EMF's Captain Schaeffer 1851 Navy Revolver
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- In this video I'll put E.M.F.'s Captain Schaeffer revolver through its paces. This is a modern reproduction of an actual custom Colt 1851 Navy revolver that was manufactured in 1856.
It is made by Pietta, and it features a polished steel finish with laser engraving.
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My father sent me this exact gun today. I received it in the mail about an hour ago. Thank you for the video. Now I know how to load it properly.
This revolver is a beauty. No home is complete without one of these.
I have a 1862 Uberti 36 Police 5.5 inch revolver, but this gun is a beauty , I want one bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My father was taught to shoot in the Army one handed with the 1911 in 1967.
Love the sound of running water in the back ground! Sounds like anything but the shooting range.
I’ve been eyeballing this on their catalog for a while now but no one has any reviews up and I kinda put it to the side.
Now I’m gonna have to buy one, damnit lol
you are going to have a wait. It took almost 5 months to get my pair. Well worth the wait.
you got two hands? Get a pair and double the fun. I did and never looked back.
Mike, you made me burn my fried taters this morning. I put them in the skillet and went and cranked up the TV. There was your video so I started it. I got distracted. Also, your comments on one vs two hands hold is right on. I'm a CAS shooter and was shocked to see almost everyone shooting "traditional" when there is nothing traditional about shooting with two handed grip.
bibbyman2 after having a chain fire on a ASM 51 sheriff where 4 chambers went off I always shoot one handed. If I were holding it with both I'm sure I'd be short a finger or two
bibbyman2 Hey, I just said that! Yes, I was confused by cocking the SA with the off hand. CAS is speed focused and will do anything for it. If you shoot Gunfighter, that is more authentic.
It has been a long time since I heard anyone talking about the nauga. This is, however, the first time I heard about their tusks. Wonderful critters!
Love your black powder videos from making wads to black powder revolver reviews. Always kind, informative, and classy you’ve gotten me hooked on blackpowder revolvers, from knowing absolutely nothing to being very comfortable in my knowledge about what I now know and I just wanted to say Thank You.
Mike,
As my dad,grandfather and great-grandfather told me,do what works best for you and SAFE for you and those around you.
One hand or two, do what you enjoy doing and as the situation dictates. Sometimes, you may not have a choice. I practice both ways and in different body positions. But,again that's my way.
Just enjoy and be safe.
Looks like a great effort from Pietta. Nice to see a short barrel “gussied up” Italian revolver that actually has historical provenance as its basis. Might have to get me one!!
Some poor Naga made the ultimate sacrifice for that gun. 😉
Great piece Mike!
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Steve buckskinner 54 People for the Ethical Treatment of Naugahyde Monsters will boycott this channel. Lol.
laughed out loud.
I agree with you on the load 5 Mike. I also don't carry one in the barrel on my S&W M&P 45.
Now Mike, We all know the only right way to do something is the way someone else says to do it.
Another cracking video from back to the future 👍👍👍👍
I grew up reading Jon Sundras articles in the 80's and built a rifle in his 7JRS wildcat. He used Norma MRP powder in his loads which was not available here in Texas. When I could not find any published data I looked him up in the phone book in PA. talked to him and he worked up a load with IMR-4831 for me and yes called me back to give me the data. Great guy!
Just got one in an auction for about 375 can't wait for it to get here
Spot on on your 5 vs 6 loaded comment! Glad you see that its not a requirement in this day, (for range use anyhow. If the gun dont got safeties the empty is a good idea) I like that you DONT want to change your normal routine!
hey Mike ! i'm please to see you back on range :-) greetings from France :-)
Its your vid, so if you want to shoot 5 that's your call, we should be grateful that you bring this new pistol to your channel an thx for the historical side of it, always interesting.
You do you Mike,hell with RUclips experts.
@@trent7700 I agree 100%
Thank you for making and sharing all these videos you do!
There is a wealth of information for someone like me who wants to learn black powder and it’s interesting history.
Keep up the great work!
"Don't go right I don't know what I can hit at this distance with this cut down thang.."
Rip Torn
Just totally enjoy your approach to fire arms over the years.
Yup, I'm in both those groups you mentioned. Old, stubborn, and have an embarrassing number of guns. And if I see this at the gun show tomorrow, I'll have yet another. Thanks for the great content.
I just wanted to tell you that I truly appreciate your videos. I enjoy guns, but the black powder handuns are the best and most dramatic! Just love em and thanks for your videos!
