Graeme Souness is an absolute legend. I take my hat off to him for all that he’s done in the football game and his charity commitments. Once a Ranger always a Ranger - has my total respect 👏 💙
Others might say two legends with massive ego's, who are a bit up themselves but remember, the fact that they are not really close to other people in the game, is part of why their single mindedness made them what they are. One things for sure, they can both talk.
And those people are entitled to their opinion. I made no reference to their closeness to others, or their general appeal, these two personify individuality over meek consensus builders and I love it.@@peteryoungpeteryoung965
@@williamsmith9315 a tendency toward obfuscation and a prosperity to contradict previous statements. Also an unwillingness to defend his views from Jim & Simon's fair criticism which saw him leave talkSPORT for a period. Everyone is flawed though and I like Souness a great deal.
@@williamsmith9315 yeah Jim & Simon have talked about it a lot, that Souness didn't like to be challenged or ganged up on, which is visible from the clips of his first proper run. Respect has grown between the 3 of them now though and they're all more comfortable with the dynamic, so he'll be on most weeks again.
Even as a Rangers fan, GS is bang right about Jock Stein. All the old-school greats acknowledge JS as the British GOAT. True giant of the game and a disgrace how he was treated by society and football.
@@grajammellor660nah you’re thinking of the “we’ve got our game back” “man on man” comment which people decided to take out of context. Pretty sure he was a pundit on the match the week after
Simon and Graeme can have a really good conversation between the two of them, bet Jim was twitching at the doorhandles to get in, in the wide eyed Yorkshire terrier way of his. Seeing these two without White is an eye opener, a really good bit of content
A friend and I had travelled to watch Benfica v Liverpool in a European Cup Quarter Final leg in April 1978. Graeme Souness had signed in January, but was ineligible to play in this game if memory serves me right. The day before the game my friends and I went to Estoril, just outside of Lisbon, where the players hotel was. We met Terry McDermott and Emlyn Hughes, who were looking in the local shops and had a photo taken with them. Then we saw what I reckon was a rather shy looking Souness with Kenny Dalglish, who both kindly posed for a photo with me in the middle of them. One of the best photos I still have. I say a shy looking Souness, because I reckon he was still adjusting to life at Liverpool. He, of course played in the Final that May and his pass to Dalglish to score was the main reason Liverpool won the game.
I remember playing rugby under-18 where I sat in changing rooms with some vile coaches who shouted, bullied, and ridiculed players. Back then there were people who thought they had a free pass to do and say what they want. I know you have to have a thick skin and be able to take harsh words. I got plenty of well deserved stick for some poor tackling in training off a coach who gave up his time just to see me strolling around the pitch. But I also think a lot of coaches back then (early 1990's), especially at lower levels and with young players, were a law onto themselves.
Matt Busby, he got a team just after the war that won a cup and league,finished second multiple times then produced the babes, a squad that you would be hard pressed to be bettered, reserves full of internationals, the devastation of Munich, produced another team in the 60s, to me he was the Godfather amongst them all, even Bob Paisley is on record of saying this..
Excellent, could listen to Souness all day. As for Ferguson id love to hear Souness' view why with the quality of the Scotland team at the time why it didn't work out in the world cup in 86
Great combination of characters. I hugely admire Graeme Souness for what he achieved in football. I also like Simon Jordan and his direct views. I'd watch this pair talking for hours
When John McKenna launched Liverpool FC he signed a whole raft of Scottish players as they were considered the real exponents of the beautiful game because of their technical ability and understanding of the game! That team were called the team of MAC's!
The best double act on the internet.Two genuine gents, and intellectuals, who call a spade a spade! Very refreshing in this day and age. Look forward to hearing and watching this series go from strength to strength.
Could listen to these 2 all day. To Graeme's point about Scottish footballers in history, Celtic were the first ever British team to win the European Cup (Champions League now) in '67. And Liverpool's first ever starting 11, in 1892, were all 'Macs' as they became known.
great show - and as someone who worked in football in media and as CEO of league one club - and walked away in disgust after a few years - yes it was a madhouse full of corruption and backstabbers. look forward to more episodes
I can't forget, GS giving new player, Saunders more money than what Ian Rush was being paid, I was astonished by that, and felt he, (Graham) was soulless, just my impression, he will always be an Anfield Great! As a player, but I didn't like him as manager, only won one FA cup. But how he treated Rushie, left me thinking there was a missing dimension..
