revealed (as John says In ACTS 15:16) to the saints. Though some Saints still can't see the distinction yet as this video clearly reveals.
so why then did Peter say in 1peter 1:2 that we the gentiles were elected??? or in Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, maybe learn to read the full scripture! also did not Stephen when he was giving his defense in Acts call the children of Israel the Church in the desert??
@@erniekleinsasser35 1 Peter 1:2 is referring to the "strangers scattered" (1Peter 1:1) in Gentile nations. It doesn't make sense that gentiles would be strangers in gentile nations. Peter is referencing the Jews as the Elect in 1:2. This is the mystery he is talking about: “Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:” (Ephesians 1:9-10, KJV)
Knowing the Word of God is said enables discerning good from evil, that also the fruit identifies the tree... studying this Scofield - Darby origin is amazing that some do not see much error both within the Dispensational teaching (and) teacher's.
Thankfully, modern resources have taken care of everything on his list. He just needs to keep up with it if he's going to publicly address these issues. Scofield is absolutely correct; the OT is all about the Jewish nation; the church, the age of Jew and Gentile as co-equals, is unforeseen. Many if not all of his objections to these issues stem from his need to project the church age characteristics onto all other ages under the belief that all ages are the same as ours. The Scripture simply does not confirm this projection. It's a simple fix, but can be real embarrassing to those who have submitted their views publicly in this format. As a side, his statement that dispenstationalists "are normally Arminian" is historically a blatant falsehood. Most classic dispenstational scholars have all been calvinist presbyterians, anglicans, and other reformed. Again, he just needs to read up on that aspect.
He turns to Romans 8 for conditions of tribulation saints? Romans is the thesis of the church. It was already established the church is gone by that time, bc Rev 4 is the rapture before the wrath is unleashed. The context of the tribulation is proselytizing to Judaism once again since a post-rapture world leaves only messianic Judaism left. This is the equivalent of someone reading the OT law into the church: its a very simple switch to an appropriate use of Scripture that's needed, that's all.
The Church is not plan B but it is Part of the plan as James told the Apostles in the book of Acts. Once Gods dealing with the world of gathering out the fullest of the Gentiles is complete He will return to fulfill the promises made to Israel as Paul says He will in Romans 9-11.
Good teaching on a tricky subject. Those people that push the heresy of Dispensationalism on going to be greatly disappointed to where they will end up, they are in my prayers.
I believe that the Lord is going to come to take up the saints including His Heavenly Bride, the Church to be with Him forever before the time of Jacobs trouble. I also believe that He died for our sins. Having believed and confessed that I am sinner and He died for them, and that He is Lord, I believe that I am born again and sealed with the Holy Spirit. So do you think I am still going to be disappointed? Why?
“a person is a JEW WHO IS ONE INWARDLY..CIrcumcision of the heart” Rom2:29 "The PROMISE were spoken to Abraham & to his SEED. Scripture does NOT SAY say "and to SEEDS," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," MEANING ONE PERSON, who is CHRIST""If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's SEED, and heirs according to THE PROMISE"Gal3:16,29 "In other words, IT IS NOT THE CHILDREN BY PHYSICAL DESCENT who are God's children.."Rom9:8 "the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel..." Eph3:6
sir, you insinuate that all dispensationalists are Arminian and/or that all Arminians are dispensationalists. You are either willfully ignorant, or just plain so. Furthermore, your characterization of Arminisnism is a straw man argument, born of your doctrinally-imposed presuppositionalism. You should simply have stayed in the "debunking dispensationalism" mode. Soteriology is obviously NOT your forte...
The church was never plan b... the lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. The cross was never an afterthought. Nor is there salvation outside of the cross and the blood of Christ.
Jlarios06 Go a little further here because “the church” is not including protestants. Protestantism is a new religion that is a few hundred years old. A heresy that split the church of Christ. If you really do want to come to Jesus you need to go back to the original deposit of faith. You take the authority of the Bible from the Council of Nicaea, so take their authority on what they thought and believed as well.
ApothecaryMama Bear I disagree. There is only authority in the written word. The apostles doctrine. Paul said it best when he said to reject any other doctrine other than what had already been taught by the disciples/apostles of Christ. Nicean creed is not fully aligned with the the apostles so that’s not the ultimate authority. Protestants place their faith in Christ alone. That biblical.
He came unto His own, but His own received Him not. But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His Name. John 1:9, 10. Yes, Jesus came to be received by His people, the Jews. The hierarchy of the Jews knew O.T. prophecies of the coming Messiah, but totally rejected Jesus, the King of the Jews. God foreknew that His people would reject His Son. . . .like Cain rejected God's plan of a sacrificial lamb. . . .was angered. . . .and killed his brother Abel, because Abel had been obedient to God's command. This is picture of what the ruling Jews did to Jesus. The Sanhedrin turned the Jewish crowd against Jesus the day He was crucified. . . . .and God the Father knew before hand that ALL OF THIS would happen. Therefore, it WAS God's will that when His Son was rejected and crucified, that God took the "lemons" and turned them into "lemonade." Jesus died for all men, and His blood was, and is, efficacious to all who believed, and all who believe today. I totally reject this man's attempt to discredit some of the greatest Bible teachings of dispensations, the Kingdom, the Church, and more importantly, God's perfect will, foreknowledge, sovereignty, grace, and mercy, to every man who has or will ever live on this Earth. To God be the glory, great things He hath done! Stephenville, TX, Dec. 9, 2015
Ron Ray Amen brother, Couldn't have said it any better. .. Replacement theology is so quick to call Dispensationalism "Antisemitic " and there arguments come from man made "theory, philosophy, traditional and true antisemitic beliefs "... It's so sad that people follow men instead or just reading The Word Of God KJV ... I have only heard a few wild insane "brothers " teach "a plan b "... and they are very few ....it's very simple to read and understand The Word of God with 3 principles "To Whom, To Why & When " is it spoken..for years I struggled with James ( Grace & Works) till I actually read James 1:1-2 TO THE 12 TRIBES OF ISREAL! !!!
Thank you, Ron and Chefand. I have a word of appreciation for the host of this video for faithfully quoting Darby, Scofield, Larkins and O'Hair, which, as I see it, only reinforced their loyalty to the scripture. This video can actually be a study material to promote dispensationalism. Blessings.
Hey Boy sit down , there's no error i 2 Timothy @ fat boy. Stop reading the 66 Books , please STUDY the Book boy!! And stop quoting men, the Bible our Manuel is the Final authority boy. You are NOT approve onto God Yet boy. Ephesians @ AKJV that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive; 2 Timothy @ Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV) 15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. You just running your mouth boy --- All I hearing is heresy boy, so go to gym and do something better.
Israel, as a national entity with covenant privilege, is set aside as Paul explains in Romans until they are regathered by God Himself into the future kingdom and restored to covenant status. While the new covenant is vested in Christ and He is free to make executive decisions to distribute new covenant blessings as He sees fit, everyone is only able to access God and salvation via God's grace. No one is in covenant relationship with God today because we are enjoying God's grace.
Although Im really grateful for this video, do realize that pre-millenialism is not necessarily hyper dispensational. I am pre-millenial and hold none of these views that mid-acts or hyper dispensationalism hold to. The atoning work of Christ was plan A from the beginning to the Jew first and also to the Greek. However, around the 40 minute mark, some of these quotes from dispensationalists are essentially the same as most Calvinist teaching on grace and salvation. While the two fold idea of salvation or a different kingdom salvation is problematic, the basis of Christ's merit and imputed righteousness are Calvinist beliefs.
BrWilson look at all these different sects of Protestantism - all heretics and fighting amongst themselves. It’s really sad. If you actually want to seek Christ you need to go back to the original deposit of faith.
Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ. Respectfully/humbly…with hope of edification (Ephesians 4), it seems the ‘plan b’ claim mentioned in the video may be either a false dilemma or a misunderstanding of dispensationalist, traditionalist, provisionist, etc. scriptural understanding/teachings at the least. Note: some, if not many, consider the ‘dispensationalist’ attribute/label for their theology (a literal view of scripture, except where figurative symbolism is explicitly implied, such as in parables/etc.) derogatory, some completely deny the label (while holding to the same or similar understandings of scripture), and some wear their particular dispensational, etc. label as a badge of honor. I noticed that most of these believers in Christ prefer the names/label(s): Scripture/Bible-believer and/or believer in Jesus Christ = why many of the regular church assembly locations/congregations are named - “insert name” Bible Church, Free Grace Church, Grace Bible Church, Grace “insert name” Church, etc. and some are Evangelical or Baptist (also adhere to some of the Baptist and/or ana-baptist [distinct from catholicism and the reformed and lutheran wings of the reformation] teachings/doctrines/statements of faith as a synopsis/list of their major points/understanding of scripture) as well. I observed/heard from a wide-range/many traditional Acts 2 (Charles Ryrie, etc.) and classic Acts 2 Pauline dispensationalists (Andy Woods, Kevin Thompson from Beyond the Fundamentals, etc.); mid-Acts (Acts 9 & Acts 13; Ted Lindblad); and Acts 28 (late-Acts; David Reid [Columbus Bible Church], etc.)…what is commonly referred to as ‘hyper’ or ‘ultra’-dispensationalist teachers/preachers and none that I have observed/heard say that Christ’s death for our sins, burial, and resurrection according to the scriptures; the gospel (1 Corinthians 15); etc. was/is ‘plan b’. Same for The Berean Call (Dave Hunt, T.A. McMahon, et al), the Grace Evangelical Society (GES), John Ankerberg (from the John Ankerberg Show), Moody Church, etc. and many other Evangelical, Baptist (Landmark Baptists from IAMKOINE .org), etc. church preachers/teachers, elders, members, etc. Many do not identify themselves as dispensationalists at all, but hold to scriptural understandings of different ‘dispensations’ or different distinctions for different eras/times throughout scripture. They commonly believe/state that all scripture is “for us” [in other words, all believe 2 Timothy 3:16 and that all believers should read and understand all of scripture] and some is “to us” [in other words, we need to completely hear, understand, believe, and preach the gospel; unfulfilled prophecy is important to know to understand for the rapture & Christ’s imminent return; for and example of what does not apply today: the church/body of Christ today is not told to build an ark, sacrifice animals, etc.]…so most read/understand/exegete/etc. all of scripture (including prophecy) literally and try to focus on what we should do/how we should act in this age/today. Some believe that the apostle Paul’s [apostle to the gentiles] epistles are ‘to us’ and that all of scripture is ‘for us’. I would also add that almost all teachings and sermons that I have observed/heard from ‘dispensationalists’ (unless specifically addressing issues such as church history, etc.) are heavily focused in/on scripture (you need to have your Bible open and reading to keep up with most, if not all) vice some sort of story or a few verses of scripture and then 30-40 minutes of dialogue on unrelated current issues, etc. They all seem to preach/teach the word of God, the gospel of our salvation (basic outline: clearly preached from 1 Corinthians 15; defined in Romans 1:15-17; order of salvation outlined in Ephesians 1:12-14; sin problem found in Romans 3:23, James 2:10, 1 John 1:8, Romans 6:23, etc.; what must we do to be saved - Acts 10:30-31, Romans 10:8-17, Romans 9:19-31, 1 John 5:13, etc.) and that God offers salvation & everlasting life as a free gift by God’s grace alone through faith alone in/of Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9) unto all and upon all them that believe the gospel [in Jesus Christ]: John 3:16, John 12:32, John 14:6, Romans 5:1-21, Ephesians 1:12-14, Galatians 3:21-29, Ephesians 4:4-6, 2 Timothy 1:8-14, 1 Corinthians 3:5-15, etc. Aside from what I have found/observed/heard from the Acts 28:28 ‘ultra’-dispensationalists, the main difference within the ‘dispensationalist’ camps [i.e. traditional Acts 2, classic Acts 2 Pauline dispensationalist, Acts 9 & Acts 13, etc.] is the question of ‘when’ Paul began his gentile apostleship (of course there are other differences as well…same as within any other denomination - all have their internal differences). The main difference between ‘dispensationalists’ [and those who hold to the same basic ideas] and protestant [Calvinist/reformed, Armenius, etc.] ‘covenant theologians’ is that ‘dispensationalists’ use a literal (vice spiritual/mystical) exegesis of all scripture (unless implied otherwise in scripture, such as parables, etc.)…specifically, prophecy in scripture (or eschatology = 25-30% of scripture). Many of the stark differences between ‘dispensationalist’ and ‘covenant theology’ can be found between the different scriptural understandings of eschatology; Israel and the church/body of Christ; and, occasionally, the gospel/salvation (soteriology). Note: interestingly, many of the aforementioned Protestant believers hold to at least 7 distinct dispensations as well. For example, many reformed hold to the following ‘dispensations’: innocence (before the fall), conscience (Adam to Noah), government (Noah to Babel), promise (Abraham to Moses), law (Moses to Christ), grace (Pentecost to the rapture), and the millennium. Additionally, ‘covenant theology’ has a counterpart - ‘new covenant theology’. Thus, there are variations of and within ‘covenant theology’ as well, thus, most sort through scripture in some way…at a minimum - Old Testament & New Testament. Passages of scripture, such as God’s promise to Abraham [in Genesis] and Jacob, for example: Genesis 28:12-15 KJV were fulfilled in Joshua 21:43-45 & 1 Kings 4:21, however, the Ezekiel 38, etc. future land prophecies for Israel and the Isaiah 49 prophecy of salvation for the gentiles - to the ends of the earth through Christ [Isaiah 49:6 KJV] to the following passage of scripture from the apostle Paul’s [apostle to the gentiles] letter to the saints in Rome seem to show a clear distinction between God’s chosen people and the church/body of Christ: Romans 11:1-36 KJV Hope these observations help…I am still ever learning scripture as well. All of the thanks, praise, and glory be to God! God be with you and love in Christ always!