I love the look of the 1851s. I have 2 5inch 38spl uberti 1851s the 1872 conversions and they are wonderful to shoot.
Beautiful piece. I have many BP revolvers and I can't recall ever shooting one with a two-handed grip. Don't think I ever will either. Great vid Mike! Would like to see an example with a birds head grip just to see how it balances out with the short barrel.
You might not see this reply but I just wanted to thank you for your great videos. It really helps after a bad day to see you review these in a fun way. Watch out for evil Roy.
Pretty little pistol! You shoot it like champ!
It is pretty. I kind of like a full length one done that way.
Unfortunately the most recent rendition of this model, that I received Wednesday suffers some flaws. The grip which a lot of people complain about fully extends past the front of the grip frame by .051", it aligns on the back strap and bottom but not the front. It is like grabbing two knife blades with your fingers. I purchased this through EMF and have an email into them about the best way to reshape the plastic grips. This isn't the first Pietta I have noticed this on, it's just the most expensive Pietta I own and this feature is the most prominent on this gun.
Wedge fitment is sketchy but will improve with use. I couldn't understand why the wedge was installed with a gorilla and a press until I got it out and realized I could not reinstall it all the way without the use of brutal force. It extends just far enough in for the spring clip to click in past the side but there is no extra protrusion of the wedge itself.
Obviously with such a short lever the ramming effort is increased and unfortunately as well, either Pietta or SliXshot changed the dimensions of the SliXhand. It requires major modifications to make it apply pressure to the correct area of the loading lever. Right off, the loose rocking fit allowed for excessive pressure to be applied to the delicate locking latch, which is not designed for ramming pressures and ever so slightly bent. With much filing, grinding cutting and several re-fit tries I was able to modify it such that it activates the lever without putting pressure on the latch. I am currently working on my own version of a tool because I believe there is a better solution.
I do agree it is a pretty gun and a fun gun to shoot and the gun arrived with enough protective machine oil in the plastic bag to almost create a small hazmat spill into the paper shipping materials. Going out to the woods shooting it again today.
Thanks for doing that review. That was a great video, quality wise. The lighting, self filming, photography of the cap sucking etc. You are seriously good. Yeah you are a good shot too. Have a great day.
I like 6 myself, My deal is do what ever YOUR comfortable with, It does confuse me as to why, But hey when all said done, 1) I am not shooting it 2) I am not carrying it. And I still watch and support
Beautiful single action. Nice review.
They finally came and for mine with your load and the tip of the front "sight" right in the bottom of the rear sight seems to hit very close to point of aim. They are super fun to shoot, and good looking too..
Swingin' Sam and the Circle Gang! Awesome.
Just now getting to the video mike. I totally get the hammer down on empty chamber I take my .44 remington out while hunting and find comfort in knowing I have less of a chance of bumping a live chamber. Keep up the good work.
Anxiously awaiting my pair (because I have two hands) for five months. Entirely worth waiting for. Snubbies are FUN to shoot.
Great Video for a Monday! Thanks Mike as always for an honest guy's take on black powder revolvers. Very nice one there! I have something similar in .44 by Pietta, the 'Marshall'
captain Schaeffer must have been very strong to crank down the almost non existent loading lever and push a
round ball, or whatever, into the chamber, very strong
What a beauty I will have one in time. Excellent video thanks
you are absolutely right to only charge 5
we are not at war
hickok45 does the same he only charges 5, the barrel always pointed towards the targets
While cleaning my 1851 without any ammo in it, the hammer fell on my thumb and it hurt so since then I only load 5 and rest on the 6th empty,
this is a fundamental rule of professionals (and those who live a long time!)
black powder people are not stressed or stressful
Long life to you ♥
I should get myself an old black powder revolver their just so cool
Mike, I've been shooting since I was 18 and a freshman at Ohio State, shooting Colt Match Target .22''s in the ROTC building... The first thing we were told is, "When you pick up any firearm, always assume it's loaded (even if you've seen someone else clear it) and then clear the piece. The second thing we were told is, "Always point your firearm in a safe direction." In other words, there's a lot to be said for chambering five rounds, resting on an empty changer because, if you do, and follow the rules, you'll never hurt anyone accidentally. I taught my 2 boys and my daughter the same thing. Love your videos, Mike!
One question. Since they didn't have Slix nipples during the Civil War, did they also have a problem with cap jams?