Souness is such a great voice in the game, and has been inexplicably moved on for younger, less knowledgable and interesting pundits who just laugh for no apparent reason. But Sky’s loss is Talksports gain by the looks of things
Only a certain number of clubs can win the big trophies and in this day and age is equates mostly to who’s financing you. So Mr Souness, it’s not always about winning football, it’s about being entertained, too. That’s the West Ham way. Great show by the way.
Good chat, lads. Although, Simon has fallen into the same over simplification comments regarding Postecoglou as many other Brits. Ange didn't get the gig because he was the antithesis of Conte. It had a little more to do with his record and how managers, like Pep rate him. Ange's tactical acumen is underrated, as is his recruitment skills and ability to improve individuals. Basically Wenger 2.0
I understand Grahame Souness' point that the game is still the same as it was since its conception, however......would it be fair to say that playing surfaces being so, so much better than they were in his day, have allowed a style of play that would not be possible in his day. And as a result have changed tactics and how players are coached? Is it in fact a much different game as a result?
When they came along . Souness ,Dalglish later hansen we in scotland thought that a successful Scotish team could be built around these 3 and we would be a great team throughout the 80s. But all of them put club before country.
I love listening to you two guys and the way you interact with each other. I know where Graeme is coming from as regards Scotches players and managers been the best as I watched a program on the history of football and that was how it seemed.
Since his return, Graeme seems to be more comfortable. I wonder if the powers to be instructed him to smile more? Which also makes me wonder if they are trying to recreate the Michah and Roy bromance. In fairness they do seem to have a chemistry. He handles Simon much better than Danny Murphy or Keown. The two of them struggle to hide their dislike for Simon and can't articulate their points of view, which in a lot of cases are correct. I think Martin O'Neill was brought in because of his past reputation as a Uni goer and the thinking mans footballer. The Frank Lampard of his era. O'Neill measures his words too much and unfortunately is a bit of a bore. Yesterdays man. Simon is a bit of a 'gottcha' merchant who if he thinks something isn't what he believes heads straight to google. You can see the smugness rise if he finds what he was looking for. They might have something here, but eventually, after the early "who was your favourite manager, toughest player etc" questions, they will get hit with the more hard hitting, more personal questions. This will be what makes it a top podcast or just another one where two egos massage one another.
I don’t really agree with this. Danny gets along with jim and Simon but he rotates between the shows so he isn’t particularly close to either. He does think Simon is kind of pretentious but I think he knows it’s a bit and thinks it’s kind of funny. And I don’t think Martin likes jim but honestly Simon is way too familiar and aggressive with Martin for he and Martin to not have some kind of relationship outside of work. But of course that’s just from observing them on the show. Agree with the stuff about O’Neil he gets too into the weeds on topics and isn’t grandfatherly looking enough to get away with it being as boring as he is like Ian darke is.
Souey gets a lot of flak but hand on heart if I was ever in a war I'd want him in the trench next to me ! As for Simon ? If I wanted to open a chain of launderettes I'd seek his advice
As a life long Liverpool fan, as somebody who was close to a family who lost loved ones at Hillsborough, as somebody who attended many Hillsborough services the day Souness did that Interview with Sun I hated him... As the years have past and I've grown older I have heard Souness apologies many times about his time at Liverpool and that Interview and I do honestly believe he is genuine. I no longer hate him and can say that I have now respect him. I might not agree with what he says, but I still respect him
if looking for further topics for conversation, how about - should women's football have the same status with Men's football as Women's Tennis does with the male version - especially money?
Great show. Souness on top form and that’s from a Celtic fan. Be interesting to know what he thought of playing with the Lisbon Lion at Middlesbrough - the midfield genius Bobby Murdoch!
Love it gents, simon always love watching you on talk sport and my recnt vid of you watched was a piss take out of you 🤣🤣 cant wait to see where this show goes, knowingwhat i have seen of you simon it's gonna be a no bullshit show 🤣🤣
Hi, Simon. I had a dream about Harry Maguire, him the GOAT, lest we forget, scoring with a bicycle kick from the halfway line set up by Obama. I've got a quick question, if I may? Can you see it happening in an actual game? Thanks.
Jeez whats wrong with me? Watched Talksport on Monday and now this and I'm enjoying Simon and Sourness together and I'm born and bred man u for 60 years, and they both diss Man U all the time!. Well done lads..........
Graeme Souness is an absolute legend. I take my hat off to him for all that he’s done in the football game and his charity commitments. Once a Ranger always a Ranger - has my total respect 👏 💙
Thats the thing with Souness and even Simon to a lesser extent. I dont always agree with them but they are always worth a listen.
I want to like this but it’s at ‘ 55 ‘ 😂
Two real old school, strong willed men talking as mates do, damn, society needs more of this, I need more of this.