The great error is this video denying Eph 3:1-10. Paul was given the dispensation of grace 2000 years ago and Paul wasn't even dead before satan had his ministers doing the same thing being done here. Mixing false doctrine with Paul's dispensation and to say dispensation is a new thing. Dispensation aren't new and neither are satans tactics as you can see in this video. Without Pauls dispensation nobody could be saved today if you don’t understand why it’s important. This is why satan hates is so much and is using people to discredit it.
Who was not going to set up his kingdom at his first coming but he will at his second coming. We are able to live spiritually to a certain degree on the kingdom level now. One day he will come back and rule and reign.
I agree that dispensationalism has a fundamental flaw in maintaining a wide gap between Israel and the church. Yet, a distinction is to be made between Israel as a nation and saved Israelites who are part of the church. Neither should the church be confused with Israel as some kind of replacement for it. The church is NOT "spiritual Israel," nor the bride, nor the "new Israel" or some such nonsense. That would merely be accepting an alternate popular belief system!
Great video, and some good sound teaching, brother. I just wanted to encourage you to keep up the good work of exposing the error and deception that is so rampant in the churches today. For over 1800 years people had a good understanding of the scriptures, Dispensationalism has done nothing but cause confusion since it's inception in the early 1800's. John Nelson Darby, known as the "father" of dispensationalism, introduced this new doctrine in the 1830's. This was NOT taught PRIOR to 1830's.
Dr. Chafer's monumental work - Systematic Theology ( 8 volumes) is a classic. I embrace dispensational thought and in all honesty feel that it is the best approach to use when dealing with explanations of texts. But for those who are Covenant theologians I say, " We are all together as one being saved by the precious blood of our Saviour Jesus Christ ".
@zacqt Rom 2:28 is indeed referring to Jews and not Gentiles. Paul throughout Romans contrasts Jews and Gentiles. Here he is distinguishing between spiritual (believing or Christian Jews) and non-believing Christ-rejecting Jews. The same distinction is being made in Revelation.
Ephesians 2:19 mentions "the household of God" with which us Gentiles in the body of Christ are joined. I understand this as a broader grouping which includes all saints of all ages. So there is definitely a continuity to be observed along with finer distinctions. Those identified with the body of Christ by the one baptism 1Corinthians 12:13 and Ephesians 4:5 are unique.
This idea that dispensational teaching has anything to do with homosexual rights movement is just nuts. That is just not true of any dispensationalist I know.
@@jeremydwalsh Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
Q. Scofield claimed a D.D. his name - which school did he attend? A.:NONE - would not the school love to claim him as an alumni? The gospel by which we are saved in the tribulation PER SCOFIELD Is by works and keeping of the law by refusing the mark of the beast and dying for the faith when the dispensation of grace is closed Paul says saved by grace Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
When ignorant men rail against "RIGHTLY Dividing" the word. And use this phrase "plan B" it shows incredible ignorance of God's omniscience(all knowing) They think how ignorant men think. And not how a "all knowing God" thinks.
Sir your being a novice.... the church the "bride of christ" ie Israel was saved & made righteous by keeping the LAW.... but we today the "body of Christ" are saved by the death burial and resurrection of jesus, so this distinction shows 2 gospels See Gal 2:7, these to totally different groups have different locations... one to occupy the heavens & the other the earth... nevermind! See 1corithians 14:38 👋🏽
2 Gospels? You need to ask the Holy Spirit to be your mentor before you read the Word of God. There's ONE GOSPEL. Just because Peter ministered to the Jews and Paul ministered to the Gentiles doesn't make 2 Gospels! Lol. They both preached the same Gospel!
I think if we spent more time praying for people that are lost and worry about loved ones that are going to hell then worrying about what everybody thinks is going to happen in revelations. all I know I'm saved by the blood I'm going to spend eternity with my Lord Jesus Christ. There are a lot of things in the Bible that can be interpreted different but the one that's pretty clear is John 3:16 I wish more people would have a burden for the lost and to get the lost in the church getting the word to them that we can get this country back where it should be one nation under God.
He's telling you what dispensationalism actually teaches and then he's explaining how that cannot be true. One good example is the pre-trip teachers do not like to bring up Matthew 2143 since you would like some scripture. Jesus said the kingdom of God is taken away from you and given to another nation. That word nation there in the Greek is ethnics and if you look it up in the Strongs concordance you will see that it means Gentile Pagan and heathen. So Jesus said he was taking the kingdom of God away from those who brought forth no fruit and given it to another nation. Entire chapters Matthew chapter 21, 22,23, and much of 24 talk about the same thing. Jesus gave warning after warning after warning that the 490 years of Daniel chapter 9 was coming to an end. Because they had no fruit the kingdom was taken away from them. But what dispensationalists like to do is play word games they will say kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven are two different things which is not the case. Both Phrases are interchangeable. Just like God created or God made in genesis it's the same thing. Basically this man whoever he is was telling the dispensationalist what they actually believe if they know their doctrine and if they don't know the doctrine too well then they don't understand what he saying.
Hello Fly Fall, No I am not with Grace and Truth but I occasionally watch Jimmy. He is a very articulate man and knows the Greek very well. I did start a RUclips channel that debunks almost everything about Dispensationalism. I only have a few videos up so far. I was a dispensationalist for 30 years until I put my bible college off to the side and actually did my own study on the teaching. It falls short logically and Biblically. It is full of contradictions also. I like Jimmy but I don't hold his interpretive view on predestination. Jesus died for ALL before there was one convert (John 3:16; for WHOSOEVER WILL) not just the bride. 1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe. You cannot be the Saviour of all men if you didn't die for them or pay the propitiation for their sin by shedding of your blood. "Specially of those that believe" = they received the free gift offered to them of salvation by grace through faith. The others that Jesus died for rejected that gift. Always stick to plain verses on any subject you study. that is the only thing I think I disagree with him on. Would you like to join my new channel Pre-Trib Rapture: True or False? I also have a newsletter that goes out to ministers and lay people called The Sacred Cowtipper. Let me know and God Bless.
Not a dispensationalist however, the Kingdom of God is definitely not the church. The Kingdom of God is the rule and dominion of God. The church is the people of God and the instrument of Gods rule (Kingdom) in the word.
Looking at Galatians 6:15-16, Paul minimizes the distinction between circumcised and uncircumcised within the context of the "new creation," but he still recognizes the distinction here! He is not calling the church "the Israel of God" here. He is rather recognizing the Israel of God (believing Israel) along with the uncircumcision (believing Gentiles) as parts of the "new creation." Eph 2:16 ...that he might reconcile both (believing Israel and believing Gentiles) unto God in one body...
Matt 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Instead of explaining what dispensationalist believe, why not explain what you believe?
Sorry I can't agree with this mans view,However it's not a salvation issue thank God. However when you start mixing law and Grace together doesn't mix The law was to the Jews grace was to the church. Which where we are now. Old testament was to the Jews New Testament Paul's message is to the church now. But when you read the New Testament Old Testament together that's when the confusion begins God's promises in the Old Testament are not for us now we have a new promise ( or covenant). At least that's how I see it. Let's just love each other & get through this thing called life !
Howard Manley this is also known as "another Gospel" (that salvation can come apart from the blood of Jesus Christ). How do you know where God stands on the matter?
And what about the "churches" in Acts 19:37? Are we to understand these as "Christian" churches? What about the "ecclesia" in verse 32 and 39. The term church must be qualified or different churches will be confused and conflated. I am not denying the continuity of the different groups of believers all of which will eventually be under Christ one way or another, but their distinctness must also be recognized as well.
Romans 4, Galatians 3&4, 2 Corinthians 3 all prove that Paul was not a Dispensationalist. Paul was emphatic that all the promises are in Christ yea and amen - 2 Cor 1:20. The two men that stood with the apostles after Christ's resurrection SAID JUST AS He left, he will come in like manner. And so why do we think that Jesus will come and snatch the church away without touching the ground? I am so shocked that so-called theologians cant explain 1 Thess 4 well. It is a sad reality. Thank you for this teaching
Actually, he says Paul says the opposite of what you say. Ephesians 3:1-9, "For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward: 3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words, 4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ) 5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit; 6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel: 7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power. 8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; 9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
When CHRIST said my kingdom is not of this world means no sin. All fulfillment of biblical prophecy with Israel, is the Abrahamic covenant and Davidic covenant. Its literal land on.earth. With a literal Messiah king on a literal throne in shiloh of Jerusalem(Dan 2:44) He will rule with a rod of Iron. Israel will be "born again" . During the exclusive earthly ministry of Christ to the government(nation) of Israel. Those who sat in Moses seat had to believe, that Christ was King of the jews. Israel lost their political independence in 606BC because of the govenment's collective wickedness and national unbelief. The times of the gentiles politically started in 606BC it will end when Jesus Chris physically returns to set up His kingdom on this earth. Acording to prophecy Israel will be God's instrumentality to bring the gentiles back to God. They were given up in Genesis chapter 11. Abraham is called in chapter 12. Israel lost(temporarily) the favored spiritual relationship they had with God in Acts 7 when they nationally blasphemy the Holy Spirit and murder Stephen. A new apostle is raised up PAUL. The times of the gentiles(spiritually) starts. God interrupts the prophetic dealings with Israel. Romans chapter 11 explains this clearly!!!!!!! Read Ephesians 3:1-21(kjv) also read Colossians 1:24-29(kjv) also read Romans 16:25-26(kjv) The bible is clear. This foolish old man denies Biblical prophecy concerning Jesus Christ being king of the jews- a minister of the circumcision to confirm the promises made by the fathers(prophets) This guy doing the video chooses to be ignorant. Paul said let him be ignorant.
this guy totally misunderstands. the need for redemption is a perfect example of God providing a way even though we as humans blow it. Adam and Eve had to leave the Garden as a result of their choices. but clearly God foresaw such a fall and had the Cross preplanned out.
We both agree on the deity of Jesus Christ and the Trinity. That verse was NOT cited as proof of the Trinity to refute Arius and others who denied the Trinity. I never find it being used by the church fathers againist arianism or modalism. Bruce M. Metzer showed that verse is not found in the originals. The one text that was found in was 20 years old when it was shown to Erasmus.
Your assumptions are offensive. I don’t believe all Roman Catholics follow the pope anymore than I believe that the Jews are the only peoples God cares about. If God wanted us to be religious we would all be Jews. I don’t believe in replacement theology which means that God is done with the Jews. I do believe in time and according to Ezekiel 26 that God will give man a new heart. Not a heart of stone but a heart of flesh. That is not reality now. That promise is in the future. And plan a has always been the restoration and reconciliation of man to God. If you don’t believe in dispensationalism then there hasn’t been any distinguishing between the past and the future. Start putting people in a box! It would appear that you are promoting your own religious perspectives. I hope you’re not a part of the frozen chosen. Religion keeps more people out of Heaven than atheism. One of your errors is that there is no distinguishing difference between Old Testament and New Testament believers. Since God is Just and true, there will be rewards for obedience and faith. When you divide opinions with other opinions there is division. In the millennial kingdom people who have survived the tribulation will enter into that time. That means that their sin comes into the kingdom with them. Not to mention that the millennial kingdom Hass to come to an end when Satan is loosed after the thousand years. There will be no sin in the kingdom of heaven. There will be no Satan in the kingdom of heaven. There will be no end in the kingdom of heaven. Have you looked at your own errors in mixing the kingdom of God in the millennial reign and the kingdomOf heaven that last forever and ever?