I wanted to point and laugh while you struggled with that stubby loading lever ... BUT ... That SliXhand lever looks well made & really functional - I looked it up & its also good for longer levers, too.
I'm a sucker for engraved revolvers and ivory grips. I would purchase it, but I like the 7.5" barrel on my 1851's.
I also shoot single action revolvers one handed....just feels right. Great video, keep em comming👍🇨🇦
Martin Cyr in all my videos I shoot one handed as well
I remember how a State Police instructor replied when asked why we don't use two hands: he responded that you need that other hand to hold the horse's reins. Simple.
I love the fact that it's a handsome revolver! It would be a great wear piece for a Cowboy Action dinner!
Write a check and buy it. Looks like fun, and who cares how many 1851s you have. 1851s are my favorite
There is no such thing as an embarassing number of 1851 revolvers! I need more.
Nice video Mike! Any chance we can get some more videos on reproduction military flintlocks? I loved the Charleville video you put out a few years back.
Your a hoot Mike. I have alot of s.a.a. haven't met one I didn't want to take home
Thanks Mike, great video and history lesson, interesting.
Good to see ya back
Great looking little cap and ball. Love the 51 myself. Unfortunately the barrel is a quarter inch too short for our draconian firearm laws up here in Canada 😕 or I’d like to own one too.
Our gun laws do suck! Cheers bro🇨🇦
they may now be in stock. Mine are loaded off the gun with a press, but they are great fun to shoot. A little file work and they are adjusted to shoot to point of aim.
When shooting single action I always use two hands, I tried using only one hand once but couldn’t keep both guns in one hand. My finger aren’t long enough
Hahaha....
Good one...
Poor guy.
30 years ago german shooting club’s allowed “2 hand shooting” before that only one hand bulls eye was permitted. First day I show up with 2 sw 686 and shoot 2 handed, the range officer flipped his shit 🤣
sorry for the pun-- glad you are sticking to you guns
18 grains seems like a light load of powder, but four inches seems like a short barrel, and it seems to ring those gongs really well.
Gorgeous revolver!
Great video Mike.
I enjoy watching you shoot one handed.
It just seems more hysterically correct.
Have you ever seen a Pistol Trophy where the little guy on top is using 2 hands?
same revolver you shot on Full30? Seems to work just as well. Really enjoy your videos. Figures a man from CA would like a fancy gun.
Yup.
Jack Weaver developed the two-hand hold which became known as the Weaver Stance. He was very successful with it, prompting Col. Cooper to copy it and become a strong proponent. Give credit where it's due.
mike I can shoot as well double action as single action, with a DA revolver of course. one handed about the same. great videos you make. I am a southern boy in SC 62 years old now. I have been handloading since I was 10 years old in 1967, I have a range at home. back in the 80s I got into BP and I love deer hunting with flintlocks and remington model 8 81 you should come down and go hunting with us someday. we cook up some good southern food to,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Good video, back to your sources, that's the way i like it, pick up a gun tell its history, and a share the fun of shooting it with us also. Jesús. Spain.
Another great video Mike ☺
Great video as always. I say cut the check and add it to your collection.
What an exciting life one must live to feel the need to tell a grown man how he should or shouldn't load HIS OWN pistol.
Naga Tusk. Love it!
I have that exact same tool box for my gun cleaning stuff!
So I had ordered a brass frame kit gun at some point and it was a 51 Navy with a seven and a half inch barrel I got it mainly just a beat on it and fan the hammer but it's now my quick draw gun so I'm going to order a 3-in barrel from vti or some other part site with a thunderer grip to make it my little quickdraw high noon shooter lol
Hey mr. Bellevue, why don't you have any flintlock pistols besides that peddo? When I first wanted to start making muzzleloaders I started making pistols because the barrels are much cheaper and the stock's come from my ex-wife's or eldest sons wood pile. I didn't have anybody around to teach me, so using less expensive parts made sense. Pistols are fun to make and the turn around time is a lot shorter. Thanx for your videos. They've actually taught me quite a bit.
I'll have a couple of flintlock pistol vids by summer
Great!
Just admit that you have saved muko bucks with 5 shot groups! Hoho. I love your video honesty! I will know alot by the time I get one! Why get a ,44 brass frame? Because all the steel .36s are sold out! A sellers market? Dunno.
Fun shot of the gun appearing to point at the camera. Have you ever accidentally shot a camera that way?
Beautiful pistol. Thanks.