Others might say two legends with massive ego's, who are a bit up themselves but remember, the fact that they are not really close to other people in the game, is part of why their single mindedness made them what they are. One things for sure, they can both talk.
And those people are entitled to their opinion. I made no reference to their closeness to others, or their general appeal, these two personify individuality over meek consensus builders and I love it.@@peteryoungpeteryoung965
Souness said he has too many close friends in the game to name... maybe less opinion stating for you and more listening.@@peteryoungpeteryoung965
Glad to see Souness back. Don’t always agree with him, but I do enjoy listening to him and I’m glad he’s back on talkSPORT.
Only because gutter sport is losing comments 👍🏻
Why did he stop for a few months?
@@jamesheseltine8283I imagine he might have been ill
Do you always need to agree with people? Kind of a weird comment
He's a very very hard person to listen to and talks alot of nonsense
Make the episodes way longer! Despite his flaws Souness is a class act and Simon brings the best out of him.
What are his flaws?
What floors? To point out a floors is merely your opinion not fact. To some people a negative can be seen as a positive to others
@@williamsmith9315 a tendency toward obfuscation and a prosperity to contradict previous statements. Also an unwillingness to defend his views from Jim & Simon's fair criticism which saw him leave talkSPORT for a period. Everyone is flawed though and I like Souness a great deal.
@@Gazs93 I seeee, and that's why he left TS? What's your source? I never read anything about why he left.
@@williamsmith9315 yeah Jim & Simon have talked about it a lot, that Souness didn't like to be challenged or ganged up on, which is visible from the clips of his first proper run. Respect has grown between the 3 of them now though and they're all more comfortable with the dynamic, so he'll be on most weeks again.
Even as a Rangers fan, GS is bang right about Jock Stein. All the old-school greats acknowledge JS as the British GOAT. True giant of the game and a disgrace how he was treated by society and football.
Glad to see Souness back in Talksport. Sky missed a trick letting him go
They didn't let him go, he wanted to take care with his wife who was very unwell so needed time away from the spotlight
@@peacelove8395didn't he make a comment and get sacked
@@grajammellor660nah you’re thinking of the “we’ve got our game back” “man on man” comment which people decided to take out of context. Pretty sure he was a pundit on the match the week after
When these two get together it’s a brilliant watch
Sports quote of the year: the Scottish came down to teach the english how to play football. 😂😂😂
Fantastic to see you both still together debating all things football. All the best with the new show ❤
Simon and Graeme can have a really good conversation between the two of them, bet Jim was twitching at the doorhandles to get in, in the wide eyed Yorkshire terrier way of his. Seeing these two without White is an eye opener, a really good bit of content
Really enjoying this series. Two great voices with
such stories and angles to tell.
A friend and I had travelled to watch Benfica v Liverpool in a European Cup Quarter Final leg in April 1978. Graeme Souness had signed in January, but was ineligible to play in this game if memory serves me right. The day before the game my friends and I went to Estoril, just outside of Lisbon, where the players hotel was. We met Terry McDermott and Emlyn Hughes, who were looking in the local shops and had a photo taken with them. Then we saw what I reckon was a rather shy looking Souness with Kenny Dalglish, who both kindly posed for a photo with me in the middle of them. One of the best photos I still have. I say a shy looking Souness, because I reckon he was still adjusting to life at Liverpool. He, of course played in the Final that May and his pass to Dalglish to score was the main reason Liverpool won the game.
Souness is correct on the Scottish players look up the book inverting the pyramid
Basically introduced passing to England seemingly
Love this...this is gold, Graeme Souness is top class all round
I remember playing rugby under-18 where I sat in changing rooms with some vile coaches who shouted, bullied, and ridiculed players. Back then there were people who thought they had a free pass to do and say what they want. I know you have to have a thick skin and be able to take harsh words. I got plenty of well deserved stick for some poor tackling in training off a coach who gave up his time just to see me strolling around the pitch. But I also think a lot of coaches back then (early 1990's), especially at lower levels and with young players, were a law onto themselves.
The Simon & Graeme self praising show😂
These 2 are great
Real people with real opinions and not worried about what everyone thinks
Great show
You're easily taken in aren't you! REAL people don't need bloody podcasts, money and status to flex an opinion, calm down son
@@pigchamp3627 calm down mate haha
@@jamiemayzes1969Hmm I think he's got a point there James.
Matt Busby, he got a team just after the war that won a cup and league,finished second multiple times then produced the babes, a squad that you would be hard pressed to be bettered, reserves full of internationals, the devastation of Munich, produced another team in the 60s, to me he was the Godfather amongst them all, even Bob Paisley is on record of saying this..