Ah! but John Nelson Darby is not the originator of Dispensationlism, He borrow those ideas from his contemporary fellow Sir Edward Denny who discovered "The Jubilee Principle" how God measured Time an excellent exegesis of how God measrues time in the Old Testament but Edward Denny took it to far, applying to Israel which did not exist at the time -predicting the resurgence of Israel in the 1930's, if you want to know where the 2000 year parenthesis idea came from, it came from Edward Denny.
God is omniscient and knew Messiah would be rejected. “Was it not necessary for Christ to suffer these things and enter into His glory? Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.” Calvary was not a plan B.
You quote old testament prophecy and leave this out. "Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began". Romans 16:25
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. Peter knew it too But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Paul agrees with the whole word (Torah) Peter warns that those unlearned and unskilled in the Torah would twist Scriptures and lead many to lawlessness (Torah-less-ness). If Paul preached against Torah/law of God he would have been a false prophet Deuteronomy 13.
@@christinehogue9477 And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the Lord. And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. And the Lord said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the Lord. Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel. Zechariah 11:10-14 God set the terms to break covenant and it was broken, surprised how few know about this prophecy.
Darby speaks on already established sound doctrine, and the unlearned opposition fabricates the fake news that Dispensations and doctrine relevant to them, began with him. FAIL!
@@biblehistoryscience3530 Were still waiting for you to show us the 100 proofs you said that you had that Darby didn't invent the dispen-satan doctrine
hi Jeff, I've asked many dispensationalists who before 1825 taught dispensationalism. We know Darby got some of his ideas previously from conferences that he went to probably from Pastor Edward Irving John Hooper and a couple anonymous people. So Darby didn't create dispensationalism all by himself that is true. he definitely got some of his ideas from Irving, Hooper and a few others. Anything before that I've yet to see anybody share that information with me. Now there's been things tied to futurism by three different catholic jesuits -Alcazar Bellarmine and lacunza from the mid to late 1500s and then into the late 1700s. They taught some futurism type ideas. Some of the early church fathers taught premillennialism but that has absolutely nothing to do with pre-trip rapture or dispensationalism. So what pre-1825 information do you have that others have taught on dispensationalism? I know some say Morgan Edwards which is false as I've read Morgan Edwards is "or what he talked about on end times and he was not a pre-trib rapture dispensationalist. If you read his writings he was mid trip rapture at best. Others mention pseudo-ephraim. he was not a ephraim the Syrian of 400 AD. pseudo-a frame was written somewhere between 700 and 1000 A.D.. And if you download pseudo- ephraim and read it at best he was mid trip rapture. So a lot of these guys parrot or hear something and didn't research things themselves. One guy claimed that he had 100 sources before 1830 that taught dispensationalism and a pre-trip rapture. I called him out on it and asked for just one of those quotes. He cannot give me one quote. Either the man mistakenly thought premillennialism was the same as dispensationalism or he was just parroting what somebody told him and didn't have a clue what he was talking about.
E. Garcia hey what are you doing on here.? Yeah I see Mr. Bible history science still hasn't given us the 100 proofs not even one. I wanna know why it doesn't bother these people that three jesuits, the enemies of the Protestant reformation had something to do with developing the modern futurist doctrine. A lot of these dispensational list are also cessation us which makes me wonder how they can except Margaret give me a happy meal McDonald's vision and prophetic utterance and pretend that isn't how a lot of this came about.
We dont know what School would or would not do. Thats speculation. I agree he did not attend Seminary but that still in itself would not discredit him. At the Reformation protestants had to start their own theological seminaries. Likewise the Western Church at first did not have seminaries either. None of the apostles had formal theological seminary either. They were taught directly by Jesus and thats it.
Anyone who wants to get past the superficial doctrine of Dispensationalism an delve into scholarly exegesis should read the writings of Philip Mauro. It will take some time to work through everything that he has written but it's worth the time.
NT Greek scholars state that1 Jn 5:7 was not found in the most earliest copies. That footnote is found in various translations like the NIV. It was a carry over from the Latin Bible that was used by the RCC. This has nothing to do with dispensationalism since Protestant theologians generally agree with this.
Jesus said, Saying, If you had known, even you, at least in this your day, the things which belong to your peace! but now they are hid from your eyes." Evidently John there was something they could have had given to them that day that they Rejected him, but they lost it because they did and their house was left desolate. The Church is Not plan B but PART of the Whole plan because He knew from the foundation of the world that they would reject him. It's only plan B in theory in these preachers mind because that is all speculation on their part as some f them said. But there again Christ did say...IF YOU HAD KNOWN This DAY, so blindness in part came on them. But God knew this was the way it would happen as he did about Judas. That's like saying what if Judas had not betrayed Jesus then the store keeper would have never been able to sell Judas that rope...lol. But the store keeper did because Judas did.
Elsewhere, Paul minimizes the difference between Jew and Gentile to make a point, but in 1Corinthians 12:13 (and elsewhere as well) he maintains the distinction between Jew and Gentile. Romans 11 does NOT say that the Gentiles are graft into Israel! Israel is rather broke off of the olive tree and the Gentiles are grafted onto the olive tree! The olive tree is not Israel. The opportunity is salvation, not Israelite citizenship.
Eschatology I try and keep away from, so many different interpretations and strong opinions, that can cause needless divisions. But one thing for sure the CROSS was not plan B, and it is always has been will be be faith alone by God's grace alone.From Calvinism to Hyper dispensationalism , no free will to mans free will trumps Gods, two huge ditches.
+Wayne Crook I find it interesting that even in the writings of the ante-nicene fathers, we see the same divisions in eschatology we see in the modern day. www.etsjets.org/files/JETS-PDFs/29/29-2/29-2-pp163-177_JETS.pdf In the area of soteriology, we agree 100%. In prophecy, it seems, there will always be dis-agreement among God's people (The Israel of God).
@bocajjp1 But were we not created originally in a right relationship with the father? Adam and Eve were in the garden with God in a relationship. It is not until Genesis 3 that Jesus as the savior becomes known. If you say that God knew before hand what was going to happen and made preparations therefore it is not a "plan B" then wouldn't any situation fall under that logic? There would never be a "plan B" with God because all of his plans are for-known. The rules only apply sometimes?
All I gotta say is Joel 2 and Acts 1 & 2. The Apostles believed in a literal kingdom to come, the Angels told them Jesus would return much like they saw him go, and Jesus himself did not deny the kingdom being restored to Israel, but said that it is an appointed time of which only the Father knows. Great errors in dispensationalism? More like great errors in not taking the Jesus seriously.
@strattgatt If you're a dispensationalist, you just don't see the scriptures the same as mainstream Christians unfortunately, but I accept your differences. I'm not one to call someone out & say they're wrong, as I am a servant to your Master also. But, I will say that dispensationalists just doesn't exhault God up to his deserved thrown. There's a reason why most Bible scholars are not dispensationalists though, and that has to do with flawed hermeneutics--its not right to divide God's Word!
1. How am I heretic? 2. I never once said, "It's all coincidence." 3. How did I read scripture out of context? Jesus was a Jew. 4. How did I skip over Luke 19?
We r going to be caught up the same time Jesus raises the dead in Him 1 thess 4.. and Jesus said that he will raise up those who believe in Him on the last day (final day) so there can't be 2 last day...the rapture and ressurection happens on the last day!
Watch the video "Genesis of Dispensational Theology" to see how the new doctrine began. Share it with others to speak the truth in love to our Brothers and Sisters. Feel free to copy, or edit it as you see fit.
This blows his arguments apart. I have studied formally and otherwise, eschatology since '72. I'm well versed in the various schools. A lot has come to light as to the history of dispensationalism since I first began to study it. Today, it is incontrovertible with all the manuscript evidence we now have as to the earliest dates of the Church. If you are a serious student, perhaps you will be open to listening to some of the evidenced being discussed by Dr. Watson, a historian, not a theologian. ruclips.net/video/m05p2TVVU-E/видео.html
No one knows the day nor the hour, only the father,,the only thing that matters is that you are diligent in your relationship with Jesus christ and that you are following Jesus teachings to the letter that you may be accounted worthy to be in that number when it does take place,,
Are you sure that is an accurate definition of Arminianism? I believe all are drawn and given a choice to choose Messiah. But that doesn’t mean YHVH’s plan can be altered.
If man has freewill in salvation, then God doesn't. That is blasphemy and ridiculous. How many Christians reject the sovereignty of God as if their dead spirit can not only do good, and overrule God but even access faith. No one can access and take faith from God. Faith is a gift, so faith has to be received. Not taken
First, Dispensationalists believe that the bible must be interpreted in it's "historical grammatical context." I.E., if an O.T. Prophet said "temple" he meant temple, if he said "land" me meant land. This was the same mistake that the Jews Jesus's day made; they expected an earthly/physical kingdom and when Jesus did not meet their criteria, they killed him! But Jesus the NT writers "spiritualized" OT texts (e.g. the coming of Elija whom Jesus said was John the Baptist, NOT actually Elijah.
Thanks for the kind words - and I attended one of their Bible Colleges where Scofield and his notes are almost elevated to the level of scripture. To those who like Scofield? Look up 1 John 5:7 and read the verses and the "O" footnote and see if you agree - that this trinity verse does not belong in the Bible and is not in the old (catholic" manuscripts.
You are ignoring the times God repented of things He was about to do. Like when He was about to destroy Israel at Mt Sinai and Moses begged for their lives and God did not destroy them. You could argue that the concept of Sovereignty are in the Bible but the word Sovereign is not in the KJV Bible. Free will, choice, God repenting of punishment He was about to carry out (Nineveh), election, predestination, foreknowledge are all Biblical concepts. Why can’t people accept all of them?
But is that actually what they believe? Israel kept the law before the new covenant and no one was saved by keeping the law at that time. Why would you think that dispos believe in works based salvation simply because the law is brought back into the picture during the millennium? Maybe some obscure group does but the vast majority of dispos do not. Dispos believe Gal 1:9. This is mostly a straw man argument.
the is no difference in between the church in Matt. - 1st half of Acts and Israel because the members of that church are members of the nation Israel. As time progressed and the Apostle Paul starts his ministry he will not go into a church where Christ was named because the only church that existed was the one Christ built upon Judisim and faith in Jesus being the Messiah. It was different than the church that a masterbuilder of the church named Paul was building in which he laid Christ as the foundation and belief in His dying for the sins each of us has, his burial and resurrection. Romans 15:20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation: 1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
The cross was a plan B from the beginning was it not? What if Adam and Eve had not sinned? God told them to not sin. But they did. The cross even then was a plan B.
My ex-pastor was a dispensation pioneer BEFORE he departed into partial preterism then annihilationism then Trinitarian universalism. That pastor lost the heart to tell loved ones @ funeral processions that their beloved unbeliever just might be in hell so he decided to defend universalsim. Yes I perceive that too often the fruit of the doctrine of the dispensational pioneer pastors I have known resembles Darby in their exclusivity, brittleness & isolation. They do too often tend to sit in their studies deliver their messages & avoid interaction & dialogue & they have a team of buffer personalities to protect them from being questioned. Colonel RB Thieme was like that & so are a few other doctrinal dispensational men I know. They do tend to be dogmatic & isolate & avoid questions just like Darby.
All I can say is that I sincerely hope you understand biblical salvation better than you understand the material you are "teaching," which is to say you do not understand it at all. At least then you'll make it to heaven. When you read the Bible, try asking the Holy Spirit to open the Scriptures to you. You have in no way done that, which is why God's Word is a brick wall to you.