Nice gun, thanks for the video.
Oh buy it you can't have too many Colt revolvers you will be glad you did.
Great looking gun Mike, I sure wish the same gun came in a 7.5". Wish you could have dropped some prices on this, thanks Mike for the video.
Wou l d make an excellent belly gun,
Illustrations of the period always show a shooter with the firing arm much more flexed than is the case nowadays, presumably to get a better sight picture. I have to believe a straight arm is more accurate.
I was tough by my dad to shoot one handed. When I went to infantry AIT in 1971 the Army had us shooting one handed. Not until I became a police officer t in 1979 did I start shooting two handed. I like to shoot how the gun would have been used in it's time period. I am with you on that.
That's very nice looking revolver. What kind of synthetic Ivory grips are those? So they are genuine imitation faux synthivory. I used to make carved and checkered genuine Elephant Ivory grips for Colt, Smith and Wesson, DWM Luger pistols, Walther and SIG Model 210. The last time I made Ivory grips was in 1984, a set for a .30 Luger, 20 lines per inch at a 60° pointup with four Ivory magazine bases carefully fitted.
I always shot one handed for speed as I had another magazine in the other hand for a speedy reload.
One last thing I don't approve of the killing of the elephants people have basically ruined most everything on this planet but I do think that the DNA from the elephants could be used to produce artificially grown tusks in the lab; out of a petri dish.
So, have at it Mike; I love your channel and have been recommending it to all my friends and people that I meet with regards to cap and ball and 1800s pistols.
Would make a great little backpacking gun. It looks like that one does not have that Pietta flare on the grip. Thanks again. You should really make them mad and load one at a time. Lol
One hand, Two hands... depends on the person. What ever does best. In the West maybe the other hand had a bowie or another pistol. I prefer a 4 to 5 inch barrel for carry but that is definitely the bridge between the Pepper Box Cylinder Shooter and the the One with the Separate Ram Rod not attached.
Navy revolvers are fun, indeed.
I'd love to see a comparison of all of your different 1851 Navies. It would be handy to know what the differences are. I didn't even know about the London.
Damn Naga stole my bicycle!
ROFL
Your gun your rules load what you want some people complain about everything
Shooting one handed , turned to the side, presented less of a target with your upper arm providing some protection to the upper torso especially with the lower velocity of black powder and could make a difference especially if your opponent was the better shot. As I understand it, this was the common practice at the time developed over time on the dueling fields of the 18 and 19 century.
Oh and the whole 5 or 6 cartridges thing -I think that a lot of people riding around on horseback would have kept the hammer down on an empty chamber.
That's an interesting gun :)
Thanks Mike Now I want two of them now lol
That’s nice!
Love emf
I don't understand why people get bet out of shape over how other people do things (talking about loading 5 instead of 6 in your revolvers). I personally load 6 in my cap and ball guns but like you said there's nothing wrong with loading either way. Personally, I don't care if you want to load one shot at a time. Whatever makes your sticker peck out is fine with me.
Good video
2:25 Plastics are derived from petroleum, so you could say the grips were sourced from dinosaurs.
Mike, I have an opinion based on my experience. One handed shooting extends your sights further away from you and refines them, Sight alignment is a skill that you have to get used to, master, and become automatic in shooting a firearm other than shotgun accurately. The more refined the sights, the tighter the group. I'm talking shooting at distances grater than the seven to ten yard norm that everyone does just having fun or practicing personal protection engagement shooting. I also believe that the real drawback to only shooting two handed is you never developed confidence shooting unless it is with two hands. I don't believe that their is a advantage in handicapping yourself, if you find it let me know, I looked. If you have one, Take a .38 caliber pistol in the same size as a Mod-15 with a four inch barrel, with one hand shoot the pistol @50 yards at four inch falling plates. That is an exercise that tunes up getting sloppy with the sight alignment. Have a good one and great video. Dave.
You can tell us how many '51s you have. We won't tell your wife!😀
Seven or eight...I'd have to take inventory to be sure.
@@duelist1954 Was the 1851 more prominent then say the 1860? Seems like it was pretty popular.
@@lilteacupisme The 1851 Navy, and the 1840 Pocket model were Colt's most popular C&B revolvers
@@duelist1954 even I can smell the burned powder in that statement!
Re:number of revolvers above
Great video 👍
Mike Another Great Video! BTW, Those 5 Shots Didn't Look "Low" To Me; They Were Center Mass. Great Shooting!