These 2 together great watch . Love em
Great episode and awsome for fotboll fans!!!
Excellent, could listen to Souness all day. As for Ferguson id love to hear Souness' view why with the quality of the Scotland team at the time why it didn't work out in the world cup in 86
yes i remember he was really pissed off with Ferguson and the scottish FA at the time.
@mervyncharter yep. Scotland really had a great team that time, least on paper
Oh brilliant. Can’t wait for more of this
Superb start gentlemen, thank you.
Simon can only talk about that one year in his life - Graeme has got a whole life of experience
Great show guys.
Great combination of characters. I hugely admire Graeme Souness for what he achieved in football. I also like Simon Jordan and his direct views. I'd watch this pair talking for hours
When John McKenna launched Liverpool FC he signed a whole raft of Scottish players as they were considered the real exponents of the beautiful game because of their technical ability and understanding of the game! That team were called the team of MAC's!
Two legends Jordan & Souness ! Much better than the chuckle brothers on SkySports
Brilliant. Loved this show.
Great stuff guys keep it up…
The best double act on the internet.Two genuine gents, and intellectuals, who call a spade a spade! Very refreshing in this day and age. Look forward to hearing and watching this series go from strength to strength.
Souness is a top bloke. Great that he’s back on the station.
Mr Souness explain why peter Beardsley left and whihc player do you regret not signing for any club, who could have happened. Thanks Mark
I haven't really seen this side of Simon before - nice to see
Souness is a relic.
Great guys and good men, both.
Could listen to these 2 all day. To Graeme's point about Scottish footballers in history, Celtic were the first ever British team to win the European Cup (Champions League now) in '67. And Liverpool's first ever starting 11, in 1892, were all 'Macs' as they became known.
great show - and as someone who worked in football in media and as CEO of league one club - and walked away in disgust after a few years - yes it was a madhouse full of corruption and backstabbers. look forward to more episodes
I can't forget, GS giving new player, Saunders more money than what Ian Rush was being paid, I was astonished by that, and felt he, (Graham) was soulless, just my impression, he will always be an Anfield Great! As a player, but I didn't like him as manager, only won one FA cup. But how he treated Rushie, left me thinking there was a missing dimension..
My two favorite crackheads in the same space lmao i love these guys. This was an awesome show. Hope we have many more episodes like this
Souness is such a great voice in the game, and has been inexplicably moved on for younger, less knowledgable and interesting pundits who just laugh for no apparent reason. But Sky’s loss is Talksports gain by the looks of things
Please can you tell us why Graeme left the Monday morning White & Jordan show for so long please,?
Only a certain number of clubs can win the big trophies and in this day and age is equates mostly to who’s financing you. So Mr Souness, it’s not always about winning football, it’s about being entertained, too. That’s the West Ham way.
Great show by the way.
Cantonese and Urdu....is that necessary? Love Jordan's response...about Souness speaking English! 🤣
Good chat, lads. Although, Simon has fallen into the same over simplification comments regarding Postecoglou as many other Brits. Ange didn't get the gig because he was the antithesis of Conte. It had a little more to do with his record and how managers, like Pep rate him. Ange's tactical acumen is underrated, as is his recruitment skills and ability to improve individuals. Basically Wenger 2.0
I understand Grahame Souness' point that the game is still the same as it was since its conception, however......would it be fair to say that playing surfaces being so, so much better than they were in his day, have allowed a style of play that would not be possible in his day. And as a result have changed tactics and how players are coached? Is it in fact a much different game as a result?
these guys say it how it is, you dont get much these days!
When they came along . Souness ,Dalglish later hansen we in scotland thought that a successful Scotish team could be built around these 3 and we would be a great team throughout the 80s. But all of them put club before country.
all the ego aside, two of the most brilliant football minds in the world today🙌
I love listening to you two guys and the way you interact with each other. I know where Graeme is coming from as regards Scotches players and managers been the best as I watched a program on the history of football and that was how it seemed.
i love this show so interesting
Since his return, Graeme seems to be more comfortable. I wonder if the powers to be instructed him to smile more? Which also makes me wonder if they are trying to recreate the Michah and Roy bromance.