Lot of quotes of men, without dismantling the scriptures that support their claims! Especially James vs Paul, how can anybody with common sense believe James and Paul are saying the same thing about faith, both use Abraham as their proof. Without a doubt a different viewpoint from each. James says faith without works is dead and Paul says to him that worketh not his faith is counted for righteousness...Not the same! Why? Because James is writing to Jews (The 12 Tribes) of Israel. James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting. If I come to your house and read your mail does that mean I have to pay your bills? No, that's for you.....I can however learn from it.....Anyway! Jesus said he came not but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel! Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. Not to the Gentiles....because the Old Testament promises weren't made to the Gentiles. Paul said Jesus came to fulfill those promises Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: There's sooo many verses that support dispensational truths, prior to that understanding I was extremely confused by what Paul said and what the other apostles said, and so was Peter.... If Peter and Paul were on the same page preaching the same thing, then why does Peter say this at the end of his life? 2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction. Point being Peter said theres some hard things to understand about what apostle Paul is teaching and preaching. Why would Peter say that if they're all preaching/teaching the same thing.....The Jews were still keeping the Law. Different program from Paul, but its all about understanding rightly dividing...….Jews were keeping the Law and Paul is preaching you don't have to! Look at Acts 21, Paul has arrived at Jerusalem and meets with James and others. Paul then begins to tell James how much success his ministry has had with the Gentiles, then James turns around and tells Paul how much success his ministry has had amongst the Jews and that they all are zealous (excited, passionate) about keeping the Law. Acts 21:17-20 And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly. 18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present. 19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry. 20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law: Whats even more interesting is this is the start of Paul's end. Paul then gets asked by James paraphrased; btw Paul, its being said that you're telling the Jews that they don't have to be circumcised nor keep the Law, that they (Jews) are to forsake Moses. Is this true? We're going to have to come together and talk about this. Acts 21:21-22 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs. 22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come. Keep in mind this is prolly 56 AD (20 plus years after the crucifixion) WOW! Jews still keeping the Law! Paul is going to eventually die over this....and preaching Christ crucified plus nothing else! Nonetheless, It boils down to the fact that everybody (practically) wants to be self righteous....and its Jesus' righteousness that makes us anything, not ours! He done it all! We just have to believe it! So much more I could write, but theres not enough space......Going to the Gentiles is not plan "B"...…...God knows everything! Seems like every argument against dispensationalist always say something about a plan B..... I don't put my hope in what men say, but what sayeth the word of God! Quit with this plan B thing. Also, If you're going to dispute dispensational teaching, do it on a verses by verse case....start with these few!
@strattgatt You're exactly right, God is Omniscient (All Knowing), NEVER any plan B's with Him. Though Adam had free will to choose, God knew what that choice would be beforehand. Nevertheless, the Word says that "all things were created through Him and for Him" Col 1.16. So, Jesus, from the beginning, is the focus of the Father's love. That's why the beginning vrs. in Genesis calls God Elohim Alef-Tav (God Alpha & Omega, A-to-Z).
In awaiting, with too much anticipation, the messiah to come in association with a ‘King’ of Israel, it strikes me that there is a great danger of deception should a false messiah appear there.
@zacqt Christ did say He WOULD build His church did He not? Again, I agree all redemption is through Jesus Christ, there is continuity in that. But Scripture has made distinctions: inner vs outer court. 1Co 10:5 KJV 5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. So not all of them (most all except 3) were not saved. Those before Christ came were rewarded for their faith and looked forward to reward. But they did not enjoy what members have.
Show me it in the most earliest NT Greek copies if it were in the originals ? The KJV is not inspired Scripture its a mere translations from the original languages. I personally have no problem with that but I am honest enough to state its not found in early copies of it. Dr. James White deals with that KJV Onlyism issue.
Most of the world who hears what the Bible says is confused why Satan is let out of the pit after 1000 years. Then you come along and tell us basically that everything that the apostle Paul preached was error. Jesus was a Jew and so we’re all of the 12 apostles. Jesus went to the temple as did the 12 apostles. Jesus never approached the Gentile nations. Jesus sent A Jew named Saul to become an apostle to the Gentiles. You referred many times to the writings of man but completely ignore all of the books written by the apostle Paul. Except one reference to Romans eight. If all we had was Matthew Mark Luke and John and the old testament there really would not be that grace that you think you profess. Jesus will reconcile all of humanity. You’re ignoring the writings of the apostle Paul is your error. If you do not preach the full counsel of the Bible you are in violation of adding or subtracting from Scripture. That’s subtraction could cause you loss Beyond measure. We are called to worship in spirit and truth. It is not about your doctrine or mine. Jesus did not die on the cross so you or I could have our own Religion and feel smug about it.
Mr. Crass, where do you get off on calling another Christian an idiot? Did the Holy Spirit tell you to act in such a manner? I think not. You should probably spend some time at the alter.
When I first became a believer I was spoon fed Dispensational Eschatology. I really thought that this was absolute truth. However, the more I read the Bible, the more I realized how bankrupt it really was... If one reads the Bible, contextually, while allowing Scripture to interpret Scripture, one will discover that there are "Great Errors in Dispensational Eschatology!"
Thank you Brother for a great teaching.All that dispensationalism is a big joke.It is very sad that all American theology is 2 inch thick in depth and 3000 miles wide.
The gospel taught by Peter and the Lord in his earthly ministry was without the cross. Nobody could be saved in Matthew-John by the gospel of the cross, which is the only gospel that brings salvation to all men today. God is not bringing in his kingdom to Israel today, but he is ministering the good news of Christ crucified and resurrected for the sins of all men. A gospel without the cross is no gospel to lost sinners. The only gospel that saves today requires the cross of Christ.
Salvation is only on the basis of the death, blood, and resurrection of Christ for your sins.
This is the only gospel that saves today.
There is more than one gospel in the Bible.
When you see the gospel is the death, burial and resurrection of Christ, you will better see it missing from Deu.6:5, Matt.3:2, John 3:16, Acts 2:38
@@ishiftfocus7295 if you read all of acts 2, you see the death, burial, resurrection, and remission of sins. It’s all there.
I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Galatians 1:6-9 - KJV
For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 3:11 - KJV
@@ishiftfocus7295 there is no other gospel. All people, even those before Christ, were saved by God because of their faith in the finished work of the messiah. Hebrews 11 is a testament to this. The cross of Christ conquered sin and death, and secureed the Resurrection of the Body for all time and all people who had and all inevitably will confess Christ as Lord. There is and never was no other salvation.
Weird. I experienced the exact opposite.
The natural branch was cut off and we are grafted in. My head spins as there is so much division in the church. Modern versions have corrupted everything. Eschatology is VERY important and yes we must get it right. This was 9 years ago. Anyone still here? Kind of like Daniel's 70th week thrown into the future when it was fulfilled by Jesus Christ.
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8)
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
@@SpotterVideo I wish I could copy-paste this comment to my notes so I could spend the time in this Bible study you have presented.
@@andreastarks2780 Please do so.
@@SpotterVideo
Good stuff spotter
@@lavieenrose5954
New Covenant Whole Gospel:
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
Watch the RUclips videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
By the way I'm a Jew if there's anyone on planet Earth who will understand what it feels like to be under the law it would be me I was raised my whole life to follow the Old Testament you have no idea the joy and the peace that came over me the day I trust in Jesus Christ as my savior do not rest the scriptures to your own destruction
narrow then you are no longer a ‘jew’ you are now a Christ follower (Christian) (whatjewsbelieve.org)
2nd Timothy 2 verse 15...You ARE a Jew, and will always be a Jew in the flesh. And there's nothing wrong with that. You're also a born-again believer in Jesus Christ. The guy preaching in this video is a false prophet. If you want to understand why Dispensationalism is the correct way to rightly divide scripture, check out a RUclips channel called Born Again Barbarian.
@@martinmummert5614 according to scripture I'm not born again we aren't born again in this dispensation we are made into a member of the body of Christ where there is no difference between Jew and Gentile in the body of Christ. But Israel is what needs to be born again that's what scriptures talking about when it mentions being born again the verses are always talking about Israel. And I do believe in dispensational theology this video that I quoted on was four years ago I don't even remember this video I'll have to watch the video again to give you my updated thoughts on it but I'm a mid Acts dispensationalist I believe entrusting alone in the death bear on resurrection of Jesus Christ not counting on any physical works in the flesh that I do in order to attain to Salvation. Salvation is by grace through faith without works. But I'll watch this video again in order to see what he was talking about it was four years ago so.
@@martinmummert5614 okay I remember this guy now. There is a difference between the church the body of Christ and the kingdom church. Because the Jews have to endure till the end of the tribulation. Whereas the body of Christ we don't have to endure anything salvation is by grace through faith at this time we live in there are no works we do today in order to get salvation. Salvation is by grace through faith without works. Since I'm a Jew and I have study Torah since I was a child you should know. We Jews never went to heaven when we died we went to a place called Abraham's bosom the term bosom in scripture refers to a place of safety. Salvation for us in the Old Testament was not to Heaven it was to a place of safety called Abraham's bosom. Because of this we worked our Salvation AR salvation was a work we were never promised heaven we were under a covenant theology meaning the Covenant we made was specifically with God it had nothing to do with you Gentiles you Gentiles in time past violated God's word when he told you to go all over the world you created a Tower of Babel in Rebellion to God and you ignored everything God told you. Because of this salvation was given to the Jews to the first Jew Abraham. After Abraham was given salvation he had to get circumsized in his flesh in order to get Redemption this is because circumcision there is a law of circumcision where us Jews had to be circumcised or we would be cast out. This was not up for debate the fact that a lot of you Gentiles today believe that you are following the same thing and Pryor books as you are today is because most of you guys have no intellectual Integrity you literally follow what people tell you and you don't actually study anything this is because most of you guys have no Integrity as intellectuals especially when it comes to reading books. Again I'm not trying to be mean to you I'm making this as a broad assertion based on all the research I've done on the subject. I will be making a video tonight on this exact video this guy is making here or I'm going to break down how dispensationalism is biblical and where in the Bible is spoken now it'll take me awhile to make it but we'll see if I get it out tonight or not. Just understand there is a very big difference between the body of Christ and the Kingdom Church
@@jcismyall no I'm still a Jew I'm still by Blood a Jew being made a member of the body of Christ by believe in the gospel doesn't make me any less of a Jew today as the day when I was born. When you believe the gospel you are sealed with the Holy Spirit God no longer makes a distinction between Jew Gentile Bond or free male or female. It's not that I'm no longer a Jew it's that God is no longer making the distinction as me as a Jew in the body of Christ for today. I'm still a Jew he's just not looking at me as a Jew that's it. Spiritually I am a member of his body physically I'm still just as a Jew as I was the day before yesterday and this very instant. It doesn't matter if you are a Jew or a gentile your position is now in Christ therefore you are no longer considered foreigners or aliens. You're no longer considered a Jew or a gentile because spiritually you are placed into something called the body of Christ where there is no distinction between sexes or racial groups like us Jews
Thank You very much posting. Real Truth. Whole life I believed in this dispensational theology lie but God opened my eyes and helped me to understand the truth. "There is one body and one Spirit,.. one Lord, one FAITH, one baptism; ..one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all." Ephe 4:4-6. "There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." Gal 3:28. God bless you.
Thank you Brother for a great teaching.All that dispensationalism is a big joke.It is very sad that all American theology is 2 inch thick in depth and 3000 miles wide.
The dispensationalist’s literal interpretation of Revelation’s sacred allegorical picture language is sheer hermeneutical folly. ✔️
Praise God for teaching me how to rightly divide!! Alleluia!
Who is really teaching “Replacement Theology” ?
(Did God fulfill His promises to the Jewish people at Calvary? Matthew 26:28, John 19:30)
The advocates of modern Dispensational Theology often accuse others of promoting “Replacement Theology”, or some may even say “Antisemitism”. What does the Bible say about their accusations?
1. Who is replacing Christ as the seed of Abraham through which all the families of the Earth would be blessed in Genesis 12:3, with Abraham’s modern descendants? (See Galatians 3:8)
2. Who is replacing the one people of God in John 10:16, with two peoples of God ?
3. Who is replacing the one seed (Christ) in Galatians 3:16, with the many seeds?
4. Who is replacing the children of the promise in Romans 9:8, with the children of the flesh?
5. Who is replacing the faithful “remnant” of Israelites in Romans 11:1-5, with the Baal worshipers?
6. Who is replacing the word "so" in Romans 11:26, with the word "then"?
7. Who is attempting to replace the Church made up of all races of people, with one made up only of Gentiles? Why did Peter address the crowd as “all the house of Israel” in Acts 2:36, when about 3,000 Israelites accepted Christ on the Day of Pentecost?
8. Based on Hebrews 9:15, the New Covenant cannot be separated from the Messiah’s death. Is the covenant in Daniel 9:27 connected to the Messiah’s death in Daniel 9:26. Is the covenant with the “many” in Daniel 9:27 the same covenant with the “many” in Matthew 26:28? If it is, some have replaced the New Covenant in Daniel 9:27 with a future covenant made by an antichrist not found in Daniel chapter 9. (See the 1599 Geneva Bible used by the Pilgrims.)
9. Those promoting the Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology often accuse others of teaching “Replacement Theology”, but are they the masters of it? Are they promoting a form of Dual Covenant Theology based on race? (See “genealogies” in Titus 3:9) Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
10. Watch the RUclips video “Genesis of Dispensational Theology” to see the origin of this man-made doctrine, which is less than 200 years old. It was brought to the United States about the time of the Civil War by John Nelson Darby. The doctrine was later incorporated into the notes of the Scofield Reference Bible, and then spread through much of the modern Church.
Dallas Theological Seminary in Dallas Texas was created in part to promote John Darby’s Two Peoples of God doctrine of Dispensational Theology.
Lewis Sperry Chafer, the first president of Dallas Theological, had the following to say about the difference between Israel and the Church:
“The dispensationalist believes that throughout the ages God is pursuing two distinct purposes: one related to the earth with earthly people and earthly objectives involved which is Judaism; while the other is related to heaven with heavenly people and heavenly objectives involved, which is Christianity.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer, Dispensationalism (Dallas, Seminary Press, 1936), p. 107.
Chafer states that, ‘Israel is an eternal nation, heir to an eternal land, with an eternal kingdom, on which David rules from an eternal throne,’ that is, on earth and distinct from the church who will be in heaven.”
Lewis Sperry Chafer. Systematic Theology. 1975. Vol. IV. pp. 315-323.
John Walvoord, another prominent voice of Dallas Theological stated…
"...it is an article of normative dispensational belief that the boundaries of the land promised to Abraham and his descendants from the Nile to the Euphrates will be literally instituted and that Jesus Christ will return to a literal and theocratic Jewish kingdom centred on a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem. In such a scheme the Church on earth is relegated to the status of a parenthesis.”
John F. Walvoord, The Rapture Question.1979, p. 25
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Are there two peoples of God in John 10:16? (See also 1 John 2:22-23, 2 John 1:7-11.)
What is the land promise to the Old Testament Saints in Hebrews 11:15-16?
Based on 2 Peter 3:10-13, is this earth “eternal”? Will it be replaced by a new earth?
Based on Acts 2:36, and Romans 9:6-8, and Romans 11:1-5, and Hebrews 12:22-24, and James 1:1-3, can faithful Israel and the Church be separated into two different groups?
Who is the New Covenant promised to in Jeremiah 31:31-34, and Hebrews 8:6-13?
Will modern Orthodox Jews ever be saved outside of the New Covenant Church?
"rightly divide" is a dispensationalist's motto... If you are a dispensationalist, you wrongly divide... the 7 dispensations are a scam... You need to ask yourself, what kind of authority has the logic behind the 7 dispensations? I will help you on this. If you study briefly on the internet what are INDUCTIVE and ABDUCTIVE REASONINGS, you will very quickly realize that dispensationalism stems from 7 INDUCTIVE REASONINGS, and some abductive reasonings too... Those reasonings have ZERO WEIGHT against a simple verse that would contradict them... ZERO. Go to "OUR ENDTIME WALK" here on RUclips, what I'm telling you i explained there...
12:30 even Paul in Ephesians said that the Church (or Christ work among the Gentiles) was hidden as a mystery to the olden saints and NOW revealed (as John says In ACTS 15:16) to the saints. Though some Saints still can't see the distinction yet as this video clearly reveals.
so why then did Peter say in 1peter 1:2 that we the gentiles were elected??? or in Eph 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Eph 1:4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
Eph 1:5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, maybe learn to read the full scripture! also did not Stephen when he was giving his defense in Acts call the children of Israel the Church in the desert??
@@erniekleinsasser35 1 Peter 1:2 is referring to the "strangers scattered" (1Peter 1:1) in Gentile nations. It doesn't make sense that gentiles would be strangers in gentile nations. Peter is referencing the Jews as the Elect in 1:2.
This is the mystery he is talking about:
“Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:” (Ephesians 1:9-10, KJV)
The 100+ dislikes are probably all one Dispensationalist. Lolololol!
That's kind of unfai, I had no clue I was dispensationalist. I'm seriously reconsidering my theology now.
Ha ha, cheers & welcome
Knowing the Word of God is said enables discerning good from evil, that also the fruit identifies the tree... studying this Scofield - Darby origin is amazing that some do not see much error both within the Dispensational teaching (and) teacher's.
Stawman arguments is this. Mirepresenting your opponent views and defeating those inaccurate Statements which this guy does.
Right on brother!!
Best guide for determining Biblical truth: "if it's popular, it sucks." Dispensationalism is the popular view. "Nuff said.
Thankfully, modern resources have taken care of everything on his list. He just needs to keep up with it if he's going to publicly address these issues. Scofield is absolutely correct; the OT is all about the Jewish nation; the church, the age of Jew and Gentile as co-equals, is unforeseen. Many if not all of his objections to these issues stem from his need to project the church age characteristics onto all other ages under the belief that all ages are the same as ours. The Scripture simply does not confirm this projection. It's a simple fix, but can be real embarrassing to those who have submitted their views publicly in this format. As a side, his statement that dispenstationalists "are normally Arminian" is historically a blatant falsehood. Most classic dispenstational scholars have all been calvinist presbyterians, anglicans, and other reformed. Again, he just needs to read up on that aspect.
He turns to Romans 8 for conditions of tribulation saints? Romans is the thesis of the church. It was already established the church is gone by that time, bc Rev 4 is the rapture before the wrath is unleashed. The context of the tribulation is proselytizing to Judaism once again since a post-rapture world leaves only messianic Judaism left. This is the equivalent of someone reading the OT law into the church: its a very simple switch to an appropriate use of Scripture that's needed, that's all.
The Church is not plan B but it is Part of the plan as James told the Apostles in the book of Acts. Once Gods dealing with the world of gathering out the fullest of the Gentiles is complete He will return to fulfill the promises made to Israel as Paul says He will in Romans 9-11.
now go to romans 9:13 then matthew 15:24 then ezeckial 37: Revelations 13....he that lead in captivity shall go into captivity...rev 2:9,,,rev3:9
Good teaching on a tricky subject.
Those people that push the heresy of Dispensationalism on going to be greatly disappointed to where they will end up, they are in my prayers.
I believe that the Lord is going to come to take up the saints including His Heavenly Bride, the Church to be with Him forever before the time of Jacobs trouble. I also believe that He died for our sins. Having believed and confessed that I am sinner and He died for them, and that He is Lord, I believe that I am born again and sealed with the Holy Spirit. So do you think I am still going to be disappointed? Why?
“a person is a JEW WHO IS ONE INWARDLY..CIrcumcision of the heart” Rom2:29
"The PROMISE were spoken to Abraham & to his SEED. Scripture does NOT SAY say "and to SEEDS," meaning many people, but "and to your seed," MEANING ONE PERSON, who is CHRIST""If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's SEED, and heirs according to THE PROMISE"Gal3:16,29 "In other words, IT IS NOT THE CHILDREN BY PHYSICAL DESCENT who are God's children.."Rom9:8 "the Gentiles are heirs together with Israel..." Eph3:6
Boy is this guy, God bless him, going to be shocked at the rapture. No dispensationalist believes in a “plan b.”
Correct. He will be ashamed when kneeling on his face before Jesus Christ.
sir, you insinuate that all dispensationalists are Arminian and/or that all Arminians are dispensationalists. You are either willfully ignorant, or just plain so. Furthermore, your characterization of Arminisnism is a straw man argument, born of your doctrinally-imposed presuppositionalism. You should simply have stayed in the "debunking dispensationalism" mode. Soteriology is obviously NOT your forte...
- dispensationalism is part of the end time deception.
The church was never plan b... the lamb was slain from the foundation of the world. The cross was never an afterthought. Nor is there salvation outside of the cross and the blood of Christ.
Jlarios06 Go a little further here because “the church” is not including protestants. Protestantism is a new religion that is a few hundred years old. A heresy that split the church of Christ. If you really do want to come to Jesus you need to go back to the original deposit of faith. You take the authority of the Bible from the Council of Nicaea, so take their authority on what they thought and believed as well.
ApothecaryMama Bear I disagree. There is only authority in the written word. The apostles doctrine. Paul said it best when he said to reject any other doctrine other than what had already been taught by the disciples/apostles of Christ. Nicean creed is not fully aligned with the the apostles so that’s not the ultimate authority. Protestants place their faith in Christ alone. That biblical.
He came unto His own, but His own received Him not. But as many as received Him, to them gave He power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on His Name. John 1:9, 10. Yes, Jesus came to be received by His people, the Jews. The hierarchy of the Jews knew O.T. prophecies of the coming Messiah, but totally rejected Jesus, the King of the Jews. God foreknew that His people would reject His Son. . . .like Cain rejected God's plan of a sacrificial lamb. . . .was angered. . . .and killed his brother Abel, because Abel had been obedient to God's command. This is picture of what the ruling Jews did to Jesus. The Sanhedrin turned the Jewish crowd against Jesus the day He was crucified. . . . .and God the Father knew before hand that ALL OF THIS would happen. Therefore, it WAS God's will that when His Son was rejected and crucified, that God took the "lemons" and turned them into "lemonade." Jesus died for all men, and His blood was, and is, efficacious to all who believed, and all who believe today. I totally reject this man's attempt to discredit some of the greatest Bible teachings of dispensations, the Kingdom, the Church, and more importantly, God's perfect will, foreknowledge, sovereignty, grace, and mercy, to every man who has or will ever live on this Earth. To God be the glory, great things He hath done! Stephenville, TX, Dec. 9, 2015
Ron Ray Amen brother, Couldn't have said it any better. .. Replacement theology is so quick to call Dispensationalism "Antisemitic " and there arguments come from man made "theory, philosophy, traditional and true antisemitic beliefs "... It's so sad that people follow men instead or just reading The Word Of God KJV ... I have only heard a few wild insane "brothers " teach "a plan b "... and they are very few ....it's very simple to read and understand The Word of God with 3 principles "To Whom, To Why & When " is it spoken..for years I struggled with James ( Grace & Works) till I actually read James 1:1-2 TO THE 12 TRIBES OF ISREAL! !!!
Thank you, Ron and Chefand. I have a word of appreciation for the host of this video for faithfully quoting Darby, Scofield, Larkins and O'Hair, which, as I see it, only reinforced their loyalty to the scripture. This video can actually be a study material to promote dispensationalism. Blessings.
Do you all beleive the mandate that a man must be born again was a message to the Jews and will be the message to the Jews?
Hey Boy sit down , there's no error i 2 Timothy @ fat boy.
Stop reading the 66 Books , please STUDY the Book boy!! And stop quoting men, the Bible our Manuel is the Final authority boy. You are NOT approve onto God Yet boy.
Ephesians @ AKJV that we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
2 Timothy @ Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)
15 Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
You just running your mouth boy --- All I hearing is heresy boy, so go to gym and do something better.
Israel, as a national entity with covenant privilege, is set aside as Paul explains in Romans until they are regathered by God Himself into the future kingdom and restored to covenant status. While the new covenant is vested in Christ and He is free to make executive decisions to distribute new covenant blessings as He sees fit, everyone is only able to access God and salvation via God's grace. No one is in covenant relationship with God today because we are enjoying God's grace.
Dispensationalism is an earthly fiction suited for an earthly minded, professed Christian.
Although Im really grateful for this video, do realize that pre-millenialism is not necessarily hyper dispensational. I am pre-millenial and hold none of these views that mid-acts or hyper dispensationalism hold to. The atoning work of Christ was plan A from the beginning to the Jew first and also to the Greek. However, around the 40 minute mark, some of these quotes from dispensationalists are essentially the same as most Calvinist teaching on grace and salvation. While the two fold idea of salvation or a different kingdom salvation is problematic, the basis of Christ's merit and imputed righteousness are Calvinist beliefs.
BrWilson look at all these different sects of Protestantism - all heretics and fighting amongst themselves. It’s really sad. If you actually want to seek Christ you need to go back to the original deposit of faith.
I always thought it was simply understanding what romans 4 is saying.....
Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from our Lord Jesus Christ.
Respectfully/humbly…with hope of edification (Ephesians 4), it seems the ‘plan b’ claim mentioned in the video may be either a false dilemma or a misunderstanding of dispensationalist, traditionalist, provisionist, etc. scriptural understanding/teachings at the least.