In fairness they do seem to have a chemistry. He handles Simon much better than Danny Murphy or Keown. The two of them struggle to hide their dislike for Simon and can't articulate their points of view, which in a lot of cases are correct. I think Martin O'Neill was brought in because of his past reputation as a Uni goer and the thinking mans footballer. The Frank Lampard of his era. O'Neill measures his words too much and unfortunately is a bit of a bore. Yesterdays man. Simon is a bit of a 'gottcha' merchant who if he thinks something isn't what he believes heads straight to google. You can see the smugness rise if he finds what he was looking for. They might have something here, but eventually, after the early "who was your favourite manager, toughest player etc" questions, they will get hit with the more hard hitting, more personal questions. This will be what makes it a top podcast or just another one where two egos massage one another.
I don’t really agree with this. Danny gets along with jim and Simon but he rotates between the shows so he isn’t particularly close to either. He does think Simon is kind of pretentious but I think he knows it’s a bit and thinks it’s kind of funny. And I don’t think Martin likes jim but honestly Simon is way too familiar and aggressive with Martin for he and Martin to not have some kind of relationship outside of work. But of course that’s just from observing them on the show.
Agree with the stuff about O’Neil he gets too into the weeds on topics and isn’t grandfatherly looking enough to get away with it being as boring as he is like Ian darke is.
10:26 David Brent
Brilliant
Could listen to these 2 all day
Graeme who would you rather have beside you in midfield
Gerrard zidane or keane
Q: Are you going for the Joe 90 look, Simon?
Sorness is the only guy Roy Keane is afraid of
Souey gets a lot of flak but hand on heart if I was ever in a war I'd want him in the trench next to me ! As for Simon ? If I wanted to open a chain of launderettes I'd seek his advice
As a life long Liverpool fan, as somebody who was close to a family who lost loved ones at Hillsborough, as somebody who attended many Hillsborough services the day Souness did that Interview with Sun I hated him...
As the years have past and I've grown older I have heard Souness apologies many times about his time at Liverpool and that Interview and I do honestly believe he is genuine.
I no longer hate him and can say that I have now respect him.
I might not agree with what he says, but I still respect him
First 10 minutes should of got a room lads 😂
if looking for further topics for conversation, how about - should women's football have the same status with Men's football as Women's Tennis does with the male version - especially money?
Looking forward to hearing more....thank you lad's...
Great show. Souness on top form and that’s from a Celtic fan. Be interesting to know what he thought of playing with the Lisbon Lion at Middlesbrough - the midfield genius Bobby Murdoch!
Love it gents, simon always love watching you on talk sport and my recnt vid of you watched was a piss take out of you 🤣🤣 cant wait to see where this show goes, knowingwhat i have seen of you simon it's gonna be a no bullshit show 🤣🤣
Great show, look forward to a lot more episodes dropping
Really enjoyed that but far too short!
What a fantastic player Souness was..Filthy at times but definitely a man that you want in the trenches with you 👍🏻
Graeme Souness is an absolute legend
Great pairing! Looking forward to see how these pan out
Very enjoyable this
Much better without Jim White in the middle...
I don't mind Jim, but he's always deliberately antagonising Souness ans other guests to get a reaction... not that it works 90% of the time 😂
Fascinating.❤
Fantastic . No BS. Keep it coming
Hi, Simon. I had a dream about Harry Maguire, him the GOAT, lest we forget, scoring with a bicycle kick from the halfway line set up by Obama. I've got a quick question, if I may? Can you see it happening in an actual game? Thanks.
Graeme Souness - you have class and taste. Breguet Heritage Chrono. An incredible jewel of a timepiece. I have the same, but in Platinum.
Another cracking product
Both tell stories of purchasing players and dealing with troublesome ones
Simon Jordan. Who was the biggest pain in the ass manager you worked with and which current Manager would you most like to work with?
For a moment i thought they are best of mates lol
Throughly enjoyed that
Great show looking forward to more. Graeme do you regret not working with Lord Jordan in the past ??
Why did Graeme leave talksport for a period of time?
Loving this…
Question for Graeme: who was the hardest player he played against whether that be domestic, European or International football?
Thanks!
Excellent!
these two are great, bullshit factor of zero, so refreshing
How do you balance being outspoken and family in public
This is Brilliant. More please.
What is the watch that Graham is wearing its beautiful
Two great individuals 🇬🇧
Class
Terry mcdermett was a cracking striker.
What a bromance, Keano really respects Souness too.
Loved this. Its everything you need without jim gobbing off in-between playing the dumb version of a devils advocate
Jeez whats wrong with me? Watched Talksport on Monday and now this and I'm enjoying Simon and Sourness together and I'm born and bred man u for 60 years, and they both diss Man U all the time!. Well done lads..........
Well done, Gent's
Simon Jordan working overtime for talksport
Absolute quality ❤
Respect!!
Shankly,Stein,Busby - miners. Ferguson - shipyards.