Note: some, if not many, consider the ‘dispensationalist’ attribute/label for their theology (a literal view of scripture, except where figurative symbolism is explicitly implied, such as in parables/etc.) derogatory, some completely deny the label (while holding to the same or similar understandings of scripture), and some wear their particular dispensational, etc. label as a badge of honor. I noticed that most of these believers in Christ prefer the names/label(s): Scripture/Bible-believer and/or believer in Jesus Christ = why many of the regular church assembly locations/congregations are named - “insert name” Bible Church, Free Grace Church, Grace Bible Church, Grace “insert name” Church, etc. and some are Evangelical or Baptist (also adhere to some of the Baptist and/or ana-baptist [distinct from catholicism and the reformed and lutheran wings of the reformation] teachings/doctrines/statements of faith as a synopsis/list of their major points/understanding of scripture) as well.
I observed/heard from a wide-range/many traditional Acts 2 (Charles Ryrie, etc.) and classic Acts 2 Pauline dispensationalists (Andy Woods, Kevin Thompson from Beyond the Fundamentals, etc.); mid-Acts (Acts 9 & Acts 13; Ted Lindblad); and Acts 28 (late-Acts; David Reid [Columbus Bible Church], etc.)…what is commonly referred to as ‘hyper’ or ‘ultra’-dispensationalist teachers/preachers and none that I have observed/heard say that Christ’s death for our sins, burial, and resurrection according to the scriptures; the gospel (1 Corinthians 15); etc. was/is ‘plan b’.
Same for The Berean Call (Dave Hunt, T.A. McMahon, et al), the Grace Evangelical Society (GES), John Ankerberg (from the John Ankerberg Show), Moody Church, etc. and many other Evangelical, Baptist (Landmark Baptists from IAMKOINE .org), etc. church preachers/teachers, elders, members, etc. Many do not identify themselves as dispensationalists at all, but hold to scriptural understandings of different ‘dispensations’ or different distinctions for different eras/times throughout scripture. They commonly believe/state that all scripture is “for us” [in other words, all believe 2 Timothy 3:16 and that all believers should read and understand all of scripture] and some is “to us” [in other words, we need to completely hear, understand, believe, and preach the gospel; unfulfilled prophecy is important to know to understand for the rapture & Christ’s imminent return; for and example of what does not apply today: the church/body of Christ today is not told to build an ark, sacrifice animals, etc.]…so most read/understand/exegete/etc. all of scripture (including prophecy) literally and try to focus on what we should do/how we should act in this age/today. Some believe that the apostle Paul’s [apostle to the gentiles] epistles are ‘to us’ and that all of scripture is ‘for us’.
I would also add that almost all teachings and sermons that I have observed/heard from ‘dispensationalists’ (unless specifically addressing issues such as church history, etc.) are heavily focused in/on scripture (you need to have your Bible open and reading to keep up with most, if not all) vice some sort of story or a few verses of scripture and then 30-40 minutes of dialogue on unrelated current issues, etc.
They all seem to preach/teach the word of God, the gospel of our salvation (basic outline: clearly preached from 1 Corinthians 15; defined in Romans 1:15-17; order of salvation outlined in Ephesians 1:12-14; sin problem found in Romans 3:23, James 2:10, 1 John 1:8, Romans 6:23, etc.; what must we do to be saved - Acts 10:30-31, Romans 10:8-17, Romans 9:19-31, 1 John 5:13, etc.) and that God offers salvation & everlasting life as a free gift by God’s grace alone through faith alone in/of Christ alone (Ephesians 2:8-9) unto all and upon all them that believe the gospel [in Jesus Christ]: John 3:16, John 12:32, John 14:6, Romans 5:1-21, Ephesians 1:12-14, Galatians 3:21-29, Ephesians 4:4-6, 2 Timothy 1:8-14, 1 Corinthians 3:5-15, etc.
Aside from what I have found/observed/heard from the Acts 28:28 ‘ultra’-dispensationalists, the main difference within the ‘dispensationalist’ camps [i.e. traditional Acts 2, classic Acts 2 Pauline dispensationalist, Acts 9 & Acts 13, etc.] is the question of ‘when’ Paul began his gentile apostleship (of course there are other differences as well…same as within any other denomination - all have their internal differences).
The main difference between ‘dispensationalists’ [and those who hold to the same basic ideas] and protestant [Calvinist/reformed, Armenius, etc.] ‘covenant theologians’ is that ‘dispensationalists’ use a literal (vice spiritual/mystical) exegesis of all scripture (unless implied otherwise in scripture, such as parables, etc.)…specifically, prophecy in scripture (or eschatology = 25-30% of scripture). Many of the stark differences between ‘dispensationalist’ and ‘covenant theology’ can be found between the different scriptural understandings of eschatology; Israel and the church/body of Christ; and, occasionally, the gospel/salvation (soteriology).
Note: interestingly, many of the aforementioned Protestant believers hold to at least 7 distinct dispensations as well. For example, many reformed hold to the following ‘dispensations’: innocence (before the fall), conscience (Adam to Noah), government (Noah to Babel), promise (Abraham to Moses), law (Moses to Christ), grace (Pentecost to the rapture), and the millennium. Additionally, ‘covenant theology’ has a counterpart - ‘new covenant theology’. Thus, there are variations of and within ‘covenant theology’ as well, thus, most sort through scripture in some way…at a minimum - Old Testament & New Testament.
Passages of scripture, such as God’s promise to Abraham [in Genesis] and Jacob, for example: Genesis 28:12-15 KJV were fulfilled in Joshua 21:43-45 & 1 Kings 4:21, however, the Ezekiel 38, etc. future land prophecies for Israel and the Isaiah 49 prophecy of salvation for the gentiles - to the ends of the earth through Christ [Isaiah 49:6 KJV] to the following passage of scripture from the apostle Paul’s [apostle to the gentiles] letter to the saints in Rome seem to show a clear distinction between God’s chosen people and the church/body of Christ: Romans 11:1-36 KJV
Hope these observations help…I am still ever learning scripture as well.
All of the thanks, praise, and glory be to God!
God be with you and love in Christ always!
The great error is this video denying Eph 3:1-10. Paul was given the dispensation of grace 2000 years ago and Paul wasn't even dead before satan had his ministers doing the same thing being done here. Mixing false doctrine with Paul's dispensation and to say dispensation is a new thing. Dispensation aren't new and neither are satans tactics as you can see in this video. Without Pauls dispensation nobody could be saved today if you don’t understand why it’s important. This is why satan hates is so much and is using people to discredit it.
Who was not going to set up his kingdom at his first coming but he will at his second coming. We are able to live spiritually to a certain degree on the kingdom level now. One day he will come back and rule and reign.
I agree that dispensationalism has a fundamental flaw in maintaining a wide gap between Israel and the church. Yet, a distinction is to be made between Israel as a nation and saved Israelites who are part of the church. Neither should the church be confused with Israel as some kind of replacement for it. The church is NOT "spiritual Israel," nor the bride, nor the "new Israel" or some such nonsense. That would merely be accepting an alternate popular belief system!
Rev. 5: 9-10. ON THE EARTH! the blood washed saints shall rule on the earth.
Great video, and some good sound teaching, brother. I just wanted to encourage you to keep up the good work of exposing the error and deception that is so rampant in the churches today. For over 1800 years people had a good understanding of the scriptures, Dispensationalism has done nothing but cause confusion since it's inception in the early 1800's. John Nelson Darby, known as the "father" of dispensationalism, introduced this new doctrine in the 1830's. This was NOT taught PRIOR to 1830's.
Dr. Chafer's monumental work - Systematic Theology ( 8 volumes) is a classic. I embrace dispensational thought and in all honesty feel that it is the best approach to use when dealing with explanations of texts. But for those who are Covenant theologians I say, " We are all together as one being saved by the precious blood of our Saviour Jesus Christ ".
***** Amen brother !
Thank you, Randy.
@zacqt Rom 2:28 is indeed referring to Jews and not Gentiles. Paul throughout Romans contrasts Jews and Gentiles. Here he is distinguishing between spiritual (believing or Christian Jews) and non-believing Christ-rejecting Jews. The same distinction is being made in Revelation.
Ephesians 2:19 mentions "the household of God" with which us Gentiles in the body of Christ are joined. I understand this as a broader grouping which includes all saints of all ages. So there is definitely a continuity to be observed along with finer distinctions. Those identified with the body of Christ by the one baptism 1Corinthians 12:13 and Ephesians 4:5 are unique.
This idea that dispensational teaching has anything to do with homosexual rights movement is just nuts.
That is just not true of any dispensationalist I know.
@@jeremydwalsh you want to explain why rather than just making a statement without any backing.
@@jeremydwalsh When you tell someone how to get saved what do you tell them?
@@jeremydwalsh how is your soul saved? What is the gospel of Christ?
@@jeremydwalsh Romans 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
@@jeremydwalsh were Peter and the apostles looking forward to the cross?
Romans 8 has nothing to do with Revelation. Is this replacement theology?
Q. Scofield claimed a D.D. his name - which school did he attend?
A.:NONE - would not the school love to claim him as an alumni?
The gospel by which we are saved in the tribulation PER SCOFIELD Is by works and keeping of the law by refusing the mark of the beast and dying for the faith when the dispensation of grace is closed
Paul says saved by grace
Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.
When ignorant men rail against "RIGHTLY Dividing" the word. And use this phrase "plan B" it shows incredible ignorance of God's omniscience(all knowing) They think how ignorant men think. And not how a "all knowing God" thinks.
Sir your being a novice.... the church the "bride of christ" ie Israel was saved & made righteous by keeping the LAW.... but we today the "body of Christ" are saved by the death burial and resurrection of jesus, so this distinction shows 2 gospels
See Gal 2:7, these to totally different groups have different locations... one to occupy the heavens & the other the earth... nevermind! See 1corithians 14:38 👋🏽
2 Gospels? You need to ask the Holy Spirit to be your mentor before you read the Word of God. There's ONE GOSPEL. Just because Peter ministered to the Jews and Paul ministered to the Gentiles doesn't make 2 Gospels! Lol. They both preached the same Gospel!
I think if we spent more time praying for people that are lost and worry about loved ones that are going to hell then worrying about what everybody thinks is going to happen in revelations. all I know I'm saved by the blood I'm going to spend eternity with my Lord Jesus Christ. There are a lot of things in the Bible that can be interpreted different but the one that's pretty clear is John 3:16 I wish more people would have a burden for the lost and to get the lost in the church getting the word to them that we can get this country back where it should be one nation under God.
ronnie riddle the milk of the word is important. What about the strong meat?
Amen brother!
WOW I can tell you don"t rightly divide you haven" quoted one verse that backs up anything you say.
I was thinking the same thing!
He's telling you what dispensationalism actually teaches and then he's explaining how that cannot be true. One good example is the pre-trip teachers do not like to bring up Matthew 2143 since you would like some scripture. Jesus said the kingdom of God is taken away from you and given to another nation. That word nation there in the Greek is ethnics and if you look it up in the Strongs concordance you will see that it means Gentile Pagan and heathen. So Jesus said he was taking the kingdom of God away from those who brought forth no fruit and given it to another nation. Entire chapters Matthew chapter 21, 22,23, and much of 24 talk about the same thing. Jesus gave warning after warning after warning that the 490 years of Daniel chapter 9 was coming to an end. Because they had no fruit the kingdom was taken away from them. But what dispensationalists like to do is play word games they will say kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven are two different things which is not the case. Both Phrases are interchangeable. Just like God created or God made in genesis it's the same thing. Basically this man whoever he is was telling the dispensationalist what they actually believe if they know their doctrine and if they don't know the doctrine too well then they don't understand what he saying.
You should debate dr. Thomas ICEagesis. LOL?
@@sacredcowtipper1378 Are you from Grace and Truth ministry?! If so, man Jim Brown really set things straight don’t he?
Hello Fly Fall,
No I am not with Grace and Truth but I occasionally watch Jimmy. He is a very articulate man and knows the Greek very well. I did start a RUclips channel that debunks almost everything about Dispensationalism. I only have a few videos up so far. I was a dispensationalist for 30 years until I put my bible college off to the side and actually did my own study on the teaching. It falls short logically and Biblically. It is full of contradictions also.
I like Jimmy but I don't hold his interpretive view on predestination. Jesus died for ALL before there was one convert (John 3:16; for WHOSOEVER WILL) not just the bride.
1Ti 4:10 For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.
You cannot be the Saviour of all men if you didn't die for them or pay the propitiation for their sin by shedding of your blood.
"Specially of those that believe" = they received the free gift offered to them of salvation by grace through faith. The others that Jesus died for rejected that gift. Always stick to plain verses on any subject you study.
that is the only thing I think I disagree with him on. Would you like to join my new channel Pre-Trib Rapture: True or False? I also have a newsletter that goes out to ministers and lay people called The Sacred Cowtipper. Let me know and God Bless.
Not a dispensationalist however, the Kingdom of God is definitely not the church. The Kingdom of God is the rule and dominion of God. The church is the people of God and the instrument of Gods rule (Kingdom) in the word.
Looking at Galatians 6:15-16, Paul minimizes the distinction between circumcised and uncircumcised within the context of the "new creation," but he still recognizes the distinction here! He is not calling the church "the Israel of God" here. He is rather recognizing the Israel of God (believing Israel) along with the uncircumcision (believing Gentiles) as parts of the "new creation." Eph 2:16 ...that he might reconcile both (believing Israel and believing Gentiles) unto God in one body...
Wow this guy is good at twisting things
Plain and simple, this man is a FOOL!
If you call your brother a fool, you are in danger of Hell fire. Be careful.
He IS a fool.
He is actually promoting dispensationalism. Thank you, Eschatology247, for uploading this.
@@Mike65809 not in this dispensation.
Matt 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: 6. But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Instead of explaining what dispensationalist believe, why not explain what you believe?
Sorry I can't agree with this mans view,However it's not a salvation issue thank God. However when you start mixing law and Grace together doesn't mix The law was to the Jews grace was to the church. Which where we are now. Old testament was to the Jews New Testament Paul's message is to the church now. But when you read the New Testament Old Testament together that's when the confusion begins God's promises in the Old Testament are not for us now we have a new promise ( or covenant). At least that's how I see it. Let's just love each other & get through this thing called life !
Howard Manley this is also known as "another Gospel" (that salvation can come apart from the blood of Jesus Christ). How do you know where God stands on the matter?
Are Jews forbidden from the same salvation you have?
I for one do not hold to Calvinist doctrine or to dispensationalism. Calvinism vs Arminianism is a moot point in my opinion.
And what about the "churches" in Acts 19:37? Are we to understand these as "Christian" churches? What about the "ecclesia" in verse 32 and 39. The term church must be qualified or different churches will be confused and conflated. I am not denying the continuity of the different groups of believers all of which will eventually be under Christ one way or another, but their distinctness must also be recognized as well.
Romans 4, Galatians 3&4, 2 Corinthians 3 all prove that Paul was not a Dispensationalist. Paul was emphatic that all the promises are in Christ yea and amen - 2 Cor 1:20. The two men that stood with the apostles after Christ's resurrection SAID JUST AS He left, he will come in like manner. And so why do we think that Jesus will come and snatch the church away without touching the ground? I am so shocked that so-called theologians cant explain 1 Thess 4 well. It is a sad reality.
Thank you for this teaching
Actually, he says Paul says the opposite of what you say.
Ephesians 3:1-9, "For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:
3 How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
5 Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
6 That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
7 Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.
8 Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:"
When CHRIST said my kingdom is not of this world means no sin. All fulfillment of biblical prophecy with Israel, is the Abrahamic covenant and Davidic covenant. Its literal land on.earth. With a literal Messiah king on a literal throne in shiloh of Jerusalem(Dan 2:44) He will rule with a rod of Iron. Israel will be "born again" . During the exclusive earthly ministry of Christ to the government(nation) of Israel. Those who sat in Moses seat had to believe, that Christ was King of the jews. Israel lost their political independence in 606BC because of the govenment's collective wickedness and national unbelief. The times of the gentiles politically started in 606BC it will end when Jesus Chris physically returns to set up His kingdom on this earth. Acording to prophecy Israel will be God's instrumentality to bring the gentiles back to God. They were given up in Genesis chapter 11. Abraham is called in chapter 12. Israel lost(temporarily) the favored spiritual relationship they had with God in Acts 7 when they nationally blasphemy the Holy Spirit and murder Stephen. A new apostle is raised up PAUL. The times of the gentiles(spiritually) starts. God interrupts the prophetic dealings with Israel. Romans chapter 11 explains this clearly!!!!!!! Read Ephesians 3:1-21(kjv) also read Colossians 1:24-29(kjv) also read Romans 16:25-26(kjv) The bible is clear. This foolish old man denies Biblical prophecy concerning Jesus Christ being king of the jews- a minister of the circumcision to confirm the promises made by the fathers(prophets) This guy doing the video chooses to be ignorant. Paul said let him be ignorant.
this guy totally misunderstands. the need for redemption is a perfect example of God providing a way even though we as humans blow it. Adam and Eve had to leave the Garden as a result of their choices. but clearly God foresaw such a fall and had the Cross preplanned out.
We both agree on the deity of Jesus Christ and the Trinity. That verse was NOT cited as proof of the Trinity to refute Arius and others who denied the Trinity. I never find it being used by the church fathers againist arianism or modalism. Bruce M. Metzer showed that verse is not found in the originals. The one text that was found in was 20 years old when it was shown to Erasmus.
The truth is somewhere in between extreme dispensationalism and covenant theology
2nd Timothy 2:15!
Your assumptions are offensive. I don’t believe all Roman Catholics follow the pope anymore than I believe that the Jews are the only peoples God cares about. If God wanted us to be religious we would all be Jews. I don’t believe in replacement theology which means that God is done with the Jews. I do believe in time and according to Ezekiel 26 that God will give man a new heart. Not a heart of stone but a heart of flesh. That is not reality now. That promise is in the future. And plan a has always been the restoration and reconciliation of man to God. If you don’t believe in dispensationalism then there hasn’t been any distinguishing between the past and the future. Start putting people in a box! It would appear that you are promoting your own religious perspectives. I hope you’re not a part of the frozen chosen. Religion keeps more people out of Heaven than atheism. One of your errors is that there is no distinguishing difference between Old Testament and New Testament believers. Since God is Just and true, there will be rewards for obedience and faith. When you divide opinions with other opinions there is division. In the millennial kingdom people who have survived the tribulation will enter into that time. That means that their sin comes into the kingdom with them. Not to mention that the millennial kingdom Hass to come to an end when Satan is loosed after the thousand years. There will be no sin in the kingdom of heaven. There will be no Satan in the kingdom of heaven. There will be no end in the kingdom of heaven. Have you looked at your own errors in mixing the kingdom of God in the millennial reign and the kingdomOf heaven that last forever and ever?
Ah! but John Nelson Darby is not the originator of Dispensationlism, He borrow those ideas from his contemporary fellow Sir Edward Denny who discovered "The Jubilee Principle" how God measured Time an excellent exegesis of how God measrues time in the Old Testament but Edward Denny took it to far, applying to Israel which did not exist at the time -predicting the resurgence of Israel in the 1930's, if you want to know where the 2000 year parenthesis idea came from, it came from Edward Denny.
God is omniscient and knew Messiah would be rejected. “Was it not necessary for Christ to suffer these things and enter into His glory? Then beginning with Moses and with all the prophets, He explained to them the things concerning Himself in all the Scriptures.” Calvary was not a plan B.
You quote old testament prophecy and leave this out. "Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began". Romans 16:25
Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. Peter knew it too But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
He never mention one thing about the gospel of paul.
Paul agrees with the whole word (Torah) Peter warns that those unlearned and unskilled in the Torah would twist Scriptures and lead many to lawlessness (Torah-less-ness). If Paul preached against Torah/law of God he would have been a false prophet Deuteronomy 13.
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And I took my staff, even Beauty, and cut it asunder, that I might break my covenant which I had made with all the people. And it was broken in that day: and so the poor of the flock that waited upon me knew that it was the word of the Lord. And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver. And the Lord said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the Lord. Then I cut asunder mine other staff, even Bands, that I might break the brotherhood between Judah and Israel.
Zechariah 11:10-14
God set the terms to break covenant and it was broken, surprised how few know about this prophecy.
"Dispensationalism Before Darby" by William Watson
Darby speaks on already established sound doctrine, and the unlearned opposition fabricates the fake news that Dispensations and doctrine relevant to them, began with him.
FAIL!
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@@biblehistoryscience3530 Were still waiting for you to show us the 100 proofs you said that you had that Darby didn't invent the dispen-satan doctrine
hi Jeff, I've asked many dispensationalists who before 1825 taught dispensationalism. We know Darby got some of his ideas previously from conferences that he went to probably from Pastor Edward Irving John Hooper and a couple anonymous people. So Darby didn't create dispensationalism all by himself that is true. he definitely got some of his ideas from Irving, Hooper and a few others. Anything before that I've yet to see anybody share that information with me. Now there's been things tied to futurism by three different catholic jesuits -Alcazar Bellarmine and lacunza from the mid to late 1500s and then into the late 1700s. They taught some futurism type ideas. Some of the early church fathers taught premillennialism but that has absolutely nothing to do with pre-trip rapture or dispensationalism. So what pre-1825 information do you have that others have taught on dispensationalism? I know some say Morgan Edwards which is false as I've read Morgan Edwards is "or what he talked about on end times and he was not a pre-trib rapture dispensationalist. If you read his writings he was mid trip rapture at best. Others mention pseudo-ephraim. he was not a ephraim the Syrian of 400 AD. pseudo-a frame was written somewhere between 700 and 1000 A.D.. And if you download pseudo- ephraim and read it at best he was mid trip rapture. So a lot of these guys parrot or hear something and didn't research things themselves. One guy claimed that he had 100 sources before 1830 that taught dispensationalism and a pre-trip rapture. I called him out on it and asked for just one of those quotes. He cannot give me one quote. Either the man mistakenly thought premillennialism was the same as dispensationalism or he was just parroting what somebody told him and didn't have a clue what he was talking about.
E. Garcia hey what are you doing on here.? Yeah I see Mr. Bible history science still hasn't given us the 100 proofs not even one. I wanna know why it doesn't bother these people that three jesuits, the enemies of the Protestant reformation had something to do with developing the modern futurist doctrine. A lot of these dispensational list are also cessation us which makes me wonder how they can except Margaret give me a happy meal McDonald's vision and prophetic utterance and pretend that isn't how a lot of this came about.
We dont know what School would or would not do. Thats speculation. I agree he did not attend Seminary but that still in itself would not discredit him. At the Reformation protestants had to start their own theological seminaries. Likewise the Western Church at first did not have seminaries either. None of the apostles had formal theological seminary either. They were taught directly by Jesus and thats it.
Anyone who wants to get past the superficial doctrine of Dispensationalism an delve into scholarly exegesis should read the writings of Philip Mauro. It will take some time to work through everything that he has written but it's worth the time.
NT Greek scholars state that1 Jn 5:7 was not found in the most earliest copies. That footnote is found in various translations like the NIV. It was a carry over from the Latin Bible that was used by the RCC. This has nothing to do with dispensationalism since Protestant theologians generally agree with this.
Jesus said, Saying, If you had known, even you, at least in this your day, the things which belong to your peace! but now they are hid from your eyes." Evidently John there was something they could have had given to them that day that they Rejected him, but they lost it because they did and their house was left desolate. The Church is Not plan B but PART of the Whole plan because He knew from the foundation of the world that they would reject him. It's only plan B in theory in these preachers mind because that is all speculation on their part as some f them said. But there again Christ did say...IF YOU HAD KNOWN This DAY, so blindness in part came on them. But God knew this was the way it would happen as he did about Judas. That's like saying what if Judas had not betrayed Jesus then the store keeper would have never been able to sell Judas that rope...lol. But the store keeper did because Judas did.
Elsewhere, Paul minimizes the difference between Jew and Gentile to make a point, but in 1Corinthians 12:13 (and elsewhere as well) he maintains the distinction between Jew and Gentile. Romans 11 does NOT say that the Gentiles are graft into Israel! Israel is rather broke off of the olive tree and the Gentiles are grafted onto the olive tree! The olive tree is not Israel. The opportunity is salvation, not Israelite citizenship.
It is very sad to see a pastor attacking other believers over matters which have real debate.
Eschatology I try and keep away from, so many different interpretations and strong opinions, that can cause needless divisions. But one thing for sure the CROSS was not plan B, and it is always has been will be be faith alone by God's grace alone.From Calvinism to Hyper dispensationalism , no free will to mans free will trumps Gods, two huge ditches.
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I find it interesting that even in the writings of the ante-nicene fathers, we see the same divisions in eschatology we see in the modern day.
www.etsjets.org/files/JETS-PDFs/29/29-2/29-2-pp163-177_JETS.pdf
In the area of soteriology, we agree 100%.
In prophecy, it seems, there will always be dis-agreement among God's people (The Israel of God).
SymbolsExposeEvil PTL Nothing new under the sun.. thanks for the link.
No hasn't always been faith alone.
@bocajjp1 But were we not created originally in a right relationship with the father? Adam and Eve were in the garden with God in a relationship. It is not until Genesis 3 that Jesus as the savior becomes known. If you say that God knew before hand what was going to happen and made preparations therefore it is not a "plan B" then wouldn't any situation fall under that logic? There would never be a "plan B" with God because all of his plans are for-known. The rules only apply sometimes?
All I gotta say is Joel 2 and Acts 1 & 2. The Apostles believed in a literal kingdom to come, the Angels told them Jesus would return much like they saw him go, and Jesus himself did not deny the kingdom being restored to Israel, but said that it is an appointed time of which only the Father knows. Great errors in dispensationalism? More like great errors in not taking the Jesus seriously.
I thank God for this wonderful exposition. Indceed much of dispensationalism is not only untrue but also heresy. Thanks
@strattgatt If you're a dispensationalist, you just don't see the scriptures the same as mainstream Christians unfortunately, but I accept your differences. I'm not one to call someone out & say they're wrong, as I am a servant to your Master also. But, I will say that dispensationalists just doesn't exhault God up to his deserved thrown. There's a reason why most Bible scholars are not dispensationalists though, and that has to do with flawed hermeneutics--its not right to divide God's Word!
Very Good Video :)
Dispensation is a period of time. There is a time line.
I've never heard anything like that preached anywhere .So who thinks that way?.
People confuse the law of Moses that contained the oridinances and commandments and covenant curses with the law of God.
1. How am I heretic?
2. I never once said, "It's all coincidence."
3. How did I read scripture out of context? Jesus was a Jew.
4. How did I skip over Luke 19?
We r going to be caught up the same time Jesus raises the dead in Him 1 thess 4.. and Jesus said that he will raise up those who believe in Him on the last day (final day) so there can't be 2 last day...the rapture and ressurection happens on the last day!
Watch the video "Genesis of Dispensational Theology" to see how the new doctrine began. Share it with others to speak the truth in love to our Brothers and Sisters.
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This blows his arguments apart. I have studied formally and otherwise, eschatology since '72. I'm well versed in the various schools. A lot has come to light as to the history of dispensationalism since I first began to study it. Today, it is incontrovertible with all the manuscript evidence we now have as to the earliest dates of the Church. If you are a serious student, perhaps you will be open to listening to some of the evidenced being discussed by Dr. Watson, a historian, not a theologian. ruclips.net/video/m05p2TVVU-E/видео.html
No one knows the day nor the hour, only the father,,the only thing that matters is that you are diligent in your relationship with Jesus christ and that you are following Jesus teachings to the letter that you may be accounted worthy to be in that number when it does take place,,
Try reading Fruchtenbaum.
Are you sure that is an accurate definition of Arminianism?
I believe all are drawn and given a choice to choose Messiah. But that doesn’t mean YHVH’s plan can be altered.
If man has freewill in salvation, then God doesn't. That is blasphemy and ridiculous. How many Christians reject the sovereignty of God as if their dead spirit can not only do good, and overrule God but even access faith. No one can access and take faith from God. Faith is a gift, so faith has to be received. Not taken
First, Dispensationalists believe that the bible must be interpreted in it's "historical grammatical context." I.E., if an O.T. Prophet said "temple" he meant temple, if he said "land" me meant land. This was the same mistake that the Jews Jesus's day made; they expected an earthly/physical kingdom and when Jesus did not meet their criteria, they killed him! But Jesus the NT writers "spiritualized" OT texts (e.g. the coming of Elija whom Jesus said was John the Baptist, NOT actually Elijah.
Thanks for the kind words - and I attended one of their Bible Colleges where Scofield and his notes are almost elevated to the level of scripture.
To those who like Scofield?
Look up 1 John 5:7 and read the verses and the "O" footnote and see if you agree - that this trinity verse does not belong in the Bible and is not in the old (catholic" manuscripts.
You are ignoring the times God repented of
things He was about to do. Like when He was about to destroy Israel at Mt Sinai and Moses begged for their lives and God did not destroy them. You could argue that the concept of Sovereignty are in the Bible but the word Sovereign is not in the KJV Bible. Free will, choice, God repenting of punishment He was about to carry out (Nineveh), election, predestination, foreknowledge are all Biblical concepts. Why can’t people accept all of them?
You look like "The Skipper" on Gilligan's Island.
But is that actually what they believe? Israel kept the law before the new covenant and no one was saved by keeping the law at that time. Why would you think that dispos believe in works based salvation simply because the law is brought back into the picture during the millennium? Maybe some obscure group does but the vast majority of dispos do not. Dispos believe Gal 1:9. This is mostly a straw man argument.
Read Rene Girard's "I See Satan Fall Like Lightning", it explains everything.
What does the bible say? Do people call themselves Larkin followers like Baptist do John the Baptist or Methodist follow the teaching of John Wesley?
the is no difference in between the church in Matt. - 1st half of Acts and Israel because the members of that church are members of the nation Israel. As time progressed and the Apostle Paul starts his ministry he will not go into a church where Christ was named because the only church that existed was the one Christ built upon Judisim and faith in Jesus being the Messiah. It was different than the church that a masterbuilder of the church named Paul was building in which he laid Christ as the foundation and belief in His dying for the sins each of us has, his burial and resurrection.
Romans 15:20 Yea, so have I strived to preach the gospel, not where Christ was named, lest I should build upon another man's foundation:
1 Corinthians 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
Paul did not start the church.
The cross was a plan B from the beginning was it not? What if Adam and Eve had not sinned? God told them to not sin. But they did. The cross even then was a plan B.
My ex-pastor was a dispensation pioneer BEFORE he departed into partial preterism then annihilationism then Trinitarian universalism. That pastor lost the heart to tell loved ones @ funeral processions that their beloved unbeliever just might be in hell so he decided to defend universalsim. Yes I perceive that too often the fruit of the doctrine of the dispensational pioneer pastors I have known resembles Darby in their exclusivity, brittleness & isolation. They do too often tend to sit in their studies deliver their messages & avoid interaction & dialogue & they have a team of buffer personalities to protect them from being questioned. Colonel RB Thieme was like that & so are a few other doctrinal dispensational men I know. They do tend to be dogmatic & isolate & avoid questions just like Darby.
You have demonstrated a complete ignorance of Darby and his work, especially his evangelical work. You poor misguided fellow.
All I can say is that I sincerely hope you understand biblical salvation better than you understand the material you are "teaching," which is to say you do not understand it at all. At least then you'll make it to heaven.
When you read the Bible, try asking the Holy Spirit to open the Scriptures to you. You have in no way done that, which is why God's Word is a brick wall to you.
Lot of quotes of men, without dismantling the scriptures that support their claims! Especially James vs Paul, how can anybody with common sense believe James and Paul are saying the same thing about faith, both use Abraham as their proof. Without a doubt a different viewpoint from each.
James says faith without works is dead and Paul says to him that worketh not his faith is counted for righteousness...Not the same! Why? Because James is writing to Jews (The 12 Tribes) of Israel. James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
If I come to your house and read your mail does that mean I have to pay your bills? No, that's for you.....I can however learn from it.....Anyway!
Jesus said he came not but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel! Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Not to the Gentiles....because the Old Testament promises weren't made to the Gentiles.
Paul said Jesus came to fulfill those promises Romans 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
There's sooo many verses that support dispensational truths, prior to that understanding I was extremely confused by what Paul said and what the other apostles said, and so was Peter....
If Peter and Paul were on the same page preaching the same thing, then why does Peter say this at the end of his life? 2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
Point being Peter said theres some hard things to understand about what apostle Paul is teaching and preaching. Why would Peter say that if they're all preaching/teaching the same thing.....The Jews were still keeping the Law. Different program from Paul, but its all about understanding rightly dividing...….Jews were keeping the Law and Paul is preaching you don't have to!
Look at Acts 21, Paul has arrived at Jerusalem and meets with James and others. Paul then begins to tell James how much success his ministry has had with the Gentiles, then James turns around and tells Paul how much success his ministry has had amongst the Jews and that they all are zealous (excited, passionate) about keeping the Law.
Acts 21:17-20 And when we were come to Jerusalem, the brethren received us gladly.
18 And the day following Paul went in with us unto James; and all the elders were present.
19 And when he had saluted them, he declared particularly what things God had wrought among the Gentiles by his ministry.
20 And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord, and said unto him, Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law:
Whats even more interesting is this is the start of Paul's end. Paul then gets asked by James paraphrased; btw Paul, its being said that you're telling the Jews that they don't have to be circumcised nor keep the Law, that they (Jews) are to forsake Moses. Is this true? We're going to have to come together and talk about this. Acts 21:21-22 And they are informed of thee, that thou teachest all the Jews which are among the Gentiles to forsake Moses, saying that they ought not to circumcise their children, neither to walk after the customs.
22 What is it therefore? the multitude must needs come together: for they will hear that thou art come.
Keep in mind this is prolly 56 AD (20 plus years after the crucifixion) WOW! Jews still keeping the Law! Paul is going to eventually die over this....and preaching Christ crucified plus nothing else!
Nonetheless, It boils down to the fact that everybody (practically) wants to be self righteous....and its Jesus' righteousness that makes us anything, not ours! He done it all! We just have to believe it!
So much more I could write, but theres not enough space......Going to the Gentiles is not plan "B"...…...God knows everything! Seems like every argument against dispensationalist always say something about a plan B..... I don't put my hope in what men say, but what sayeth the word of God! Quit with this plan B thing. Also, If you're going to dispute dispensational teaching, do it on a verses by verse case....start with these few!
Excellent comment!
@strattgatt You're exactly right, God is Omniscient (All Knowing), NEVER any plan B's with Him. Though Adam had free will to choose, God knew what that choice would be beforehand. Nevertheless, the Word says that "all things were created through Him and for Him" Col 1.16. So, Jesus, from the beginning, is the focus of the Father's love. That's why the beginning vrs. in Genesis calls God Elohim Alef-Tav (God Alpha & Omega, A-to-Z).
PREACH IT BROTHER!!! AMEN!!!
In awaiting, with too much anticipation, the messiah to come in association with a ‘King’ of Israel, it strikes me that there is a great danger of deception should a false messiah appear there.
@zacqt Christ did say He WOULD build His church did He not?
Again, I agree all redemption is through Jesus Christ, there is continuity in that. But Scripture has made distinctions: inner vs outer court.
1Co 10:5 KJV 5 But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness. So not all of them (most all except 3) were not saved. Those before Christ came were rewarded for their faith and looked forward to reward. But they did not enjoy what members have.
Show me it in the most earliest NT Greek copies if it were in the originals ? The KJV is not inspired Scripture its a mere translations from the original languages. I personally have no problem with that but I am honest enough to state its not found in early copies of it. Dr. James White deals with that KJV Onlyism issue.
Most of the world who hears what the Bible says is confused why Satan is let out of the pit after 1000 years. Then you come along and tell us basically that everything that the apostle Paul preached was error. Jesus was a Jew and so we’re all of the 12 apostles. Jesus went to the temple as did the 12 apostles. Jesus never approached the Gentile nations. Jesus sent A Jew named Saul to become an apostle to the Gentiles. You referred many times to the writings of man but completely ignore all of the books written by the apostle Paul. Except one reference to Romans eight. If all we had was Matthew Mark Luke and John and the old testament there really would not be that grace that you think you profess. Jesus will reconcile all of humanity. You’re ignoring the writings of the apostle Paul is your error. If you do not preach the full counsel of the Bible you are in violation of adding or subtracting from Scripture. That’s subtraction could cause you loss Beyond measure. We are called to worship in spirit and truth. It is not about your doctrine or mine. Jesus did not die on the cross so you or I could have our own Religion and feel smug about it.
Mr. Crass, where do you get off on calling another Christian an idiot? Did the Holy Spirit tell you to act in such a manner? I think not. You should probably spend some time at the alter.
If you say that God swings big doors on small hinges make certain that your small hinges are not so small and fragile that your big doors fall off.